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Star Trek: TNG 1x12 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2023-11-11 18:00:03
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Star Trek TNG 1x12 Full Reaction

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Ryan

Just about every production that Laurence Tierney worked on in his later years had some crazy story out of it, and his character of Elaine's father on Seinfeld was even supposed to be recurring like Jerry and George's parents until the crew actually got a taste of how hard he was to work with. In this case, he made some horrific homphobic insults toward Wil Wheaton (extreme even for the '80s, apparently) after learning he hadn't played football in high school, and was aggressive enough that Wheaton feared he was going to beat him up. But of course that personality is exactly what ended up onscreen every time as well, and you can't argue with results, which is how he kept getting work despite his reputation up to his death. As for the episode itself, looking back now it's an extremely stereotypical holodeck story that would have been mocked to hell if it had come later, especially the old chestnut of "We can't just shut the program down because of vague tech bullshit," but being the first such story in the franchise it was actually able to get away with it and was very popular at the time. Though even then, you had people pointing out how weird it was that after building so much tension over this guy needing urgent medical attention, the episode never bothers to confirm if he's going to be okay.

Tsuliwaensis

I just adore watching Star Trek with you. and holodeck episodes are my absolute favourites, so this was a double treat! thanks for doing this! <3

Thomas Corp

We have our first real “Fuckery in the holodeck” episode. I too am unclear as to how many there are going forward. I know of two, for sure, beyond that, I look forward to rediscovering the others and revisiting the aforementioned familiar two. This I loved. I’m glad, Jess, you enjoyed it as well. I am such a sucker for noir and revisiting this episode made me as giddy as a schoolboy, as the expression goes. I loved how Patrick sold Picard’s unbridled enthusiasm of the noir world, and I relate. The manner in which Picard gets swept up in the noir fantasy speaks to my soul. Albeit in my case, I’d use the holodeck’s noir setting to play out the fantasy of being the notorious noir mobster ala Edward G. Robinson, preferably in Key Largo. Alternatively, the fantasy and escapism of the enigmatic, inscrutable, and anti-heroic/villainous noir protagonist, such as Robert Mitchum in Out of the Past, Sterling Hayden in The Killing, (The Asphalt Jungle as well, though in that film, I favor Sam Jaffe’s character.) Alain Delon in Le Samouraï, or Gabriel Byrne in Miller’s Crossing. And to complete the effect, have the noir music, for instance, I’d indulge in my love for John Williams with his and Johnny Mercer’s most excellent title theme for The Long Goodbye. It’s one of my favorites of John’s compositions, and last year, John debuted an astonishingly GORGEOUS solo violin and orchestra concert presentation for said theme. ‘Twould be perfect for the holodeck for its noir stories. As you noted, it was a sweet touch how Data got into it. I lived for how Beverly got into it, and I wonder how much Gates was acting, because she seemed quite swept up in it. That scene of Picard and Beverly, who yes, were both impeccably dressed to the nines, having that charged moment was one of the best things ever, and Patrick and Gates sold it to perfection. I could see it in your eyes how much you were taken with the moment. Me, I was saying watching that moment between Picard and Beverly, “Stop it!! I’m going to cry!! This is so beautiful!!” A big highlight of the episode was the bad guys. We have Lawrence Tierney being excellent as Cyrus Redblock. Nowadays Lawrence is perhaps best known for Reservoir Dogs, but he is also well known for older noirs, Dillinger and Born to Kill being two of his most notable. Here he’s excellent as the pastiche of the character Kaspar Gutman who was famously portrayed by Sydney Greenstreet, hence the name, Redblock. All throughout his scenes, I’m complimenting the performance, saying, “By Gad, Sir! You are a character!” As I see Ryan has mentioned, according to his reviews, Wil Wheaton, who otherwise highly praised the episode said Lawrence was a hostile presence on set, to him especially. Considering Lawrence’s reputation, which, for frame of reference, includes intimidating Quentin Tarantino, being considered the strangest guest star in the history of The Simpsons, and being so absurdly scary on the set of Seinfeld, which Ryan succinctly detailed, that his first appearance as Elaine’s dad was also his last, the behavior reported on Next Gen seems comparatively tame, though still exceptionally problematic and unprofessional. I giggled so much over Harvey Jason’s pitch perfect Peter Lorre performance as Leech. I loved your reactions to him. Shame there was no Wilmer stand-in, though we did get Wimer’s actor, the great Elisha Cook Jr way back in the first season of the original Star Trek. And a treat to see Dick Miller as the newspaper man. Sucks that the one guy got shot, and a bit weird that we don’t get confirmation of his survival. I surmise he did, given that they make no mention of his death, still weird they don’t have a quick line for assurance. I’m surprised how little I was bothered by the lack of focus on the political plotline, but it pays off with Picard delivering the greeting with sheer and utter CONVICTION. God bless Sir Patrick Stewart. And your own reaction to the greeting was delightful. Addressing your one wish: I don’t recall a Geordi and Wesley centric episode offhand, but I would love to be wrong if for no other reason than such an episode would make you very happy. I so adored this reaction. It was like the episode, the uh, stuff that dreams are made of. (Couldn’t resist, sorry.) Thanks, Jess.

Ryan

Rewatching this one, it's especially amusing to see baseball portrayed as being totally obscure in the 24th century except to historians, when Ben Sisko will later be obsessed with it and even get a whole episode devoted to it.