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Star Trek: TNG 2x14 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2024-06-22 17:00:08
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Star Trek TNG 2x14 Full Reaction - Sesskasays

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Josef Schiltz

Starbase Montgomery is, of course, named after our favourite Scottish engineer Montgomery Scott. Apart from that, I just can't get past the two trampolining rabbits who are masquerading as Will and Kyle Riker, beating the crap out of each other. Have you ever seen anything so ridiculous in your life? As Pulaski observes; men! Oh the other hand, maybe Kate likes bouncing bunnies? Meantime, Patrick Stewart reportedly took one read of the script and called it bullshit! Then there's the bit with Worf and the Klingon pain sticks. Hoo boy! Moving on.

Ryan

This episode should have been so much better than it was, as summed up perfectly by director Robert Iscove. He'd been a huge fan of the original series, and it was a dream come true to not only do an episode of TNG, but such a heavily character-based one like what he'd always loved most about the franchise. Only to be let down by how the show was still fully sticking to Roddenberry's insistence that humanity has reached its perfect form with no conflict among itself. Which is absolute death to a story like this about a troubled father/son relationship, and ultimately forces them to paint Riker's father with WAY more sympathy than he deserves so we can end with a big hug and all problems erased, despite Riker being perfectly justified in resenting his father's abandonment after already losing his mother, plus the rest of the crew acting like huge jerks as they insist on treating Riker like a tantruming child. And then they decide to center the whole emotional climax around an absolutely ridiculous fighting style which is built up as the absolute pinnacle of the form, just to make sure no one could possibly take any of this seriously. And of course, absolutely no one even back then ever took seriously that Riker might actually be leaving the show, so it's impossible to get invested in whether he'll get his own ship. At least we have a pretty great guest appearance by Mitchell Ryan, fully selling both the charisma and the less admirable qualities (maybe a little too well). He's best known as Burke Devlin in the classic soap opera Dark Shadows, its best character in its early days before it introduced a bunch of supernatural stuff and became all about the vampire Barnabas (who was perfect and deserved all that attention, don't get me wrong), and was very nearly cast as Picard, so this is a really fun meta nod for those in the know.

Tsuliwaensis

one of the main reasons I love your reactions so much is that I'm never the only one crying. 😊 how sweet is it that Klingons do therapy for celebration? and it certainly wouldn't be the same or maybe even possible without the pain sticks. whatever it takes! 👍

Thomas Corp

I’m glad you adored this episode for the character focus that it had. Whilst I wouldn’t say that I enjoyed the episode as you did, and I see some of the other fellas admit to not much caring for this episode, it is nice to see you enjoy it as you did. The main plot of the episode as I understand it tends not to be that popular. Credit where credit is due, Mitchell Ryan is great as Riker’s father. The writing needed another go over. I did cherish how again you had that approach of trying not to judge too harshly until you got more of a complete picture of things. I tried much the same, but my patience ran thin on this one. You express well how Riker is well within his rights to keep his father at arm’s length given the fifteen years of no contact. And as you acknowledge, grief does hit people in hard ways. The writing still hit several triggers. Namely, how the narrative seems to push the idea that Riker should forgive his father even though it’s not close to being earned. The big thing that set me off was how his father said the line about how he hung in there after Riker’s mom died, and the lines of how Riker shouldn’t have been all that upset. Past a point, I’m just watching and furiously bellowing, “Goddamn it, this is insulting, THIS IS FUCKING INSULTING!!!” All that said, I did love hearing your take on the matter, Jess. You sucker-punched me with your reaction to the fighting outfits, which I’ve seen be likened to American Gladiators if it took place in Tron, which is apt. I don’t understand how the scene feels like an even more over the top ridiculous parody of the famous Amok Time scene, then the actual over the top ridiculous parody of the famous Amok Time scene as was featured in The Cable Guy. It just feels a massive dissonance that the show expects you to be sympathetic to Riker’s father, and you’re too distracted by how you’re just marveling over how much he is a, uh, how did it, oh, right: A pedantic, pontificating, pretentious bastard. A belligerent old fart. A worthless, steaming pile of cow dung. (Figuratively speaking.) It was a breath of fresh air that Marina sold well the scene of Deanna calling Riker’s father out on his bullshit, your reaction to that being wonderful. Likewise, it was an emotional scene where Jonathan and Marina delivered in the scene that Riker and Deanna had. Lord, do those two have chemistry. I sobbed from my own viewing, and your astonishingly striking reaction. One downside is that there is zero suspense about whether Riker would stay behind or leave, you even commented on it. Even so, I like how Picard said what he said, and made you cry. Speaking of Picard making you cry, I’d strap in and get used to that. The man excels at getting the tears to flow. The Worf plotline was great in showing how the crew is a family, like you said. Good on Wesley for noting that even for Worf being a dour sort, he seems out of sorts. Thus, it is sweet that they arrange the ceremony for him. I would concur more with you on the sweetness of the gesture if I wasn’t so goddamn averse to surprise parties. Your reaction was most lovely, though, and the sentiment is still sweet. I did love your concern about the pain sticks and the potential fighting at the Klingon ceremony. Klingon festivities without at least one death is considered a dull affair as I understand it, so it is reasonable to surmise that fighting would take place at the Klingon gathering. I could have used more of the Geordi plotline. It is a highlight how he is trying to humor Wesley at first given how he’s dealing with the computer matters. It gave me an appreciative laugh over you expressing fondness for that. Speaking of: What’s this about you saying that I’m sick of hearing you express love pertaining to Geordi? I’m not sick of hearing it; it’s never getting old, Jess. Never. I live for it. So, though I wasn’t as fond of the episode as you were, Christ almighty, was your reaction SPECTACULARLY beautiful, Jess. I thank you most sincerely as it was much appreciated.

Dave Hampton

I knew you were going to enjoy this episode. While not one of many people's favorites, it had stuff I knew you would like. I like it too quite a bit except for the ridiculous fight seen at the end.