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POLL: Pick the next Extended Play Lounge

  • In the Wake of Poseidon 68
  • Islands 51
  • Starless and Bible Black 135
  • Beat 17
  • Three of a Perfect Pair 29
  • 2023-11-29
  • 300 votes
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For this EPL, I want to return to music by King Crimson. I feel that this band needs to stay in the mix semi-regularly here on Patreon because I can't review any of their tunes on YouTube.

So, of all their albums that I haven't listened to yet, here are the five in which I'm most interested.  The options are presented in chronological order. Pick your favorite!

Comments

Paul Hoyle

A brilliant album Doug, and one I'm sure you will love.

Tom (the soggy one)

Dude! Happy with all these, but Islands is still my happy place for King Crimson. If it wins, make sure to consult with me or Ray to get the proper version of the original recording, with the not-so-hidden hidden track.

ax o'lotl

the way the poll is going so far is no surprise... S&BB is maybe my #1 crim. I will say, of the ones that are getting less love, Beat is surprisingly interesting... uneven but worth checking out.

Trevor Cotterell

In The Wake always seems to get overlooked as the outtakes of ITCOTCK..... but if they hadn't done that first, it would probably have been seen as a great album. Anyway, gets my vote! Agree Lizard too is well worth exploring.

Mark J Moerman

Islands is a top fave of mine that seems sadly overlooked in the grand scheme of things, but I'm sure you'll get to it eventually! No surprise that S&BB is way out in front.

Eric Purdue

Starless and Bible Black is interesting because some of it is high-quality live recordings with the audience mostly edited out. Fracture is entirely live. One song, The Night Watch, has a live intro edited into the studio recording of the song. A couple of songs are studio only. It's a smooth transition and hardly noticeable. I never noticed any of this the first few times I heard it.

Frits van Voorst

SABB is the third album of the three studio albums you’re visiting, with, in my opinion, the greatest formation of all 50 years: Bill Bruford, John Wetton and David Cross. No doubt it will win the poll. Btw, the track Trio is pure improvisation, for which Bill Bruford is credited for ‘restraint’. He didn’t have the feeling that he could add something meaningful to the way the piece came together. It’s my favorite track of the album.

Andrew Elliott

Voted S&BB because it really is so good, but Islands came a very strong second. Btw, the version of the track Islands on "Live In Chicago 28 June 2017" is, imo, outstanding.

Hetfield Ninno Davide

Anything Crimson makes me happy, but S&BB would complete the trilogy of "Wetton Bruford" era (and it's an amazing album). Hope you'll get to them all at some point in the future cause you just can't go wrong with Bob Fripp and on that note I also hope you will get to "Exposure" in the future (Bob Fripp's first solo album).

Tom Brophy

I'm surprised there isn't a lot of love for the 80's KC which to me is the definitive KC.

BRIAN MILLER

I hope you will eventually get a chance to listen to THRAK (recorded 1994, released 1995) which is probably my second favorite after Discipline. But for this poll I voted for Starless & Bible Black. I'm curious to see/hear your reaction to "Fracture"

Scot Poland

My vote is clearly in vain, but I greatly look forward to when you eventually listen to Islands. I think it will appeal to the composer in you. My shorthand for early Crimson is Court and Wake are the Mellotron albums, Lizard is the jazz album, Islands is the chamber music album.

Anderson Davies

I love the 80s Trilogy, they offer the most essential KC, are fantastically produced and the addition of Adrian Belew as counterpart to Mr. Fripp is perfect. Shame that the majority goes for the "classical" KC stuff like SaBB. My vote is on Three...

Bob Lessard

Hey! Where's the mellotron on the 80's stuff!? Love Cross's violin, Wetton's vocals and bass playing on all the 70's stuff. That's also when I saw them live for the first time!!! Will never forget it.

Jean-Michel LaFontaine

I love Islands but I know it's not a popular pick. Hope you get to it one day! Real jazzy album.

Einaras Sipavičius

I voted for Beat and I saddened with the voting so far. Beat for me is essential 80s King Crimson album, their most creative, consistent and accessible at the same time, even if many people rate Discipline and even TOAPP higher. Starless And Bible Black is also a great album, their most improv-based album, and it contains Fracture, which for me is the definitive instrumental of all prog music. Infinitely complex, but exciting to listen.

John Clark

Just a heads up for our North American cousins who may misconstrue the opening lyrics on track 1, side 1 (The Great Deceiver) on SABB which reads, "Health food faggot......."

Richard Moore

Islands is underrated. Hope it moves up in the poll.

ax o'lotl

one more thing that I occasionally see mentioned but not as much as I'd expect or like... don't stop at 80's crim. their later work is utterly epic... I'd say every album is worth a dive. Thrak is huge. ConstruKction of LIght is ... adjective. Power To Believe is even more adjective.

Bill Brinkmoeller

Since it looks as though SaBB is going to run away with this, I thought I'd give a few notes that might prove helpful. First and foremost, everything on this album is recorded live in performance, except the first track, "The Great Deceiver". There have already been some comments addressing the first line of the song, so I won't belabor that. I would offer, however, that this song gives us the only song lyric that Robert Fripp has ever written. The story goes that when Crim was on tour, during a stop in Rome, Robert took a walk in Vatican City. Everywhere he looked, reportedly, there were vendors and hawkers, and to his eye, the only things they offered were cigarettes, ice cream, and figurines of the Virgin Mary. So Dear Old Uncle Bobby volunteered that as the chorus for the song. Another noteworthy thing is the piece called "Trio". One will notice that Bill Bruford is given a writing credit on this song, though he doesn't play on it. And that's the reason for the writing credit. During rehearsals, BB came to the conclusion that the presence of drums would hurt this delicate little composition, so his decision to refrain from playing constituted a contribution to the composing of the piece. "The Mincer" sounds like it ends abruptly with a tape run-out. However, on YouTube there's a wonderful presentation on King Crimson's channel by David Singletary explaining that what's heard on the album is actually a bit of a much longer instrumental improvisation by the band. At the end, he gives us the full improv, pieced together from the original tapes plus an audience recording. And "Fracture". I was told on Discord that this had been green-lighted for a "Behind the Score" installment, and surely it should get that treatment. Fripp calls the piece "impossible to play," and the version on the album has a few overdubs in it to cover up some clams that he had in this performance. I recommend the album version for the EPL listen, though, as it has a great deal of power, particularly the "explosive" conclusion. On an "Elements of King Crimson" box set, there's the original version, just as the extremely fortunate audience heard that night; maybe that would be the version that would be good for the Behind the Score installment. Both versions demonstrate the brilliance of the piece and tour-de-force guitar playing, and in both, toward the end, when the band is really, really cookin', Bruford can be heard whooping with delight. This is a piece of music every bit as essential to Progressive Rock as "Close to the Edge", "Tarkus", or "Firth of Fifth", and I'm excited to see the looks on Doug's face as this epic unfolds.