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Star Trek: TNG 2x08 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2024-05-11 17:00:07
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Ryan

It's a bit jarring to go back to this episode and realize, as Picard notes in the beginning, this was the introduction of so much about Klingon culture that's now just standard knowledge of the franchise. About the only thing that didn't stick was their lack of family bonds, with clan-based honor being a huge part of numerous future Klingon stories. It's a very impressive showing for Riker as he quickly figures out how to go along with so much, and in particular the live gagh would have been the part where I broke thanks to my OCD making me a very picky eater. Though it's unfortunate that the fans' first look at gagh was so much less impressive than future ones, due to having to be something that Jonathan Frakes could eat on-camera. They ended up going with pink fettuccini, because I sure wouldn't want to be the one to tell him he had to eat something gross after the ink pit debacle in the previous season. I was surprised you handled that so well; I guess they're just barely un-snakelike enough to not trigger anything. And of course this whole story has the advantage of a then-little known Brian Thompson, who'd soon become omnipresent across all of TV in the '90s whenever they needed a big scary guy, and makes Klag an instantly compelling presence who you can't look away from. The Mendon subplot really can't help coming up short in comparison, but it definitely has its own charm, starting with the very clever cost-cutting move of explaining the species' families look identical so they wouldn't have to make a new prosthetic (and they couldn't just bring Mordock back because he needs to be unfamiliar with Starfleet). I definitely needed to learn a few times that one mistake isn't the end of the world and identified very strongly with him. I also have to note this episode gave me an early lesson in how movies and TV could create their own language and customs that you'd come to expect even if you weren't conscious of it, with the lack of music going into the credits instantly feeling off to me in a way I couldn't specify, until I realized later that there's typically always that musical trill at the end of the show's teasers. I don't know why they didn't use it here, but that was a fun experience so I don't mind at all.

Thomas Corp

It’s good to be back sharing Next Gen with you, Jess. I am most pleased to start back with an episode where you had so much fun. The feeling is mutual. Two excellent plotlines. Talk about Riker’s first. As you observed, it is quite the highlight of the episode is Riker’s willingness to learn. You raise the excellent point how he knows going into the assignment that it calls for him to be strong and confident, and he was more than up to the task, as was Jonathan in his performance as Riker. I respect that. I would not have done as well with the Klingon cuisine, as I’m that horrendously picky of an eater as a result of my Asperger’s. I see Ryan’s commented on having such a difficulty, picky-eater-wise, which means I’m not alone on that one. Whereas by contrast, you and my brother are people who would have no problem as per your own description and knowing my brother my whole life, you guys will eat anything. I could see myself trying to choke down the Klingon food, playing tough by saying, “Mm. Just like my grandma used to make!” then once it was safe, go off and hurl afterwards. A tricky situation when Kargan is convinced that the Enterprise was out to destroy them, even when his fellow Klingon officers express one or two areas where the thought doesn’t wash. Loved your comment of the Enterprise simply wanting to chime in with, “Hey, you got a hole in your ship.” I was quite amused how you were jumping to the idea that Riker was going to have to kill Kargan. It would be the Klingon way. It would also be the Sith way, so I’m not in any position to complain. Fantastic how instead, Riker puts Kargan in time-out, says, “Look at me. I’M the captain now.” leaning and having swag in that chair as you described whilst resolving the situation. Gold star for Riker as you said. I also love the scenes Worf had with Riker where he shows his care for Riker, albeit shown in a very professional manner, and I so adored your own reactions to those scenes. Now to Mendon’s plotline. You expressed mild suspicion of wondering if he was masking the scent of dirty laundry via an eager to please palaver or was he genuinely just eager to please. I had a similar thought; I suspect that’s an intended reaction the show wants you to have. It’s nice that there was no wicked or malicious intent, merely different attitudes, ways of doing things that led to the mistake that was made, which he ultimately corrected. I hear you on what you said on Mendon’s scene of him putting himself down being so viscerally relatable, and loving Wesley showing the heart of gold by giving Mendon the pep-talk. I know, Jess, how you’ve spoken about how you’ve struggled with matters of perfectionism. I have as well. How you talked about for instance, when you inadvertently talk over a vitally important part and how that will just gnaw away at you for long after it’s happened. Though I don’t have a channel of my own, I understand that feeling. It’s one reason why I have the closed captioning on to help keep attention sharp, and just if I happen to not hear something. And were I in your place, that would be a fear I would have. Or for instance, my past experiences in theatre work, where despite all the practice and rehearsals, there still exists the fear of you could just step funny, and the feeling of failure, however minuscule, will burn itself into your brain and just have a day or twenty. It just festers in there, and every now and then, decides to be obscenely loud long after the events transpired. All this to say that I empathize so completely with what you shared, and I appreciate that you shared what you shared. Just as I agree how you have to tell yourself we’re only human. Of course, in my case, when the voice in my head says, “Everyone’s human.” I sound like Spock when I reply, “I find that remark... insulting.” Nonetheless, I hear what you’re saying, and I feel your pain. Oh, this was a lovely start back with Next Gen, Jess. A much appreciated reaction, thank you.

Ziro the Hutt

I'm still on season 1 so its a bit jarring seeing Riker now sporting his iconic beard! Looks like it helped his courage too, he was taking no shit. I said elsewhere, Riker is a different commander to Picard, but he'd still be a great Captain to serve under. Klingons are just like space Vikings! You could smell that ship from here!