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'The judge like a great ponderous djinn stepped through the fire and the flames delivered him up as if he were in some way native to their element.'

Today we are riding on through hell, and up to chapter thirteen.

We're discussing the trauma of the past, empathy vs cruelty, why the unconscious speaks in pictures, the value of tarot reading, the link between pain and memory, shapeshifting, colour symbolism, Judge Holden as genie, and the meaning of 'Et in Arcadia ego'. 

As this is another lengthy lecture, please do feel free to use the timestamps below to view it in the manner that best suits you.

Blood Meridian Series:

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Lecture Timestamps:

  • 0:00 how is your experience of the novel thus far?
  • 1:57 the mercy & empathy of the Kid
  • 4:00 uncovering an allusion to Hamlet
  • 6:30 the Kid’s divided nature
  • 8:57 scalp-hunting and the bounty system
  • 11:00 on not wanting to resurrect the trauma of the past
  • 12:00 is Blood Meridian an unethical novel?
  • 13:00 the issue with mythologising
  • 16:00 Nietzsche on pain, meaning, memory & morality
  • 17:40 Aztec mythology, shapeshifting & supernaturalism
  • 19:40 meeting Judge Holden again
  • 21:00 meeting the infamous Glanton Gang
  • 22:00 Judge Holden in Chamberlain’s My Confession
  • 25:30 the mythologising of Cormac McCarthy
  • 28:00 the two John Jacksons & the shadow self
  • 32:30 the magic/religion of weaponry
  • 33:30 a discussion on putting Blood Meridian down
  • 34:15 sublimating our violent nature
  • 36:30 Judge Holden’s macabre sense of humour
  • 39:00 witnessing acts & words being things
  • 40:45 McCarthy’s essay ‘The Kekule Problem’
  • 41:30 why does the unconscious speak in pictures?
  • 45:00 McCarthy as the unconscious
  • 48:20 meeting the family of magicians
  • 49:30 the tarot reading
  • 51:00 Judge Holden’s reaction to the reading
  • 52:30 Judge Holden as fool/trickster
  • 53:30 the Kid’s drawing of the Four of Cups
  • 55:00 Glanton’s card hidden in the synopsis
  • 56:00 Judge Holden as genie/djinn
  • 1:00:00 when Jackson kills Jackson
  • 1:01:00 becoming desensitised to the violence
  • 1:02:30 the Judge’s theological lecture (“books lie”)
  • 1:06:00 how Judge Holden met the Glanton Gang
  • 1:08:00 hearing the voice of God when it stops
  • 1:09:00 the devil’s association with fiddling
  • 1:10:00 Judge Holden’s gunpowder
  • 1:11:00 Et in Arcadia ego
  • 1:13:00 when the Judge destroys originals
  • 1:17:00 expunging from the memory of man
  • 1:19:00 the Judge on raising children
  • 1:23:00 nothing occurs without witness
  • 1:24:00 why can’t we look away?
  • 1:26:00 Toadvine aims at the Judge
  • 1:26:37 the white meridian & colour symbolism
  • 1:28:00 polluting the waters with blood
  • 1:30:00 “better the Indians”
  • 1:32:45 is Blood Meridian a copy? Or a witness?
  • 1:34:00 chapter assignment for our next lecture

Some Questions:

1) What is Judge Holden? 

2) Is Blood Meridian an unethical novel? Is such a thing possible? 

3) Has the novel been sent to teach us anything? 

4) Can one “enjoy” Blood Meridian? What is the right word to describe our reading experience?

Bonus: Please share with us any of your favourite passages/lines, and any insights that have occurred to you.

And they rode on.

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Blood Meridian, Lecture Two: Judge Holden (Chapters V-XIII)

0:00 how is your experience of the novel thus far? 1:57 the mercy & empathy of the Kid 4:00 uncovering an allusion to Hamlet 6:30 the Kid’s divided nature 8:57 scalp-hunting and the bounty system 11:00 on not wanting to resurrect the trauma of the past 12:00 is Blood Meridian an unethical novel? 13:00 the issue with mythologising 16:00 Nietzsche on pain, meaning, memory & morality 17:40 Aztec mythology, shapeshifting & supernaturalism 19:40 meeting Judge Holden again 21:00 meeting the infamous Glanton Gang 22:00 Judge Holden in Chamberlain’s My Confession 25:30 the mythologising of Cormac McCarthy 28:00 the two John Jacksons & the shadow self 32:30 the magic/religion of weaponry 33:30 a discussion on putting Blood Meridian down 34:15 sublimating our violent nature 36:30 Judge Holden’s macabre sense of humour 39:00 witnessing acts & words being things 40:45 McCarthy’s essay ‘The Kekule Problem’ 41:30 why does the unconscious speak in pictures? 45:00 McCarthy as the unconscious 48:20 meeting the family of magicians 49:30 the tarot reading 51:00 Judge Holden’s reaction to the reading 52:30 Judge Holden as fool/trickster 53:30 the Kid’s drawing of the Four of Cups 55:00 Glanton’s card hidden in the synopsis 56:00 Judge Holden as genie/djinn 1:00:00 when Jackson kills Jackson 1:01:00 becoming desensitised to the violence 1:02:30 the Judge’s theological lecture (“books lie”) 1:06:00 how Judge Holden met the Glanton Gang 1:08:00 hearing the voice of God when it stops 1:09:00 the devil’s association with fiddling 1:10:00 Judge Holden’s gunpowder 1:11:00 Et in Arcadia ego 1:13:00 when the Judge destroys originals 1:17:00 expunging from the memory of man 1:19:00 the Judge on raising children 1:23:00 nothing occurs without witness 1:24:00 why can’t we look away? 1:26:00 Toadvine aims at the Judge 1:26:37 the white meridian & colour symbolism 1:28:00 polluting the waters with blood 1:30:00 “better the Indians” 1:32:45 is Blood Meridian a copy? Or a witness? 1:34:00 chapter assignment for our next lecture

Comments

Brian Whooley

In Holden's quest for mastery over Nature, I see allusions to the first chapters of the Book of Genesis, where God gives to Man, "dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.” But the god of Blood Meridian is not the Christian God, but rather a god of conflict and Darwinian evolution; where strength and a willingness to use violence to demonstrate mastery are the only currency worth having (hence Holden's apparent disdain for monetary value). Holden is something of a prophet of this god. And this god gives nothing to mankind; it is encumbent upon living things to take what they would for themselves. This god has not given mankind dominion over nature; Holden will it take it for himself.

Anonymous

I think what I felt from McCarthy in his depiction of the Judge was that he was God. If you believe God is everywhere, then God is with the Glanton gang. God is the final judge, who believers pray to, save them from a kind of destruction, but He does not save only the good, or he doesn’t necessarily chose to save innocent and punish the sinner. I saw a YouTube video, that explained as Nostic