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Doctor Who "The Giggle" Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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Joe Crammond

sad to see Wilf didn't feature much in these specials, R.I.P. Bernard Cribbins, it was planned he would feature more in this episode but ill health and death meant they had to abandon those plans, feels strange seeing you meeting Mel out of sync, the doctor knows her but you don't, will be interesting to see you react when Mel joined the Doctor for the first time

Ryan

Russell T. Davies knows a lot of writers who use subtext, and they're all cowards. Everyone on Earth turning into a Karen is definitely one of the more existentially terrifying ideas the show has ever had, and special kudos to predicting that certain people would try to pull a "gotcha" over the shot of Shirley moving her legs in The Star Beast and specifically devoting part of Kate's rant to directly telling them "Fuck you, this is what you sound like." Very well done on both avoiding the hugely popular speculation that Neil Patrick Harris was the Toymaker and then figuring it out so early; RTD revealed after the episode aired that he came up with the idea while working with him on It's a Sin, where he realized Harris possessed a very unique skillset that made him perfectly suited to playing a new version of this particular character (just check out the way he effortlessly works those cards in the middle of dialogue!). And the result is...well, I'm pretty sure this is the most scared we've ever seen you with something that didn't involve a single snake. As for the bigeneration, it was rumored to be happening for months and a lot of people were against it, but now most of them have come around because what do you know, RTD is better at coming up with how to do it properly than some rando on Youtube. And I especially have to push back on the idea that it was a disservice to Ncuti to make him spend his first appearance alongside the previous Doctor, since he gets a whopping fifteen minutes here in stark contrast to the minute or less that every other Doctor gets post-regeneration, and owns every moment. I've only seen him before in his tiny role in Barbie, and I'm absolutely on board for him now. If I read that line about rehab out of order correctly, Fourteen will now go on to take however long he needs to deal with his trauma, and when the time comes for him to die for real, however long that takes and however it happens, his mind will travel back to this moment and become Fifteen. And after spending so long with the Eleventh Doctor's theme music as my favorite, Fifteen's is already giving it serious competition and may well take the crown once I get to hear it over some genuine heroic moments. I missed Murray Gold more than anyone else during Thirteen's era, and this is a big reminder why. One more thing I have to add is that there's a novelization coming next month which will hopefully include what their plans were for Wilf, and in particular I'm 90% sure that the reveal of the new TARDIS' wheelchair ramp was supposed to be followed by him going inside. Oh, and I hope you're now sufficiently amped up to find out what that somber discussion about Logopolis and Adric was about, not to mention meeting Mel, who I'll just say her presence at the regeneration has a lot more weight if you know her previous role.

Thomas Corp

Another great special. You mentioned briefly your ranking of the specials. I liked them all about equally; each one had their strengths. So, I knew you knew that Neil Patrick Harris would pop up, cool to hear you wrote a college paper on him, by the way. That was known for quite some time that NPH would appear. The fact that he was going to play the Toymaker was surmised by many fans, which is why I suspect they just announced it in advance. I heard the news, I was excited. With it there was a pang of melancholy as it made me miss the late great Michael Gough; I was most saddened to hear of his death back in 2011. That being said, hearing NPH would play the Toymaker was something to look forward to, and he was great in this. His chaos was quite unsettling. It made me laugh something fierce when Trinity popped up as an anti- Zeedexer. It is always lovely to see Jemma as Kate, who yes, her pantsuit was quite sharp. Yes, I know your love for the UNIT stories, especially your feelings for dear Yates. Great to see Shirley again. And it was a welcome surprise to see Bonnie as Mel again. I rewatched the video of your discussion of the previous Toymaker story to prepare for this reaction, and to refresh my memory of your original thoughts on that story. I agree with you on it being nice that we got a villain from One’s era for this. I share that feeling, especially as you and I have the same top three favorite Doctors, albeit Twelve is number one for me, compared to Eleven being your honey, and for me, the War Doctor is roughly tied with One at third overall. Because I rewatched that video, I figured the doll thing would get to you. Sorry to hear it would be your best friend’s nightmare. I also knew you’d say something about Rory not being mentioned. I said something about it as well, saying, “Where’s Rory!?” then later when we got to the puppet of Bill being by herself, I yelled, “Wait, where’s Nar-Where the FUCK is Nardy, GODDAMN IT!?!?” The Spice Girls number was jarring as hell, then again, my one comment was, “I mean Doogie is killing it, I’m not even mad.” Loved your reaction to that part. As to the big regeneration twist. Still processing that. The reaction I had was similar to your own. My comment upon hearing “Bi-generation” was, “Bi-generation? That’s great! What is that?” The subtitles threw me off as once it happened, they started referring to David’s Doctor as Ten, leaving me unclear how to address either Doctor at the end of this. In any event, we now have our formal introduction to Ncuti Gatwa as the Doctor. From what we saw, I quite like the energy Ncuti is bringing to this. His musical motif is quite catchy. I know what you mean, Jess, about so appreciating the thing of your future self, being supportive and offering comfort, that sometimes it’s ok to not be ok. Hurt a bit to hear Sarah Jane’s death be mentioned in the main show. Concerning Donna, I didn’t have any set expectations about how her story in these specials would wrap up. The ultimate ending is much happier than I would have expected. Most lovely, I concur, seeing the Doctor settle down and enjoy the family life. I remember your reaction to that moment with Eleven and the Ponds which is still one of your most heartwarming Doctor Who reaction moments. Nice to see Sylvia warm up to the Doctor as she has. Great to again see Donna’s daughter, Rose, and especially her husband, Shaun. And most heartwarming to hear Wilf still doing well, sad though it is we couldn’t have more of Bernard as Wilf for this special. But like I said on youtube, Jess, my headcanon is that Wilf will be a popular regular at Sesska’s Spa in the time he has left. And even if that time is not all that long, it’s like River said in her beautiful line, “Happy ever after doesn’t mean forever. It just means time. Little time.” And it warms the heart to see the Doctor with the Noble family, and that he lives happily. I thank you for the lovely reaction to the special. I await your hitting 100k subscribers on youtube. A Doctor Who video being the push that gets you to 100k subscribers, the idea does have a certain poetic beauty to it. And if it doesn’t quite happen that way, ok, but I think the idea sounds very nice. In any event, I have loved your Doctor Who reactions over the years, especially your reactions to Peter’s run as Twelve, and I look forward to the future Who reactions such as the upcoming Christmas special. Thank you again for a most wonderful Doctor Who reaction, Jess.

Thomas Corp
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Everyone on Earth turning into a Karen is definitely one of the more existentially terrifying ideas the show has ever had, I concur. Loved the writing for that, especially the appearance from Trinity being an Alex Jones type which had me cackling, “Oh-ho, FUCK! HA-HA-HA!” Kudos to NPH being quite unsettling as the Toymaker. Wasn’t aware of any rumors in advance about the bi-generation. Again, still largely processing that, though I don’t have any real complaints. Just surprising is all. Yeah, Ncuti thus far is great. I haven’t seen him in anything before, and I plan on keeping it that way until seeing his first full season, or at least the Christmas special. I had the same thing with Jodie as since she followed Peter as Twelve who is my favorite, I didn’t want any preconceived notions to influence any possible speculations. It’s for that reason I held off on seeing Broadchurch until after her first season as Thirteen. I hear you on missing Murray’s music during Chibnall’s run. Twelve and Eleven’s themes are about evenly matched for me. My favorite themes he did were The Shepherd’s Boy and The Singing Towers. The new Doctor theme does sound catchy as hell. Curious if the novelization addresses Wilf’s originally inteded role in the special.

Ryan
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For so long I knew Gough entirely as Alfred, so it was quite a surprise to learn that he was big in Hammer horror. My one big issue with Donna’s ending (besides the Wilf-shaped hole) is that it feels kind of bullshit that she and Rose both get their own lifelong Tennant while poor Martha only has the guy played by a sex offender. RTD has said we’ll definitely be seeing more of Rose Noble after the actress was such a joy to work with, so that’s something to look forward to. In the meantime, she’s also great in Heartstopper.

Thomas Corp
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Yeah, my introduction to Michael Gough was his turn as Alfred, and then I discovered his Hammer Horror work. That is unfortunate about Martha. Maybe we could see her in the series to come and do something about that. I wouldn’t object to seeing her again if nothing else. I do look forward to more of Rose Noble.

Josef Schiltz

The TARDIS: "I'm beside myself with this one!" Fifteen: "I'm in my underwear!" The TARDIS: "I can see your jukebox!" Fifteen: "Saucy mare!"

James Fish

Thank you for another wonderful reaction as always. There were many aspects of this story I loved & some things about this whole series of specials I may have done differently, but that's just me. With regards to this story, I loved the fact that they brought back the Toymaker - one of the most powerful of Who Villians - right up there with Sutekh & the Black & White Gaurdians. I love also that they demonstrated just how powerful he was. I like the fact they brought Mel back, she was never my favourite companion - but as an actor I love her. I watched her many years ago in something called The Hot Shoe Show. She has also aged incredibly gracefully. It makes me laugh how many of the Doctors older companions end up working for UNIT - I guess they have the right pre-requisites. I also think the idea of a bi-generation is interesting, but not as new as you may imagine. Cast your mind back to Planet of the Spiders (3's last story) where 2 versions/aspects of the Abbott existed at the same time. Lastly, I love that David Tennants Doctor didn't get to die, because I found his original last story very sad where he saves Wilf at the cost of his own life & has that big speech about wanting to do so much more. I love that he's been afforded that chance. Lest we also forget that a human version of him lives on with the original Rose in an alternate dimension with her family too. In my head I kind of see 14 end up working for UNIT too - albeit this time willingly (it took 3 a long time to come to terms with the fact that he'd been stranded on Earth with UNIT) and I wonder if they might expand on that in the future. Well I guess what is to come is all in the future! See you next time!

Josef Schiltz
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Having seen Michael Gough's original Toymaker back in 1966, I was surprised to see him turn up in a The Avengers story, The Correct Way To Kill in 1967. It was only later that I found out he was in an earlier story, The Cybernauts, back in 1965.

Josef Schiltz

Just imagine, if it wasn't for the Rank Xerox - sorry, the Racnoss - and Lance picking on Donna - and that because of turning left instead of right - and the Toymaker determining to have a second conflict with our favourite Time Lord so many years after the first, then the Doctor wouldn't have had this happy ending and a family. Funny how, despite the machinations of villainous entities, things work out in the end