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#127: Dream-Diseases of the Last Frontier (feat. Matt Christman) (Patreon)

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2020-09-04 04:07:20
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Certified Pod God Matt Christman (@cushbomb) joins MSJ to talk L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology as the ultimate metastasis of the Frontier Syndrome and – surprise – the historical-theological bridge between Mormons and QAnon.

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anonochronomous

Two of my favorite minds working in unison! What a treat, thanks guys.

Shiv

Two good lads tackling one of all time favorite subjects?? yess sirs

Creeping Jeff

Just watched Jack Nicholson announce that award and the first thing that drunk mf said was “The best Moat-Shun picture of the year”.

Ben Schild

That outro music though, heliocentrics?

Jon Spiegler

It was cool to hear you have fun man,

John Waaben

Cool episode! You change your opinion on dialectics?

MC Arson

What was that in the cold open, sounds like a bukowski poem

Eamon

Two of my fav people together, hell yes!

Brendan Garcia

Beautiful! What you’re doing here and with TrueAnon is incredible work. A spiritual history of our modern dark ages.

MOLTEN

👍👍👍👍👍👍

poblano pepper union

Great episode as always. Matt's closing comments about the Q phenomenon were so poignant and thought-provoking. I had to re-listen to that section a few times. Would pay and listen to a whole podcast of you two riffing on Scientology, Mormonism, Q, and other outgrowth movements of American mania.

Ed O'Brien

Great episode- can’t wait for the next time you guys do another one together

Bong Bong

One thing that this episode uncovers about L. Ron Hubbard that has not been thoroughly exposed-- the guy was unintentionally hilarious (name of his fail-son = Nibs, for example) and everything about the Church of Scientology is so absurd it ideally would never, ever be greeted by anyone with anything but peals of laughter. Goofiest Of All Time.

There's Nothing Weird About It

Somewhat randomly chanced upon your work, started reading your blog and I don't think I've come across anything more poignantly synchronistic and then you're kicking off the first episode I listen to with an impersonation of a song that I haven't been able to get out of my head for the last couple of months. wtf, thank you!

Alexander Fuchs

Compare min. 40 about the structural inauguration into scientology as the continued frontier with the desert motorbike scene from the Master

Shawn Ali

paid $5 cause i love matt but this greatly exceeded my expectations! your analysis was extremely interesting and I'll be staying subscribed for the foreseeable future! also I agree with the other comment, the whites in the russian civil war would be an amazing episode, I'd be really interested in hearing about it.

There's Nothing Weird About It

You briefly mentioned something about Trump being an asset? I was wondering if you could point me toward the episode that you make reference to regarding that, or any other sources that might be helpful on that topic. Thanks!

Andrew Tomy

I re-listened to this episode and your discussion on the evangelical/Q belief in trump further reminded me of the great interview with Frank Schaeffer on the Citations Needed podcast last year. Particularly trump's being a fuck up not discouraging evangelical's faith in him, but actually creating more like the addictive response one would expect from random reward-style conditioning. Thanks!

Twinka Bo Binka

Great episode. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on Lawrence Wright. I thoroughly enjoyed Going Clear and The Looming Tower when I read them 7-8 years ago, but now I'm absolutely convinced he's a CIA asset and I'm surprised he hasn't come up on your podcast or on TrueAnon. The Looming Tower, especially, seems over-determined by his commitment to blaming the fact that "no one saw it coming" on interagency squabbles instead of exploring the idea that information was purposefully withheld at specific sites within the intelligence networks. There are strong cross-currents between the two books re: cult formation and controlling group-think that feel especially relevant to QAnon as well.

justdave

As an ace sub hunter myself, I think you're being too hard on L. Ron, those bastards can be pretty tricky