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Star Trek: TNG 1x13 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2023-11-18 18:00:03
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Star Trek TNG 1x13 Full Reaction

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Ryan

If Wesley's little "Adults" moment was everything people hated about him squeezed into one second, this is what happens when an episode's entire second half is spent on shilling him as the greatest person ever. And it's a real shame because the first half is great, building up a real sense of intrigue over a character backstory the fans had been patiently waiting to get filled in. And Brent Spiner perfectly nails playing another robot who's able to act more naturally human but still has something off about him, with support from spectacular split screen effects for the time that still hold up perfectly. But no one remembers any of that, because then it just becomes all about propping up Wesley by making the entire rest of the cast idiots who refuse to listen to him, with Riker even brushing off a report he himself asked Wesley to investigate, even saying he's out of line for giving it. And of course this includes the immortal line "Shut up, Wesley," which is what I was referring to a few episodes back with Wheaton saying "An episode that was verging on The Last Outpost territory suddenly has redeeming value." Unfortunately, since that review he's soured tremendously on the line and how overplayed it is, and now immediately blocks anyone who says it to him on social media, even if they're clearly joking. And to cap it all off, Spiner blows his line at the end and no one caught it, meaning that after a whole episode emphasizing over and over that Data never uses contractions (and don't bother examining his earlier scenes; the idea was only created for this episode and he'd used them several times before), the last thing we hear him say is "I'm fine, sir." I so wish the Internet had been around back then so we could see the fans freaking out for a few days over this being a clue that Lore had managed to take Data's place, followed by the crew sheepishly coming clean that it was just a mistake.

Jenny Chalek

Temperature check: I personally am thrilled if you do this whole series. Then other of the series.

Thomas Corp

Oh, I absolutely would love to continue with you on this journey, Jess. I am fully on board with that. Now to the episode. The big highlight is the plotline of Data discovering his brother, Lore, and allowing Brent to showcase his range. You mentioned not particularly liking Lore, at least as it pertains to his being an aggressive sort with the shade. Hearing you say that, I commented, “Yeah, I kind of figured you would have an opinion like that.” My own thought is that Lore does bring the theatre, I’ll give him points for that. He also has a rather dramatic motif. I share your observation that it was just a smidgen too obvious about Lore’s devious nature. With it, there is my criticism of the episode, you mentioned a similar thought, that the crew should have been a little more cautious around Lore. Like you said, it could be argued that it shows the trust in Data, thus it stands to reason, from their perspective that Lore is on the up and up as well. Shown well when Tasha stresses her strictly professional question on that, which Picard said what you and I thought about Tasha asking said question. Now to the Wesley part of the episode. As you said, this was a chance for him to shine, especially with his raising valid concerns and salient points. Aaand he gets told “Shut up, Wesley!” which as Ryan succinctly noted, Wil has since become SO sick of it, he’ll ban people on social media for saying it, even if it is in jest. He has also joked that the line put many kids through college via parents selling it through moichandising, where the REAL money is made. Shut up, Wesley! the T-shirt! Shut up, Wesley! the Coloring Book! Shut up, Wesley! the Lunchbox! Shut up, Wesley! the Breakfast Cereal! Shut up, Wesley! the Flame Thrower! (The kids love that one!) Even MORE fucked is, as you observed, he’s told to shut up when he actually was being a smart young man. I see Ryan observing it’s meant to be shilling Wesley at the expense of the crew. I suppose, but I hold the criticism more towards the writers for making the crew a touch lax this episode. Now, having said that, it was such a great moment when the infamous line made you laugh the way you did. Your reaction to that moment, Jess: unexpected, but not unwelcome. I concur with you on a strength of Picard is that he does listen to his crew and clocks their actions. Other small highlights of the reaction: I got a small kick over when you offered Data sneezing lessons. Likewise, I liked your observations of the difference of hair and eyebrows between Data and Lore. Thank you for another fun Next Gen reaction, Jess.

Ian Smith

The obligatory 'Evil Twin Episode', which was a seemingly ubiquitous staple of US TV storytelling,back in the day. Nonetheless,this concept works well within TNG's format. I always feel that the first half of this episode is highly effective. As Thomas and Ryan point out, the episode rather devolves into a 'no-one believes Wesley' plot; but I love the confrontation between Lore and Worf in the turbolift,and the final confrontation. The music score during the scene where the corridors on Data's "home" are being explored is very reminiscent (presumably inspired by) Jerry Goldsmiths score for 'Alien'.

Dave Hampton

Just a comment to say I am enjoying the reactions to all the episodes. It seems like you have not seen any of the episodes you have reacted to yet except one (I think you said you think you saw the pilot before but did not remember much of it). Also based on characters introduced in previous episodes who become recurring (I won't say which ones) and reactions to them I am guessing you have not seen a lot of what is to come. I am on board still for reactions to all the episodes. About this episode, I always enjoyed it and still did but on rewatch it had a lot of filler time in my opinion and was lighter on dialogue than I remembered. It had some unanswered questions (some listed above by others) that could have been answered with that filler time.