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Star Trek: TNG 2x22 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2024-08-17 17:00:15
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Amy Chlebus

I take it you don't particularly care for Dr Pulaski. A lot of people don't.

Ryan

So, this episode sucks. It's a scientific fact. Even with all the Phase 2 scripts to rewrite during the strike, they still ended up an episode short and had to throw this together from the odds and sods they had left. The clip show concept would be bad enough itself, and is taken down another level by them only having two seasons to pick from and only a bare handful of good episodes in there. And for an idea of just how hard a time they had finding decent ones, just look at how they had to throw in a whole padding scene of Pulaski enabling Riker to be transported. And because it's all focused on Riker, of course we have to get a montage of his bedpost notches as a reminder of how badly most of them aged. And if anyone's wondering, yes, teasing the death of a major character as an excuse to show old clips was already a hoary and much-mocked cliche in 1989, perhaps best exemplified by the Happy Days one with Fonzie's motorcycle crash. But my favorite is Geordi saying there's no life for miles in defiance of the stock jungle sounds they're using. Maurice Hurley has been very open about how he didn't care at all about the script, having already been fired over the season's dismal reviews, and no Trek show since has ever even considered doing another clip show after how much the fans hated this one. And if that story about Riker's grandfather was the start of Chuck Norris jokes, that's one more reason to hate it. But for all that, I still find the episode a very interesting artifact of just how different the entire TV industry was back then. Even if a TV show had been put in the same position by the strike last year, there's no way in hell they'd throw together a clip show to make up for it, and ESPECIALLY not as the season finale (if you're curious, the first season finale of Dallas in 1979 with Sue Ellen's drunk driving accident is typically considered the start of it becoming standard practice to end seasons on a big and preferably suspenseful note). And on the other side, any show that put out an episode as universally despised as this one can expect to be on the chopping block these days, and we can count ourselves very lucky that studios were much more forgiving back then and TNG was allowed to grow into the bona fide classic it became starting in Season 3.

Ziro the Hutt

Will skip this one, like Jess should have.

Dave Hampton

I will just repost what I said a while back so Jess can read it now since it is no longer a spoiler. I am guessing I was too late. "Lastly and this is where everyone comes in. Please like this comment only based on if you want Jess to read the next paragraph. Jess, stop reading now if this has very few likes compared to the rest of the comments. Spoilers for expectations sort of. I know that you are generally ahead in what you have filmed. If you have not gotten to the season finally yet you may want to skip it. If you want to be a completionist and just do them all that is fine but know that the finale is a clip show and by far the lowest rated episode of the series on IMDB. It is rated 3.3 stars out of 10 on IMDB. For reference Code of Honor is rated 5.1 stars. There is basically no new content and it is a waste of time. Again, obviously whatever you want to do, but just thought someone should give you a heads up. Hopefully I am not too late. "

Thomas Corp

Start with an answer to what kind of reaction that was: Certainly it was a memorable one to be sure. Definitely a bizarre way to end a season, that’s for goddamn sure. Way I have it, this episode is near the end of ranking the episodes of both this show, and all of Star Trek, if not dead last. This reputation helped me in that I expected something far more irretrievably awful given fan reaction. I liked it better than last season’s finale. It’s not at the same level of my displeasure of the episodes either Next Gen or the original series I have ranked last. Rather, it falls into the category of an episode that has a decent enough plot or story that just trips up its execution. The whole thing is not a bad idea, the laziness, however, DOES stick out like a sore thumb. As Ryan notes, the strike was to blame, plus Maurice Hurley got fired and no longer gave a shit as he was out the door. He’s been vocal about complaining about it. The appropriate response to such statements is, “Well... Bye.” It is nice to see how Riker contends with possibly impending death, especially him exhibiting the mentality of you don’t yell at the boulder for being a rock. Or yell at the hammer because you dropped it on your foot as Riker described. Likewise, a strong highlight of Marina and Diana putting in good work with the material of the Deanna and Dr. Pulaski dynamic in this one. And I do have to say that Dr. Pulaski does get a good showing of her medical skill in this final episode. I am happy that Diana got that. Shame about those needles. Yeah, I had similar reactions to those goddamn needles. I feel your pain on that one, Jess. They do at least have needle hiders similar to the ones that came with the shots I had to be given nightly for six and a half years straight. So, the way you kept looking away from the big ass needles brought back those memories of just finding some spot on your wall and staring at that to avoid looking at the needle business when being given said shots. Couldn’t tell you about the length of time that Riker had the glittery blanket given the aforementioned needle business. Concerning how you speak of certain needle scenes making you lightheaded. Whilst I don’t get lightheaded with needles myself, certain scenes with needles do threaten to make my dinner put in a repeat appearance. So, I get it, whilst noting as you did, that particular concern wasn’t here today. Concerning the snake business, thankfully no snake is shown, though the comment makes a man ask, “Wait, Riker’s great-grandfather is Chuck Norris? ...all right?” It was a highlight how you slowly realized the clip show nature of the episode. Upon the second time you clocked that, I said, “No, no, your eyes do not deceive you, Jess.” You bring up Friends. The concept is in lots of shows. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. M*A*S*H had a good one. Again, here it’s just lazily done, though they do at least have a Watsonian reason for it to counter the Doylist reason. And it could have worked. I was reminded of the big episode that Rick Grimes had in the ninth season of The Walking Dead how when he keeps going in and out of consciousness, he revisits key settings, places, people. The thing is, that was new footage and shows how long and arduous a journey it’s been for Rick. Similarly, in The Ones Who Live, the mini montages of Rick and Michonne’s greatest hits of badassery served that same purpose of showing how LONG and HARD they’ve fought to reach the point where they find peace and live happily. Which brings up what I see Ryan noted, you can’t really have a greatest hits type deal without the breadth of stories to choose from. The one benefit is more of the clips meant less time seeing the needles, and you had less worry about the anxiety. That’s something. Other highlights. In terms of Dr. Pulaski gloating that she has hair, she’s not alone. Everyone who’s got hair gloats about it; you become desensitized past a point, whilst getting a few good zingers in yourself. I knew you would like the scene of scene of Data being protective and concerned for his bestie. What was particularly great was how LeVar sells Geordi appreciating the concern whilst noting that he’s got the best chance of finding the vine the source of Riker’s injury. And Brent sells how Data recognizes that the logic is sound, and he concedes that whilst still being worried. The two gentlemen did good work there. You mentioned about Riker being a diva, combined with how you said that sifting through all the negative emotions will make Riker wake up as a Sith, makes me dryly note, “The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to much diva behavior some consider to be unnatural.” I loved Patrick playing Picard’s scholarly and gentlemanly concern for Riker, which has a nice payoff of both Picard and Riker admitting the feelings of wishing Riker was faking things, thus ending on a sweet cute little note that was nice to see you have an “aw” type reaction to. And yes: Seeing Beverly again does WONDERS for the heart and soul. A sentiment you expressed as well. Likewise, it is lovely to see Tasha again. A fucking warning that they were going to show her death again would have been greatly appreciated. Thus concludes season two. I await the advent of season three reactions in two weeks’ time. Until then, this was a lovely reaction, Jess. Even if by your own description that it was weird, it was still very much appreciated, thank you.

Geordie Joe

The 1988 writers strike and the show's production running out of money at the end of the 2nd season resulted in this 'clip show' finale. This episode is disliked by the majority of TNG fans, but I think they did an ok job with what they could do under the circumstances. If I had been the producer for this episode, I would have binned off the clip show element completely and just made it a full episode of character-building scenes on the ship, adding more depth to them ready for season 3.  Speaking of season 3, I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions to TNG's best season. 

Tsuliwaensis

the episode was a bit of a dud, as most clip shows are, but the reaction was still very enjoyable... I keep watching these with my Sunday breakfast, it has quickly become something I look forward to during the week. very cozy. 😊

Josef Schiltz

To be honest - oh, I am going to be controversial here, but then, I am a contrarian! - I would have no problem whatsoever in Diana Muldaur replacing Gates, HOWEVER that does not mean that I don't like Gates, in fact, far from it. I just happen to really like Diana Muldaur. Pulaski is a decent enough character from what we have seen. We'll just have to see how things get along next season. Keeping developments under wrap because Jess may dip into the comments.