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Star Trek TNG 3x11 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2024-11-09 18:00:08
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Star Trek TNG 3×11 Full Reaction

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Ryan

Just yesterday came the news that we lost Tony Todd, and goddamn, this one hurts. A screen presence like no other (okay, Tiny Lister came close), who managed to carve out an indelible career despite Hollywood often seeming to have no idea what to do with him. Of his numerous appearances across Trek, my definite pick for the best is DS9's The Visitor, a must see for anyone who doubts he was a genuinely skilled dramatic actor apart from his natural vibe. He's the Rocketman. This episode takes obvious inspiration from another recent subject of yours, First Blood. And it was especially personal for Patrick Stewart, whose father suffered from severe PTSD after his service in World War 2, which went completely untreated due to the lack of understanding at the time and caused him to become abusive to his family. I've seen some reviews dismiss this one as a basic action story, but it really doesn't take that much work to see what it's really saying. Jeff McCarthy is another of those actors like James Sloyan who was just everywhere on TV for decades, with the closest thing to a signature role being Michigan J. Frog during the days of WB having their own channel, and he very much proves up to a deceptively complex role. As for the other big guest star here, oh man, there's too many jokes I can make about James Cromwell, half of them from Succession alone. He took his people skills from his work pal Archie Bunker. The commandos thought they'd all get buns after the war, but he was really saying "bones." He won't even give them a simple "That'll do, pig." He'll get around to helping them once he figures out who Rollo Tomassi is. He finds out his life isn't a bagatelle, and he really does have his own meagerness about him like his brother. And of course, that mustache must mean this is the Mirror Zephram Cochrane.

Thomas Corp

Watching this episode this week, knowing you, knowing past reactions, knowing comments and statements that you have made in said past reactions, I knew that this one was going to hit deep for you, Jess, and that you would greatly appreciate it. The obvious parallels are of soldiers who go through traumas of war, and then contend with a government that does not treat them well, nor give them the help they need. As I see Ryan notes, this is something that resonates for Patrick given his father’s experiences during World War II, and it shows in his performance as Picard in this episode how he took that and used it to inform his performance here. Of the guest stars, Jeff McCarthy is excellent as Roga. The character is a most worthy adversary for the Enterprise as he had them doing the work. Not a bad idea, your suggestion of what Picard should write in the Captain’s Log. It says something when Worf gives Roga credit for his tactics. And as you say, it is a great balance of you don’t want to root against our heroes, yet your heart does go out to Roga, you understand his motives and the pain he’s gone through; hence you don’t wish to root against him either. Well, you know, save for when he attacked Geordi, KNEW he’d get on your shit list after that. When I saw that, I just glumly noted, “...ah, darn.” But thankfully, Geordi was back on his feet lickety-split, so Roga did not remain on the shit list for long. You and I agree that Deanna got some good time here, and Marina played it beautifully. Deanna showing such compassion, even initially when Roga taunts her, one brief moment where she calls him out on that aside, she’s still doing what she can to talk to him and understand him. And it ultimately goes some way toward Roga warming up to her. You mention how everyone gives her lip, I like how Picard, though initially reticent to listen to her at first, once she presents her findings, he demonstrates faith in her and comes around. Rather sweet, the conversation between Data and Roga, and the kind of bonding experience that they have. Likewise, I love how Picard gains Roga’s respect when Picard informs Roga that, much though he does not want to, he still has to turn Roga in and makes a point to say that if he had a way out of that, he would take it. Great how Roga then, in his way, apologizes to Picard that he’s going to fuck shit up so he can escape. Culminating in his escape, and the confrontation with the prime minister, played by the other big highlight of the guest cast, the legendary James Cromwell. It’s interesting to watch this now as you can tell that this is at the point of his career when he was still a steadily working character actor; this being before Babe made him a household name. Prior to this, one of his more notable roles was Stretch Armstrong in All in the Family. I am reminded of my late aunt/godmother who until her dying day, often said that when talking about James, or his name got brought up, Stretch remained her default image of him, even with his large body of work. Loved how you had the appreciation for James, and then how you came to quite despise his character, especially his efforts to avoid blame, such as when he says it was the will of the people that treatment was not sought for the soldiers. Newsflash, asshole: the people are FUCKING IDIOTS! You and me both of loving the heroes reading them to filth. I especially loved how you preemptively called Picard using the prime minister’s words against him. And when told to do something, Picard agrees to that and vamooses, providing, yes, an occasion where you’re more agreeable to the, “Well, you guys will figure it all out. Lots of luck. Toodles.” mentality that pops up in Star Trek a lot than we usually are. Loved your reactions to that scene, just as I loved your reaction to this episode, that I love that you adored it. Thanks for the lovely reaction, Jess.

Dave Hampton

I thought your reaction to this episode might be one of my favorites of your TNG reactions. I was not disappointed. This episode does not get the love it deserves IMO. I am glad you enjoyed it so much.

Jenny Chalek

Did you see that Tony Todd died? Worf's brother.

Geordie Joe

This episode was an allegory to US veterans of the Vietnam War, integrating back into American society. Michael Piller remarked, "The whole theme of the show was let's look at how society treats its returning veterans. I thought from a conceptual level we handled that well, and we came up with good science fiction to make it interesting." You know for a ship that has over one thousand people on board, they don't seem to have that many security guards. It's usually just Worf and two or three other guys that show up. I was glad they didn't try to include some kind of romantic angle between Troi and Danar. TNG has a bad habit of doing that in some episodes. "We had to act for the greater good" I know it's been a few years since your Hot Fuzz reaction so you probably don't remember, but I laughed when the prime minister said that line and had to repeat it just like the Neighbourhood Watch Alliance. "The Greater Good!" Fun Fact: The shirts worn by the members of the Angosian Senate were the turtlenecked men's shirts from the Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan Starfleet officers' uniforms.

Tsuliwaensis

"Captain's Log: I don't wanna talk about it." 😂