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Batman Returns (1992) - Full Reaction (Patreon)

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I did it, and I think we even had fun! Knowing much more of what tone to expect helped! It was still campy to me but with a real dark side as well. I think Danny Devito was insane in this in a good way and I wanted even more MK's batman. Still not my favorite style of movie I don't think but happy to continue with na na na na na na na na BATMAN!

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Jason Dolan

Holy shiitake mushrooms, Batman!

Wes

I might have fallen in love with Catwoman as a kid 🤷‍♂️

Andrew Heller

Thank you!!! Was bored this saturday night lol

Justin Samlal

I am SHOCKED that you decided to watch this after the Great Batman Fiasco hahaha. Happy to see t though, Cass! When I was a kid, I thought Batman returns was the coolest movie ever. The marketing to kids was wild, too. So many action figures and playsets and happy meal toys! Before 2008, most people considered either this one or the animated series to be PEAK batman

Night King01

I think the main problem is that Tim Burton can’t really do action and sometimes his zany dark humor which I like gets in the way Batman’s serious tone. This movie proved to me that Tim Burton has probably never read a batman comic in his life. That being said, this movie is highly entertaining. I think its better than the first cause at least it went all out.

Shad Kanyak

Now you have no choice but to continue on since Kilmer is the next Batman.

Clay F

For the love of God, skip Batman & Robin (1997).

Larry Darrell

All day I’ve had that "excited/scared" feeling. Like 98% excited, 2% scared. Or maybe it's more. It could be, it could be 98% scared, 2% excited but that's what makes it so intense, it's so - confused. I can't really figure it out. Oh boy, here we go ;-)

Stick Figure Studios

Ah, yes. The movie that introduced to the world Michelle Pfeiffer's leather-bound whip-weilding villainess (my personal favorite Catwoman) and Danny Devito's grotesque mutant crimelord as well as a silver-haired Chris Walken, one of Danny Elfman's most operatic scores and an aesthetic/art design that seemed like it was transported directly from the early works of German expressionism. It was unleashed in 1992 to huge box office sales, mixed revews and traumatized children everywhere. I remember seeing it while on vacation with my family in New Jersey at age 15 and while I always loved its predecessor, I did not immediately respond positively to the sequel. It took me many more years to appreciate what a bizarre, witty, beautiful and, not least of all, idiosyncratic piece of work it is (especially in our present era of "shared universe" superhero films where, for the most part, the movies and their heroes are virtually interchangeable). It also probably helped that I eventually became friends with the screenwriter, the brilliantly subversive Daniel Waters (who also wrote HEATHER'S, DEMOLITION MAN and HUDSON HAWK). He and Burton used DC's signature comic book character and two of its most iconic antagonists as merely a jumping off point from which to fashion one of the purest expressions of their own personal sensebilities on screen. The first BATMAN is a Batman movie. The second BATMAN is a Tim Burton movie. As Waters Once aptly put it, Burton is the poetry to Nolan's prose. And yet, despite such a transparent manifestation of the director's id (not to mention its blatant, fanboy-enraging disregard for the source material), the film still managed to get something right about the character of Batman that I haven't really seen since (I've written about this before, but it bears repeating). I grew up watching the TV series with Adam West (RIP), where Bruce Wayne/Batman was a very noble, virtuous, well-adjusted square. He was mamy things, but he was most decidedly not dark. Burton's reading returned the character to a darker, more psychologically complex figure (an interpretation that has pretty much been the default setting of Batman ever since) but retained something very important from West's portrayal: a quality best captured in one particular scene. After the Penguin is revealed to the world he makes a pitiful speech to news cameras about wanting to find his parents and learn why he was abandoned as a baby because he was born "a little different." Bruce Wayne is seen watching this on television while Alfred trims the tree in the background (the film takes place around Christmas). Alfred asks, "Mr. Wayne, is something wrong?" and Bruce responds, "No, uh..... his parents..... I hope he finds them." In more recent versions of Batman (which includes Bale, Affleck and Pattinson), the character has become so obsessed, so driven, so angsty and so cynical that he actually becomes grim, misanthropic, nihilistic and borderline sociopathic (one almost wonders why he works so hard to save the people of Gotham because he doesn't particularly seem to care about them; his heroism is almost.... mechanical in nature). Keaton was really the first onscreen Batman/Wayne to be dark, neurotic and eccentric, but a moment like this reminds you that he's still human. He can still have compassion for others. His initial response to a hideously deformed person coming out of hiding is not one of suspicion -- as I think it would be nowadays in most incarnations -- but empathy (nevermind that the next scene in which we see him, he is looking into the Pengun's past because he is indeed suspicious about him). I miss that about Batman. Anyway, glad you got a chance to react to this one, Cassie, and it sounds like you enjoyed it more than BATMAN '89. I am looking forward to this reaction. If you want to see more of Keaton as Batman, check out the 2023 film THE FLASH... and don't listen to those who tell you to skip the next one, BATMAN FOREVER Val Kilmer (RIP). It wasn't directed by Burton (though it was produced by him), but by THE LOST BOYS' Joel Schumacher (RIP) and it's definitely worth watching. The one to skip is the following one: BATMAN AND ROBIN with George Clooney. It's awful. Also, I still think you should go back at some point and watch the old 1966 BATMAN movie with Adam West based on the hit TV series. It will give you an idea of just how campy Batman was before Burton got a hold of him.

Darren Harrison

Michael Keaton returned as Batman for a third time in “The Flash” and fourth time in the unreleased Batgirl movie

JL_83

Oh the memories…first Batman movie I ever got to see theatrically; Pfeiffer was iconic, and Walken was a blast!

KyloJames

Ahhh yesss some Saturday night entertainment. Thanks, Cassie! Also, congrats to Carly!! Hope you guys have a great time 🫶

Night King01

The funniest of the whole movie is that arcade like car that penguin has to control the batmobile. It makes no sense how he got the schematics but its hilarious. Danny Devito made this movie with his performance.

Milton Reduxed

Thanks for getting this up in time for Saturday night 👍

Aaron Mann

Been awhile since I saw this movie, but I thought they got the schematics when his goons disabled the batmobile's shield, and they went inside and started tinkering with the car. Then after they were done, they put the shield back up, all unbeknownst to BW.

Night King01

No he actually has the full waynetech blueprint in his hideout when catwoman comes to visit him. Thats before they hack it.

Milton Reduxed

Just the pussy (cat) I'm lookin' for....

Clay F

I like Keaton as Batman, but Bale and Pattinson are my two favorite Batmans.

Clay F

Batman Returns won a poll.

Brian McGovern

If you want NA NA NA NA Batman, then sure, check out the Schumacher movies, but maybe also check out the Adam West series or movie. That is VERY campy. Deliberately so, but extremely fun.

Just Plain Bob

First of all, Michelle Pfeiffer. She’s always been a beautiful woman and this was her at the absolute height of that beauty. I saw this movie in the theater with my then-wife and felt like I was cheating by just looking at MP. Ho-ly cow! As for the Penguin. He took me out of it every time he was on screen. Not only was he not the character from the comics, he was disgusting for absolutely no reason. They should have stuck with just Christopher Walken as Max Schreck. He was much more interesting and Walken really chewed the scenery. Finally, I agree with Cassie about there being too little Batman in the film. That’s what can happen when you’re jugging four main characters. I thought Michael Keaton was a good Batman; too bad we only saw him in 1.5 films as the character.

Stick Figure Studios

5 MINUTES INTO THE REACTION: "You know what Tim Burton I liked? EDWARD SCISSORHANDS. I liked that one... What else did I like?... I liked SLEEPY HOLLOW." Cassie, I'm devastated. How could you forget BIG FISH? :-(

Stick Figure Studios

But If you really want NA NA NA NA Batman, Go back to the one that originated the NA NA NA NA: The 1960s TV show with Adam West.

Stick Figure Studios

Bale was good (even if his "Batman voice" was laughable), but Pattinson hasn't done too much for me yet. Maybe in the sequel... Keaton is still my favorite of the live action Batmans, followed closely by Adam West.

Clay F

+1 for EDWARD SCISSORHANDS. BIG FISH was good -- wasn't that one of your selections?

Chris Thom

It's a pretty fun movie. Tommy Lee Jones AND Jim Carrey are villains. And they're both trying to out unhinge each other. Also Nicole Kidman is in it. Very colorful and surreal.

Chris Thom

Yeah his action scenes are never quite right. It's like they're too story-boarded or something. They don't always flow.

Stick Figure Studios

Burton may not be the best action director, but he definitely knows how to shoot his superheroes. The low angles and shadowy lighting of the shots of Batman in his two movies are far more visually striking and dynamic than anything Nolan put on screen.

Chris Thom

Always thought her transformation scene was fantastic. Solid acting there.

Night King01

Its half that they are shot flat and half of it is that suit. Not being able to turn the head really makes the action scenes static. At least Joel Schumacker tried in batman forever with different angles.

Shad Kanyak

I agree. I don’t think it a particularly great Batman movie, but still worth seeing just for Jim Carrey. His over the top performance is very much part of the 90’s zeitgeist and representative of his success in that era.

Chris Thom

Oh my gosh it's happening. Why am I so nervous for this. lol. That color you're wearing is kind of perfect for this movie. I'll take that as a good sign.

Just Plain Bob

I would have loved to have seen the Tim Burton version of Superman that they were working on in the late 90s, with Nicolas Cage as a long haired Superman. There’s a really interesting documentary about it called “The Death of ‘Superman Lives’: What Happened?.” Kevin Smith had spoken previously about his experience as the first script writer on the film and his stories about the insane producer, Jon Peters, will have you rolling in the floor. Highlights include: *A giant spider (that later showed up in another Peters production, “Wild, Wild West”) *Superman rasslin’ polar bears *A Superman that doesn’t wear his iconic suit or fly *A producer that has to have his scripts read to him while he lies down This movie should’ve been made, if for no other reason than to see what a $100 million film with Ed Wood-quality ideas behind it would’ve looked like. Here, in two parts, are links to Smith talking about his experience at a college campus. It’s hilarious. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo2KB1dEDdk&t=424s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=53hMYw8LX60

TheSingulatarian

Time for some Bat trivia. Burton's Batman films were considered a step-up by many Batman fans. Batman had been hamstrung by a very silly and humorous take on Batman from the 1960s. In addition to the series there was movie commonly known as "Batman '66". Burton's slightly darker tone was considered a big improvement by comics fans. Christopher Walken's character was named Max Schreck" which was the name of the actor that portrayed the vampire in the original 1922 "Nosferatu" The baby in the basket is certainly an homage to the story of Moses from the bible. It was also a nod to 1970s cheepo horror movies like "It's Alive" and "Basket Case".

YodatheHobbit

Gotta go to work right now, but just checked out Patreon in hopes this was up, and it is! Midnight screening!

Just Plain Bob

She was great in the film. I still think she’s the best Catwoman on film. And thirty years later, she’s still drop dead gorgeous.

Jason Henderson

I think you may like Batman forever! They are all a bit different of course. Happy long weekend, keep up the great work! 👍🍿

Clay F

Michelle Pfeiffer = beautiful in this.

Clay F

Wow, you must have nostalgia for this movie.

Clay F

Pattison fit the aesthetics (which I liked) of the movie. Adam West is my 3rd favorite. I guess could say that Keaton is my 4th favorite. Again, I do like Keaton as Batman.

Dustin Taylor

Where's Batman '89 reaction vid?

Stick Figure Studios

I Love Tim Burton, but I'm glad we never got that movie. I think Burton's sensibilities work perfectly for Batman but are not a good fit for the character of Superman.

Stick Figure Studios

Nothing against Pattinson as an actor (I like him) and you're right that his interpretation fit the tone and aesthetics of that particular Batman movie, I just didn't care for the movie in general. Didn't hate it, but was definitely disappointed.

Macabre Movie Maniac

I think Michelle Pfeiffer was a lot of guy's wet dream from 1992-2000. Lol

Stick Figure Studios

Yeah, her transformation scene is fantastic. Beautifully scored by Elfman too.

Stick Figure Studios

I saw this one in the theater as a 15-year-old, but my first theatrical Batman experience was Tim Burton's 1989 original.

Just Plain Bob

If you search, you can find the full length reaction. There’s just no YouTube edit.

Milton Reduxed

@Shad, Alright but watch it off-channel so she can switch if off after half-an-hour like any sane viewer with better things to do

Anthony Carlson

The opening score is iconic. Just as iconic as Spider-Man (Sam Raimi)…oh wait, they have the same composer (Danny Elfman)…🙂

Choof

I have a nostalgia for the first 4 movies in varying degrees, so i dont want to sound like what i say is a criticism, just clarification, couple things 1. Catwoman is usually portrayed as not a hero or a villain, but a thief and love interest of Batman, not at all like this portrayal 2. Similarly Penguin is almost nothing like this version save for the look somewhat, his name. The Colin Farrell version from The Batman and the excellent Penguin show on hbo max I recommend is much closer to the mafia crime boss of the comics. 3. I always call this movie Batman Returns...every once in a while to his own movie. Its clear Burton is fascinated by the grotesque and freaks like Penguin and doesn't seem particularly interested in Batman as a character. 4. This movie was seen as a disappointment at the box office given how successful 1989 was, so WB basically kicked Tim Burton off the franchise and even though they offered Keaton so much money to continue he wasn't interested without Burton so they went with Val Kilmer next and the director Joel Schumacher for Batman Forever, which is far more kid friendly, campy and more inspired by the 1960s Batman TV show with Adam west then anything else

Andrew R

It's on Patreon just not on YouTube

Choof

Batman 1989 was more linked to my childhood, I watched it 100 times as a kid, but by the time batman returns was on a bunch the Batman animated series was also on, which is what Batman: Mask of the Phantasm is from and I was more in tune with that version than Returns and is more what im looking for in a Batman adaptation. Tim Burton has his style and I appreciate how unique it is, I just like it sparingly

BibbitduBois

I'm the same as you, every time someone talks about penguins all I can hear is Benedict Cumberbatch saying "pengwing". Also, from what I heard Michelle Pfeiffer nailed that whipping the heads off the mannequins scene in the store in one take and the whole crew was flabbergasted.

Chris Retzlaff

I agree, I think Batman Forever will be her favorite, even thoughbits a bit over the top, everyone does a great job

TheSingulatarian

At the time McDonald's had a tie in deal with Warner's for Batman happy meal toys. Mcdonald's was very unhappy that the film was dark and kind of weird and not appropriate for small children.

FranciscoGios

You said it almost at the end of the movie the bad guy’s sidekicks are called minions or henchmen. The ones I truly I want you to react from the Batman franchise are George Clooney & Val Kilmer who play Batman and both movies are supposedly in the same timeline universe, they are called Batman Forever & Batman and Robin.

Benjamin Guzman

This movie is very polarizing and I'm one of those who don't like it. The movie is not focused, it's all over the place. And it's ridiculous that this movie is trying to make me feel sympathy for a deranged, remorseless bloodthirsty monster who is constantly trying to murder infants and it's even implied that he did murder some kids in the past.

Carol_White

The New York Times published an editorial at the time this movie was released pointing out that there's a lot of weird antisemitic iconography in this film. Cassie herself noted that the Penguin is a Moses figure. He wants to kill all the first-born children. Meanwhile Max Schreck is of course the name of the actor who played the lead in Nosferatu, which is full of antisemitic references. Both Nosferatu and the Penguin have that big Jewish caricatured nose. I don't know what Tim Burton is playing at here.

Brian's Dog

Ladyhawke was always my Catwoman, the best there was.

Chris Thom

I think the idea was that he was too far gone from the get. But he was using sympathy to manipulate Gotham. And the question is whether he was just born bad, or became that way by neglect/abandonment. If anything I think the movie suggests that he was born evil/monstrous/demonic.

Chris Thom

I remember that. I was 7 and didn't know what to think. It was pretty confusing actually. But it was also super unique style and that was kind of exciting.

Larry Darrell

Watch All of Them. You have to judge them for yourself, like we all did. That’s what we’re here for.

Chris Thom

I was just wondering about that watching this. Wasn't sure if I was being paranoid or not.

Larry Darrell

She said she wants to see them. Case Closed. We’re watching them. 🎉🥳👯‍♀️🪅

Michael Labs

Looks like Cassie enjoyed this movie more than the first... Not bad.

Stick Figure Studios

Maybe watching the fourth one will give her more of an appreciation for the first one.

Larry Darrell

ENTER if you DARE… bwahahahaha.

Celeste McAllister🍓

Penguins with missiles on their backs...even better than sharks with laser beams on their heads!! :)

MacGuffinStuff

I love that Oswald's parents are Pee Wee and Simone from "Pee Wee's Big Adventure", Tim Burton's first movie. Also, fun fact, Tim Burton had a small cameo in Cameron Crowe's "Singles", which I strongly recommend you watch some time Cassie, it's fun and you'll like it i wager. Okay this is honestly my favorite Batman movie of all time, I'm not saying it's the best, but it's the most fun, because of De Vito and Pfeiffer, they are the most fun villains, I only wish maybe they didn't kill off the Nicholson's Joker in the first movie. One thing that's so great about the Batman movies in general, and the Penguin on HBO, is that no one has superpowers, their powers are just that they're very clever, and very messed up psychologically lol, even the heroes are. That's what makes the Batman universe so intriguing, they're just damaged people, but amplified and stylized in very creative ways. I expect there will always be a new Batman, an ever enduring character because he's a great character in so many ways AND so are the villains. That's kind of why I say Spiderman is actually my favorite superhero, he does have superpowers but he's relatable and fun, and he has great villains to fight! Like that old saying I don't know who or where it's from, something along the lines of: "You know how great someone is by how great their enemies are."

Chris Thom

Just watched the entire thing and really enjoyed it. There's so much creativity to it. A bit of a freak show with Tim Burton being weird at the helm...but to me that's so much of what Batman and Gotham was all about. Normal citizens and institutions getting twisted by crime and corruption and decay and psychological neuroses. Fantastic score. Michelle Pfeiffer plays unhinged so well.

Larry Darrell

Now that was Fun. A LOT of Fun… Cool ;-) I gotta say, out of ALL Batman films… Michelle Pfeiffer’s Selina Kyle/Catwoman, is my most favorite character. She’s just so… interesting. In EVERY way. She steals every scene. I hoped you, Cassie, would not necessarily identify with Selina, but at least feel for her. And I think you did. Michelle Pfeiffer’s performance has several moments that bring tears to my eyes. Someone mentioned in a comment elsewhere, that she’s like three different people in one. So true. She’s frightening, yet you still want to approach her. She’s a bit psychotic, yet you still want to try and hold her. Whoa… I just thought of something. She’s like an abused stray cat… right? maybe? I’m gonna have to think on that one. The scene with Bruce and Selina at the party is maybe the best in the movie. (The chemistry between Pfeiffer and Keaton is perfect too.) The range of emotions and how many times Pfeiffer transitions between all of them in just under 3 minutes is… well Amazing. Was there any scene in the Nolan trilogy that could compare to this scene? That has this kind of depth? https://youtu.be/GuidzJ0iyVs?i=l8l1NtEW0qzcGuJ6&t=1m14s Not many actresses or actors could pull off what Pfeiffer did there, and make it be believable. And the music change too! So Good! Now, in regard to the other Batman films… I get a certain amount of enjoyment from them. Nostalgia maybe? But, considering the other caped crusader film you reacted to, and some other patrons opinions on them, I wasn’t going to push them on you, Cassie. But, now since YOU said, YOU WANT to watch them, I’m fully onboard the Batman Forever (1995) and Batman & Robin (1997) train. They are part of the Batman film legacy. We all watched them and judged them accordingly. Since this is a Reaction Channel… it only makes perfect sense that you should watch them and find out for yourself. Watch Them ALL. Definitely! At some point you should also watch Batman: The Movie (1966). Definitely! Ok then. It’s getting late, and I need to go put these eggs and tomatoes back in the fridge, before they spoil. ;-)

Philip Alan

Cassie, Catwoman was trying to burn down MAX SHRECKS building with the gas leak and microwaving high pressured containers. :) Yeah, the 3rd act with the penguins was weak. And Penguin's death was weak as well, for me. I did enjoy the cat elements in the movie. I'm glad you watched this one and I'm glad you'll be continuing them (completist in me). Joel Schumacher (director of the next two Batmans) has a style for sure. And the bad guys' side kicks are called HENCHMEN!

Philip Alan

Not just laser beams... frickin' laser beams.

Philip Alan

I recently re-watched it and it wasn't as bad as I remembered. But yeah... haha!

Chris B.

When they came out back in the 90's, whilst the Adam West Batman show was still more resonant in the minds of the audience, the blend of the camp mixing with the more dark and grimy aspects of story/characters in the Tim Burton movies didn't feel quite as out of place. That style certainly ended up working very well with the Animated series. But viewing them nowadays after we've had the excellent Nolan trilogy plus Affleck and Pattinson's more serious live-action Batmans too...well, IMO now even the Burton movies feel a lot like King Arthur's opinions of Camelot: "on second thought let's not...tis a silly place". Hate to say it, but after this rewatch I feel that the Chris Reeves Superman movies (or at least the first and donner cut of superman 2) hold up far better today than the Burton Batmans do, IMO.

Philip Alan

I can't put my finger on why I just didn't get into The Batman. A lot of it is fantastic. Maybe it's too long? The Riddler just sucked. I'm not saying you should go the whole Jim Carrey way, but that version was not fun to watch. The Penguin was perfect, IMO. Love the show. But The Batman is definitely not a re-watch over and over kind of movie.

Clay F

The story didn't do much for me.

Stick Figure Studios

And Selina at one point even says, "That's my name. Don't wear it out."

James UK

Enjoyed this one as a teenager in the 90s. It may or may not have had something to do with having a huge crush on Michelle Pfeiffer. Didn’t dislike the first one either but my only frame of reference at the time was the Adam West Batman of the 60s.

Philip Alan

HOLY RUSTED METAL, BATMAN!!

Anthony Carlson

@Celeste McAllister I WISH I HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS…🕯️🤞🏻 HOT DOG!

The Star Treker (aka Michael)

I don't think she should skip Batman & Robin (1997). Yeah, it's basically a parody of Batman—super cheesy, almost killed the whole franchise—but it's still weirdly entertaining. Honestly, George Clooney wasn't even the worst part. I've seen every Batman movie (even Adam West's Batman), even the rough ones, and while I don't hate Batman & Robin, it's definitely not Batman. It's more of a meme at this point—but kind of a fun one. Lol.

Wesley White

Well, I for one am very glad you did somewhat enjoy this movie, since you knew what to expect going into it compared to "Batman 89"! Haha, so I forgive you lol😂😁✌ heck I even enjoyed your reaction to this more than 89 lol! Still, this was really fun! Once again, it means the world that you did enjoy one of my favorite movies growing up as a kid, and this was one of them, though I admit it's not better than 89, not by a long shot! For me, 89 Batman will be forever the superior Batman movie of all! While it's true that it seemed this sequel focused more on the villains rather than Batman, still Danny DeVito and Michelle Pffiefer really steal the show as Penguin and Catwoman! This was the first PG-13 movie I saw in the theater when I was a kid, and I was big on Batman back then as I am today, thanks to the Animated Series! Many aspects of this sequel were adapted into the Animated Series, i.e. the look of the Penguin and his motorized duck, that was put into the series, and him controling birds, not just penguins but all kinds of birds! Danny DeVito in my opinion really nailed it as The Penguin just like how Jack Nicholson nailed it as The Joker, unhinged and creepy while being fun and charasmatic! And Michelle Pffiefer, I think she's the best Catwoman ever, no other actress will ever surpass her in my opinion, and to be honest it was this movie that made me a fan of both actors! Some fun trivia, the scene when Michelle Pffiefer is using the wip on those maniquins taking their heads off, that was for real, she did some wip training like how Harrison Ford did as Indiana Jones! There's some BTS (behind the scenes) showing her taking those maniquin heads off, so cool! Plus that scene when she puts that bird in her mouth, she actually did that, whoa!!! lol! One thing that I love most about this movie is the soundtrack, Danny Elfman's iconic Batman score always sends chills down my spine and even gets my adrenaline pumping lol! No disrespect toward Hans Zimmer, but no one will ever make a better Batman score than Danny Elfman's, hands down lol! Speaking of the Animated Series Cassie, you should do reactions to that series, I'm very positive you will enjoy watching it, same with your kids, especially your boys😁 I think the part that made me laugh the most during this reaction was when Penguin emerged out of the sewer water and gross, I was laughing pretty hard at your reaction to that part LOL🤣 This is in my opinion one of the better sequels, compared to what comes after! It's just a darn shame Tim Burton didn't stick to his guns and make his intentional 3rd installment "Batman Continues" where not only we would've had Michael Keaton and Michelle Pffiefer return as Batman and Catwoman respectively, but we would've had Billy Dee Williams reprise his role as Harvy Dent (89) turned Two-Face, and even Robin Williams as The Riddler and Marlon Wayens as Robin! Unfortunately from what I looked up, after how the dark and grittiness of "Batman Returns" was because parents complained on how dark and violent it was when they brought their kids to see it, the studio exects didn't want to go that route again and that's why they didn't greenlit his 3rd installment! A shame because I would've loved seeing Robin Williams as the Riddler and Billy Dee Williams as Two-Face, that would've been cool! Anyway, in conclusion, I'm very happy that you did enjoy one of my favorite Batman films growing up as a kid, though this is one of the better sequels, it's definitely not better than "Batman 89" no way! Glad I got to watch this reaction with you Cass, you look very lovely as always, plus you look good in blue😁✌💙lol! Love and support always, you and Carly are the best, hope you have a good Sunday, hope you're son is feeling better, take care and God bless y'all and the family🥰😇🙏😁😉🤗✌👍🌹

Clay F

She didn't like this one -- you could tell during the entire reaction. Sure, she crafted what she could say positive, but can't escape that she said: "I still don't know that this style is my favorite type of movie." She was better able to handle this one than Batman 89 b/c she had accurate expectations and has grown as reactor, and wanted to make amends for the 89 reaction. She mocked the movie in comparing aspects to Whoville. Like many of us, she wasn't into the unfocused story and little character depth. She didn't like the absence of Batman. She didn't like the way the movie did with the animals: "I really did not like was the animals ... that took me out of it because seemed too far-fetched." Yet, the whole movie is far-fetched. That is the type of movie it is. That is what fans like about it. That and the hardcore nostalgia fans have from watching the movie as a kid. Well middle-aged males, the younger generation doesn't have that nostalgia -- instead their nostalgia is with the more serious Dark Knight trilogy. My son (age 25) was infatuated with The Dark Knight trilogy. Quite the opposite, Batman 89 and Batman Returns mean nothing to him. She expressed curiosity about the Schumacher Batman movies b/c not Burton, but not necessarily a hardcore desire. She may hold her nose and react to Batman Forever (for the curiosity and the views), but I think will be a letdown for her. Cassie, if you are reading this, PLEASE FOR ALL THINGS HOLY, SKIP BATMAN & ROBIN (1997). IMDb 7.1, RT 82%, RT Audience 73% -- Batman Returns (1992) IMDb 5.4, RT 39%, RT Audience 33% -- Batman Forever (1995) IMDb 3.8, RT 11%, RT Audience 16% -- Batman & Robin (1997)

Clay F

+1 for the Adam West Batman

Clay F

You expressed curiosity about the Schumacher Batman movies b/c not Burton. While you may hold your nose and react to Batman Forever (for your curiosity and the views, and to continue to make amends for the Batman 89 reaction), PLEASE, for all things holy, SKIP Batman & Robin (1997). IMDb 7.1, RT 82%, RT Audience 73% -- Batman Returns (1992) IMDb 5.4, RT 39%, RT Audience 33% -- Batman Forever (1995) IMDb 3.8, RT 11%, RT Audience 16% -- Batman & Robin (1997) Batman & Robin (1997) is often included in polls of the worst movies -- movies to watch to laugh at how bad, and make fun of.

Stick Figure Studios

Oh, I've seen TAS many times (as well as Bruce Timm's SUPERMAN cartoon and the various animated JUSTICE LEAGUE incarnations). I was in high school when it came out and I watched it everyday religiously. It reminded me a lot stylistically of the Fleisher Superman shorts I grew up on. I loved that show and it still do, but I never compare the live-action Batman shows/movies with the animated ones. They're just such completely different mediums that I feel it dies a disservice to both. Each can be brilliant in their own unique ways .

Kyle Reese Popcorn Fan

I think the comment section was a little hard on you for the first one, but if you continue these old ones i hope you dont feel pressured to like them. Not many other people do.

Clay F

Thanks for the reaction. As others have indicated, sidekicks of villains = henchmen, minions, lackeys. Yes, the phrase is “curiosity killed the cat.” “I’d like to fill her void.” I was pumped to see Jane Hooks (R.I.P.). She is one of my favorite SNL cast members of all time. Absolutely hilarious. She died of throat cancer in 2014 at age 57. Michael Keaton’s first big role was in Night Shift (1982) (my first Michael Keaton movie), which I watched not long after release. Hilarious. I recommend.

phillip giroux

I have to say, I don't think the Burton Batman movies have aged well, but boy did I watch the heck out of those VHS tapes back in the day.

Jacob King

Cassie makes a heartfelt apology for treating Batman 89 as camp puts on the movie and we open on Paul Reubens wearing a monocle. I laughed out loud. I don’t know who told you these movies were meant to be serious but they are incorrect. I say this as a lifelong fan but Batman is for kids and if it’s not going wildly over the top and getting a little goofy and being a little funny it’s not Batman.

The Star Treker (aka Michael)

I'm really glad you enjoyed Batman Returns more than Batman (1989). I've always loved Michelle Pfeiffer as Selina Kyle/Catwoman—she nailed the character's attitude and complexity. Anne Hathaway was great in The Dark Knight Rises, and Zoë Kravitz brought a perfect mix of comic-accurate Catwoman and grounded cat burglar vibes in The Batman—honestly felt like a blend of the comics and Batman: The Animated Series. Also, shoutout to Camren Bicondova in Gotham—she looks and acts like a younger Michelle Pfeiffer, it's kind of wild. Lol. If you haven't seen Gotham, I highly recommend it. It takes the Batman mythos to a new twist like Smallville did for Superman—five seasons of dark, fun chaos. I've gotta say, I used to not care much for the Penguin, but Robin Lord Taylor's take in Gotham changed that for me. He completely owned the role. I still like Danny DeVito's version, but Taylor's Penguin just hits different. I was always more into Joker, Harley Quinn, Ra's al Ghul (and Talia), but Gotham made me genuinely love Penguin. And of course, Adrienne Barbeau's Catwoman in Batman: The Animated Series—absolutely iconic. That show is essential. I know you've already seen Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, which is part of that same universe, but if you haven't watched the full series yet, you really should. It's technically three seasons, but the DVD set splits it into four. The final season was rebranded as The New Batman Adventures, with a new animation style to match Superman: The Animated Series—since both shows share the same universe. They even did a combined intro for both shows called The New Batman Superman Adventures. Honestly, it's still one of the best Batman adaptations ever made, with Kevin Conroy absolutely nailing the voice.

Clay F

Yes, while there was dark aspects, Batman Returns does seem more for kids.

Clay F

You said: "I still don't know that this style is my favorite type of movie." Same for me. I did not like the movie primarily because the story is weak and meandering, and little character depth. Not a rich script for me. Yet, hard to deny that Tim Burton did what he does well here with the effects and the mood. I thought Keaton ok as Batman, but as you noted, he was absent much – almost an afterthought. I remembered that Michelle Pfeifer is Catwoman, but had forgotten she ‘transformed’ into Catwoman – she was nice to look at – but in all, Catwoman didn’t do as much for me as I had hoped. While I appreciated aspects of the movie, overall isn't that entertaining to me – generally not my type of movie. Like you did, I will craft positive comments: (1) I liked visual aspects and the score; and (2) I actually liked the depiction of the Penguin and thought DeVito = good acting. (Yet, in general, I automatically picture the 1966 Penguin as the Penguin.) I rate the movie at 2/5 for my personal tastes. I much prefer the more serious Dark Knight trilogy. If I want campy, I go with Batman (1966) because that is where my nostalgia lies.

Clarence Newman

She likes to hurt us that way, Stick. I feel your pain.

Mojo One Thousand

Hahaha... was going to mention "Big Fish", but I was expecting a comment like this.

Clarence Newman

Michelle Pfeiffer is one of those actresses who was hugely underrated (as an actress) because she was so damn pretty. This movie (3 characters in one and all of them nailed) is probably the film that showcases her acting chops the best, but she was excellent in Scarface too. I can't help but smile when I think of Cassie sitting through Batman & Robin, though. She's going to have to earn her money that night.

Night King01

Batman only has about 15 minutes of screentime in this film. So yes less than Michelle Pfeiffer and Danny Devito. Clearly Burton was more interested in those characters more than batman.

Clarence Newman

Does Cassie know that the 1966 Penguin is Mickey from Rocky? That might tip her over into watching it.

The Star Treker (aka Michael)

Well said! Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man have always been my top three. But honestly, the first heroes I ever got into were the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles—they started it all for me, even before the big three. And of course, I've always loved the Power Rangers too—the colors, the masks, the martial arts vibe even one of their big baddies, villains, Lord Zedd reminds me of the Turtles' main villain, the Shredder. They kind of reminded me of the Turtles in that way. And I've got a soft spot for the X-Men too, especially Wolverine—such a badass and the time they teamed up with Spider-Man in his own animated show in the 90s!

Clarence Newman

The first film made it clear that Tim Burton didn't see Batman (or Keaton) as the undisputed star. In that one, Batman had just 15 seconds more screen time than The Joker. Of course, The Joker was Jack Nicholson, which is why his name is billed first in the credits. Sometimes it can work really well. In The Good, The Bad & The Ugly, Eli Wallach (Tuco) has way more screen time than Clint. Good for the film, because Tuco was more interesting, which left Clint free to be the brooding 'star'. Pacino has way more screen time than Brando in The Godfather. The undoubted 'star' (ie the reason people flocked to the film) of Silence of the Lambs was Anthony Hopkins as Lecter, but he was only on-screen for 16 minutes. And Steve McQueen nearly quit The Great Escape because James Garner was getting more screen time than him. His agent had to fly over and pointedly explain that while Garner had more 'time', McQueen's part was far more memorable and important to the film. I'm sure there are many other examples.

Night King01

I think this is more of a case of Tim Burton clearly not being a fan of batman at all. Clearly he heard penguin and legitimately thought it was a penguin man and catwoman actually has nine lives. he had a preference on one aspect over another. Its a batman movie without much batman and it shows.

Clay F

+1 for Zoë Kravitz in The Batman (2022). The 1966 Penguin for nostalgia. I thought the Danny Devito Penguin is a good take (and good acting). I am no Batman expert or Batman connoisseur. I was never into DC comics. I have never read any comic book, except maybe a page or two. I had never even heard of Batman: The Animated Series or Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (1993). I turned 30 in 1993 and didn’t really watched cartoons, and thus don’t remember the release of that animated Batman. In the 90s, the only cartoons I watched were a few episodes of The Ren & Stimpy Show, King of the Hill, and Beavis and Butt-Head – I liked those 3. I did find aspects I like about the movie when I did a first watch along with Cassie’s reaction. I like the look of the animation (super cool) and somewhat 1940s feel with some darkness. There is dialogue I like. I like the score. But overall, I did not like this movie as much as The Dark Knight trilogy – not even close. Plus, for me, Kevin Conroy is not the best Batman as some (not you) have suggested. Maybe the best Batman voice. For me, takes more than a voice to be the best Batman.

Mojo One Thousand

I'm still on side of the Batman '66 movie getting a watch, as it does provide the perspective of where the campiness came from and is somewhat maintained in these movies but while shifting it into a darker more serious space, mainly through Burton-ism. Some of that gets reverted in the next couple due to the backlash from McDonalds, as the movie is a lot more grown-up, so the Happy Meal toys caused some problems. Also, a lot of the villain portrayals from the '90s movies have a lot of grounding in the '60s Adam West version, although Tim Burton in this movie particularly did take the villain names a bit too literal, when compared with the comics, but that is more about his sensibilities, as he outcasts or misfits are a bit of a theme for him. Cassie wanted more "Batman/Bruce Wayne", my understanding is that this movie has the least amount of screen time for him than any other. But I did feel warmed that Cassie came around a bit to Keaton's version of the character. Danny DeVito and Michelle Pfeiffer are great in this. I think this movie (and possibly also '89) could be the poster child(ren) for the conumdrum that Nolan and Bale did discuss while developing that version... "Batman's" villains are more interesting than "Batman" himself." I also love the choice of not having someone just be Christopher Walken's son, but have someone do an impersonation of him as his son... "Chip Schrek" was played by Andrew Bryniarski, and the first thing I saw him in was "Hudson Hawk", so I get to mention that again. "Stupid corndog!" was the phrase I think you were looking for that you really enjoyed Cassie. And, It has been a while since I have seen this, and it far more ribald than I remembered, and also a reason fo the backlash, as most people of the time equated the character to comic books or the '60s version. "Unlimited poontang" is a phrase that had completely forgotten was in this movie... hahaha, that coupled with the casual lechery of "Penguin".

Just Plain Bob

Heath Ledger played the Joker. Penguin never made an appearance in the Nolan films.

Eric

Style is definitely one way to describe the Joel Schumacher Batman movies. Hahaha. Seriously though, I think Joel Schumacher gets a lot of flak for those movies but forget it was the studio that hated what Tim Burton did with Batman. They wanted them to be kids and young teens movies that they could market with toys and McDonald's happy meals. They weren't too pleaed about this movie where a woman gets thrown out a window, another woman gets thrown off a roof, the Penguin tries to murder kids by drowning them in the sewers and all the other dark stuff.

Milton Reduxed

At the very least let Batman Forever compete in a sequels poll, not just get a watch because it's the next one

Milton Reduxed

Is Batman '89 anti-gentile because Joker has a regular nose and Scottish name?

Clay F

I think Batman Forever should compete in a poll with original movies included. Sequels polls should be banned. Instead, let sequels stand on their merits -- on their quality -- on their enterainment value -- against original movies. Below is an example poll including Batman Forever and selections from Top 50 at popcornrequests. HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE POLL (12 choices) Batman Forever (1995) The Blues Brothers (1980) Children of Men (2006) Lost in Translation (2003) Reservoir Dogs (1992) Wind River (2017) Sin City (2005) American Graffiti (1973) Jackie Brown (1997) Scott Pilgrim vs. the World (2010) 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988)

Shehab Dawoud

That was about what we could’ve hoped for and expected, maybe even a bit better. I thought that the Penguin’s horniness would’ve been too much for you but you handled it well. I gotta say, that’s my favorite thing about the film. He is absolutely hilarious. I’m okay with a Batman Forever reaction. I thought Kilmer did a decent job even if he’s a bit too stoic. But you definitely don’t need to watch the movie that almost killed the Batman franchise, Batman & Robin, with George Clooney and his bat nipples😬 Batman does very much feel like a supporting character. That does happen very often in Batman films where the screen time is at least distributed very evenly between Bats and the villains. Tbf, Batman does have the most fascinating villains.

Milton Reduxed

Batman Forever and Batman & Robin are terrible. Check them out off-channel if you're curious but there's many better films that could be scheduled on PiB instead At most let them compete in a sequels poll because there are much better sequels you could be watching also

Clay F

Oh yeah, thanks Bob. I was confused staying up all night. I editing my reply.

TheSingulatarian

Don't make Cassie watch "Scarface" Pacino says the F word about a billion times in that movie. Cassie has a tendency to repeat what characters say on screen. It could be a disaster.

Clay F

You have more than adequately made amends for the Batman 89 reaction, which I didn't think you really needed to, but you gave Batman Returns a chance (it did win a poll) and a good reaction -- you had the right expectations and were open minded. Thus, you could stop here, and no Batman Forever (1995). Yet, you are curious about Batman Forever (1995) as being not Tim Burton. If that curiosity builds to strong desire, then go ahead brace yourself and react to Batman Forever (1995). But please at least require the horrible Batman & Robin (1997) to win a poll. Of course, you should do what you want obviously, which is perfectly fine -- and if you want Batman & Robin (1997) ... Yet, below is an example poll including Batman & Robin (1997) and selections from Top 50 at popcornrequests. If Batman & Robin (1997) wins a poll against Top 1-50 movies (e.g., randomly selected), then react to it. HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE POLL (12 choices) Batman & Robin (1997) The Blues Brothers (1980) Children of Men (2006) Lost in Translation (2003) Reservoir Dogs (1992) Wind River (2017) Sin City (2005) American Graffiti (1973) Jackie Brown (1997) Scott Pilgrim vs. the World (2010) 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988) If you did react to Batman & Robin (1997), you could react to Batman & Robin (1997) in live stream where patrons in chat comment how bad movie is and make fun of it. I have participated in events like that for "worst" movies [e.g., The Room (2003)].

Clay F

No reason to have a sequels poll -- that is a dangerous game -- so many bad sequels. Instead, do poll including Batman Forever (1995) and selections from Top 50 at popcornrequests. See Example below. If Batman Forever (1995) wins a poll against Top 1-50 movies, then she should react to it. HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE POLL (12 choices) Batman Forever (1995) The Blues Brothers (1980) Children of Men (2006) Lost in Translation (2003) Reservoir Dogs (1992) Wind River (2017) Sin City (2005) American Graffiti (1973) Jackie Brown (1997) Scott Pilgrim vs. the World (2010) 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988)

Clarence Newman

Clay. I think your poll suggestion may be a little unfair to Batman and Robin. I suspect it may not win. Plus, we all know Cassie by now. From the way she's been talking recently, she's locked into all of them, regardless of their heinosity.

Clay F

The poll is not unfair to Batman & Robin -- let the movie stand on its own -- and the fact it probably wouldn't win is the point. Further, I don't get the sense she is locked into all them. Instead, from the way she's been talking recently, she wanted to give Batman Returns a chance (which she now has) and maybe curious of remaining 2 w/no decision or guarantees. Uncertain and importantly ALL comments/indications in context of making amends for the 89 reaction in being open minded w/Batman Returns, and thus stroking hurt 89 fans. To me, Batman Returns really only one came close to guarantee, which it wasn't. She included it in poll. When Batman Returns DVD fell out of the package, she didn't say I've already decided to react to this one. Based on what she indicated recently, she wanted to be fair to Batman after Batman 89 reaction. The bottom line is: If she feels she has made amends with this current reaction, she can stop the madness now. Yet, she did say was curious about the next one in that it's not Tim Burton. Clarence you may be right. It may be a done deal: IMDb 7.1, RT 82%, RT Audience 73% -- Returns (1992) (glad behind us) IMDb 5.4, RT 39%, RT Audience 33% -- Forever (1995) (ouch) IMDb 3.8, RT 11%, RT Audience 16% -- Batman & Robin (1997) (heinous)

Clarence Newman

There are still a few good sequels: A Shot In The Dark (1964) etc - Peter Sellers fully off-leash as Clouseau. Color of Money (1986) - Newman and Tom Cruise in great form, but she has to see The Hustler first. Rambo: First Blood Part 2 (1985) - I know some people dismiss it as a mindless shoot-em-up, but it's also a massively iconic 80s Action movie that should not be forgotten. The Godfather 3 (1990) - Not as bad as people say, and with a towering performance from Pacino. Hannibal (2001) etc - A smidgeon grisly for Cassie (she'll find it hard to look at Gary Oldman), but still a great film. There are others (Bad Boys 2 comes to mind), but she needs to watch the original first.

Clay F

I think she really genuinely wanted to give Batman Returns a chance and was hoping she might like it better with the right expectation and an open mind. But seem to me she didn't really like it -- you could tell during the entire reaction. Sure, she crafted what she could say positive, but can't escape that she said: "I still don't know that this style is my favorite type of movie."

Clarence Newman

To be fair, I have never seen her struggle to do an intro or outro more than in this one (which is all I've watched so far - waiting for the YT edit). I find it easy to believe she was going out of her way not to offend anyone.

MikeLL

"Love brokers!" Yes, Night Shift, directed by Ron Howard, is a very good movie!

Milton Reduxed

@ There are so many bad movies generally, far more bad than good, but there are some worthy sequels like Nightmare on Elm Street 3 or Jaws II We're currently getting ape movie after ape movie, we got Crocodile Dundee II, at least it would be a tad more varied and democratic to let a potential sequel compete in a poll I do shake my head at the number of people saying 'for completion's sake just watch the rest' 🤦‍♂️

Larry Darrell

+1 for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990)

MikeLL

I have to agree on watching Batman Returns. I think Cassie should see it, it has Val Kilmer who Cassie loves, so I think that will seal the deal. Batman and Robin deserves more thought. I agree with Clay F that that one should win a poll to be watched. But Cassie might have already made the decision, which is hers, of course. I don't know about this movie matching the depths of the Nolan movies, but that party scene you described so well is a great scene in this movie. Nolan's the The Dark Knight transcends the superhero genre and is an excellent crime movie in its own right. I also agree with you that Cassie was captivated by Michelle Phieffer's performance.

MikeLL

Clay F, I agree with you that Batman and Robin should win a poll. I think Batman Forever WILL be watched, as it should be, just because it has Val Kilmer. But as for Cassie not liking this movie, that is where I have to disagree with you. She was totally captivated and into the chemistry between Keaton and Phieffer, and she had that "I'm melting because of this" look on her face. She certainly enjoyed that part of the movie, I think that aspect of the movie won her over.

Clay F

Clarence -- I thought the same. She has been doing more of that -- she is evolving -- which is smart. She remains genuine and honestly looks for positive aspects to comment. Here, she falls outside of the middle-aged men demographic having hardcore nostalgia. She wasn't a pre-teen in 1989 exposed to the fanfare of one of the first blockbusters (Batman 89) -- being taken by her dad or mom to theater in 1989 to see it -- such a special experience. Younger generation (18-35) now less likely to have that 89 nostalgia. Instead their nostalgia is with the more serious Dark Knight trilogy . My son (age 25) = infatuated w/The Dark Knight trilogy. Quite the opposite, Batman 89 and Batman Returns mean nothing to him, and he's a big time movie guy. There are no neat categories or uniformity within a given demographic, but old people (65+) also less likely to have that nostalgia for 89 or Returns. I am approaching that age. I was 29 when Returns was released. I remember the fanfare of Batman 89 and Batman Returns. While I was a Keaton fan, I wasn't into that type of movie. No nostalgia accrued for me. My nostalgia was w/Adam West Batman, and of course, now I think the Dark Knight trilogy and The Batman (2022) are awesome.

Larry Darrell

You’re supposed to laugh WITH the film, NOT AT the film.

Larry Darrell

Which one did it better/worse? The sidelining of Michael Keaton in his Batman sequel? Or The sidelining of Henry Cavill in his Superman sequel?

Clay F

Mike -- you make good points. I think Catwoman (who she thought unhinged) was mixed for her, but agree that she did seem to like that chemistry w/Keaton once she started to believe it. But her expressions throughout the movie seemed that of dislike to me. Her most telling comment: "I still don't know that this style is my favorite type of movie." To me, that was her nice way of saying she doesn't like that type movie. She uses the phrase "not my favorite" now instead of the word "dislike." She mocked the movie in comparing an aspect to Whoville. Like many of us, she wasn't into the unfocused story and little character depth. She didn't like the absence of Batman. She didn't like the way the movie did w/animals: "I really did not like was the animals ... that took me out of it because seemed too far-fetched." Yet, the whole movie is far-fetched. That is the type of movie it is. That is what fans like about it. That and the hardcore nostalgia fans (middle-aged men) have from watching the movie as a kid. She is not a middle-aged male. The younger generation (18-35) less likely to have nostalgia for 89/Returns -- instead, they have nostalgia for Dark Knight trilogy.

Joe J

Whatever movie Cassie wants to watch, I have a strong feeling she will just watch it. I would rather spend some energy trying to convince her to watch a particular movie than not to watch a particular movie. As for Batman & Robin, will she put it to a vote of her patrons, yay or nay? I don't see that happening. Batman & Robin could do well for her on YT. She may like it, she may not, doesn't matter either way. It's just a movie, movie, movie.

Clay F

For that coveted reaction slot, she could do the following poll (2 choices) and let patrons decide: Yes -- react to Batman & Robin (1997) No -- don't react to Batman & Robin (1997) Batman & Robin (1997) might could do well in views if the reaction done as a "worst" movie reaction -- pointing out how bad the movie and making fun of it. Joe -- are there movies in the Top 50 at popcornrequests you would rather see a reaction than Batman & Robin (1997)? Doesn't take much effort to say so. I do appreciate promoting movies one desires instead of attacking or denigrating movies one does not desire. Yet, here, the only 2 movies on the table are 2 bad sequels (Batman Forever and Batman & Robin). I think she does Batman Forever out of curiosity -- plus, it has Val Kilmer.

Patrick

Batman (1989) was made and marketed for kids really. I was 12 that summer, and the hype and promotion was unlike anything done for a movie that I can remember. There were McDonald's Batman commercials on every television break for an entire year it seems lol 😆

Clarence Newman

Safe to say, Cassie will never do that again. To quote from her Howard The Duck reaction, “Guys, I’m really trying!!!!”

Joe J

Will these ape movies never end, Lol? I would rather watch some sequels that these long franchises. Cassie watched Star Trek, X-Men, and now POTA. Keep in mind, patrons were never asked to vote on any of these. We had zero input.

Cole Jennett

You may be right that there were no polls, but patrons had plenty of input on getting her to watch every one of those franchises. Just like they had plenty of input on getting her to possibly watch Game of Thrones next.

Clay F

There was a YT live poll for X-Men franchise vs POTA franchise, that was the only 2 candidates (she apparently chose those 2 candidates) and because the poll results were fairly close (55%-45%), she reacted to both. I say stay away from franchises. Too many bad or mediocre sequels in franchises. For instance, Rocky 4 and especially Rocky 5 = bad -- I have not watched those reactions. Lethal Weapon 3 and Lethal Weapon 4 = mediocre -- I have not watched those reactions. She could do the following poll (2 choices) and let patrons decide: Yes -- react to Batman Returns (1995) No -- don't react to Batman Returns (1995) I think "No" would win. But I could be surprised -- middle-aged male patrons are a big voting block.

Clay F

I was 26 and remember all that.

Milton Reduxed

@ Cole, tell me about it. On Addie Counts channel there are a handful of people in the comments going: Watch Thunderbolts, watch ironheart, watch the Transformers series...I know some people don't like the movies I suggest either but these voices are not necessarily representative and at the very least let them be properly polled before diving in

Keith Jacobsen

(Trivia from IMDB) The production wanted to use King Penguins, but the only tame ones in captivity were at a bird sanctuary in the Cotswolds, deep in the English countryside. So the birds were flown over to the States in the refrigerated hold of a plane. They were given their own refrigerated trailer and swimming pool with half a ton of fresh ice every day, and had fresh fish delivered daily straight from the docks. Even though the temperature outside frequently topped one hundred degrees, the entire set was refrigerated down to thirty-five degrees. The birds also had an around-the-clock bodyguard. The birds clearly enjoyed the experience as, following their stint in Hollywood, most of them had mated and produced eggs, the sure sign of a contented penguin.

Milton Reduxed

@ MikeLL, then do a Val Kilmer poll and put Batman Forever on it. There are other Val Kilmer movies and other (better) movies

Wesley

No. Oswald Cobblepot in this film is a direct reference to The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, the look, the shot composition, all of it. This whole movie is Burton referencing German Expressionist films (like Nosferatu, Metropolis, Faust) This is a Gothic Batman movie, and all the references are here. Perhaps the Weimar influences run so deep that such biases come to mind, but the influences are aesthetics alone. As someone who is keenly attuned to antisemitism of late, trust me, this is fine.

Carol_White

Milton: No, because those aren't ethnic stereotypes used in an effort to oppress a people for a thousand years. But I doubt you're arguing in good faith, anyhow.

Larry Darrell

“Made amends… stroking hurt 89 Fans… crafted what she could say positive” Do you think Cassie was not being 100% honest, in her reaction?

Grad

"Was there any scene in the Nolan trilogy that could compare to this scene? That has this kind of depth?" Nothing comes to mind.

Stick Figure Studios

Bat-mania was huge that summer. The bat symbol was everywhere.

Clay F

I think Cassie was genuine --- 100% honest. For instance, I believe she completely honest in coming up with positive comments. She carved out aspects of the movie she found positive. Also, she has grown as a reactor since the 89 reaction -- I think wanted to make amends in having an accurate expectation and an open mind -- she cares about the hurt 89 fans and wanted to find enjoyment herself -- give early 90s Batman a chance.

Steve Holton

Probably because Big Fish was a departure from Tim Burton's gothic visual style. Easy to forget Big Fish is from Burton but still cherish that great film.

Steve Holton

I liked Frank Miller's Batman: Year One as a good profile of a tormented, driven vigilante. But as many have pointed out Batman can be many things and has his roots in the more joyful Zorro.

McShades

After Superman 3 & 4 were complete disasters in the theaters, Batman 1989 was a huge step up. It kept the comic book feel with the story and production. Of Couse when Nolan's Batman Trilogy came out with a more realistic story, it showed you could make big money with comic book movies and thus started the MCU.

K, Zachary

We find it funny that when I sent her movies, she said they were just too many to pick from. To do a drawing. Then later after we decided not to send her anything more. Then she picks again. Basically dooming the 8-10 movies I sent her. Hmmm🧐🤔 Sharon Tate movies, The Doors, Manchester By The Sea, The Reader, Detroit, Country Strong, Oliver! Risen (2017) Among others I can't remember. But enough about my self pity. She receives tons of movies. She can't watch them all. Right? Right This is one of the reasons why we don't do live events, we go to the movies, eat sushi have a date night instead. Creating are own beautiful night. The new Batman will have a new Darker Penguin played by Colin Farrell which we call The Tony Soprano Penguin in it. I remember when this came out in the theaters. I was in middle school. It was all the rave Batman Forever is next in this series.

Uncle Phoenix

Michael Keaton and Gary OldHam were both very good in the new RoboCop.

Rick Williams

Curiosity killed the cat, Cassie. Michelle Pfeiffer is very good. She was also good in Scarface, the Fabulous Baker Boys, Tequila Sunrise, One Fine Day, just to name a few.

Larry Darrell

Do you think your OPINIONS on Batman Forever (1995) and Batman & Robin (1997) are giving Cassie an Open Mind or a Closed Mind, for when she decides to watch them? Are your OPINIONS on the films giving Cassie an “accurate expectation” or the expectation that only people who dislike or hate the film want her to have? Are your OPINIONS creating a Bias against the films in her mind? Are your OPINIONS really giving “90s Batman a chance,” or are they killing any chance of Cassie finding something fun or interesting in the them? Since Cassie has grown so much as a Reactor since her first 89 reaction, then why not let her REACT to a film without having “Danger, Beware, Toxic” stickers all over it. Let her decide for herself if these films are really bad or not. Some of us are here for Cassie’s First Impression of a film, without her knowing that that film has been kicked around like a damn rag doll for 30 years. Please let her watch these films with a Clean and Fresh and Completely Open Mind… just the way we did when the film came out. Maybe she will have a different opinion. That’s what we’re here to find out.

Rick Williams

Cassie does love romance. She liked that part of the movie.

Daniel Doble

The people that surround a villain... Cohorts.

TheSingulatarian

Game of Thrones lots of main characters she will fall in love with get killed off before the end of the show. No plot amour there. It would be "The Last of Us" on steroids. It is also full of sex and nudity. So I would say no.

Chris Thom

Sometimes called Flying Monkeys in psychology. Also 'henchmen' in movies and comics and action.

Chris Thom

It's funny the way she perks right up during those scenes. lol

Chris Thom

Thanks I was always curious about that. Couldn't tell in a lot of shots which ones were real.

OddThomas

"Things are getting weird" lol, pretty much sums up the response to it in '92. It certainly made an impression on 11 yr old me. Another good Michelle Pfeiffer movie: White Oleander

Canadianant

I remember thinking this one was strange back in 1992 as it was a dark turn from 89 but I was captivated by Catwoman. Following in the footsteps of of 1966s Julie newmar and Lee Meriwether., Michelle Pfeiffer was stunning in this and really stole the show for me. Truly magnetic. That sensuality was there even in the 66 episodes. This was something completely missing in the latest the Batman movie. The Batman returns Catwoman costume is still a Halloween favorite for many ladies looking to stand out. As to Catwoman's bipolar nature, much like many house cats who seem to switch from loving you to scratching you in an instance, she had disparate motivations. I actually can appreciate Danny DeVito 's penguin more now than I did at the time. His performance was great. As for the story itself there wasn't really much there and as many others have said Keaton's Batman was essentially pushed as a supporting character. Overall I don't think either of these Burton Batman's really hold up but it's difficult to explain how big a part of Pop culture they were at the time especially the 89 Batman. Batman and the bat symbol were everywhere that summer. Moving on to Nolan's movies, they aren't perfect either but are so much more serious in tone which was almost shocking at the time. As for watching the next two the Kilmer Batman and the Clooney Batman neither of which are great movies but almost should be watched just for the sake of understanding the pop culture conversation around them. If you are going to do a Batman run all summer long it wouldn't hurt to do a couple of greatest hits of the animated series. Heart of ice, Joker's favor, see the original Harley Quinn. At their short length you could whip off 2-3 in one reaction. Just a thought.

Milton Reduxed

Still got 2 more damn apes movies before we're done

Chris Thom

White Oleander is very good. One of Thomas Newman's best scores as well.

Chris Thom

They're probably all worth watching just because of their place in movie history. They were all big hits and expensive to make, with a lot of moving pieces. Batman and Robin I really didn't like much, but it's also a case study on what can happen when a studio throws a TON of money at something but can't quite decide who the audience is supposed to be. Or when they don't invest in the writing. I was 13 when it came out. Batman Forever is a lot of fun. Agree about the party scene. Very hypnotic and pleasing to watch.

Larry Darrell

One man’s garbage is another man’s treasure. How ‘bout we just leave some films on Cassie’s doorstep wrapped all neat and pretty, and then let her decide which ones go in the trash. This is her house by the way. I said neat and pretty, because positivity trumps negativity every time. Negativity tends to lead to more negativity.

Clarence Newman

I'm so impressionable. I just read Larry's post and thought "Oh yeah. That's a point." Then I read Flag's post and thought "Oh crap. That's a point too." I myself have no point, beyond the fact that Cassie has proved us wrong before with stuff we don't think she'll like, and the farther she gets into a good franchise, the wronger we tend to get. I refer you to Star Trek: Nemesis and Rocky 5.

Clarence Newman

Yep, completionism for the sake of it could bury a channel like this. There's just too many crap sequels out there, often made by people who had nothing to do with the original. To illustrate, many folks might know me as a huge Crocodile Dundee fan. There are only 3 movies in the franchise, but even I want her to stop at 2.

Yaisu

cassie needs to do more danny devito movies.

Cole Jennett

As long as she’s enjoying them she’s going to watch them. I think the channel is resilient enough to survive a couple bad planet of the apes or Batman movies

Cody Nelson

I’m glad to see you reacting to this. Though I have no idea what you’ll think of the next movie “Batman forever“ but I really love that one. As to this one, it’s interesting how you point out that Batman‘s not in it as much since that is one of the common criticisms of this movie. I kind of agree with that, but it’s not enough to make me dislike this movie. I do like how this is the most Tim Burton of all the Batman movies. Although Batman returns did do well at the box office, it did underperform and got somewhat mixed reviews. This led the studio to take the movies in more lighthearted direction going forward.

Rick Williams

Yes. That is all she needs. Give her a little romance and she is happy.

The Star Treker (aka Michael)

I was never really into Adam West's Batman. It always felt way too corny, cheesy, and over-the-top campy for me. I get why people love it, and I totally respect what he did—he made Batman a household name and a pop culture icon. But it just wasn't my vibe. I didn't hate the "na na na Batman" theme song, but it never felt like the real Batman to me. The real Batman theme? That's Danny Elfman's score and Shirley Walker's epic, emotional music from Batman: The Animated Series. Those gave Batman the mythic weight and dark edge that defines him for me—just like John Williams did for Superman. I've always been drawn to the darker, more serious side of Batman-the mythic, the drive, the shadows. Michael Keaton nailed that vibe, and Kevin Conroy brought out the heart and humanity behind the mask. Those two are the reason I became a Batman fan, even though I only read a handful of comics growing up. I came up in the late 80s and 90s, right when Batman (1989), Batman Returns, Batman: The Animated Series, X-Men, Spider-Man, the 90s Flash, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Power Rangers, and Lois & Clark were all hitting TV. Saturday mornings were everything. Superhero cartoons were my world, and honestly, they still are. So yeah, when people say Kevin Conroy isn't the best Batman. It feels unfair and kind of dismissive. The man literally voiced Batman for 30 years. Batman: The Animated Series (even his guest appearances as Batman in Superman: The Animated Series), Batman Beyond, Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, the Batman Arkham games, and many of the DC animated movies—and even gave us a rare live-action Bruce Wayne in Arrowverse's 'Crisis on Infinite Earths'. That moment hit hard. He defined Batman for generations. No other Batman actor has come close to doing what he did for that long, with that level of consistency and heart, that kind of legacy. And again, dismissing that feels disrespectful, honestly. Kevin was Batman. No one captured the pain, the hope, the strength, the humanity of Bruce Wayne the way he did. His passing broke my heart. I was lucky enough to meet him at a con once—genuinely kind, humble, just a great guy. That moment will stay with me forever. Rest in peace, Kevin. You were a huge part of my childhood, and your legacy is forever. You are Batman.

Larry Darrell

It’s fine to not recommend a film. It’s ok to say you’re not a fan of a film, and that you didn’t enjoy it. But to go on a crusade of negativity against a film is too much. Because eventually Cassie may watch the film, and now the film already has extra strikes against it. She’ll be thinking, “Why is this film so bad? Why is this film considered the worst film ever made?” Any odd or weird thing in the film will only add more cement to what she only thinks she knows about the film. Instead of just thinking, “I haven’t heard many great things about this film. I wonder if it’s good or not.” Keeping an aura around a film closer to the mid range of possibly good or possibly bad, has a better chance of making a film a positive memorable experience, whether the film was good or bad. Especially for a film that Cassie said she wants to watch. That is what she said just before the start of the reaction. She wants to watch them. So we should let her find out how they are, on her own, without our help.

YodatheHobbit

To answer one of your first questions, the reason she blew that store up was just because it was Max's company's. I guess it was her first step in revenge against him. Not part of the circus attacks in league with Penguin, yet. Comic Books about superheroes typically involve a destroy the world plot and of course on that world, there are usually innocents and children who are also at risk of being destroyed. Maybe them being targeted specifically is a bit scarier for you. For me villains putting kids lives at risk has always been an element of comic book movies and shows. I love the supernatural concept of Catwoman having literally 9 lives, even though I don't know if in the script it's supposed to be literal, or just her character making it up on the spot for something fun to say about how she's still alive. Either way, it's a fun idea. Batman and Catwoman remind me of two traditional type people who are actually closet goths who have been hurt by this cruel world and neither knows that the other also is. It's what they hide. That kind of perfect for eachotherness make me always want them together. It's too bad more recent DC movies didn't go as well as some hoped(I actually haven't seen them yet), because I was kind of hoping Michael Keaton and Michelle Phifer would reunite in a future film. Honestly I think I see a lot of Catwoman in myself, especially when I was a kid, which is why I think she's just so cool. Her confidence as Catwoman, even to a little boy, is inspiring. She wishes for a fantasy life, feeling dejected from how her world treated her, but not enough to be a monster who wants to harm people, she just enjoys having a screw a little loose to make life interesting and is tired of all the BS. The hated of so many attempts to achieve happiness always failing you in life is what can make you just want to embrace the literal darkness and want to literally paint everything black. It can be hard to go back to happiness and warm things after feeling betrayed by it, so I can understand her loving the idea of living with Bruce but being unable to live with herself. Am I the only one who saw the pink room and "HELLO THERE/HELL HERE" in the movie and then did a double take at Cassie's pink room and "Popcorn In Bed" neon sign? I almost wanted Cassie to break a couple of letters to make it say something. /joke "Pop Ned"? "PC RED"? If only there were two "P"'s in Popcorn you could turn one of them upside down to make it say "Pop d ED" lol. .........."Corn Ed"? "Corned"? I dunno... no real cool or scary options unfortunately. 🤣

Stephen Dias

Yes, "henchmen" was the word I was thinking of.

Stephen Dias

Yeah, "Batman ('89)" is still my favorite of the Burton/Schumacher movies, although this one is better than I remembered. Batman and Catwoman frequently have had a flirtatious relationship across media and almost got married in the comics. I totally wanted more Keaton; this movie was almost entirely about Penguin (as interpreted by Tim Burton).

James M

I don't think you should approach these as deadly serious. That is you should laugh at the funny things in it. They are funny. But the film wasn't made as a parody of the later films (obviously) it wasn't even made as a parody of the comic books. It was made with that special Tim Burton thing where the world isn't real. He's like a fairytale movie maker but from when fairytales regularly had unhappy endings.

Danny Steele

I grew up watching the old 1960’s series and the animated series. I have always liked Julie Newmar’s Catwoman. Catwoman is an extremely complicated character, she has been depicted as more of an antihero, she is a thief but she really does kill people. She always has a selfish reason for her actions especially if they are good, she never helps out of the goodness of her heart. Her relationship to Batman is complicated, however they often end up together, even have children in the old comics.

JPDotCom23

I love these movies, especially Batman (1989), perhaps the best summer for movies, and I was apart of it. Keaton still the best Batman. Would've been interesting to see Annette Bening as Cat woman.

Larry Darrell

You’re supposed to laugh with the film, not at the film. Like right in the beginning, with the baby in the box, snatching the cat between the bars. Yes, you’re supposed to laugh at that. That sets the Tone right there for the rest of the film.

The Star Treker (aka Michael)

That said, I loved Adam West's guest role as the Gray Ghost in Batman: The Animated Series. That episode hit differently—it was respectful, heartfelt, and felt like the show paying tribute to the man who helped bring Batman into the mainstream. It was genuinely special. And in a way, his version of Batman kind of tied into the bigger DC multiverse. Seeing a glimpse of that old-school Gotham, with Burt Ward's Robin too, pop up during Crisis on Infinite Earths in the Arrowverse—that was awesome. Short but powerful. A real "full circle" kind of moment. While this isn't the official crossover but it sill pretty close to it which I actually love more than the official one we got, connecting everything—Crisis on Infinite Earths - Red Skies Across The Multiverse | Fan Edit: https://youtu.be/e6v3TGn03FA?

The Star Treker (aka Michael)

And then here was Kevin Conroy's rare live-action Bruce Wayne in the Arrowverse's 'Crisis on Infinite Earths'. Man… that moment hit hard. Hearing that voice come out of a flesh-and-blood Bruce—it was surreal, powerful, and honestly kind of haunting. It wasn’t the version of Bruce we were used to, but it was Kevin Conroy, and that alone made it unforgettable. https://youtu.be/Y8uTeCpBXTw And of course, there's Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths, Part 3—his and Mark Hamill's final time as Batman and the Joker together. Their real last performance. It came out after Kevin passed, which just makes it hit even harder. The final goodbye. This just came out last year. https://youtu.be/HXwasqGBBNA

Night King01

BVS is much worse. Not only is it just a bad movie in general but they tried to shove everything into that movie all at once. We got doomsday who is a gimmick character before braniac. And yeah Batman essentially being the main character didnt help. Batman returns at least makes up for it with Danny Devitos amazing performance and Michelle Pfeiffers catwoman.

Johnny Bullis

Great reaction ms Cass... so much to say about this.. Michelle Pfeiffer was supposed to be Vicky Vale in the 1st one but because her and Michael Keaton just broke up he wasnt on board.. but by the time they made this one, enough time had passed and they were both over it.. but the coolest movie trivia about this film is that Penguins parents were played by Pee Wee Herman and the woman who played Simone in Pee Wee's Big Adventure.. I always thought that was cool. If you wanna know the whole story about all Batman films to date, check out Icons Unearthed on Amazon Prime they have a docu series on the history of Batman on film.. its awesome and you can learn so much and why they had to switch Batman actors and director after this one came out.. its quite interesting. Oh and the word you were looking for was henchmen.. :D

Clay F

+1 for The Reader

Clay F

Yeah, Adam West Batman is campy.

Clay F

She has already decided to react to GoT. I am sure she was advised as to the content. She emphasized that she has always wanted to watch GoT.

Clay F

Cassie should know that the consensus is Batman & Robin (1997) is a horrible movie.

Larry Darrell

Why should she again? Why does it matter?

Stick Figure Studios

I think she liked the movie. She may not have loved it, but she definitely didn't hate it like she did the first one.

Clay F

I’ve said all I am going to say under this Batman Returns reaction about Batman Forever and Batman & Robin. She tolerated Batman Returns and genuinely formulated positive aspects to comment. I saw grimaces, bewilderment, expressions of disinterest, and an effort to be receptive — but that’s my interpretation — I didn’t read her mind. She had a couple of specific negative comments in the outro. In general as to the type of movie, she said “I still don't know that this style is my favorite type of movie."

Chris Thom

Didn't know they dated. That's interesting. They did seem to have a degree of natural chemistry. And I'd heard before that Pee Wee Herman was in the movie somewhere and honestly couldn't spot it out. Watching this yesterday I knew which character he was and I still couldn't see it. lol

Chris Thom

The next, Batman Forever, was directed by Joel Schumacher, who did The Lost Boys, Flatliners, The Client, Phantom of the Opera, Phone Booth, etc. His style is indeed a bit different, but essentially he takes the Tim Burton format and runs with it...putting a slightly different spin on it, but not deviating that much from it. All in all they very much feel like a continuation of these. Which makes sense because Burton is still an executive producer. The Schumacher films are more colorful, with more kinetic action, and some added CGI (it was 1995 and the tech was really taking off). Also he's into dudes, so there's some added homoeroticism. Remember the gratuitous shirtless, greased up saxophone scene in Lost Boys? Lol.

Chris Thom

I think marketing-wise it was the biggest thing since Star Wars.

Chris Thom

I am kind of glad they started out as outlandish and creative as they did. They're like a comic book dark fairy tale and it's fun that movies like that exist. More realism is cool too. Kind of neat that there are very different takes on the same franchise. Keeps it fresh.

Chris Thom

Being 7 when it came out, I remember being confused if the movie was more for me, or my parents. I think it freaked me out a bit and I left them alone in the room to finish it. Appreciated it more as I got older.

Clarence Newman

Phone Booth, Chris. There's an unusual little gem that never gets mentioned.

Chris Thom

Yeah that was a good one. That was Schumacher getting back to basics with a fairly simple premise and setup. Reminds me of something Hitchcock may've done. And for the studio it was a sign that they could make a boatload of money on a smaller budget with good writing, solid acting, and a tense story.

Larry Darrell

I’m with you Stick. I think she overall liked the film. It wasn’t a favorite. She may not seek it out to watch it on her own again. But she had a good experience. She had a more enjoyable experience. The only part she really did not like was the animals, the cats and penguins. (Her words by the way, unless people think she is lying) I just don’t understand why some people are so dead set on trying to make Cassie hate these films. They’re just movies, but I like movies. I like it when other people like movies. That’s why I’m here. Being more on the positive to fair side of a film, when talking about it to someone who hasn’t seen it, can only increase the chance that that person will have a good and enjoyable experience. Starting that person in the negative makes it harder to reach positivity. I don’t get enjoyment out of hate watching films either. I know some people probably hope to see the return of an “89” reaction or a Howard the Duck reaction, but I don’t. That’s not why I’m here. Positivity trumps Negativity every time. Cassie said she wants to see ALL of the films. So let’s let her do it, without all the Bias… Please.

Clay F

That gratuitous shirtless, greased up saxophone scene was somewhat ridiculous. I no nostalgia for Lost Boys (first watch in 2023 w/Cassie's reaction) and thus not really a fan. The casting of Bill as a vampire seem kind of odd, but maybe not.

Chris Thom

Bill and Ted must've come after. If that came out first I would bet the studio wouldn't want him to take the role. But who knows.

Chris Thom

The tone is very unique IMO. Like a lot of Tim Burton movies. It's hard to know how to react to it. It's kind of all over the place. As a child it freaked me out pretty bad. Took a minute to warm up to it.

Gray

Not a fantastic movie but it's a bit of fun, Catwoman definitely carries this film for me. Can't really remember the ones after this but I think it's more ridiculous campyness. All I can think of are the Arnie lines lol.

Chris Thom

Let's kick some ice. Sigh.

John A

You have to remember at the time of Tim burtons Batman, all we had was the Campy Adam West Batman which was fun and great. Comics were getting darker for Batman, so when Burtons Batman came out, it was comic but also dark, which made us Batman fan love it. Now Nolan's Batman brought us Batman more dark and serious, which is what Batman became in the comics and was done well. When Tim Burton was moved out of Batman, it became more campy, which was not really what Batman fans wanted, since the comic was not campy at the time.

Doug Fisher

Clay that wasn't a gratuitous scene, that was Timmy Cappello who is a multi talented musician mainly known for playing Sax for Tina Turner. What you saw in that scene is his stage persona and they just added him, as is, to the film. He and Tina were very popular during 80's & 90's but they didn't come with an IMDB score so that probably explains why you didn't recognise him. "The Lost Boys" had a big cultural impact and had a huge transformative affect on the Vampire Genre. Whether that transformation was positive or negative is debatable. I watched it a number of times in the theater upon release. Plus it has an awesome Soundtrack.

Chris Thom

I have a ton of nostalgia for Batman Forever. Was just kind of the perfect movie at the perfect time for a kid. But I don't know if I can actually be objective about it.

Chris Thom

Did the comic book fans like these movies?

First Name Ella

So many thoughts: 1. It's hilarious I watched this so much as a kid. 2. Henchmen. 3. You're not wrong about Batman, I noticed he wasn't even seen until half an hour in, and barely in any scenes until an hour in. 4. Catwoman is fucked up and I don't blame her. "hello there" to "hell here" is a big sign of what's to come. 5. I think they should have either taken away Schreck or Penguin and focused more on Batman and Catwoman, because by FAR the best scene in the film is when Selina and Bruce realize who the other is. 6. You wanted the ending that The Dark Knight Rises gave us, and I don't blame you, cause DAMN- while I love me some Christian Bale, Michelle and Michael Keaton have soooooo much more chemistry than Christian and Anne ever had. 7. Have you seen Birdman yet? You should watch that before moving on to the Val Kilmer film IMO.

First Name Ella

Very mixed thoughts. Were happy they had mainstream comic book films, but it was well known Burton refused to even read a comic book in preparation.

First Name Ella

I had to look this up and you're right. It was Keaton who didn't like the casting. Then infamously Sean Young (of Blade Runner fame) was cast but broke her leg. She then tried to get the role of Catwoman by acting nuts essentially on the Joan Rivers show and chasing down Tim.

Chris Thom

Someone bellow in the comments said Keaton and Pfeiffer had dated and broke up and that's partly why she didn't get the Vicky Vale role. Agree that the party scene was great. Curious how Catwoman might've figured in to future Burton Batman films.

First Name Ella

Yeah I saw that too! Makes sense. Does anyone know why Keaton didn’t play in further Batman roles?

First Name Ella

I don’t blame her for this one. I’m not a big romance person, but that scene at the Christmas party? *fans self* as Souxie and the Banshees is playing

John A

From what I heard is that Burton was miss quoted on that by Kevin Smith. I heard he did carry, "The Killing Joke" comic with him and He was provided with key issues like Batman #1 and Detective Comics #251, now he did make some changes to villain's organs

Chris Thom

Supposedly he didn't want to continue on without Tim Burton directing.

Walter

Tim Burton's Batman is definitely its own thing. Not faithful to...anything, really. The Penguin and Catwoman in The Batman is far more comic accurate. But I grew up on these films so I have a soft spot for them. I think they aged poorly, but I still enjoy them. Keaton is very good in the role. I really appreciate the performances of Michelle Pfeiffer and Danny DeVito, but I hate Burton's take on the characters.

Walter

Young Michael Keaton - I recommend Mr. Mom and Night Shift.

MAV293 (MARK)

I started reading BatMan comics from the 40s, 50s, and 60s around 1969 when I was 5 years old and it continued on into adulthood. I was absorbed with the comic book BatMan and I liked the 60s BatMan series and movie just because it was BatMan but when I found out Tim Burton would be making a BatMan film I was elated!! I wanted the dark psychology of what makes Bruce Wayne The BatMan and he being the Yin to The Joker's Yang. The only real issues I have with either of the Burton films is the killing of the Villains........this should not happen in any BatMan film unless it is part of the storyline for that particular story from DC. So to answer your question, Yes!! as a comic book fan I loved the Burton films for giving the films the comic book look of the 40s and exploring the duality that is The BatMan. It is also because of the Burton films that we got my favorite iteration of The BatMan in the form of the BatMan: The Animated Series and DC animated films with the iconic voices of Kevin Conroy as The BatMan and the incomparable Mark Hamill as The Joker!! I don't like talking bad about a film or movie because there is a good chance somebody out there is a fan and I respect their view but the Schumacher films almost destroyed the BatMan franchise. I also loved the Nolan films because he brought BatMan into the modern day and made it very realistic in that with enough desire and enough money, someone really could become The BatMan!!!

Old As Dirt Bert

My view of this reaction is belated. Thanks for the "meow" at the end. That's always been the most memorable part of the movie to me and now you're Michelle's understudy. Now that you have familiar roles for Michelle Pfieffer and also for Jeff Goldblum, consider watching both of them together in the movie "Into The Night" from 1985. Jeff went on to do Silverado in the same year. It was directed by John Landis who also did The Blues Brothers, National Lampoon's Animal House, Three Amigos!, Coming to America, Trading Places and more.

Rick Rodriguez

" What other Burton movies did I like...'' You liked Big Fish, Cassie.

JPDotCom23

Since you have now seen 'Nosferatu', here's a little bit of trivia for you. Christopher Walken's character name is Max Schrek, which was Tim Burton's homage to the German actor Max Schrek, who played Nosferatu.

Paul T

Of all the Batman movies 🎬 I've watched 👀, have not seen the Christopher Nolan series and probably never will, I'm done with DC movies, this was the worst imo. While Danny played a good penguin, if was too over the top. Looked away most of the time he was on screen. Keaton was my favorite Batman of the ones I watched. Watched this with you just to see what your reaction would be and it was pretty much what I expected.