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Hey everyone,

The same applies to chapter 157. The reason it took me so long to finish chapter 155, is I had to cut so much that I'd written out of sequence. Then I had to go back to fill in the gaps and some of the timings got messed up.

When the timing of the story is regulated by 12 hour intervals for the Wormhole Generator, making any serious mistakes causes a minefield to sort it all out. 

Anyway, I've got some combat scenes written for chapter 157 already. I just need to backfill the missing bits in chapter 156 then I can publish that and wrap up 157. 

I'm really sorry for the advanced billing, but I promise I will get everything all caught up this month.

Best wishes,

Tefler

Comments

Thomas Phillips

So you are advanced billing for 2 chapters ahead now? Neat.

Tony

No worries

Marcus Riccitti

I'll roll along. No worries. One, or two isn't a big deal. Keep em coming.

Steve

Glad I set my membership to only allow one billing per month. At least I won't get caught in this empty promise and even if he does actually deliver on 9/30 I will only have to wait a couple of hours to download the other chapter.

James St. Clair

Straight up theft of thousands of $$$. Don’t know how he sleeps at night.

Antoine Scrivener

That's fine Tefler. Happy to get what I get when I get it.

Adam Chow

I’m getting sick and tired of this game of bait and switch. I do love this story, but the increasing charges for no chapter are getting to me. More so now that we are owed 2 chapters. I have therefore lowered my level of support until Tefler can resolve this. I really would like to read the conclusion of this story, but if this continues I will be pulling my support. I have tried to be understanding, but honestly I’m at my limit.

Marcus Riccitti

Hey? You quit your day job to do this. I get it. I'd love to see 2 a month and for you to get off the backslide. Do what you can bro.

SuperAzureReader

As long as you deliver on your promise as always I won't care. A dangerous game to play though

Robert

I'm beginning to wonder how poor Tefler is at money management. Technically he's been committing fraud for the last several months with forward billing of chapters. If the numbers are to be believed he receives something like $2,500 USD every post. (back when patreon actually listed it)

Lancero

Tefler, I hope you can get back on track as you’ve been promising. You are loosing some extraordinary goodwill here

Jarri

You do what you need I been with you for years and will continue to be here for many more to come

Hendrix Morton

Hmm...Doesn't Tefler usually disappear for the entire month of Sept for family vacation?? Guess that's why he needed the double-pre-charge...gotta pay for the vacation.... /sigh

Sushant Bhartiya

Won’t have any problem paying though, but why not charge when you publish? That way at least you ll be bound with some delivery commitments

Progor

Wow, we get the rest of a chapter we already paid for and nothing else, but are charged for 2 chapters on a vague promise that some scenes are already written? I'm dropping support to 1 chapter a month as that is the only thing you've consistently been able to produce. I was on board when there was at least a few scenes provided to show your work in progress, but this is too much to stomach.

JB

Never posted before. Like the story, but please don’t keep saying you’re sorry to pre-bill. It’s clear to me that you are not sorry and have adopted this as a business practice. I dropped to only paying for 1 chapter per month. You have created, in my opinion, a lot of animosity towards you from the very people who enjoy your story and want to support you.

N

I'm kind of new here, is the expectation that tefler would publish 2 chapters a month? Ever since I joined it's been 1 chapter, and some sort of a teaser that's included in the next month's one.

Toodles McGhee

This doesn't work for me...I want Tefler to write a chapter a day and two on my birthday. I also want to go back to paying for completed chapters only. At this point, I doubt I'm going to get either wish. He's going to have to complete 3 full chapters in 30 days to get paid (legitimately) for just one next month, and since it looks like he's lost half his chapter income between lost patrons and down-tiering, he now needs two chapters a month, so that's four - one per week. And I just paid for not one but two chapters I will never see if I end my patronage this month to avoid being charged yet again for vapor. I was a huge fan and re-read from the beginning I don't know how many times, but the author's boorishness and lies and empty promises have turned me off. I only wish I had cancelled earlier today so I would have only been rooked for one partial chapter instead of two. I didn't really plan on cancelling my patronage when I started this post, but now realize I am done. I dropped my tier months ago when it became apparent that a one-time thing was made habitual, but so wish the author were as decent a human as a story-teller, so I could have kept the tier up and felt good about it. I guess one ray of hope: you really sucked as a writer the first dozen-ish chapters, and if it hadn't been for the comments promising it got better, I wouldn't have stuck around to see the change to greatness. May your life follow the same pattern, and see you grow from a person who really sucks to greatness. I'm out.

John

Absolutely disgusting. "This will be the last time that I do this, and I sincerely apologise if it causes offence." In less than a year from that message you're now double charging in advance. I wish I stopped supporting you when you first started billing in advance.

Douglas Newberry

I love Tefler's storytelling. Fortunately I have a life, a wife and a job, so when a chapter is late, I've got better things to do than complain. Keep up the great storytelling Tefler, and at a very happy 71, i encourage you to prioritize your family - they will be grown up and left home before you know you're a day older.

JP

1). You can be the biggest fan of the story and not be a fan of the author's actions. That's allowed, seriously.

JP

2. Fortunately Patreon allows you to set a limit to how many times you can be charged in a month to combat Tefler's behaviour the last year.

MikeA

Anyone else think chapter 155 was underwhelming?

JP

3. Tefler, you obviously read these or you wouldn't be "apologizing", I say that in quotations because a wise man once told me if you say 'sorry' without intentions of never doing it again you're not sorry at all. You've built up an incredible fanbase and you were pulling in $8k a chapter at one point. I don't know if you let the money to get to your head, picked up a gambling habit or worse, but figure it out my dude! You're at serious risk of pissing all this away if you keep doing this (nobody cares about the few dollars, everyone who is angry is angry about the repeated broken promises).

Teun Segers

Double pay for 155, pre-pay for 156 and 157. So that makes 1 (reduced length) chapter for the price of 4. Do not expect this to stop.

RedB

Sorry for any bad spelling or lack of correct grammar!!!

Martin B

To all those who complain about pre paid chapters I have two simple questions: 1. How many chapters did you read so far and 2. For how many chapters did you pay so far? The obvious solution for me is: I adjust my payment in each month to the number of chapters finished in the previous month. That requires a time bit of effort on my side but it will encourage our beloved author to deliver and not just promise.

Newnotsure

I can't go any lower in sub

Grimlakin

Honestly I'm just glad I keep my patreon subs at s point where being double charged wouldn't bother me. But this is only hurting Tefler and his biggest supporters. If you felt Tefler deserved 10 or more bucks a chapter and just got double dinged it's a bugger deal than 2 or 1 buck a chapter. So his biggest supporters just got dinged the hardest. Love the story Tefler but have a sit down with the fam and tell them to stop doing this or you will see this income stream dwindle. I picture a harpy of a wife. "Oh just fake two more chapters your perverts will pay for it!!"

donald abbott

Advance billing is wrong. I agreed to a per chapter billing, what I thought was a DELIVERED chapter, however with multiple advance billings I can't keep up. This is one of two creators I support and with a month between posts I don't see this lasting much longer. I used to support several creators as I enjoy reading, but for one reason or the other I got dissatisfied with their work. Yes it's a great story, but like all stories they either die or get so big the author can't keep up. I understand that creators don't work for us, we merely support their efforts to create, that support has always been conditional.

MikeA

All the people that condone this bad behaviour (taking money for non delivery) are helping Tefler to believe it is okay to do this. You are helping him to fail because this kind of thing eventually kills peoples good will. So stop helping Tefler to develop these bad habits by saying it is fine and he is wonderful.

Teun Segers

I'm out. Here's why: 1 - Pre-payments (the big deal breaker) 2 - Broken promises 3 - Story moving at glacial pace 4 - Story is heavily padded with constantly regurgitated content 5 - Inconsistencies (Where is my stealth shuttle, Summer?) 6 - Implausibilities (I get this story isn't meant to be anywhere near hard sci-fi, but the Invictus is basically puddy at this point. It is undergoing massive refits in space in a matter of hours by a handful of people). 7 - A worsening pattern of all of the above.

Ystyfnig

I’m beginning to think we are only going to be seeing chapters when Tefler needs to pay a bill? 🤬🤷🏻‍♂️🤣

david .

I'm out. This has got ridiculous.

Just me

So to get this straight, not only did we have to wait all month to get the chapter we paid for last month, but now we are being charged for 2 MORE chapters that we haven't seen yet? Getting quite ridiculous I agree. This seems to have become the norm now, paying for content that you haven't delivered yet. Will this be the last month of this, or is this your business model moving forward? Also dropping this news this short before the billing deadline... What gives? Thank you.

MuddMaxx

Perhaps Tefler should change to a per-month subscription charge. As long as a chapter drops, we are happy, and no broken promises. And no 'previews'. The only draw back that I see is that with the complexity of the timeline he may totally miss a month here and there. Then the torches and pitchforks will come out again

Teocynn

Honestly, without the ending scene in 155, I would have cancelled my support after this complete b*llsh*t of pre-charing for TWO chapters. But that narrative rabbit can only be pulled out of the hat once. I don't mind the lack of communication. I am not even particularly bothered by the slower chapter release pace. But quit f*cking charging people for work you have not delivered! I will continue to happily pay for finished chapters forever, but this pre-charging is driving me (and others) away!

Ben

Writing is hard, most of us understand that. You need money, most of us understand that, too. But I’d much rather you just be honest about needing money and charge more per single chapter than all the broken promises about future production increasing because that seems like a pipe dream.

Patrick Dale

I agree, I am willing to pay for chapters I receive, but this advance billing is crap! I want you to be honest; this wait & wait and nothing is hard to stomach and leads me to think is it worth it.

Puttanegra Ficondo

What worries the most with this continuous practice of pre-charging is that it is an effective violation of the Patreon Terms of Service. It would be enough for a handful of subscribers to raise this, and especially if they are high-tier with large enough amounts charged, that could be grounds to get you shut down. Please don't release these chapters on the 29th and 30th as you have usually done. I would hate for you to lose this outlet.

Robster

I was fucking billed for 3 chapters.. 155,156 and 157 This means being billed twice for absolutely horrible quality.. 155 is just paper ( digitally ) only usable after dumping shit.. dont want to know what 156 and 157 will be..

Mapper

Worried about the 12 hour wormhole effect? Have Dana make a genius discovery about how to get the reset down to 1 minute or something like that. After all the writer gets to erase the problems he created for himself. If the 12 hour gap makes the story difficult Dana can make it magically go away using something in the workshop she is now standing in.

Mapper

And get Dana to drag a few hundred mines and repeat her slingshot trick in Chapter 100? And why can't she make her own black holes like she did to impress Jack's father on the Invictus. Uses the powers each crew member has to solve a lot of the story difficulties. You gave them the powers. Now use them.

vontzki

If I am not wrong, over 100 patrons left over the last 24h. And I have a bitter aftertaste of being forced to eat my own words that it's always just one precharged chapter. Not cool, just... not cool.

PLRus--Founding member of the TSM F5 club.

Doesn't everyone know you are in control of your pledge amount and number of times you can be charged in a month? If the double billing is an issue for you then change your pledge to just being billed for one chapter a month. However, if we are talking 1-3 dollers a month....like, OMG! the sky is falling!

Harry Latham

This is a joke. No doubt we’ll get 156, maybe a taste of 157 and then definitely a prepay placeholder for 158 at the end of September. I’ve enjoyed the story but I won’t be taken advantage of. The fact that these posts are coming right before the deadline means Tefler is deliberately giving us no chance to opt out, basically laughing in our faces. Good bye

Bob M

Sorry, Tef. Dropping from tier 3 to tier 1 until you're at least more honest with your fans (and even better would be charging only when you publish a completed chapter).

Justin Lambert

The “charging in advance” for many many months on end is getting kind of old. I’ve enjoyed the story and happy to pay for what’s delivered, but this is the last month I’ll be floating a loan and paying an advance. Hoping to see these two chapters come out soon then to pay for what is delivered!

Richard D

Gee how many times can we hear.. Sorry I promise this is the last time.. I wish we could get a refund.. It is not the money. It is the principal.

Christopher Nash

Been a supporter for years. Wonder how much money Tefler just lost out on

1bigguy

help me understand something. Several years ago Mr. Tefler stated that if monthly chapter payments reached $1500.00 he would write full time. Well we are well pasted $1500.00. The last that I looked we were better than five times that amount . Is Mr. Tefler worse at finance that he is at keeping his promises to us.

Eric Johnson

yea, paid for 2 stories, but only received one partial. Not impressed.

Ronnie Haas

I have not really enjoyed any "new" postings for the last year or so. When Tefer started posting incomplete chapters and then later ones posting "finished" chapters I lost my spark of interest in this story. I simply got tired of having to read every chapter 2-3 times to figure out what he changed. Then his productivity dropped to such a slow pace that I found myself having to reread the last chapter once again to remember the story line. So I think I have not read any chapters since 145. I have been waiting to read several chapters at once so I did not have to reread everything. So now that would take more time than I usually have to read/relax. So I dropped my subscription to the lowest he has and do not really pay much attention to anything he posts anymore. I guess sometime this winter I will get snowed in for a day or two and I might take the time to read his chapters then. MAYBE. LOL

Sean Miller

Why am I paying for 2 chapters that haven't been written yet? It was one thing when it was a one time thing, but this is happening more and more often. I love the story and I'll happily pay for what's finished, but here are two posts charged to August that have no content in them.

Rob Harrison

This is very plain and simple Tefler. When you create you get paid, not before.

Michael carney

To save F5 keys, on Royal Road. A Journey of Black and Red by Mecanimus Original ONGOING Action Adventure Fantasy     Warning This fiction contains:Gore Profanity Sexual Content Traumatising content A conversation with a handsome stranger leaves Ariane chained in a cellar with a strange affliction. She soon discovers that the darkness of the nineteenth century’s Deep South hides many dangers. Mages, wolf shifters and the humans who hunt them play a risky game where to stumble is to die, all under the amused gaze of the apex predators of the supernatural world: vampires. It is never healthy to attract the gaze of the aristocracy of the night. It takes much to survive in this merciless world, but Ariane will not let that deter her. The southern belle has a bite, and she is willing to learn and to grow in this hostile new world. She will use whatever means necessary to reclaim her freedom, be it guile, charm, or those intriguing new instincts that make blood so delectable.   This is a story of vampires as I believe they should be, with their strengths and weaknesses, with their remnants of humanity and the beast inside. Updates every Friday. Also advises followers if will be away or no posts next week.

Anonymous Mouse

Can we get a poll for whether patrons are OK with shorter chapters?

Anonymous Mouse

Lot of people unhappy about the broken promises, NOT about how much we’re paying. I would happily pay for half size chapters more frequently, but this “pay for no chapters” thing is obviously causing a lot of downgrades in frustration.

Vizth Hal

To be honest I don't mind paying In advance, Tef is normally good for one chapter a month maybe two if things go smoothly. I'm happy to put up with some eccentricity from a writer as good as he is. All y'all bitching about you get paid when your done why the hell are you on Patreon? Just wait for literotica to catch up and read for free. I'm here for early access and some times shit gets wired. It's like what a $2-4 advanced payment? Your complaining like he's your employee and your paying him an actual wage out of pocket. Hell I'm jobless right now and you don't see me flipping my shit over a charge I know he will eventually make good on. He asks for so little from each of us that I can find it in a parking lot in about 5min.

Sven Paulson

I understand people’s frustration on the continued broken commitments. I also understand other’s comments that it’s not a big deal to them and if it’s a big deal to you, then you can always stop contributing money.

Sven Paulson

Tefler has made a commitment to catch up this month. If he does, then I’ll continue supporting him on Patreon. If he doesn’t, then I will move my contribution to other authors who have found ways to consistently deliver a quality product on a timeline. I love his work; but there are others who do good work, too, and have earned support.

James Lawson

Some people don't have a lot of money and feel like you shouldn't be paid early on work not finished. It isn't like this hasn't happened before, ya know

Patrick Dale

I tend to agree with Sven, if this habit of his continues it might be I will stop and maybe come back in a few months to see if he has his act together.

Mike Saxion

Typical Tefler. Paid for no work. I want his job. Or, give us the rest of 155, which is not 20k along with a complete 156 and 157 or he will do the same thing at the end of this month. If he doesn’t wish to continue the story he should be honest with us so we can go elsewhere. His dealing with his audience if dishonest at best.

Cignal

With every new innovation that Tefler adds to the story, like the wormhole generator, causes more complications for Tefler to keep things straight in the timeline. He now has to work certain things into the story into those windows where they were due to happen. I created a spread sheet for him last month that had upcoming events that were defined in previous chapters like Rachel promised to present the DNA findings from Auralei on the evening of day 222, or Alyssa volunteers to help figure out the WHG if Dana can't figure it out by the next morning. The idea was to make sure the things he has going on in the story to work into it in their proper position. It has 26 line on it as of right now. He first got that at the end of July, so I am sure he reworked a lot of the story to work those plots into the story. The intent is to not have situations like Lilyana and the Abandoned to not get lost again. So he probably wrote a lot of scenes that he thought would work into the story, to now see that he has to work other things into it in those same hours, which caused him to shift all sorts of things around. These are my thought and may not be totally true but I can see some of this already in his release of the second half of 155.

SP Rupert

I felt if I complained before I would just be labeled as such but I’ve never been okay with the pre charging. I do think it’s fraud. I’ve enjoyed the story but the system is not setup to be an Advance Payment from a publisher. It’s setup to pay upon delivery of product. Unfortunately the loophole that Tefler has found is to be paid by post. That’s not okay. That’s far from okay. I wanted to see this story written to conclusion so I’ve been contributing. But if this happens one more month I’ll just wait to buy the ebooks when they come out in 15 years or so if I live that long. I have other things to do with my time and money.

John Spears

The first several times this happened I was like whatever...i enjoy the story. However now I am getting frustrated with the pre payment of very short chapters. The last time I checked he was getting over 7K per chapter. At a chapter per month that isnt chump change. He should stick to his deadlines.

Cignal

Both Lilyana and the Abandoned and the three Maliri fleets coming back from the Kintark battle were scenes that we brought up on Discord and were in the Upcoming Events spreadsheet. So we can see some of those working into the story. A couple others are Lilyana should arrive at Genthalas. the evening of day 223 and Lynette returns to Olympus at night of day 224. The main thing is it is hard to juggle all the events into a story that now has a 12 hour window attached with the wormhole generator. Give him some space. He probably figured he did the work of 3 chapters with all the shifting of scenes. The good news should be that he has a lot of it written, hopefully with only having to fill in scenes.

Brian

LOL You are no longer allowed to discuss Tefler's "Charging Processes" on Discord so that he can have a "Safe Haven" to visit! That is the funniest thing I have heard in a while! LOL

Michael56Smith

.114: --WOW!! this chapter #157 comments section has been filled with mostly negative comments regarding Tef's charging this month, for chapters to come (next month) and this has triggered a lot of 'attitude' paragraphs. -- This Author turned from Amateur to a Professional over the past 6 years, ... and I think he is still finding his feet in his interactions in some of his dealing with his fan base, ... I gave Discord a try a few years back, and dropped it as a huge time waster, poor Tef if he thinks Discord will help him with his fan base, ... Now, he and his family count on his receiving revenue from two chapters per month, ... from a really good story, we are all pretty well hooked on, ... and he does write a good 1 1/2 to 2 chapters per month, ... He just needs to get caught up, ... He maybe could use a story editor with an executive secretary / assistant to help him out, ... but that is for Tef to decide, not us. -- let us comment on the Abandoned, the Maliri males, and Gahl'kelgor and his black fleets, ... you know story stuff, ... you could (gulp) even write about Tom Walker, ... I would love to hear your thoughts, ... But I want to speculate on FAYE!!! ;-) TTFN

Mark Furry

I’m not going to read the comments. I’m just going to say what I’m going to do. If Telfer doesn’t have both chapters out by the 25th, I’ll drop my pledge to $1 from $10. Consistency is a part of value, and the consistency in delivery has not been there.

Writer Mick

I've been a top tier patron since Chapter 64. I will continue to be one. As a writer myself and a professional in an entirely different line of work, I really know things go to shit. I'd rather give my hard earned money to Tefler than to my screwed up thieving government. At lest with Tefler I get something for my money. Write on, Tef!

Wyoming Iceberg

If he were to charge by the month instead of by the chapter, you would likely gripe if there was only one chapter a month... or none.

TF007

FYI You can limit the number of times he can charge you each month. If you have issues with multiple payments each month set it to only 1. For me I waste more on snacks at work each month and don’t have any issues. Tefler keep up the hard work.

SP Rupert

On the topic of the Discord moderators banning the topic of charging in the server then rushing over here to Patreon to act as Tefler apologists in the comments, since I cannot say it on the server I'll say it here in the comments. What you did and what you are doing is absolutely in bad form. Your job as moderators should be facilitating the community discussion and keeping it civil, not to take one side or the other. In essence what you've done is force all this conversation here in Patreon where Tefler has more of a chance to see it than just ignoring a special channel set up to vent the discussion in Discord which you've labeled a "safe space" for Tefler. This is the wrong approach IMO. You've also banned any discussion of what you did in the Discord so there's no way to give you this feedback which is also bad form and against sound moderation best practices. Ban me from the server if you want but I've done nothing inside the bound of your Discord server moderation to warrant it. Also, by banning the discussion in the server then coming in here to counter any logical point made against the way Tefler has been advanced charging you are inherently taking the side that what Tefler has been doing is okay. It's not. At least not the way the Patreon tiers are currently structured. Yes, I want to see the story continue as much as you do. And yes the dollar amount to support is small for some, but for some it is a lot of money right now. And as a creator Tefler should be more respectful of that. Again, in my opinion. And whatever you as moderators have to say or try to reshape the conversation my opinion will not change.

Cignal

All you guys that think Faye will be back in chapter 156 need to see my logic on Discord why it won't be Faye but Athena. I will leave you with this: Irillith stated that it would take her 14 days to get ready to transfer Faye over on day 215 when the girls were searching Mael'nerak's Palace. It is now day 222. That is 7 days not 14. See the rest of the proof on Discord in the Spoilers-Projections-Ideas channel.

Brian

I see people are discussing Tefler's charging processes in the general tab in Discord now. I suspect they are still there because they are defending good ol Tef. So you should re-write your warning indicating that is is only not allowed if you disagree with the moderators.

2ndAndrocentric

OK, so since we haven't spent nearly enough time discording on Tefler's charging practices; I might come up with a side dish reminding us of when Mikaboshi "lost face" for precharging for the contract on John. I do not see why anyone on Patreon could possibly complain. Forget Tefler. You've all been privileged to read stories by a Far Greater Author; namely 2ndAndroComemierda. If you add up all the side dishes, I think you get a chapter so there. I have already met Tefler's commitments. Frankly, the main reason I come on this site is to read the amazing stuff that I post.

PLRus--Founding member of the TSM F5 club.

Brian Great PLRus, keep your suppressive ideologies over there on Discord and leave the people here who wish to express themselves in a civil manner alone. Actually, you attacked us mods. And we effectively called you out and defended ourselves. Sorry you have hurt feelings about being put in your place. Perhaps if you didn't attack those of us who have the intelligence and ability to point out the shortcomings in your personal attacks, you wouldn't feel so badly. Just a thought.

Michael56Smith

.185: Pushback is being met with hypocrisy and hysterics? How shocking and unexpected, ... Oh well, you can't keep a closed mind down for long, ... And I agree with Brian (not his real name) it is really funny, ... ;-) TTFN

PLRus--Founding member of the TSM F5 club.

Michael56Smith .185: Pushback is being met with hypocrisy and hysterics? How shocking and unexpected, Redefining personal attacks on mods for censorship as pushback? Bellyaching about censorship on a site upon which you do not participate is the hypocrisy. Complaining about moderators with whom you admit you have never interacted with before is the hysterics. And rewriting the OP and his position is rather hilarious.

Jedi Khan

Tefler, can I ask that you not do this forward billing anymore? All the whining, bickering, and general toxicity that comes out in the comments when you do is getting rather annoying. And if it's annoying for me, it must be grating for you considering I'm not the one it's directed at.

Axel L

Wow, will you guys please cut it out already? you are turning this comment section into a toxic cesspool. For the record, I mean the discussion about Discord, not the one about billing.

Anthony Kester

O-H-I-O!!! Beats Notre Dame 21-10!!! O-H-I-O!!!

Bp Hlpt

For everyone complaining about "pre-charging" you are only pre-charged once (for those of us who have been here awhile that was last year). After that one and only one time you have not paid a single penny more than if Tefler was not "pre-charging". Don't believe me? Do the math. Not a single penny more. So even if Tefler calls it a pre-charge, since it rolls over every month, and he only charges once per billable section, it all washes out. [I know there have been one or two exceptions and extra payments were billed last year with no content provided, but out of the many years that Tefler has been posting, if that was enough to make you leave you wouldn't be here.] New supporters have it even better, they are NEVER having to pay in advance for a chapter they haven't received, IF you ignore what the payments are called. ie, if someone joins today, they can download Chapters 156 and 157, whenever they are released, both at no charge. Then, even if Tefler decides to "pre-charge" for two more chapters, when the next billing happens on October 1st those new supporters will get billed for two chapters, and two chapters will have been downloaded. Sounds like the new supporter got what they paid for. Yes, the payment is "officially" for the next chapter, or two, but does it really matter what it's called? And that doesn't even count that the new supporter can download every chapter that Tefler has ever posted without ever paying a penny more. Not all Patreon authors are so generous. Many require additional payments for access to older material. And I don't support suggestions for Tefler to switch to a flat monthly payment plan. It would not solve the expectation "problem" we have when we hope and expect a chapter any day, but it always ends up being released on the last day of the month. AND, then Tefler has no incentive at all to produce more than one chapter a month. The old timers among us can fondly remember the days when he has posted as many as 3 chapters in one month. And Tefler has repeatedly stated that he works better under pressure and needs a deadline to do his best. To my knowledge, on a flat monthly plan there is NO requirement that the author produce ANYTHING in any given month. So "Maybe he posts 3 chapters, maybe he doesn't post any." How much complaining and wining do you think there will be if Tefler goes 2 or 3 months in a row with no postings yet we get charged anyway? I think it's better to leave it the way things are. Yes, we all wish that "tomorrow", "next week", and "as soon as I can" didn't all translate to "the last day of the month", but that has become the way that Tefler posts for almost a year now. We all have the option to quit and go somewhere else, but I'll stick around for a while -- the story is just too good.

Newnotsure

I say you hit it on the nail I hope we get the two chapters this month

Douglas Ashby

I have had enough. Too many excuses and quality of writing and story telling has deminished.

Brian

PLRus, I am not sure why you are attacking Michael about this but I will try to answer some of your questions. Redefining personal attacks on mods for censorship as pushback? There were no personal attacks against the Mods, unless you are talking about something on the super secret Discord channels. It was technically constructive criticism, just not in a kind way. The fact that you took it personally is on you. Bellyaching about censorship on a site upon which you do not participate is the hypocrisy. I check out Discord from time to time but I didn’t actively participate because there was never anything going on, just random porn pictures. The fact that I was a patron of Teflers for over 2 years and was never informed there were super secret channels that I should have had access too…. Well possibly that is something the moderators of the discord channel should take to heart and try to rectify. Complaining about moderators with whom you admit you have never interacted with before is the hysterics. And rewriting the OP and his position is rather hilarious. Well I never complained about the Moderators, I laughed at your rule. But attacking a paying customer who was not getting the access they were paying for because they laughed at a rule? I am not sure what that falls under.

Walt m

Well, I guess I'm done as well. The story started out great but for a while now it just seems like Tefler is adding useless filler to keep milking his cash cow. Where I previously read the updates the moment they were released, lately I find it takes my several days to get through one chapter. The filler is the same rehashed tripe over and over. Just finish the damn story already! It has been a while since I checked in last, didn't realize how bad this pre charging shit has gotten. Tefler is like a junkie now saying whatever he needs to get his fix(money) and not fulfilling his obligations. I don't think I even care what happens anymore. Sad, it had potential.

Cignal

Tefler has a general outline of where the story is going to go. He doesn't get into the specifics until he actually starts to write it. Sometime it takes off in different directions which adds material to the story, but it is how he has written it as far back as I know. He explained that on Discord. So he hasn't changed how he writes that I can see. Are there filler chapters at time, yes and there have been some in the past. Like mentioned above I think he needed to regroup a bit and get a harder outline, which is what he did last month. (My own thoughts).

Evan

I think I'm going to join Jedi Khan and others in respectfully requesting that 'forward billing' not be done in the future. I don't think that you should go to monthly billing, but speaking as someone who has contributed over $600 towards your livelihood (just from Patreon, not counting Amazon book/ebook purchases), please understand that I'm not looking to cause disruptions in your income stream. I want to stabilize it and help it to grow, so I'm merely recommending that you consider modifying your online communications practices in two ways. 1 - Post one (or more only at your discretion, but I'd recommend saving any further writing for the following month) chapter per month, and let that month's billing be generated by that chapter. 2 - Communicate once per week (or more at your discretion) either on Patreon or Discord (or both), even if it's only a single sentence to let us know that you're still there. To do otherwise is not fair to Patrons who want to support you one month, but not the next, and who pay for Month 1, but then drop support for Month 2. They're getting billed for Month 1, but if they're no longer Patrons, they can't read what they're paying for in Month 1 when you deliver it in Month 2. This kind of behavior can (and has) caused (successful) legal action in the past where someone has paid for materials and then not had them delivered, and I do NOT want any such to take place in your regard. My own support has continued at the Progenitor level for years and I hope to continue this into the future, but I too would like some changes as outlined above.

AzureReader

Now to catch up and not forward bill for the usual two chapters Tef would have to write 4 chapters this month. He struggled to get out half a chapter in August. Consistently billing for two chapters but rarely delivering two chapter is a sure way to dig a hole you cannot get out of. Tef needs to charge for one chapter a month but deliver two chapters a month for four months. Even that seems unrealistic based on his rolling average. But it’s far more realistic than continuing to charge for two chapters.

Cignal

I see Tefler has posted the Raptor 2 design ship below, but not Dana's first design. When the Raptor got wrecked, I did a design and dm'd Tefler with it. It was then he decided to design a new ship instead of repairing the original Raptor. He was referencing the first design in the story as Dana's first design. It is posted in Discord. He was worried about the confusion of the design with the Raptor 2 that actually was build and posted here, so we posted it on Discord. You need to be setup in Discord to get a pdf of it. Here is a link to it in Discord. https://discord.com/channels/352559623724728339/420266017218887681/957802297784672386

William Wallace

I seriously consider ending my support of Tefler billing in advance and not delivering at the moment he owns me 4 chapters, but it is always the same promises, promises. Unless he delivers the 4 owed chapters be4 the end of the month I will end my support

2ndAndrocentric

While I did not care much for chpt 154, I did find 155 good, and in some parts excellent

Andy Pearson

Did I miss ch 156? I don't see an attachment?

Cignal

Ok guys, here is a glimpse into what is on Discord. Initially Tefler would chat here on Patreon, until he saw what Discord was like. I would say 10% of his information is here and about 90% on Discord. Here is a couple of links about his thoughts when he setup TSM. These are in #general so you should be able to click on them and see them without being setup in Discord, other than a general setup. https://discord.com/channels/352559623724728339/352559623724728340/532035988403257355 https://discord.com/channels/352559623724728339/352559623724728340/532037013877293058 https://discord.com/channels/352559623724728339/352559623724728340/420013802218586123 https://discord.com/channels/352559623724728339/352559623724728340/415299524026695680 Here is a couple that are in the Spoilers channel, which you need to have a mod set you up to view and chat in. https://discord.com/channels/352559623724728339/420266017218887681/568835190600892465 https://discord.com/channels/352559623724728339/420266017218887681/568834121095315467 There is a lot more about his plans after TSM with an Epilogue, then a Sequel. Since Discord is search capable, they are easy to find with keywords and Discord search function ability.

Michael56Smith

.240: I hope that you can get a huge infusion of 'good' people onto Discord and get the 'not so nice' folks to shut up! good luck! I found Discord to be a huge time waster, perhaps it has improved over the last few years, ... ;-) TTFN

Mark Strom

Just saying, wait patiently. Y'ALL spend 7.25 for a caffe au last but bitch about $2.00 for a story you would watch on HBO for24.99

AzureReader

FYI Tefler’s story and the Invictus got a mention in ‘A Dragon’s Tale’ written by Antiproton and available in Literotica with advance chapters available with Patreon support. Antiproton credits Tefler’s story for inspiring him to write. It’s a compelling and fun story with some parallels to TSM.

Anthony Kester

F5... F5... F5... F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5

TF007

F5

Koa

Wow, the comments here are more interesting to read than the story as of late! I’ve mostly been a silent supporter for that last few years, I have a busy life so I hardly read the comments here or in discord; but even I have noticed the slippery slope that Tef has been sliding down- kinda like the path down to the Fulmanax dwelling! As a fellow man I gotta say It’s a turn-off to hear the excuses and apologies; you’ve lost your integrity when you have to make decisions based on what’s best for your finances at the cost of what’s best for the story! The story used to be more exciting with cliff hangers and plot twists galore, now it seems more Ho-hum; still good, but it’s missing the sizzle. I was ok with a half-chapter posted and charged for at the end of the month with the rest to follow in the next day or so but now with 2 chapters being billed in advance and no expectation to receive it before the end of the next month it’s crossed the line of tolerance for me. I’ve reduced my level of contribution to the minimum and if this practice continues into next month I will terminate my patronage and wish you all the best Tefler.

andrew finlayson

OK boys and girls .... outstanding questions as raised in the chapters so far. I'll lead off. In Chapter 120 the Invictus is on the way to Arcadia when they come across the remnants of an ancient space battle between the Kirrix and some other civilization. As they leave the scene everyone is depressed about the carnage and Faye is trying to brighten John's mood. She thinks to herself about telling John what she saw on the internal cameras, but decides to put it off until another day. So, what do you think she saw?

andrew finlayson

2nd question ... after the defeat of Larnkelnar, Sakura picks up Larn's sceptre from his cold, dead hand. Has anything been done with it? Seems strange that Dana would not have at least examined it yet.

Michael56Smith

277: 3rd question if you please Andrew, ... way back around TSM #130 I asked: -- Concerning a Corvette and Jessica and Rahn'hagon: After John's birth, Jessica killed the Cora's crew by blowing up that ship's power core, and then she stole a Corvette that was awaiting maintenance at Olympus, and used it to return to her Rahn, ... she mentioned this Corvette again in this chapter but neither she nor Rahn have ever said what happened to that little vessel, ... was it used on other missions to trade for food and supplies? ... Had Rahn ever made any improvements to it? ... It was not on Arcadia when the Invictus arrived there, ... was Rahn using it when Larn'kelnar's forces attacked? Could Larn's dreadnought crew have tractored it up to their ship, is it still there? or was it crushed and discarded, ... Rahn might have done that short range teleport thing to return to Jessica, ... or possibly he had grown his thrall crew quota by a few more Terrans and they had taken the corvette out to trade for supplies (however this was not likely), ... But none of this was said nor was it ever implied by Jessica when she told of Rahn's capture, ... where did this little spaceship go to? ;-) TTFN

andrew finlayson

4th question .... so far, the crew have saved the Terrans from the Kintark (twice), the Ashanath from the Drakkar, the Trankarans from themselves, the Kintark from the Brimorians, and everyone from the Kirrix. Lets leave out the Ashanath, who would never be described as militaristic, but certainly the Kintark and the Trankarans have a strong military history. Yet the only medals ever awarded to the crew have come from the Terrans. The Ashanath built a statue early on, but no other visible recognition from other empires?

andrew finlayson

5th question .... it would seem that the answer to defeating the thrall fleets is Helene's ability to project positive emotions. After all, that seems to be what leeched the colour out of the bed on the progenitor shuttle. So how do you weaponise it? How about combining the Vulkat psi communications device with the Ashanath psi shapers? Any other thoughts?

Michael56Smith

.296: Question number 6. if Andrew will forgive me hijacking his format once again: ... neophyte Progenitors being raised / badly spoiled by their future thralls/slaves, ... and these colorful ladies seem to aways raise rabidly misogynistic Asshats, ... Then, around age 25 to 30 years old, when they finally choose a first Matriarch and begin building their psychic network, build a Soul-Forge, build his dreadnaught, build his space navy, ... and after a century or two of preparing for war, ... WAR! and killing and sacrifices all to feed Xar'azuith. -- Okay, what is happening from diapers to taking the throne? And are there Nymphs involved to take the edge off young/adolescent neophyte progenitors and stop them from taking a Matriarch too young, and then being stuck at too young an age when he assumes his Progenitor heritage? Like John will always look as his 40-year-old self, and not younger, like Larn and Rahn (looking to be in their mid-twenties). I do not believe Mael'nerak created Nymph, he may have altered/modified them, ... but I think they are a common species in the Progenitor worlds, and mind wiping your Nymphs at a certain point in a Progenitiors life, (or killing them?) is normal procedure, ... just ask papa Rahn, ... thoughts, screams, ... hair pulling? ;-) TTFN

Michael56Smith

.299: Alrighty then, Tef says that by TSM #157, there will be some battle scenes, ... some he has already written, ... I am hoping that it will be a lot like all the crap Calara maneuvered the Brimorian Commander through, that pretty well f**ked him over, before what was left of his forces finally reached Kinta. I want to see those stuck-up red b***hes and their adolescent minded Progenitor What am in Charge, should run smack into more of Calara's sneaky 'buzz saws', ... and I want to see Gahl'kalgor be delighted to stop getting humiliated, and accept Bael'thelas's unexpected Mano un-Mano challenge, .... except the Asshat thinks he is being smart by insisting that Valeria (his unbeaten Gladiatoria) be by his side, two vs two, ... and John picked Sakura of course, ... two souls in perfect harmony, they kick Gahl's smug Progenitor butt, ... but there will be a Tef twist in there too, ... I can hardly wait! Oh boy, oh boy! ;-) TTFN

TF007

F5

Michael56Smith

.305: F5, F5, F5, ... Come on Chapter #156! I want to know what comes next, F5, F5. F5, ... FAYE!!! ;-) TTFN

Luxxx

I'd like to point out that as of Chapter 155, TSM is closing in on 4 _million_ words. Current rough count is somewhere around 3,970,000. For comparison: Entire ASoIaF Series: ~1,770,000 Entire Harry Potter series: ~1,100,000 LoTR: ~576,000 Entire Wheel of Time Series: ~4,010,000 Truly a monumental effort.

thomas poulsen

Luxxx <- a good story takes a long time to write out!

Timothy Lucas

Don't comment on here often. But after reading above comments. 1 person above mentioned another ( Free).. story on Literotica. I have to say it's actually really really good...minus the normal typos an what not. It's called ( A Dragon's Tale) type that in the search bar. The chapters are twice as long or 3 times as long as Teffs current chapters. It reminds me of when Teff use to write really long chapters without worrying about stupid word count per dollar. So far I see 37 chapters on Lit. I've been reading for like 4 days now an barely finished chapter 16. Highly recommend. I wish Teff would go back to putting out long quality chapters instead of these chapters that are so short they are more like monthly teasers. 😐

Timothy Lucas

If we're lucky! And never on or when they are supposedly supposed to get them. As the old saying goes. Don't make a (promise or give your word) that you can't keep. Otherwise it's just makes you a liar!!!! Considering his fans are basically customers! As a former business owner....that is not how to treat, potential, current and new customers! Not if you want to keep them. And the lack of regular communication is abhorrent. And last but not least.....Constant Excuses Get really old real fast. If you screw up or are actually truly opoligetic....you own your Mistake...or broken word...and don't let it happen again. Just my own personal opinion. But hey, I get it. Opinions are like assholes, we all have 1 lol

Michael56Smith

.319: Hey PL Rus, Timothy here does seem to think a lot like you do, ... I might be getting a little bit outnumbered, ... boohoo and woe is me, ... ;-) TTFN

TF007

No chapter this month. 30 days of morning for the queen.😢

Str8NotNarrow

One would think that if you've already written parts of 156 and you want to make up ground in September... You would have published the first of 2 (should really be 3) chapters by now. Concerning

Newnotsure

Tefler talk to us here please I don’t go to the discord site much

Anthony Kester

BROWNS WIN!!! BROWNS WIN!!! Probably be the only one of the season.

TF007

Bears Win!!! Bears Win!!!

Michael56Smith

.338: And a brave cheer for the CHIEFS victory over those Cardinals!!

DemonHunterCole

Over 11 days into the month and nothing… it’s disappointing as he said he had the majority of the next two chapters already written.

TF007

So if I was a betting man I would say the chapter will come out between the 15th- 20th.

Newnotsure

If so I will leave love the story but I did not agree to the prepayment plan. If I get a hamburger today I will pay you Thursday

Newnotsure

Only one but will wait I get it or them then make my mind up at that time

Timothy Lucas

Will be interesting to see if it's shorter then the last chapter. I don't count words, but I swear it seems they get shorter every chapter lol

Mojarra

Tefler - allow me to point out that you are missing an excellent opportunity to use feedback from Patreon to improve your writing. The key to improvement in any area is to practice, but also to have some way of frequently and objectively measuring the quality of your results. Here on Patreon, this measurement is simple - income. Especially since income is your actual desired product, at least from your perspective as a professional writer. But the usefulness of this measurement depends on how tightly linked payments are to your work; in other words, you need to be able to say things like “this month was a battle scene and I got a bump in income, therefore maybe the readers like battle scenes more than my average writing, so I should see if this holds up after several trials, and if so increase the frequency of battle scenes” In other words, IF payments were tightly linked to your output, you could do any writing experiment you want, find out what readers like and don’t like, titrate everything to a perfect mix, and write what your audience desires, while at the same time maximizing your income. Treat your monthly work as an ongoing experiment, as “training” in the same way that professional athletes train(practice), monitor, change, retest, and keep track of everything to figure out what works best. But in order for this to work, your monthly payments MUST link directly to your monthly output. This means being thoughtful about how you present your work relative to the payment schedule. Getting payments for work you haven’t done yet makes the measurement almost meaningless (too low resolution to be very helpful). You need folks to get your work, have a chance to read and chat about it here, and adjust their payment settings before payday. (Im thinking about a week.) I’m sure folks here would LOVE to be able to tell you how good or bad they feel about your work, directly, every month, and would be all over this reward method. AND it would alleviate the whole payment/expectation angst that is rotting away your readership. Sure, it’s some bookkeeping work, and would require you to catch up to your payments first, but IMO it would go a long way toward your transition from an amateur writer to a professional.

Big Orca

One of the reason we read books written by others, is to be exposed to new ideas, new POV, etc. I have read stories where tech and battles dominate, and those get boring real quick. I mean, just go watch an action movie if all you need are battles. I enjoy the build up, the expression of the author’s imagination. I enjoy reading the growth of each individual. However, don’t keep on repeating the same sex scenes over and over again. Would love to read an entire chapter about each lioness, how they use their brilliantness to improve the lives for themselves and others, without just being bent over a table. Currently, this story is getting really unwieldy. Many scenes turns into housekeeping: who goes on a mission, who doesn’t, explanations from John, more coddling from John to smooth over possibly hurt feelings, etc. a short scene turns into a major production simply because there are too many people. Tefler has delivered a nicely woven universe, with unique characters and history. However, it feels like we are bogging down. Maybe bringing in co-authors to explore the side stories and characters further, with Tefler focusing on the main crew, will help us reach some sort of “phase 1” conclusion in our lifetime.

John Gregory

Any day now Chapter 156 will come out and chapter 157 at the end of the month. If Tefler stays true to his word, this will happen. I hope for him it will, because reading a lot of the posts here, he will start loosing followers or people down-grading their membership hand over fist if he doesn't. I understand that Tefler works best under pressure. Well, the pressure is on. Stay true to your word or you will loose a lot of money. Just saying...

TF007

F5

Michael56Smith

.367: ,... burp! focus, squint,... press F5,... sip,... belch,.... wipe chin,... were was I? ;-) TTFN

Michael56Smith

.368: Hey, this "A Dragon's Tale" is pretty good, ... liking it! ;-) TTFN

Dean Lee

Been there… “the missing dragon” is great… “what feats he did that day” & dream drive

Michael56Smith

I've completed the first 4 chapters of "A Dragon's Tale", on Literotica, so far in first day, ... this should help make the wait for Tef's next drop(s) easier, ... ;-) TTFN

Grey Manley

An update of any kind, please.

Jim lynch

So much for finishing much faster than normal

SP Rupert

Tefler, it’s been more than half the month (September 16th) without an update to 156, 157 or news of 158. At this point I would have thought a schedule would have had you releasing 156 and a few days away from 157. Both of which you precharged. Based on your track record and not wanting to feed into your behavior of dropping paid posts without content on them I have edited my pledge to limit the amount you can charge me per month. I urge you to be more honest to your Patrons and keep them up to date with your progress. A monthly update accompanied with empty paid posts 10 minutes before the end of the monthly billing cycle does not quality.

KingDumple

If you expect us all to just accept your new habit of pre-charging one or more chapters, could we at least get a weekly check in, or an occasional update on progress in return?

AzureReader

You’ll get whatever he can write on the last day of the month. There’s no sense expecting Tef to tell you that every week.

Michael56Smith

.395: Ole Tef needs to get himself an Intern that can work as a story editor, proofreader, continuity editor, and most importantly, a reader advice / relationship advisor, ... and the Intern could be the one to post regular story progress updates to his rabid fanbase, without boggling Tef's writing elbow, ... Or maybe he needs a magical Genie for Authors, ... ;-) TTFN

BobTheBrit

Morning. can I just say that poking a bear with a sharp stick rarely has good results. Tef will post when he has product, and constantly weighing him down with negative vibes is not a good way of encouraging him.

Wozza

^ 100% This ^

Anthony Kester

This is the thing, nobody made Tefler pre-charge for two chapters. Nobody made Tefler not engage his fans. So, to give him a "Participation Trophy" is paramount to awarding bad behavior. I think that there have been more than enough suggestions on how Tefler can make the peace made here. He really should consider some of them.

BobTheBrit

Why should he Anthony? He is creating his own worlds and I’m sure that takes concentration, a lot of time and talent. also, no one is forcing you to pay the relatively small amount of cash it takes to get world class entertainment. Basically, I’m just saying leave the man alone to get on with it. I’m not trying to be rude, but there are some comments on here that I am sure would not be said to his face. My mother used to say if you don’t have anything nice to say, say nothing.

Anthony Kester

Why should he? Well, we have together donated enough so he could quit his job and write full time. Relatively small amount is subjective. I recently added up what I've donated to Tefler over the past five years and eleven months. I was even surprised at the number. Yes, I know, nobody made me donate that much money. I would say what I have to his face since my mother taught me to speak my mind. I do try to tone it down since none of you are right in front of me and are just words on a screen and nothing more.

Sceptre

Well, now that you brought it up, how many of those donations, over the past 5 years and 11 months, have you sent off and received nothing in return? My guess is that you've received exactly what you expected for every single one of them. And you'll receive what you expect for the two donations you're currently talking about too. Just be patient.

Anthony Kester

I've got more patience than most normal humans. Remember, us railroaders have sat in one spot on a train for hours for absolutely no reason at all. I just don't like not getting an explanation.

Scruples44

Putting up 2 i owe you`s is only bad if they are not delivered upon, Tefler still has 13 days left to deliver, until then, have patience. Cheers

Rocketman

It has been awhile since I was on Discord. Would someone please give me the link for Tef’s discussion group?

Steve

I really like for Tef to give us a sitrep in the middle of the month. Just how it is going along. Otherwise it’s just empty promises on „just a few scenes“. I really enjoy his releases whenever he comes along with it. Greatness takes time but a few little words won’t kill the writing flow. And it has to be on Patreon where his loyal customers wait for the next great piece from our favorite wordsmith.

Rocketman

I have the Discord app on my iPad but I cannot get back to the discussion groups for TSM. If anyone can help I would be most appreciative.

Anthony Kester

Like the days of old, my Browns choked and lost today. Some things will never change.

Paul Mansur

Hey everyone, hope you're all having a great Sunday. Hey Tefler, hope everything is coming along as planned. For all of you who are chomping at the bit and complaining about not getting chapters... I get it but would you rather have a well thought out and complete story or some slapdash thrown together and thoughtless trash?... just be patient. Tefler will deliver. Tefler I believe in you.

William Wallace

I am still waiting for SOL to get updated!!

Mike Saxion

So? Exactly when are we going to see 156 and 157. Current activity indicates never, but one can hope.

Andy Pearson

How many more months until the payments are evened out I wonder?

TechGuyStuff

He's already addicted. I don't see him changing his ways. He has to deliver 3 chapters to be able to get paid again, so he'll deliver 2, give us a preview of the third, and precharge for the fourth. He's an addict. He can't help it. And we're all helping him with the addiction since we're all giving him what he's addicted to.

TF007

So heard a rumor that the chapter will drop today……F5…F5…F5

Michael56Smith

.430: ... using RAMMING SPEED! Admiral Athony Kester, ... Pressing the F5F5F5F5 key, ... ;-) TTFN

2ndAndrocentric

Having worn out all 56 phalanges, I am now using my bloody nose. The resultant whiplash makes me unable to reach hyperwarp ramming speed. I have scheduled for prosthetic replacements; but the insurance is having trouble authorizing it despite the psychiatric evaluation.

Linda

I realize life gets crazy and that once you take your hobby and turn it into you job your muse can disappear. I get that Teflers lifestyle has probably changed once he started getting more and more followers, but this is extremely frustrating. Getting charged one month ahead was bad enough but now we are getting charged for 2 chapters? Tefler, I love your stories and hope to support you for a long long time, but if you keep going like this you are going to lose your audience, and your paychecks.

Lyrdian

For the people complaining. Get over it. The amount you pay is up to you, and you have complete control over the money. Personally, Tefler has earned a lot of slack with me and he will have to disappear for MONTHS before he has any worries over my sub. There are many times that he delivers much larger than intended for the same price when he could have easily broken it up into 2-3 parts and charged for each. The amount he has written in the time it has taken is outstanding compared to most authors and HE lets you choose the price. So leave or don’t. Be here… or don’t. But quit complaining and start refreshing boys and girls. We are the F5 club. 100% support you Tefler, I have said it before and will say it again… take your time, take care of family and bring us a good chapter, but don’t kill yourself over it.

Anthony Kester

Shh... I heard a rumor from a guy at the place that Chapter's 156 and 157 will be released sometime between now and 23:59 PDT on the 30th. Shh... Don't tell anyone I told you.

John Gregory

Michael Carney, who are the rwo other authors that you are reading, and what genre is it? I too am looking for alternatives to Tefler as he is becoming too unreliable for my taste. If he does not deliver what we have already paid for, then I'm out.

Cignal

Just so you know, Tefler has been averaging about 1 chapter a month since Spring of 2021. He is one of the more consistent output Authors I follow.

Robster

Hmm i seen others producing output almost twice a week... on two different Universes/Stories balling the same amount per month. True he is consistent..

Brian

Only 9 days away from a half done/slapped together chapter, bad excuses why things went bad and another placeholder to "Spread out the payments".

Richard Thietje

Thank you, Tefler, for the best story I've read in a long time. I eagerly await the next chapter. Please don't let the whiners affect your joy in writing this saga. It would be a great loss if they cause you to stop writing. Kudos and keep it going!

TF007

Sit and wait like everyone else and stop whining. If you don’t like the way things are then walk away and close your account. Tefler don’t listen to these cry babies and keep up the hard work. The last thing anyone wants is for you to get burned out because of the naysayers.

JP

I don't think the 10 fans defending Tefler's broken promises realize that if he keeps this up and loses the majority of his paying customers they're going to have to keep funding Tefler's new lifestyle to the tune of $800 a month each, which sadly wouldn't surprise me if some of them were willing

Newnotsure

Okay here is a stupid question, stupid because I never did notice this NOT COMPLAINING just asking when did Tefler tell us he was going to raise the donation amount. Like I said just asking I just started to pay attention to the bill for my patron account this month. Like others said there are sometimes hundreds of chats here and some may not be kept. Just asking NOT COMPLAINING. So please be nice on this .Tefler keep them coming I don’t care when, once a month, two times a month or even once every three months. Just keep them coming. If you need time because you have written such a fantastic story and need to plan then do that, you have made a choice to make a living in a very hard profession. We your patreon supporters we will back you. But you need to talk to us here not on Discord We support you here. Please keep on writing.

Rev. Thwack

I've been enjoying the story for a while now, and I've got no problems paying for that. I do have a bit of a heartburn for paying for chapters in advanced, and the 156/157 bit has really gotten to me. While Tefler puts out great stuff, chapters don't come out at a huge pace. Occasionally paying in advance for a chapter is fine, and it's something where I can see him being able to catch up. Being two chapters behind when he has trouble producing even a chapter a month... This feels like a losing strategy. Tefler, I really want to stay as a supporter, but if you pre-charge for another chapter before you're caught up with these, I'm going to leave. I can't bring myself to stay supporting if you're stuck in a backlog of charged chapters.

David Shmilowitz

Actions speak louder than words. If Tefler does what he said and posts both completed chapters he owes us by the end of the month, then ok, all is well. if not, then despite how good the story is, I'm not going to subsidize fraud so I'll cancel my subscription.

TF007

Thank you Tefler for all your hard work. Keep up the good job.

Nick White

Even if he misses a deadline he has never double billed us for a chapter, chill the fuck out and let the poor man alone , it's like anything else you can have it on time and done shitty or it's done when it's done

Brian

Only 7 days away from a half done/slapped together chapter, bad excuses why things went bad and another placeholder to "Spread out the payments".

TF007

F5…F5…F5

TF007

So in future chapters Tefler still needs to upgrade the Invictus armor. Front 50m is 20 shaped and the rest is 15 shaped. Need to get all of it up to at least 35 shaped before first battle. I wonder how long it would take to build Progenitor shield generator with Dana’s white soul forge??? Wormhole generator took 8 hours and it was highest grade metal so maybe 8 hours for progenitor shield generator🤔

Anthony Kester

I forgot to mention, my Cleveland Browns beat the Shitsburg Steelers last night 29-17!!! Whoop... Whoop!!!

Anthony Kester

To all my Australian brothers and sisters, GO CATS GO!!!

Aaron Yuro-Smith

Hey Tefler. Don't forget to update Literotica. I recently saw another author I am a patron of have their story removed for "locking content behind a paywall"

TF007

So when John and crew left the shroud they got huge power boost but when they came back the shroud didn’t mute their powers because they haven’t said anything. You would think if the shroud was holding back so much power then when they went back they should feel it. Just a random thought 🤔

TF007

Now that they have Dana’s white soul forge they should probably make 10m versions of quantum flux cannons to added to the two empty 10m slots open in the Raptor 2.0.

2ndAndrocentric

Please ignore the following post if you do not like fusion cuisine side dishes; or if "you have a life." :) Meet the Neighbors Part 1 ”Coming for lunch?” Kaisha’s head asked politely poking through the doorway. Before even her husband looked her way, her swiveling furry ears picked up the agitated sounds of his servos. She was attentive enough that from those mechanical sounds alone she knew her husband was agitated and he wouldn’t make it for their lunch date. ”Crappy timing, no time, go!” To everyone in the room, Moralez’ reply sounded downright nasty but Kaisha knew better. She suppressed a smile to help her husband keep up the public act of being a surly, uncouth tough guy. Not only was she not offended, as a Polar she had him so well understood that she knew his exasperation was at being denied time with her. That made her happy as her claws were still firmly entrenched in his heart, so to speak. She turned around and let her furry white tail “accidentally” poke through the barely open door. She made two distinct moves which to anyone would have seemed random and left. Moralez felt a pang of regret at being curt with his wife. By the time he looked up from the emergency report he only caught her tail. He had seen those movements before. She was not upset at all. In fact, she was turned on by his tough guy routine and was reminding him that she would soothe his cares away when he made it home. He also suppressed a smile. Have to be a hard ass so no one would think he had a soft side. He got back to the latest surprise to land on “his” station. As security chief for the largest Coalition staging area he did not like surprises, despite their frequent occurrence. This one was a doozy though. A massive energy signature had suddenly spiked about 2 kilometers away and suddenly a 750 meter ship of completely unknown design seemed to materialize. Moreover, it did not register on any sensor, but it’s gleaming white hull was clearly visible; along with an impressive series of tubes that seemed very likely to be weaponry. On automatic, one of the point defense “cupcakes” had been spitting tungsten at it but it just bounced off as if some invisible shell surrounded it. A Valbram designed laser had shortly joined the fray, making no dent whatsoever in the mysterious craft which certainly appeared to be a warship. It just hung there for a few minutes, completely oblivious to the best defenses humans and Valbrams could bring to bear. He then turned his eyes to the live feed from one of the external cameras. As he watched, one of the massive long range railguns finally swung enough to target the alien ship and a piece of hot tungsten about the size of a large Kodiak assault tank flattened against that invisible shell and recoiled. It was headed straight back to the station and it would cause a massive hull breach of Fort Hamilton. Suddenly the ship fired one of the smaller guns and a deep purple light struck the tungsten sabot vaporizing it well before it reached the station. Whatever these aliens were, they had not only brushed off the most powerful weapons the station had, but had acted to save it from being damaged. Such a helpful response to an unprovoked attack both worried and relieved Chief Moralez. This was going to be a helluva day for sure. ### At the center of Fort Hamilton, representatives from the various Coalition forces were finally assembling in a conference room to deal with the situation. All the guns which had initially fired on automatic had been shut down. A message had been received from the alien ship on a coded channel – THEIR ultra clearance coded channel, in English. Admiral Brewster was currently assigned to oversee the “Pinwheel” as Fort Hamilton was commonly known and he had gotten to the conference center first as his office was adjoining. He sat holding his head in his hands reading the report from the comms officer for the third time. The message from the alien ship had originated INSIDE their own most secure computer network. As the leading computer intelligence officer summarized the frantic IT team’s attempt to determine how they could possibly have been hacked despite no signal having been detected outside the facility; he officially reported what that a “drop dead gorgeous blue space elf” was laughing sarcastically at him while calling him by his first name and making advances in English with a British accent. The computer geeks were known to be somewhat fanciful, but this particular officer was known for being serious and no-nonsense. Admiral Brewster briefly wondered if the aliens had some sort of secret weapon that could drive men insane. First through the door was the Elysian representative, followed closely by the Rask. The two 8+ feet humanoid cats were hissing and spitting at each other, as usual. This was their language and even a polite greeting sounded like an alley cat fight. Brewster hoped they would not come to blows. With astounding speed and agility they both took their seats without overt violence and continued glaring, hissing and spitting at one another from across the table. Next were the 4 foot feathered lizards. That ambassadorial flock consisted of 5 females and while they were silent, their multicolored feathered displays were almost as distracting as the threatening cat fight between the 2 Borealians. Next calmly walking in the Jarilian bug. Even though the most polite representative, she was personally repugnant and distressing to Brewster, and in fact all the present ambassadors. It was very similar to the Betelgeusian insects the Coalition was at war with In fact, it was a human/bug hybrid from a Queen that surrendered. As usual the Jarilian kept silent and nodded politely as her two feathery antennas scanned the room for information. Finally the Broker representative. Brewster did not know if he had ever seen a Broker. The machine that barely fit through the door might be one, or just a proxy. Information on the Brokers, who had founded the Coalition by enlisting the amphibious crocodilian like Krell, was sketchy at best and on a need to know basis. Brewster did not know if any human had actually ever seen a Broker. It was time to start the meeting because the slow going Krell had let it known that being on the other side of the station, currently just awakened under a pile of other Krell in one of their watery pits, it would be quite some time before he would come. No matter, maybe the Brokers understood the Krell, but no one else seemed to. Dr Webber had successfully made a translator, but the words made little sense most of the time. The Krell understood everyone else and were very friendly and cooperative, but other than social activities like playing poker; no one seemed to understand them much. English was the “lingua franca” of the Coalition and so Admiral Brewster called the meeting to order in short order as no translators would be needed. Of all the species, except the Krell whose vocalizations were mostly subsonic, humans had the most trouble being able to hear, understand and vocalize other languages. The other aliens could easily speak and hear English, but humans were physically incapable of speaking or at times even hearing the other aliens. As a result, all joint business was done in English. “Alright, here’s the situation. A ship of unknown design materialized 2 kilometers from the station 27 minutes ago. The automatic defenses engaged and were completely ineffective. Recoil from our own railgun came back at the station and the ship using just one of the smallest guns vaporized it; saving the station from sever damage, a massive hull breach and preventing any casualties. We shut down the defensive systems in that direction as it seemed by their actions the ship was not hostile. However, 18 minutes ago THIS showed up in our internal secure servers.” With that Brewster activated a holographic display and one of the most beautiful women he had ever seen, totally human looking except for the blue skin and pointy ears, waved at the representatives with a smirk. It was a drop dead blue space elf; there was no way Brewster could fault IT for so describing the alien. Without allowing another word, what Brewster thought was a recording seemed to split so that one image of the woman was directly facing each person around the table with “their” backs toward the center. She was wearing a long clingly dress with sashes cut at strategic places to strategically suggest what was underneath in a manner that was at the same time elegant and seductive. Brewster held his breath and despite himself, a familiar itch came to his groin. “Hello there, my name is Crown Princess Irillith Valaden, and I am a Lioness of Baen’thelass. I’ve already taken full control of your entire computer network but you have no reason to fear.” At that she made a dramatic flourish upturning her hands and in a faux baritone declared solemnly: “I come in peace.” Several other distinctly human sounding female voices could be heard off to the side laughing and giggling. Another voice “I remember watching that one with you Rill, it was a very old movie, way before holograms!” All the Coalition representatives started looking at each other for confirmation thinking the same thing. The Rask stood up first and pointing one of it’s vicious claws at the hologram yelled “Is this joke what I am here for?” Suddenly a small electric spark came out of the display and hit the Rask ambassador on the tip of the claw, provoking a reflexive withdrawal and a snarl. “Please sit down and enjoy the show. Life is too short…well too short for YOU anyway… to be so angry all the time. You felt the railgun’s recoil through your feet. Do you think the humans would fire one of their toys as a joke?” At this she paused and seemed to be listening to someone. “OK, fine, no more fun John.” Clearly addressing the representatives again she began in a more serious tone. “We really do come in peace to help you with your little bug problem. Baen’thelas would rather come aboard with Alyssa and talk to you in person in this conference room. However, if you’d rather, I can just patch them in. However, you’ll miss the smells which the Borealians and Jarilians would definitely like to sense as part of the communication. Besides, for us to come 28,000 light years to visit and not invite us for tea would be downright rude.” With that she gave a wink and continued. “I’m going to exit your computers now, I’ve already downloaded every bit of information anyway, and you’d probably like the illusion of privacy back. Just send any kind of signal at the Invictus, that’s our ship out there, and if you want us aboard, we’ll come in a dropship to whatever hangar you want. Or John and Alyssa could simply walk outside and float over there. They don’t even need space suits to wander around in space anymore so they can show up nicely dressed.” With that Irillith waved goodbye and disappeared. ### Chief Moralez with a small detail walked over to one of the hangars. Apparently two of the aliens from the sparkling white ship, the “Invictus”, were just going to float in without a ship or even spacesuits from 2 km away. This he HAD to see. His men had become even more nervous when he told them not to bring any weapons. As he explained to them, anyone who could just calmly float around unprotected in space, from ship that shrugged off a direct railgun hit without a scratch and then vaporize a solid tungsten sabot the size of a heavy tank was not worth trying to shoot at. They were going to escort them to the central hub for a meeting with the assembled brass. Everyone was very curious as to what these super-aliens would look like. As he stood there well behind the force field that kept the station air in, but would allow solid objects to pass through, his mouth hung open. Coming into view was a statuesque gorgeous blonde in an elegant cocktail dress with sunshine for a smile. Next to her was a 6 foot handsome man who like her looked totally human in a high necked formal coat and pants. It looked like Prince Charming was bringing his Princess for tea. That was the thing. He’d been ordered to meet them with a tea set and crumpets. Most of the rest of his security forces were engaged keeping the crowds back. This was surreal. Because he had been ordered to meet them with a physician, so that they could get some quick scans if the aliens allowed it; Kaisha was at his side. Her tail was flicking like a blur at her intense curiosity. He had not been told WHICH doctor to bring, after all, as this was being done in a huge hurry; so he might as well score some points with his wife. Besides, he really loved her and this was not to be missed. Alyssa and John floated in like some sort of spectral apparition surrounded by a transparent white shield of hexagons, which vanished at a wave of Alyssa's hand as they cleared the outer airlock force shield. She with a smile and John with several emotions going past his face as if someone were saying lewd jokes into his ear and he was trying to remain composed. He was even occasionally eyerolling. However once they “touched down” John seemed to compose himself and snapped off a crisp military salute identical to how Moralez would greet a superior officer. “Chief Moralez, a real pleasure to meet a fellow combat Marine commander sir.” A completely stunned Moralez saluted back reflexively. John lowered his salute and went on. “Before Alyssa here turned me into this big deal…” John waited for Alyssa to stifle her giggling, as he gave her a disapproving sideways glance and muttered “Damn civilians never learn respect.” Morales noted that in fact he had pointed ears, and looking carefully beyond her elaborately styled hair, so did Alyssa. Other than that they looked and sounded completely human, if a bit too perfect. “In any case, as I was trying to say, we know quite a bit about you already and you CERTAINLY have earned my respect. Your lovely wife can go ahead and take all the scans she wants and in fact…” with that he extended his hand towards her, “She has my permission to take genetic samples of me and Alyssa…or any other member of my crew. Except the robots of course. The AI aboard my ship are real people and every bit members of my crew; but they don’t have genes of course.” “Are you sure? I promise it won’t hurt.” Said Kaisha actually addressing Alyssa. “After having swords, 3 foot claws run through our bodies as well as an occasional limb hacked off during combat; I’m sure we can survive.” Said Alyssa as she also extended her hand; wiggling a very impressive engagement ring and winking at Kaisha. “Besides, I have to get through XO meetings with Handsome over here; and those impalements make combat tame by comparison. I never have passed out during combat, but XO meetings with handsome here…” “ALYSSA! Get a grip woman.” ”Right now? John, I thought you were more reserved than that." With that, a clearly exasperated John drew both his palms across his face and then stuck them forward. As a Polar, Kaisha was very comfortable with open sexuality and the kind of banter going on. Kaisha was smiling as Moralez just stood there wondering who had spiked his beer with a hallucinogen. Stunned he did the only thing that came to mind. Turning to one of the similarly befuddled men holding a tea set, he poured into a couple of teacups some boiling tea and offered them to John and Alyssa. Moralez seemed to speak as if someone else not there were forming the words. “I hope you like Jasmin. I always found Earl Grey was more the taste of arrogant snooty French captains.” “Yes, Jasmin would do well and I agree with you. Any ship captain that favors Earl Grey is a stuck up ignorant pretentious buffoon not worth a Q. I prefer the original series myself. At least they got the ears right; ‘orejas fritas’ my mother would say to me.” Someone not present said to no one in particular; before Clown World took over. Having no idea what that conversation was about, and seeing that Kaisha had already deftly taken tiny skin samples from john and Alyssa with her usual lighting fast Borealan reflexes; with a whir of servos Morales turned on his heel and led the procession towards the central hub of the Pinwheel. This was DEFINITELY a helluva day so far.

Timothy Lucas

You writing your own sub plot book??

TF007

F5…F5…F5

TF007

So after GK is dead I think John will be making a big trip through Terran space and finally ending in Trankaran space at the Star Forges. 1) John will jump to outer rim to settle issues out there with them staying in the TFED. 2) while there he will meet up with Zelig to give him a ride back to Olympus. Before they leave Rachel and Helene will heal the survivors from the thrall attack. Both their minds and body’s. 3) After Jump to Olympus there will be big meeting with High Command and the truth about Maliri will be revealed. They will also find out John is their leader and will be going to war with his people to save them all. 4) After that there will be Jump to see Calara’s family and John will help Jack get over his survivor guilt. They will probably stay a week so Calara can relax with her family. 5) then finally they will jump to the Star Forges in Trankaran space so Dana can have them start building ships for the Maliri. Just my educated guess🤔😁

SP Rupert

Only five more days until Tefler pre-charges Patreons for 158 and possibly 159. I recommend reducing your pledge to support just one creation a month. That way you can keep your benefits while only being pre-charged for one chapter. Tefler is well behind posting a completed 156 and 157 at this point being the 25th of the month (assuming 10 days for 156, 10 days for 157, and 10 days for 158). This has all happened before and it will all happen again. Ye all have been warned.

TF007

Only five more days until we get 156 and 157. Keep up the good work Tefler.

TF007

So we need a poll to guess which girl has their belly button pop out next due to cum belly. Post below.

Brian

Only 5 days away from a half done/slapped together chapter, bad excuses why things went bad and another placeholder to "Spread out the payments".

Brian

You have been warned.

TF007

F5….F5….F5

Aaron Yuro-Smith

My 2 cents: I think we need another chapter like 107 (not now but soon) where the Invictus crew is barely mentioned. There are a bunch of dangling plot hooks that need attention. The Commander Walker subplot for instance has been going on for more than 50 chapters. We really need some resolution on that.

Michael56Smith

.587: Thank you, 2ndAndrocentric, for trying to be a logical and bipartisan monitor to the 'disagreements'', but Minds are locked up, ... and only a fresh infusion of TSM will help us, ... just a few more days, ... ;-) TTFN

Michael56Smith

.595: the Old Grand Writing Overlord, has passed his last weekend this month, so only a few weekdays remain for the prepaid chapters to be posted, ... and you just know that he will need to give us another placeholder or two to feed his family, ... but this story is really, really addicting, ... And a big battle is likely on the horizon, ... so, expect lots of fun ahead, starting this week, ... ;-) TTFN

Tiny Tim

I'm loving the story as well, but it almost seems like he is just waiting for the last minute so people don't have a chance to cancel before viewing the chapters they already paid for before paying for the next round. Keeps more people that way.

Str8NotNarrow

I went to cancel yesterday and the site warned me that I would lose access to some crazy big number of posts. Presumably all the way back to chapter 1. This seems wrong, since I've paid for 156 and 157, but not received them. Anyone know the truth of this?

Artoo Deetoo

I've updated my monthly limit to $1/- Depending on his next update, I'll decide if I'm in or out.

Timothy Lucas

01 thru 142 is still free an available on lit

TF007

4 more days

TF007

For the individual that plans on leaving, just download the chapters 143 on up to your personal device. That way you can keep all the ones you paid for already. Lit has 1-142 free.

TF007

So 156 and 157 should have some big scenes in them. 156) will answer the Faye questions and also will set up Maels defense turrets to target GK forces. Should be something with Zelig talking to Lynette. I firmly believe Tefler set us up for a twist with seeing Faye in the tank and John probably missed a cloned body for Athena laying off to the side. Giving Athena a body would put both Athena and Alyssa at full Kyth’faren strength like John. Chapter will end with them Jumping in front of the leading edge of thrall ships to deploy spider mines. 157) the battles will begin and maybe we will get a one liner from Calara, “For the Damocles!!!!”, before she unloads quantum flux cannon and Nova lances on the ships to destroy engines. There will be some cat and mouse action with Thrall fleets and Invictus leading them to Kyth’shara. Probably some issues with Lynette and high Command. Some Walker trial scenes. Maybe a few scenes of GK getting pissed off that John is disabling his fleets. Maybe he drains some for failing him. 50/50 chance John Challenges GK at end of chapter. Just my random thoughts 🤔😁😜🍺

Brian

Only 4 days away from a half done/slapped together chapter, bad excuses why things went bad and another placeholder to "Spread out the payments".

david .

Anyone want to bet how close to the end of the month something (the something that was supposed to be almost ready at the end of last month) will get posted and whether it will be so close you can't cancel before the next charge in advance?

Timothy Lucas

I'm betting 3 days into next month with excuses/opoligizes/excuses for being late.....again. an if we're lucky 1 completed chapter...an maybe a half chapter preview of 157 or 158 lol.

Timothy Lucas

Cue Fan 007..(aka) Troll..Making dumb 1 sentence comments that nobody reads anyway in a lame attempt to bury any opposing opinion. Comments annnnnnmnn Go......10.....9......8.....7.....6....5....4....3...2 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Myrnalin

All the crying is making me depressed

TF007

I need more tears for my kool aid. Thank you Little Timmy.

TF007

The only trolls here are people who are not even Tefler Patreon members (Brian and Little Timmy) complaining about Tefler. If you’re actually paying maybe someone would listen to you but nobody wants your 2 cent.

Brian

One little penny

Brian

two little pennies!

Michael56Smith

.635: ONCE UPON A TIME: there was a commonly held thought. that most mothers taught to their children -- If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all, ... this behavior has slowed the spread of any strong 'pushback' to the mind-twisted snowflakes that are hurting us all, but it was the way of the 'nice guy' to get royally stomped on and told Not to fight back, ... well, "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!" sigh, whatta world (clowns) ;-) TTFN

SP Rupert

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: If you enjoy Three Square Meals and want to continue to support Tefler but you do NOT want to be double, triple, quadruple (or more) precharged for unwritten chapter posts go into your membership settings and adjust your payment down to only 1 post per month. That way you will still be supporting Tefler’s ability to write without feeling like you’ve been ripped off by fraud. You only have a couple of days left to do it. Thank you for your attention.

Brian

Only 3 days away from a half done/slapped together chapter, bad excuses why things went bad and another placeholder to "Spread out the payments".

Sean Miller

So where are the chapters we paid for last month?

TF007

F5

Michael56Smith

.653: Come on Friday evening, ... with the arrival of chapters #156 and #157, maybe more, ... (fingers crossed) ... Hurry up and get here, pretty please, with sugar on top, ... And Hey Tony, F5F5F5F5F5F5, .... not too bad, huh? ;-) TTFN

TF007

So, with the value of the British pound dropping, I’ll get more for my money for each chapter 😁

Timothy Lucas

Lol I Pay every month. It auto drafts out of my checking. So I'm allowed to State an opinion just like everyone else 007....poor little bully😁...don't worry opinions are like A-holes...we all have 1...and we're allowed to lol.

Timothy Lucas

In other News...(.A Dragon's Tale) next chapter,(38) should drop on Free Literotica the 2nd or 3rd. Dam good little story.🙂

TF007

F5

Brian

Only 2 days away from a half done/slapped together chapter, bad excuses why things went bad and another placeholder to "Spread out the payments".

Jim lynch

Another placeholder and I’m gone

Chandler

A month to write one chapter at the tune of $8,000 a chapter???

Grimlakin

I will say this.. and I find it unfortunate as I encouraged a pre release once.. if two partial chapters are dropped and another billable chapter all at once.. I'm done I will go back to waiting on lit or book releases. It's abusive to the fan base.

Mojarra

If Tef loses ground again this month I will have to conclude that his writing process is unraveling, and that the story is unlikely to ever be properly completed. I will go elsewhere. If he completes the work we’ve already paid for, and has only one placeholder or prepay, I’ll give him another month (2 placeholders and I’m gone). If he starts to catch up, I’ll start bumping my payment level back up again. As it is, it’s a fun read, but it’s really not worth this aggravation.

Glenn Hunter

It would be nice to have a Chapter to read today while the hurricane is outside ripping, At least Ft. Lauderdale is just in the outer bands!

TF007

Every 30 days we get chapters and every 30 days we prepay. 30 days is not that bad. 60 to 90 days like a few times before, then I might agree.

Big Orca

Let’s get back and talk about the story a bit. How many of these other Progenitors actually are trained combatant using psychic power? It seems that they depend on the thrall fleet and technical advantages, that they themselves aren’t actually engaging in combat much. The one that John already took out, seems like he just relied on disintegration matrix as the major attack, and some shielding and psychic lances. If other progenitors are like this, then John and his team should have massive advantage.

SP Rupert

There is no new story. There are only pre charges. Coming soon to a wallet near you.

McClowd

I had a thought and i wanted to run it by everyone here. Would it be possible for John and Co. to capture enemy thralls and keep them imprisoned with a psychic dampener and one render them invisible to their matriarch and Progeniter and two make it impossible for them to be drained of their life essence? I want to know if this could work.

Mick Mercer

Think the silence is the worst thing … sure;y an update every once in a while is not overly taxing? But then maybe I’m high maintenance…

Michael56Smith

.689: F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5, .... Hey Tony, do you have an extra Titanium Keyboard, just in case? ... ;-) TTFN

Brian

Only 1 day away from a half done/slapped together chapter, bad excuses why things went wrong and another placeholder to "Spread out the payments".

SP Rupert

I guess the only unknown now is how many chapters Tefler will pre charge for this month.

Keepit simple

My advice to Tefler is to release 156 today...then double surprise with release of 157 tomorrow. Should make everyone forget the past 28 days of waiting.

Khris v

That is a great idea!

Michael carney

Should have released when completed 156. Not both together.

TF007

So chapter will drop tonight or tomorrow, I hope there is a Lynette scene with her talking to Zelig or her talking to Tamir about the whole rip the desk out of the floor thing.

Michael56Smith

.724: Hey, has anyone else noticed how many comments this chapter place holder has drawn this month, ... should we try for 1000 before the chapter drops? F5F5F5F5F5F5, etcetera, ... ;-) TTFN

Michael56Smith

.731: Hey that was a good extra half dozen comments guys, but to reach 1000, (1K), we need lots more, ... ;-) TTFN -- F5F5F5F5F5, THONK! cracked my head on the desk, raised a bump, and it is not even Titanium,... ;-(

Michael56Smith

.732: ... should I make truthful remarks towards whiners, snowflakes and complainers? that might generate a couple hundred more comments, ... but would it be worth the grief? ;-) TTFN

Michael56Smith

.733: Or we could discuss Faye and Athena, ... or Maliri traps (Calara) for those Thrall fleets, ... or the pending Duel between the misanthropic Gahl'kelgor and the mighty Baen'thelas, .... you pick, ... ;-) TTFN

Michael56Smith

.734: ... F5F5F5F5F5F5F5FF5F5, ... Thonk! ouch! that hurts, ... how do you do it Tony? ;-( TTFN

Michael56Smith

.735: I know! if I combine all the comments from placeholders #156 and #157, then we get to almost 950 comments, so we should be over 1K in the placeholder category by 24hrs from now, ... ;-) TTFN

Vizth Hal

My money is on a ridiculously long double chapter, he always gets bogged down when something major or crazy is about to happen and both are happening at the same time right now. I'm not even upset, actually I'm more excited then normal.

Michael56Smith

.739: And everyone is in 'wait' mode, for the next infusion of real live Tefler TSM chapters, ... ;-) (-; TTFN

Timothy Lucas

Tik Tok....2:40 am here...nothing yet.

Timothy Lucas

But we're up to 741 comments, which is in itself impressive.

Anthony Kester

Don't forget about those inconsequential comments about sports. Can't believe someone would use a 3SM board for Football posts.

david .

It's telling that it's the last day with hours to go and not even one chapter has been released.

TF007

16 hours to go

TF007

Rain sucks ⛈️

SP Rupert

Let the record show that 156 was delivered. 157 was “partially delivered” (In my book that means NOT delivered) and there was a pre charge for 158. There’s still 4 hours left in the month. We’ll see if Tefler tried to pre charge for 159 too.

Brad

I only donate 2$ per chapter. Been doing so for a while. Still the best 2$ I’ve ever spent. Keep up the good work Tef. I love your story.

TF007

So true