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Star Trek TNG 2x13 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2024-06-15 17:00:06
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Thomas Corp

As you said, this was an interesting and unique episode with a really solid build-up. Upon seeing there is a second Picard, there’s plenty of avenues to take with that. Past a point, it’s the big strength of the episode that the mystery is less how it all happened and more what would have happened to cause Picard to leave the Enterprise during an emergency, which is collectively agreed upon by the crew and the audience that that is something Picard would NEVER do. I share the sentiment you imparted of loving the crew so much. You’re right that you wouldn’t be averse to any of them becoming emotional or upset whilst dealing with a situation like the situation of the episode, yet though they are understandably puzzled by the weirdness of the situation, they all calmly and rationally discuss the predicament, the facts readily available, and they hopped to in trying to figure out how to resolve the matter pretty goddamn quick. I confess to being a touch singularly focused in that if the Enterprise went ka-blooey killing everyone save for Picard, at least Beverly would be ok as she’s still at Starfleet Medical. I liked Marina getting some good time as Deanna in this episode. How since the other Picard wasn’t talking, she’s having to do the work of sensing his thoughts and feelings, and it’s great how she’s keeping an eye on our Picard’s mental state. Likewise, a good scene of Geordi and Data working together. There is shared relation to Picard in the not being able to sit still. Much though you said you’re quite patient, the feeling is mutual, being brought up a Cubs fan will do that, when you get faced with a problem, particularly one that’s quite opaque, yeah, you do just want to solve it right away, and have the solution present itself sooner rather than later. I do see your thought of wishing the ending was extended just a hair. Me, in addition to the time crunch, I kind of saw it similar to the Orient Express episode of Doctor Who when the Doctor finally confronts the threat, and given the previously gathered evidence, combined with his own smarts, he solves the thing lickety-split. Here, it feels the same as Patrick superbly selling how Picard has a keen mind; upon seeing and hearing his other self describe what happened, you see it falls into place that what he has to do is go against his natural instincts. I like that you liked that part. It was impressive as SHIT when Picard killed his other self. That could be a most therapeutically cathartic thing for a man to do, I would imagine. Your reaction to that was FANTASTIC, Jess. I also loved your observation of Dr. Pulaski wasn’t told the sight she would behold. Certainly, O’Brien wasn’t given a head’s up, and Colm was great in selling that though he knows Picard is all right, it is a haunting thing to see: the dead body of your captain; he almost sounds relieved when the duplicates vanish. I also wish to talk about the opening scene. I’m with you on loving the intimate character moments like the one we got. I got a kick out of your cooking commentary. I had my own in that Riker said he was making omelettes, yet it looked like scrambled eggs. Also, it didn’t look like he added anything to them, just plopped them on the plates, leading to everyone not liking them much, save for Worf, who yes, ate the eggs with the strong, “I’ll take three.” gusto. I do concur with Riker that the replicators wouldn’t do to well with personal flavor preferences. And that would drive me up a wall as I seriously doubt they would provide satisfactory amounts of garlic in certain dishes. This was a solid episode, a lovely reaction, and it delighted me, Jess, to hear you say you continue to love going through Next Gen. I look forward to the journey continuing. Thank you for the reaction.

Ryan

So, two episodes in a row ending with "Well, there's no way to ever know what the fuck just actually happened, let's just go all Never Mind All That about it and have some tea." Although that actually wasn't the intention. The original intended ending was to reveal that Q was behind everything, leading to a two-parter, but the writers' strike put the kibosh on that and they had to just throw something else together on the fly. And even before I knew that, I was never able to get much into it. The whole "internal clock" thing was already ridiculous when we saw the TOS crew time travel multiple times with zero problems and has only gotten worse since, and the whole mystery just never grabbed me as the general quality level of these first two seasons killed any expectation that it could have a satisfying answer.

Ziro the Hutt

Yeah Riker, that omelette doesn't look great! Needs a little more seasoning, maybe a dash of chilli flakes or tabasco and my personal favourite, cheddar cheese in it, to liven it up. At least Worf enjoyed it though! As you say Jess, there is a lot in this episode that is interesting and the setup is great with having future-Picard in the mix, bringing a mystery element to proceedings, and having him be a foil for present-Picard and his own doubts and troubles about it all. Stewart plays both roles here very well, where you can see the horror and confusion etched all over future-Picard's face; and present-Picard having to deal with seeing his future self be seen almost as a coward in his eyes. As he is a person who makes decisive and more often than not correct decisions, this doubt about the events to come and his future self, leaves him frustrated and angry. I agree that the ending feels slightly rushed Jess, and a scene that could have been replaced to flesh that ending out more, is the conversation between Pulaski and Troi. Whilst its there to remind us that a doctor can relieve the most senior officers on medical grounds, Picard would never be reckless in his decision making, so makes that scene superfluous imo. The crew are indeed the best part of this series (and one reason I've often struggled with watching DS9 and Voyager was because I never liked the crews that much), and something that annoys me from what I've seen of the newer stuff, is that everybody is shouting all over the place, going through paroxysms of emotion, and swearing too. That is not how a trained crew behaves. They behave like this, discussing things through, working it out and making clear and precise decisions, not impulsive ones. You hardly get scenes like this these days in sci-fi shows, dedicated to a few minutes of dialogue going through everything step by step. Love the scene in Picard's Ready Room with him and Riker, where the Commander is the one thinking with a clear head and ensuring his Captain isn't guided by his own doubts. So many times we see Picard be the guide for the entire crew; but its moments like this that show that Riker is an excellent command officer. As to the ending, it doesn't quite deliver, though the morality of Picard shooting his future self is one to dwell on. He wants to end this time continuum, and does it in a very decisive way. Turning around and going through the phenomena is not the best way to finish off this episode imo; though it is signposted throughout that doing the opposite thing will yield results, so I guess it works; but I would have liked something more with that. Overall, this is a good episode however, and one I'm always happy to watch on revisits to this series.