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Hello loves.


I wrapped tonight’s webcast with a promise that I would put my phone away. I lied.

So, tonight, Ash’s art teacher texted me and said that Ash (who just turned eight) could call her if he wanted to understand why Ashlie - one of the moms at pick-up - was crying. The teacher was worried. He didn’t understand.

I knew why Ashlie was probably crying. She has family in Israel.

So tonight over dinner, we had a twenty minute lesson in war. We explained World War 2 (which he knows about) and we explained Israel, and Palestine, and fighting, and feelings. And anger. And conflict.

When we got to the end, we asked him: if you were standing in a field with all these people fighting each other and you could tell them one thing, what would you tell them?

Ash thought about this.

“I would tell them to talk it out.”

Oh, my child.

We ended the exercise with a resolution to send our bedtime good wishes to everyone in pain tonight. Good wishes to everyone who is suffering. Good wishes to everyone who has family/whānau who may be in danger.

When you are a parent living in the goddamn woods with an eight year old and you see the footage of the missiles flying and then you are just standing there, doing the dinner dishes, this is all you can goddamn do.

Send the good wishes.

Send the prayers.

And be grateful that the sky above our house tonight is full of shining stars that do not move.


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Laura Payne

You are loved, Amanda. Holding you and Ash in my heart. ❤️❤️❤️❤️

Suzanne

That child is wise beyond his years. You're raising a good human, mamma.

David Smart

Amanda, I cannot believe your post, the comments you liked and responded to. Obviously you are coming from a place where you simply want the violence to stop. At the same time, you are so wildly ill-educated, you do not realise how harmful you are being. You need to take time out, to be introspective, to understand your racism. I believe in your heart. That is why it is so hard to see you cause so much pain so carelessly, so arrogantly.

Kelly Shea

Thank you, Ash. I wish that everyone would take your advice. (Yes. It IS that simple.) We are all human, more alike than different. ♥️ Love to all

Steven Panzek

Oh if only that easy dear boy. “Out of the mouth of babes comes wisdom that the aged have long forgotten”

Anna McCotter

I love you. as far as the larger picture goes; war & wisdom falls under urgent worth while promise bending priorities. :)

Fleassy Malay

I'd love to know how you are feeling about the imbalance of media attention between attacks on Israel vs attacks on Palestine...and how to broach that in a way that honours that all of it is fucked on so many levels. I have a lot of my Jewish friends sharing pain right now... and at the same time I can not help to wonder where the pain has been for the past 30 years (or how ever long its been now). It's like people are only willing to feel the pain when it lands close to home. I see this as a queer person a lot. And as a woman. As someone who isn't Jewish or Palistinian or Muslim I am staying very quiet on the whole thing but my bones ache for the families of those who have been oppressed and killed to media silence for so long...only to see the coverage happening now.

Jen

If only they would talk it out ❤️❤️❤️❤️

Félix Marqués

It's been the past 75 years, unfortunately. I really recommend reading about the entire timeline. A lot of things become very clear when you take the long view. 🙃

amandapalmer

This is an excellent point. I traveled over there about ten years ago. I spent time in Israel, and I traveled to Palestine, and my head was filled with pain and I left with more questions than answers. I think the easiest thing to say is that when violence of this scale happens, to anybody, it draws attention. A school shooting, a mass bombing. It’s always happening at a smaller scale. Every day. And then when the towers come down or the school comes down or the mosque is attacked, the ripple. The larger discussion. That’s mostly it. I don’t have a side here; only a horror.

Dantipova

It's been four nights already, that I go to bed wishing that I won't wake up in the middle of the night because of the alarm. It's the fifth morning that I wake up at 05:30 and thank whoever that I survived another somewhat quiet night. You can't talk things out with people that are not willing to listen. You can just talk at them, and hope that they are listening.

Fleassy Malay

It really hit home for me when I met an Iraeli friend travelling about 15 years ago who had fled Israel after being forced into the army where he was made to do "practice raids" on actual towns with actual Palestinian families in them. As if it didn't count as war... as if it didn't count as an act of terrorism. He was sick to the stomach from the actions of his own country, and full of shame.

Laura Morland

Bravo, dear Fleassy, to that young Israeli man. Are you still in touch with him, by any chance?

Fleassy Malay

I am not, no. It was one of those passing friendships. We met on a train or the back of a truck somewhere in south east Asia and crossed a country together (possibly Cambodia) i think. Then went our seperate ways and never saw each other again.

Orly Kessem

Singing Everybody Knows Somebody to myself at least once a day. It helps.

Christina C.

I am not a journalist but I have a media background and while there is always going to be general bias, government PR and propaganda spins, and corporations pandering to target audiences... there are many amazing journalists out there. And the plight of the Palestinians is not actually as ignored by global news outlet at it would seem. There is some great stuff out there. The problem of media spin however is a general issue and it's geared toward entertainment and click bait more than anything. That's is a genuine and real media "conspiracy." Greed is tops. It's not about politics. I personally don't watch news much but when I do I tend to favor outlets outside of the US. To add an interesting twist I am including a link to an interview I happened to catch live on You Tube on Sky News where Mark Austen interviews the Hamas head of Politcal amd International Relations. To be very clear this is not me taking any side on thus issue but the way the officia spins the story clearly shows why it is difficult to get the true story of what is really going on in Gaza at any given time. Journalist to often times what to tell the truth as it is and often times have a tough time doing so. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Egipqa0ZhUk

David Smart

"I don’t have a side here" - then by default you are supporting the cause of the horror. Not withstanding I have never seen you express any concern for the exponential deaths and designed suffering of Palestinians, and seem to be much more impacted the one day this reality blew back on Israel, your failure to recognise the plainly understandable reality of settler-colonialism and would perfectly happily see it continue as long as you didn't have to hear about any violence, shows that you are willing for it to go on and on.

Christina C.

No actually she isn't. I don't think anyone in this community is interested in tolerating the tone of agression and accusation you're taking. Let's have a mature adult conversation without name calling instead.

Fleassy Malay

I actually feel it's a perfect example of media influence. When Russia invaded Ukraine I made a post acknowledging how wrong it was. A dear Muslim friend of mine contacted me to point out they had never seen a main post of mine about any of the continuing wars in Muslim countries. I realised how swayed I was by the media in what gave me big feelings, in what I commented on publicly. So yes, I do think it's odd to see posts from people about what is happening in Israel when they have never commented on Palestine publicly. I also know that the media can spin things, that funding goes where power goes and that we are all influenced by this. So yes, let's call it out in ourselves, discuss with each other, learn to show up better. Name calling doesn't help.

Christina C.

Foe sure. Media bias is actually only truly successful when we choose not to do the wor of seeking deeper truths. I'm a firm believer in spurring each other on and inspiring ourselves to keep seeking keep asking questions instead of taking stances based on information hand fed to you by those who stand to gain from it. Its a very sticky and nasty web.

David Smart

If you don't understand that you have underlying racial prejudice, you will carry on acting with racial prejudice. I don't know how further to explain this to you. You are not immune to it because you are well-intentioned.

David Smart

Take the imperfect analogy of a victim of sexual assault. You know, of course, all the misogynist impulses that create victim blaming. If that victim had fought back and you rushed to condemn them, as many might do, is that healthy? Is it responsible to come from a place of pure empathy and talk of your sympathy for the abuser? How would the victim feel hearing that? An imperfect analogy because Israel is the abuser, and the murdered Israelis are victims too. But when you talk about Israeli victims in this way you are lending your sympathy and support to Israel. So back to the analogy - if you express your deep sorrow for the violence suffered by the rapist and not of the abused, if your sympathies lie predominantly with the man in this situation, you could see how this would clearly be rooted in misogyny. But further, if you flatten the concept of "violence" you lose sight of who is the abuser and who is the abused. Is the victim fighting back the cause of the problem? No. The problem is the rape. But as a result of your sympathies - which ARE biased - is you are directing all your thoughts to the effect and not the cause.

Len Tower Jr.

Bravo to Ash, you, & all Ash's elders. Love, Len

Dahlia

The Palestinian plight is no justification for the terrorist barbaric massacre of innocent people including babies carried out by Hamas. I am distraught for those living under Hamas and I don’t believe in every extreme government policy, but I stand firmly with Israel against this terror. Babies were beheaded. There is no justification for that.

Scott Meekins

Amanda, you're developing Ash to be an incredibly considerate human being. Explaining the effects of war and conflict to children is something that all parents should do.

Najia

There is absolutely no evidence that any such thing occured.

Fleassy Malay

No justification...and upon the same logic the attacks on Israel do not justify a counter attack on innocent people in Gaza...but its happening. It's happening because people are just numbers and inconvenience in war. It is hypocritical to side with Israel without acknowledging the horror, war crimes and inhumaising their armies have been inflicting for so long including recently in the lead up to this. If people need more of an understanding here is an article by Amnesty International https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/report-israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/#:~:text=Unlawful%20attacks%20and%20killings&text=On%205%20August%2C%20Israel%20launched,and%20displacing%20hundreds%20of%20civilians. We can't mourn deaths and acknowledge horror without acknowledging the full picture...otherwise we are saying "only the people who look/think/speak/love/act like me are worthy of my pain and grief"

Najia

Of course we would all like to see conflict cease, no one more so than those on the ground. Sadly there is only one party in this ongoing genocide who can end the conlifct and violence, and that is Israel. If Israel ceased the besieging, bombing, and torture they have been subjecting Palestinians to for the last 75 years at least in an effort at genocide, ethnic cleansing, and settler colonialism, the "conflict" would end tomorrow. There is nothing, however, that Palestine or Palestinians can do to end this conflict. Every attempt at drawing the world's attention, marching, protesting, carrying out hunger strikes in Israeli prisons, every effort at peaceful protest, has resulted in open fire at protesters and the escalation of murders, the use of chemical weapons against, the purposeful disablement of (even as Irael bombs or bars access to hospitals), and the forced exile of Palestinian people. These are millions of people who are trapped in an open-air prison, in the second most densely populated area in the world, who are constantly (men, women, and children) killed, bombed, shot at, dismembered, sexually assaulted, forcibly removed from their homes, homes demolished, since the Nakba of 1948 and even before. If they protest peacefully to try to end the ethnic cleansing and wholesale genocide of their people, they are violent. If they use small-scale violence to defend themselves (throwing *small rocks* at **tanks**!) they are violent. If they use coordinated violence, they are barbaric, terrorists (take note of the racism in this language). What else is a people, worn-down, exhausted, constantly fearing for their lives, watching their friends, family, and small children being murdered left and right, supposed to do? The United States throws all of its considerable power on the side of the oppressor and the settler-colonialist. The status quo of constant wholesale displacement, being driven from their homes, removed to a small area which they are physically barred from leaving, the murders of thousands of Palestinian civilians per year, are background noise. Only now that a fraction of a percent of this violence is visited on the oppressor (a far smaller death toll, against people who have the power to leave, who have the power to cut off the West Bank from power, food, and water, even as by all accounts Palestinian coalition fighters do not use the war-crime tactics of the IDF and provide hospital care for those injured) are many people speaking out. Why is violence aimed at liberation more noteworthy, more condemnable, than violence aimed at the wholesale extermination of a people so that their land may be settled? You (general 'you') might mention that these Israelis are civilians. I might mention that the hundreds of times more Palestinians who have been murdered in the past several decades (and in aggressive, rather than defensive, acts of violence) were civilians as well--but let's set that aside. I might mention that these are people who are knowingly settling a land from which they have displaced the indigenous population (which indigenous population includes Arabs, Jews, & others), but let's set that aside as well. I might also mention that the majority of the prisoners that Hamas has taken (and note that Hamas is not the only member of the coalition of Palestinian forces currently coordinating attacks) are military personnel--but let's set that aside as well. The placement of civilians at the front lines, the settling of border areas with civilians, is a tactic that Israel uses on purpose, sacrificing their own people so that any resistance undertaken by the Palestinian people may be cast as barbaric and indiscriminate. Who gets to be a "civilian" here? Who gets to be thought of as "civilized"? Whom does the civilizing mission of the settler-colonialist genocide and replacement of an indigenous population allow to be considered "civil"--that is, to be considered human? Which ideas are behind who is thought of as an acceptable target for violence, and whose deaths are perceived as tragedy?

David Smart

This is beautifully put, a concise and irrefutable (if one were to bother to look at the situation) analysis, and I am so sad that Amanda has now and will not engage with it. She is open-minded on many things, but I suspect she is unwilling to experience the cognitive dissonance due to what I imagine is a baked-in sense that she is supposed to love Israel. I'm sorry that she only cares for yes-people and those who think Israeli suffering is the only thing that matters. I acknowledge and appreciate you.

Dahlia

My pain extends to the people living in Gaza, but I still support Israel’s right to exist and think after such a massacre it’s important to show support for the innocent people were murdered without justification. The actions of the Israeli government do not warrant the violent attacks that took place on Saturday. Hamas states its purpose is to eliminate Jews from the earth. Israel’s response is extreme. Hamas operates out of all types of buildings often using women and children as human shields. The Palestinian civilians need to be freed from Hamas. I care about their lives too, but I have to speak up for Israel in the wake of such horrific antisemitism and indiscriminate killing.

Christina C.

I believe it because I’ve seen it work in the most unlikely brutal situations. Children are core humanity and they should be listened to.

Rhianna Croucher

50% of Gaza is children and they're going through a genocide. Ash is old enough to learn about why talking won't work. Don't be on the wrong side of history.

Rhianna Croucher

50% of the people trapped in Gaza are children. Israel kidnaps them and keeps them in cages. Today they slaughtered several palestinian paramedics after promising to let them enter and attend dying children. The only thing Israel wants to hear from children is agonised cries. From Israeli children too, because it radicalises them.

Rhianna Croucher

Israel is committing a genocide, a literal ethnic cleansing. You're centring Israeli peoples feelings over Palestinians.

Christina C.

The assault even had a name. Al Aqsa Flood. This terrorist attack was actually ordered and planned by the leader Hamas due to the long standing dispute over the Al Aqsa Mosque and had absolutely nothing to do with defending the people in Gaza. This is evident further in the fact that they knew IDF would retaliate with total destruction using what is known as Dahiya, at a level beyond reproach, possibly drawing the whole region into conflict. The purpose of this mission was to start a Holy War. It was never to defend or avenge Palestians. I have Palestian friends. My heart is is with all innocents in this but there is definite a bizarre obsession with folks suddenly making this ONLY about the conditions of Palestinians in Gaza. It wasn't ever anout that for the terrorists who committed the act, they said so themselves. At the end of the day it doesn't matter. The peope effected most aee always the innocent on both sides. And damn us all if we can't maintain a basic level of human compassion for the general suffering on both sides, as well pause in shock at the barbarism shown in the videos without justifying it.

Christina C.

Terrorism and Holy Wars. Two things equally as destructive as colonialism. Two things Hamas exists for. It's all wrong. It doesn't take paragraphs and paragraphs of words, or clever takes, or lectures from high horses by people who know very little about the details to acknowledge this very simple yet full truth.

eethi

If you cannot see why people are upset that you have centered the current Israeli victims, then let me try and pose it this way. The Israeli government has manipulated Palestinians and Hamas into this happening. ///The Israeli government has the power to stop this, and because they have the power they also hold the responsibility./// When you center only the Israeli victims without making it clear that you understand that this is the fault of the Israeli government then people will rightfully get upset. You did this by only mentioning the Israeli victims and not acknowledging or talking about the Palestinian ones (even as the Israeli government commits war crimes against the civilians of Gaza by putting another total blockade against them). Especially when it appears in this case that they had warning, and they should have known something was about to happen. To further explain how it is the Israeli's governments fault: You put people in the largest open air prison in the world. for generations. You continually steal more and more land, and kill more and more of their people. You cut them ALL off from supplies and power and water when some of them retaliate. Which is against international law. You fund Hamas back in day to help destabilize the PLO. They gain strength, and are more radical and so it gives you the excuse to now bomb hospitals, schools, and other places with lots of civilians and children. It forces Palestinians who might want another way to work with them at times because it might be the only way you can help your people. You intentionally bomb homes but give them a lovely courtesy call though telling them they have one minute to get out of their home before it is bombed. You jail their children. You have intense surveillance of everything, but don't do anything when there is no way not to know something is being planned, also because another country literally warns you. You know why you ignore it? Because if they kill your citizens, you can use that as an excuse to further your genocidal plans as the rest of the world does fucking nothing and continues to fund you. You and the world blame all Palestinians for voting them in even though nearly half of the Palestinian population in occupied Palestine is under 18 and there hasn't been an election in 15+ years. If you want to show outrage and compassion for the Israeli victims, that makes sense. What is happening to all of the people being killed is despicable and there is nothing wrong with talking about that. But you need to talk about both sides when you have the platform you have. And you need to understand and be clear that the Israeli government is has created this situation and is putting up their own people as collateral so that they can continue their apartheid genocidal plan without anyone else stepping in.

Christina C.

This sounds like a great explanation until one realizes that the modern radicalizing of Jihad offensive warfare exists within factions of Islam outside of any geopolitical context, wherein the killing of innocents is justified to for conversion. While it's true Israel has a responsibility to their own standard of morality, to international law regarding the ruled of engagement and the general standard of not taking innocent human life, maiming bodies, and smothering human rights (all things, much like the US, they routinely fail at often times intentionally) your explanation lacks full context. The name Hama gave this attack is Al Aqsa Flood. The ultimate mission is a broad holy war and has little to do with Gaza at all when you look at all of history. Therefore, it's wise for all of us to stop lecturing each other on a topic majority (if not all) of us know very very very very little about.

Christina C.

Oops looks like you dropped the Ash For President button the welcome committee gives every member of this community. That's okay just ask around about why we wear them and why telling other people especially kids how they should live is really not our thing.

Christina C.

And the rest of us are just sad that you won't move on to engage with a cup of tea or some fresh outside air and spare us the trolly tirades that you clearly understand will never be engaged with or taken serious.

Rhianna Croucher

If you post about your child people can criticise what you choose to teach that child and discuss on a public platform.

Christina C.

Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD. Now there's an adult concept worth a talking it out conversation. I'll start. We don't come here to see troll behavior. You'll notice only exactly two people in this conversation thread are acting that way. This is a group of lovers and artists. Shtty troll stuff doesn't blend in here. It stands out. And it's not respectable in the slightest. Most of us pay money to be here. And even when we disagree, we respect our artist in residence (and her awesome kid) to the utmost degree. What is shares is for all of us to experience beauty. If that's not for you, there might be better Patreon accounts suited to your forte.

Christopher Werner

I read this several times. I don't see where Amanda took a side other than 1. for Ash, and 2. for peace. I'm afraid several people stopped reading at the words "family in Israel." Reading is as important as listening, and both more important than talking.

Lana Lundi Claire

The reaction to what happened is terrifying. I am petrified of weighing in. In the name of self preservation, I do not. I do not feel safe. I only hope to see the brave few people speak up, and I thank them when they do. There is quite a bit more happening than the popular talking points get across.

Chelb

She posted about the attack on Israelis on Instagram but has said nothing in support of Palestinians that have now died in over 600 bomb drops since then, over half of them being children, with 47 family lines now completely obliterated.

Chelb

It actually appears that Najia knows quite a bit about it, and you do not. There are many many many sources out there for you to learn from. The one attack on Israelis by a fringe group (that was created largely by the Israeli government) is of course tragic. So are the past 80 years of extensive death and genocide committed against Palestinians. Israel has dropped more bombs on Gaza in the past week than the U.S. did in Afghanistan over the course of a year. Half of of the deaths, and half of the population of Gaza, are children. Where is your outrage for their deaths? Where is your defense of the 47 family lines that have been wiped out from this past week? I implore you to examine why you care about lives that look one way, and not those that look another.

Lana Lundi Claire

Honestly, as another American Jew who feels deeply for all people in this region (and who is deeply disturbed by the west's fixation with this one piece of land that is roughly the size of New Jersey at the expense of pretty much all other places in the world) it doesn't matter. The world was divvied up at the ends of WWI and WWII. New countries and territories were drawn onto maps worldwide, sometimes tested by later wars and sometimes not. Israel is one of many. And it fought its own wars to firmly establish its existence. There are other people not so far away who did not get their own ethnically based borders. The Kurds are split across countries in the Middle East with no home base. The west and the Middle East do not seem to particularly care about their heartbreaking plight. And from one Jew to another, I think we both know why. I wrote quite a bit more than this that goes into the finer details really needed to even begin to broach the topics of Israel and Palestine. It was too much to post as a response to your post, and I honestly don't feel entirely safe going into it all. This isn't the right place. Thanks for your consideration, and take care

Michael Murphy

Look, I'm sorry I even "went there". I'm trying to go much, much deeper than any news outlet would allow, and even then, it's just backfiring. I'm therefore deleting my previous posts not because I don't believe or stand by what I said, but just out of fear for my safety if, upon it staying up here permanently, someone would eventually weaponize it against me. I know you guys are safe, but you just never know, so I hope you understand.