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Several topics this update.

Desecration of Wings

First, look at this:

That is my trophy. Metaphorical blood, sweat, and tears went into earning it. I have complaints about Steam's process, but now is not the time. I could have rushed the release earlier, but decided to schedule it for March 16th. This will make things less rushed and hopefully conserve precious TLS momentum.

Here is the Steam page again:http://store.steampowered.com/app/793450/Desecration_of_Wings 

If you were waiting for Steam to get this one, please add it to your wishlist so you can get the game when it comes out. 

Crimson Gray on IndieGala 

By coincidence, the agreement for a bundle I made with IndieGala ages ago is also going to be coming on March 16th. I'm not sure if the timing is good or bad.  =/

Anyway, if you want to get CG cheaply, this will be a good chance! Otherwise, it's just an FYI. Bundles are generally good for letting more people play the game but bad for business.

There's more I could say, on the concerning developments with Patreon, issues with marketing, and some new bans, but let's focus the rest of this post on something positive:

TLS!

Let's talk about TLS 0.33.0! It won't be the longest update, but it should satisfy anyone hungry for more political machinations. This will be similar to the Ardford Summit, but instead of a formal event manipulating several key votes, it will be more free manipulation of broader politics.

Multiple different threads of the story will be woven together in the coming conflict. Some of the past events aren't so much loose threads as raw material to make this conflict have some weight. There will be a set of new characters, but I hope I've invested enough in the world political situation that it shouldn't be hard to follow.

The political situation won't be resolved in the next update, though. =P Once you play, you'll see why - this will be a subplot of chapter four.

In addition to the politics, you'll see some old friends again! And there's one particular element that I'm guessing people won't be anticipating. I laid the seed for this one a long time ago, I'll be happy to finally use it. ^-^

Anyway, I'm afraid the DoW release, Patreon nonsense, and other issues will still suck up some of my time. But I hope everyone looks forward to the TLS content I'm slowly forging through all that!

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Edward Culham

i bet its the tie to the royal family that cult had

Secular Reason (edited)

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2026-09-25 01:00 Sierra, you said: "In addition to the politics, you'll see some old friends again! And there's one particular element that I'm guessing people won't be anticipating. I laid the seed for this one a long time ago, I'll be happy to finally use it. ^-^" Challenge Accepted. I'm gonna replay the game and see if I missed anything. I'll tell you if you managed to surprise me. Most don't, but you sometimes do.
2018-03-11 19:14

Greentext Guy

HYPE. Also Sierra. Do you judge me if I use cheat engine to double the game speed? I like seeing the battle animations but they feel like they take forever. Unfortunately as a side effect my current playtime is listed at 53 hours since double time.

Greentext Guy

I thought the king told them off? Didn't they just assume he was part of the cult?

Edward Culham

They believed that he thought the same as them; since he had no sexual relations in years. But if you do play it through, it is mentioned several times that there is likely a royal connection; after all, still had to get into the unforge.

Jan Dietrich

Looking forward to the update. Take your time.

Tanner

Hmmm... Political intrigue... I've got the perfect shortcut for this. Unleash another Qum bomb. Seriously, who would have figured that our favourite healer would have created the most powerful weapon in recorded fantasy history.

sierralee

Haha, have fun. It's not that no one has ever brought this subject up before, but I seriously doubt anyone will be expecting a specific development.

sierralee

No worries, it's completely fine.

sierralee

I always want to get things out as soon as possible, but I'm thankful that people are patient!

DukeLeto7

It's going to be the horrible revenge of the Broom Noble. She's going to pay the message board dweeb to assassinate Simon for ignoring her for so long.

sierralee

I was wondering if anyone would recognize his sprite. You'll find out! =D

Scol

As someone who uses cheat engine speedhack for almost every turn based game here's a little warning: don't use it for rpg maker mv games (like Ouroboros) as it might cause the game to freeze. I haven't noticed any problems with games made with older RPG Maker version, TLS and Desecration of wings play fine when sped up.

Captain Hair

My personal preference for the twist: Someone finds out about Simon and Robin's "Research." That HAS to come out at some point. My bet's on Riala finding out due to how close they're working together. Yarra's my second guess, for obvious reasons. Nalili third, because daughter threesome. Robin's behind the fuck quota.

HarmlessArachnid

I'm putting money (metaphorically) on the red-haired wannabe hero. :P Or the Lord of Blood finally making a move.

Trevor

I'm glad to hear that DOW is finally heading to Steam. I wonder what it was that was holding it back. It is nice to hear that this will be a political update for TLS. The Ardford summit is one of the most interesting sections of the game and I always agonize over what the best decision is even after multiple breakthroughs. I'm eager to see how we can twist things to our advantage this time around. When it comes to the element that we may not be anticipating I do have a guess, but without more information on Zirantian heat cycles and fertility I cannot say for certain.

Wildeyes

This sounds like a good time to play through again, I coincidentally got a new computer and haven't transferred those files yet. I might not bother now.

sierralee

Standards that Steam doesn't apply consistently. It was frustrating. =/ Anyway, hope you enjoy the update!

sierralee

Don't know if this is a better time than average, but feel free if you want!

Handsome Stalin

Glad to hear the whole mess with Steam seems to be finally over, it had to have been a real nightmare to deal with

Handsome Stalin

On a brighter note, "This will be similar to the Ardford Summit" makes me the most excited for an update I've been since the "intricate political maneuvering focusing on the non-combat characters" mentioned in the last update. The Summit is my favorite part of the game, and I can't wait to get another fix.

Dreikaiserbund

Woo! Great news on TLS, and congrats on pushing through with Steam.

Retromancer

While I think the "research" has to come out at some point too, I don't think its the twist - even though I agree it would be great. It seems too obvious because like you said it almost has to come out at some point. The fact that Serra said she seeded it a long time ago makes me think of something way back in the beginning - like the weird priestess in Feroholm being a Riala agent or gaining the Lamia in the withered mountains as a harem member.

Dmitry F

Waiting and waiting for dari to get "fixed." I just hope she doesn't get her look "fixed" too. She is very cute as her zombieish self. Probably going to commision art of her if you don't mind.

Bladestorm

mmhm politics I can already taste the intrigue.. can't wait to see my options for this.

Sower of Systems

This is actually a really good point and I would like to bring your attention to it again. I've noticed that a number of turn-based games these days have an option built in that turns off battle animations. If that's something you could do without too much difficulty Sierra, then I think that would be a really good addition to the game.

Greentext Guy

Already in the options! I like seeing the animations. I just think they're too slow.

Sower of Systems

Congratulations on the DoW release. Also, Wooh! More politics! Not even kidding when I say that the political decision making scenes are easily my favourite part of TLS. They give a feeling of power that no other game I've played has successfully delivered. I love almost every aspect of TLS but, were you to remove every mechanic save for the monumental decisions, it would still be one of the most exciting games that I have had the pleasure of experiencing.

Leveler All

You don't know how happy this makes me, the summit and the investments with megail are the points in the game were i always make a previous save, considering them to be the key points for changes and detials for latter on, i rather be surprised than try and guess, and after i take the surprise ill see if i can change anything by replaying, THIS is what we need more in games.

Troqu

I sent a friend the link to DoW on steam. He trusted me enough to buy Crimson Grey sight unseen and said this interested him too. I'm just glad to see good sense prevail. It has also been quite some time since I last played TLS (was giving it time to gain a solid chunk of content) but I think it's time for me to get back into it. Especially since it seems I missed the king's passing it seems.

Seil

So... I am playing a porn game (well, that's an oversimplification, but still). And the thing, that excites me the most is "more political scheming". Something is not quite right here. =)

SEEQYR

Hrum, now that you mention it, I think that's a spoiler. That did NOT happen in the last chunk of game.

Decanter

I don't think the king is dead. The nobles or council have just decided it's time to force the declaration of an heir as the king becomes even more withdrawn.

sierralee

Far from it - art of the characters is great! Dari will definitely reach a state where she is happier, but you'll have a choice regarding what that looks like.

sierralee

Oh, thanks for sharing my work! Word of mouth is still the strongest form of marketing! And Decanter is correct - Alonon isn't dead, there's just a succession crisis brewing.

DukeLeto7

"He's getting better!"

Dmitry F

Well that is very reassuring! Looking forward to the politics in the future, you are a writer of many talents.

Dubsington

Looking forward to the political fun. The attention to detail in TLS really makes it fun. If i issue a fiat and a while later the guy who sweeps the street makes a remark about how great my decision was, it really helps the immersion and enjoyability.

Seil

That's nice to hear, i really like her Jiangshi look. Her human look, not so much, tbh.

Albert Hermansson

Regarding TLS... I'm currently in a spot where the only white items in the quest log are "Palace Staff" and "Arbiter". The only subquest to Arbiter is "Gather the party", which is green. This means that the only remaining thing according the quest log is to find palace staff (I've found four). This is not very exciting. For the first time I find myself losing interest in the game, which is sad, because I really love it. I'd like some log entry to remind me of what I'm really supposed to do, since I play infrequently. The last couple of releases have felt like I'm aimlessly wandering around.

sierralee

Gathering palace staff is an optional sidequest that you can't complete at this time. The quest log has not yet been updated with the next update's priorities, but you got a preview of them at the end of the previous content. The last several releases have been largely devoted to building the open world foundation for the rest of the game. Now that this is complete, future updates will be focused on more linear plot segments again. As I got into above, next segment you'll be going to Ardoheim to deal with problems of the succession. I hope that update will be more to your taste and restore your interest in the game.

DukeLeto7

Thankfully, I've found no new Doomed/Doom King errors up through Governing Yhilin III. One thing that I've been thinking through is "Where is Thenours?" I've come to the conclusion that it's mostly due South and maybe a little East of Arclent, with Erosia opposite Zirantia, Ardoheim opposite Tatseni, Stenai and the other minor nations, and the Elven Lands opposite Ghenalon beyond the Pithu Ocean, with Rodak at the edge of the Antarctic. The reasoning is that every character we've met so far who has traveled from Thenours to Arclent ended up (or started if we include Simon going the other direction) in Ardoheim, and drawing a straight line from the Orgasmic Empire to Ghenalon intersects Yhilin if Ghenalon is located as I describe. Plus it places Erosia closest to Zirantia, making the Fucklord's razzia into the latter make a bit more sense. I'm not asking if that's right or not, I'm guessing we'll learn in due time, but replaying the trade negotiations section has left me with an unresolved question: How exactly was the new trade route dealing with the airspace rights of the Incubus Emperor and/or Aram? This is mentioned in passing but never followed up on. Are the Orgasmic Airships just brazenly violating Aram or the IKD's airspace? Does Esthera have some type of trade agreement with the Incubus Emperor? Maybe they stick to the wastelands at the unmarked border? Obviously it's no longer an issue at the beginning of Ch.4, but what was the story there?

sierralee

Though traveling the shortest distance over the ocean isn't always the primary concern, so it can't be used to map geography with 100% accuracy, your basic reasoning is correct. Airships traveling between Ghenalon and the Orgasmic Empire had two choices: travel north from Yhilin over the wasteland border between Aram and the Incubus Emperor, or refuel and take a longer trip around Arclent. The breakup of the Incubus Emperor's domain has made this route safer and more efficient.

DukeLeto7

The coastal airship route around Aram had not even occurred to me. Clearly I'm not some kind of route-planning genius.

DukeLeto7

Minor errata: The dwarf offering additional monster tunnels in Eustrin in Ch 4 appears in Ch 3.

DukeLeto7

Fulminato and I chatted a bit because I did some math looking at the official maps of Arclent and Renthnor and my estimate for the total number degrees of longitude from Zirantia to Gheldaron was a lot less than 180. In fact, depending on where the pole is relative to the Northern coast of Philon, it's probably less than 90. (Presuming that the planet is a globe and not a flat disc or a torus or something else bizarre like that. Basically, assuming both the Arclent map and the Renthnor map are the same scale, the Southernmost point of the Renthnor Wilds is about on the same latitude as Northernmost Aram, that there's minimal distortion from projecting a curved globe on a flat map, and the Zirantine Archipelago is near the Equator, then there's less distance from the Western tip of Zirantia to Easternmost point in Gheldaron than there is from Zirantia to the North coast of Philon. The distance from the pole to the equator is 90 degrees of latitude, ergo Arclent is less than 90 degrees of longitude wide nearest the Equator.) ((I also estimate the radius of the planet is about half that of the Earth, but that's based on a much more dodgy set of approximations based on the apparent distance from Ari-Yhilina to Feroholm, the minimum "days" in the free roaming portion and the walking pace of the party.)) Point is that if Thenours is mostly South of Arclent and Arclent is less than a quarter of the globe wide at the equator, then that means there's nothing but ocean on far side of the planet. Which makes the line in the book "On the Continents" in the Stineford library that says "Lastly, less than 300 years ago, Thenours was discovered while circumnavigating the globe..." a bit of a puzzle, since not even an idiot as dumb as Columbus could underestimate the circumference of the TLS globe by the factor of 3+ required to make sailing West from Zirantia to Gheldaron or vice versa anything other than a dead loss economically. I think this line predated the Great Arclentian Continental rotation, so you might want to check it for consistency. Hopefully you know some Succubi with a planetary geometry fetish. :D

DukeLeto7

Not really a problem per se, but looks odd. The Battleground submap in Ardoheim Events in the 3rd Arclent War is used for several scenes, including the Simon + Antarion bridge battle and the Aka team looking at the Wall of Ivala going up. This latter has the house Antarion was hanging out in front of prior to the bridge battle in the upper right hand corner, and Antarion is visible chilling out during the Wall of Ivala scene. No effect on gameplay but it looks a bit silly.

sierralee

Sorry, but it's going to take me a bit to get back to you on all these things. Pretty busy day for me. I think the dwarf is fixed in my version, though, so it should be fine next update.

DukeLeto7

Not a problem at all, congrats on the release!

DukeLeto7

I've been thinking about this and apart from MAYBE updating the "On the Continents" conversation to change the nature of the voyage that discovered Thenours, it might be best to ignore the issue completely. If a cartography geek like AugustusCommodus didn't spot the geometric projection problem while drawing the maps, the likelihood that anyone else is going to notice the issue is pretty slim, and it can just be written off like the myriad other scientific inconsistencies in the magical setting.

Gilgame

So when can we expect 33 to come out?

Tanner

Well, I don't know how much this counts, but awhile back I was goofing around with the affection system. As I was testing out the affection limits I happened to notice that at one point or another, Wynne's affection description read: "Secretly Wendis". Could it be possible that Simon's wife is about to make some kind of comeback? Could Wynne's attempts to resurrect Wendis have had unintended consequences?