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[Actually, maybe I should say the wrinkle sliders, because there's more than one. But they all kind of seem to behave the same: pull to the right for more wrinkles, to the left for the original plasticky faces.]

Release v2609.8.2_early_access of R.E.A.L. makes the necessary adjustments (quite a few of them this time) so that https://store.steampowered.com/app/3321460/Crimson_Desert/ can run perfectly in VR again.

You can safely update the game to version 2.01.00, which should carry you through the week until Friday at least, and then install my v2609.8.2 which you can find in the usual place. Remember that you need to rerun RealConfig after unpacking the archive and overwriting the old files.

[Well, no, I'm not being fully honest: some of them actually give you more wrinkles when dragged towards the left, whilst others do that on the right. And there are even some that seem to be doing nothing at all.]

I also fixed an oldie but goldie, https://store.steampowered.com/app/990080/Hogwarts_Legacy/ which had been broken for... well, I'm not actually sure how long. There were crashes at launch and when changing resolution, and due to some changes the developers made which somehow went unnoticed by us, the DL(S)SS-RR fix for Ray Reconstruction was completely busted. It's 100% repaired now, and it works even better than the original release.

[Yet, those wrinkles have been plastered all over the net for about one week now, so there must be something big going on... Maybe it's because of the additional flickering? Or the bleached colors?]

For reasons that will become clearer (or darker) as you read on, I also think that you might want to revisit a few somewhat forgotten gems, namely the three Spidey games that we support:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1817070/Marvels_SpiderMan_Remastered/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1817190/Marvels_SpiderMan_Miles_Morales/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2651280/Marvels_SpiderMan_2/

I backported to them the adaptive camera pitch control which I first implemented for https://store.steampowered.com/app/1086940/Baldurs_Gate_3/ . What that means is, by default the camera will remain level (locked to the horizon) only up to a certain absolute pitch. If the pitch gets out of that comfort zone, or in other words if the camera is pointed way up or way down, then the world will tilt in the opposite direction so that you can hold your head more or less still and not be forced to strain your neck to look beneath your feet or high above your head. This is sorely (neck pun intended) needed for Spidey games, due to the artistic direction of cutscenes that will often have the camera point up/down/up/down repeatedly every fraction of a second, particularly during QuickTime-style events, and due to things you need to do during gameplay like running up walls.

[Okay, okay, I've been a little snarky in my comments about the new DLSS 5 implementation from NVIDIA that has been spreading like wildfire. Like wildfire during a dry bout in a region with strong winds and dense vegetation. But I'm just joking. Truth is, DLSS 5 is shaping up to be the most significant (r)evolution we've seen in gaming since the introduction of consumer VR.]

For reasons that I will explain in a short while (sorry for all the interferences from the paragraphs in italics, it almost looks like there's two posts here that are competing for your attention), I finally got around to implementing a much needed quality of life improvement that should make your experience a little less jarring. As you know, when VR is activated games need to run at super high resolutions, and yours truly was only able to decouple the window size on the monitor from the rendering area in the headset for a few select games. The majority of titles implicitly assume that the presented image is the same size as the game window, because of course they expect that the window is what the user is actually looking at. So when coaxing those titles to run in VR we need to deal with huge windows that overflow the monitor/desktop area and cause all sorts of annoying behaviors, for example when you're trying to interact with the game or the overlays using the mouse.

Starting from this version, all games will support keyboard shortcuts to freely reposition the window on the desktop. The shortcuts are Alt+NUMPAD1 to Alt+NUMPAD9, and do what you would intuitively expect. For example, Alt+NUMPAD5 centers the window on the monitor it's being displayed on; Alt+NUMPAD7 aligns the top-left corner of the window to the top-left corner of the monitor; Alt+NUMPAD6 nudges the window to the right; and so on, you get the pattern. Using those shortcuts, it will be easy to do stuff that used to be frustratingly hard, like reading the optional DLSS indicator in the bottom left area of the window, finding lost overlays and use the mouse to undock them and/or pull them back to a more comfortable position, dragging the window title bar, things like that.

[How cool would it be if we could turn on the wrinkles even in VR? They look so amazing in YouTube videos, surely they will be even more impressive when you're inside the virtual world, won't they?]

Okay, dear interferences. I give up. Yes. Let's talk about DLSS 5. Nobody wants to hear about anything else anyway []-D

As you probably know, the R.E.A.L. VR framework is based on a quite "old" fork (old in computer years) of ReShade, precisely on a heavily modified and customized version of ReShade 4.9.1.

Back then, that is, about 5 years ago, ReShade had no concept of addons, while today they have become the most common way for modders to distribute and inject their libraries. Addons were introduced in version 5.0, and these days ReShade has reached version 6.8.0.

I've been thinking for quite a while of porting my framework to the new version of ReShade, but it's a huge undertaking that doesn't appear to be justified in terms of costs/benefits. Sure, I could have AI do it, so it would be ready in one day... and working correctly nevermore. And after that, no one in the world would any longer understand anything about its inner workings. The road to AI in the software business is paved with lemmings.

But I digress. Addons. They're important, there's no denying that. For example, the community-fueled wildfire spreading of DLSS 5 to almost all games ever created by mankind has been mostly driven by a ReShade addon.

So, starting from this R.E.A.L. VR release, it will be possible to chainload a second, newer copy of ReShade together with my framework. My .dll will take care of the interactions with the engine and the rendering on the headset, while the other copy will have access to the same DirectX device and will let you apply all kinds of new shaders (and most importantly, addons) to the game. The results will be visible in VR, not just on the monitor, and all the tests we carried out during these past few days show that there's negligible performance impact from running two simultaneous instances of ReShade (the one R.E.A.L. is based on, and the second one you chainload to run additional stuff).

No measurable increase in the frame time. Of course there WILL be a performance hit if the second ReShade is doing some heavy work, like for instance running the Neural Rendering addon, but that's a hit which would be there anyway. So the solution of having two copies, while slightly clunky, is perfectly feasible and actually gives us more freedom because you will also be able to run other customized copies of ReShade or complex third-party mods.

Instructions and caveats

You knew I would get to this section sooner or later, didn't you?

As you know from the Harry Potter movies, in order to have the magic work properly, it's extremely important that you spell the incantations correctly. I'll go through the incantations needed to run a basic version of DLSS 5 using an extremely popular and simple tool.

Then, Brandon will write a follow-up post with additional magic so that you can use a somewhat more advanced version, which offers a way better tradeoff between image quality and frame rate.

Just keep one thing in mind: this is very experimental, cutting-edge stuff. Unless you're kind of an expert at tweaking stuff, you might want to wait for an official release of DLSS 5 from NVIDIA. It can't be too far in the future anyway, given the explosive success the leaked implementation had.

Also, please realize that most of the code which has been popping up wildly over the net, about this DLSS 5 thing but also more in general, is AI-generated and might do all kinds of weird stuff to your system that no one even knows about. Case in point: during testing, Brandon and I had games that would no longer close properly, multiple processes spawning and never terminating, game options randomly reset, and I even had my game saves for DS2023 completely wiped out.

Luckily I had a backup. But our feeling is that the Wild West era of computing is upon us. I don't want to sound melodramatic, yet I believe that downloading AI-generated code from the net is a bit like going for street food in the back alleys. You might be lucky and find a real gem of a place, or you might get some exotic parasite. Not saying any of the DLSS 5-related code is infected or anything like that. Just saying that AI has been reported to do unexplainable stuff and has absolutely zero accountability. Most of the time it doesn't even have any recollection of what it did :-D

So, for the basic version:

  • install or update R.E.A.L. VR in the game folder following the usual directions, then check that the game is displaying correctly in VR and DL(S)SS is working properly;

  • download DLSS 5 Swapper and either install it on your system if you got the Setup version or put it in some folder of your choosing if you prefer the portable version. For reference, when I was testing, I used the Setup version 2.2.1. NOTE: this is the "DLSS 5 Swapper": despite the similarity in names, it's got nothing to do with the well-known "DLSS Swapper" that you might have used in the past to force updates to the DLSS libraries before the NVIDIA App was extended to support that operation directly;

  • BEFORE running the DLSS 5 Swapper, rename my dxgi.dll inside the game folder (the same folder where you ran RealConfig) to something else, say dxgi_rvr.dll. This step is crucial: if you don't do it DLSS 5 Swapper will fail because it will believe there's a competing installation;

  • now you can run DLSS 5 Swapper. You will need to point it to the very same folder where you renamed the dll; make sure it picks the correct executable for the game in case there's more than one. You'll also want to double check the other fields. Rendering API must match the one used by the game, typically DirectX 12; Automatic sometimes fails to recognize it. The rendering backend must be ReShade (default), and the installation route must be Native DLSS (RenoDX). Brandon will likely cover other paths in his post, but this is the one I tested personally;

  • after DLSS 5 Swapper has done its thing (check the results for any errors in the bottom panel), close it and go back to the game folder. This step is essential too, and you must use the exact names I'll mention, otherwise things won't work correctly or at all. Rename the new dxgi.dll that the swapper put in the folder to ReShade64.dll (it should be slightly more than 5 MB in size and the version should be 6.8.0.2155 or later), and rename back my library from dxgi_rvr.dll to dxgi.dll (the size should be more than 10 MB);

  • do NOT follow any random guides that suggest to use different names for the .dll, or to use third-party ASI loaders or chainloaders or whatever. To allow the delicate clockwork of two simultaneous injectors to work as intended, it's fundamental that my framework gets loaded early, before any graphics-related system library (so it must be named dxgi.dll), and that I chainload ReShade myself in order to perform the before-and-after housekeeping needed to make it believe it has full, undivided control over the application;

  • at this point, when you run the game the next time, you will have two different overlays accessible. Mine, which you typically bring up with the Pause key or the gamepad gesture, and has an orange theme; and the one from the second ReShade, which by default will be blue-themed and can be brought up with the Home key. The overlays will coexist rather peacefully; when mine is open it will get priority, when it's closed mouse and keyboard will be directed to the other. Unfortunately ReShade's native overlay can only be navigated with mouse/keyboard, as implementing gamepad navigation was my own extension. That's where you will find the new Alt+NUMPAD shortcuts useful, as the ReShade overlay often tends to hide offscreen ^_^

At this point, if everything worked correctly, you will have DLSS 5 in VR! You will notice it when it happens, because of the wrinkles, and because your frame rate will be basically cut in half. But Brandon still has a few cards up his sleeves to help you with that, stay tuned!

Comments

Joël Querci

Hi Luke and Brandon! You did it thank you very much! I am playing with dlss 5 for a few days now and this is amazing, but in vr… what a performance! Congrats and thank you very much ❤️ I will test it tonight!!!

David Jacobs

Oh this is huge!!! Dlss 5 in VR. Now I am really gonna need a new GPU. Was talking to Brandon about VR headsets too so gonna also be looking into that as I still have no clue when a Meta Quest 4 will be released. Interesting you mentioned not using AI for coding when seems others did just that to make a Cyberpunk 2077 vr mod with motion controls. Still hoping at some point you work on motion controls for your VR software.

Darren Stoller

If it tanks performance that much then I don't know if I'll bother with it at the moment.

flobv

If you have a Pimax Dream Air, could you implement foveated DLSS 5 to save performance ? And also apply the Neural Rendering before upscalling. And also use a second GPU for DLSS 5 (both NR and upscalling). Basically anything than can optimize the fps.

flobv

Some of that, and then some more :))

Ja Kob

Hi, I’ve installed everything and it opens correctly. However, the DLSS 5 menu on the left side is so large in VR that I can’t see anything properly or interact with it using the mouse. Is there already a solution for this issue? Thank you very much!

Brandon(Post Maester)

Change VR resolution so it is very small. PPD slider or game settings depending on the game, then it will be easier to look on your monitor and move and/or resize the Reshade UI. You can also use the new numpad shorcuts Luke mentions in the post to lock the window to the left upper corner. It is going to be a bit of a pain setting things up initially, but shrinking the actual window via resolution makes it easier.

Tomo

Wouldnt have read anything else with my morning coffee ☕️👏 dream air + dlss 5 for the win

bpatchesnet

Hi Brandon, I already got DLSS5 working with Luke's VR Framework and Optiscaler. The bonus there is that I can set the DLSSNR Model Resolution to for example 50% and get a much better performance out of my 4080 Super (I always play in mono). Can I set the model resolution with DLSS5 Swapper too? Or can Luke implement it? Otherwise I will keep using Optiscaler due to the resolution/performance options I have with it.

Ja Kob

Thank you very much!

Gary Langridge

Thats cool beans ,cant wait to see things diffrently

Ryan Thompson

FYI your DLSS-supporting games also work very well with OmniScaler, with its DLL same set to to winmm.dll in the installer.

Disco Dan

I agree with your point re: AI vs human skillset Luke. AI is a great 'learning' tool, but to become dependent on it and wholly rely on it at the expense of human experience is a fools errand. Take my industry for example, the Jewellery world where once upon a time you had to be indentured, learn all the basics, hand make everything, even master models, whether made from silver of wax, still they were hand carved/ manufactured. Nowadays with cad, resin printing and advances in casting and casting alloys it is much easier and far faster to just design in cad, cast, clean up and set the gems. This has a lot of benefits but largely depends on the technology and the users skills. Also, laws on indenturship have relaxed and we are seeing more unindentured people enter the fray, however given their lack of bench time, fundamentals and knowledge of tolerances vs time etc the quality has greatly suffered. Now the industry has been cheapened by massive influx of cheap mounts, fake gems, poor manufa Turing and finish quality etc, and the economical strain most feel these days has all but destroyed what was once a refined industry, choked into a fake representation of its former glory.... then again you could say the Jewellery industry is a microcosm reflection of the world and those who prescribe to the madness today. Soz to get all philosophical but you brought up a real good point. 👍

Nightayes

Nice! Question, is First Light working? The REAL framework loads up, but can't seem to launch the game into VR

833LZZ

Hello Luke, thanks for allowing camera pitch in Spider-Man games. Hoping you bring that feature to Ghost Of Tsushima and Last Of Us Part 1 too. That'd be really helpful during gameplay. Thank you!

Hoshi82

Oh nice Hogwarts working again. And I thought I was going crazy because it worked for others.

Brandon(Post Maester)

Yup, still working fine for me. Make sure to double check settings. What headset and how is it connected if not DisplayPort and default software?

paulk

Why keys combination like alt + numpad? Being in a headset looking for to press two keys? I have a short keyboard that doesn’t have a numpad so things being even more complicated. My keyboard even doesn’t have an Insert key. Couldn’t be just one key like Home , F11, F12 ?

Starling

Now all the characters in your games can look 15-20 years too old… in VR!

Brandon(Post Maester)

Or we can now use RenoDX along with Reno weather in CD for better looking visuals etc. It actually opens the door to a lot of possibilities with addon support. Just depends on what works.

Justin

Well I just gave CD a try with the new patch today. It isn't doing the 2D lock thing like before since the new RealVR update, but it is pretty quickly freezing up on me even with pretty modest settings. I had never tried the game when everything was allegedly working well so I'm not the best to say if something is broken by the patch or issues unique to my setup.

Justin

Also still an issue with Hogwarts where it says "This folder does not seem to belong to any of the supported games." when running the bat file. The folder location it puts the exe in for me in Steam is C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hogwarts Legacy

Brandon(Post Maester)

Worked fine for me yesterday after the update. I didn't have any freezing. Maybe double check game settings to make sure you don't have any no-no settings on. Frame Gen is number 1 for people in this game.

Brandon(Post Maester)

You are double clicking the config.bat file? Don't right click and run as admin.

RossH

When running Doom: the Dark Ages with v2609.8.2 (and older versions), the difference between Pimax Play/Pimax OpenXR and EVO/Sboys3 v1.3 (non-beta) REAL rendering is readily apparent, at least with my Super micro-OLED. The Dark Ages renders perfectly with the Pimax Play version (I had to adjust some of Luke's recommended settings to avoid some cutscene clipping), while rendering issues include incorrect depth of title and menu screens when using the Sboys3 driver. Does Luke see this issue with his Dream Air, or is this just a micro-OLED engine issue, with its broader HFOV? Update: Using Stephen Gallagher's excellent suggestion (below), EVO/Sboys3 driver looks as good as the Pimax Play baseline and has a little better performance!

Stephen Gallagher

Under the Sboys3 driver options, is "parallel projection" turned on?

Brandon(Post Maester)

I think Luke mentioned having to have parallel projection turned on in general. I don't have that option with the Crystal Light. It has always been necessary with any Pimax headsets that have the option though.

Stephen Gallagher

I think Sboys3 defaults with the setting off while Pimax Play defaults it on… you may see more double HUD and menu comments as people mess with these new drivers.

RossH

Thanks for the suggestion - that fixed the (long-running) problem! It is interesting that Pimax Support does not know about this. I have an open Super problem ticket in which, among other things, I have been pressing Pimax to share every Sboys3 driver setting required to match their Pimax Play "Normal" FOV setting. The settings Pimax shared with me do NOT produce their own Normal display however - the primary issue being their suggested Sboys3 VFOV is much smaller than the Pimax Play baseline. At no point did they ever mention the Parallel Projection setting! I have been able to play a number of UEVR games without this setting enabled (Sboys3 driver is a little faster than Pimax Play, with comparable visuals), but every REAL game I have played looked much better using Pimax Play (with Oculus runtime) than the Sboys3 driver. This suggestion probably changes that perception...

Stephen Gallagher

Right? Pimax really should pony up a few bucks and integrate these drivers right into their native software. Yeah, the FOV is slightly less, but Sboys fixes a distracting distortion warp in the center of the display when compared to the native experience. Also, they need to send some Dream Air developer headsets to Brandon and Luke to improve Pimax customer experience. First thing I did after receiving the Dream Air was check all LR games to make sure the device was worth keeping; if things didn't work nearly out of the box it was going right back. Maybe share this thread with Pimax on your "Super problem ticket" and they can take some action. :)

Justin

Yep, not my first RealVR rodeo. This has always been an issue with this game. The Lukeross program doesn't seem to recognize the file structure the way Steam set it up on my computer for this game

RossH

I did share this information with Pimax last night, via my open ticket. They thanked me, said they would log all settings I used in my testing, and would continue to look into compatibility and visual differences between Pimax Play and EVO/Sboys3. I hope your great insight (into parallel projection setting) helps others. I previously encouraged Pimax to pay Sboys3 something, as well. Note that Pimax already sent Luke Ross a complementary Dream Air headset.

Brandon(Post Maester)

Is your GameUserSettings.ini file in the default location? AppData\Local\Hogwarts Legacy\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor If REAL can't find that file there, it will think the game has never been run. If it is on OneDrive for example, that might be the issue.

Q

Hi all Is there a way to enable dlss5 for vulkan games (Indy) Dlss 5 swapper can add the functionality but does it work with Real framework? And names for libraries are very different too.

Brandon(Post Maester)

No, I couldn't get it working with Vulkan games. I did make a seperate Opti fork that now has foveated NR that works with Vulkan. But I have to do the cheeky video and updated release before I work on getting that pushed out. I also got the Opti version working with foveated NR in FC6 as a fun experiment 😋

Q

Oh ok cool, thx for the info! I just thought if that's possible and you are already working on it) Hope it works out

Brandon(Post Maester)

Yeah, they seem to keep asking for info but never seem to do much with it outside of now having EVO with OpenPort. They seem to take a long time to get anything done, but that seems par for the course with companies' vs individual modders. Less red tape and having to go through higher ups etc. I mean, I can't talk much because I am the James Cameron of YouTube.

Stephen Gallagher

You guys are like wizards. Did you get Dark Souls in VR to work with Neural Rendering?

Brandon(Post Maester)

No, haven't tried. Some games are really not going to be worth it. I also had to learn some very important lessons about builds and experimenting. I completely broke what was going to be my next release build by getting NR to work in FF7R. I should have saved that basic working build before experimenting more. So, I had to spend last night and today so far building again from my initial release. It was completely not worth it in FF7R as well because of the NPC textures etc. So, I don't think it would actually be worth it in Dark Souls either. NR really needs solid textures to work with if you want something that looks realistic. I suppose if there were good looking high texture mods possibly. But there are games where this would work better for now. And all of that is very experimental. The best approach would be making a separate mod that enabled DLSS in those games and not attaching that work onto Cheeky or Optiscaler. That would allow Luke to maybe implement DL(S)SS and make it more worth it. But that is a lot of extra work per game. That is why I tried FC6 first, because it looks a lot better than say Dark Souls or FF7R or FC5. Plus, I think FC5-6 would probably get a lot more love if they had DLSS and DL(S)SS but maybe not. But yeah, my love for the Souls games will probably eventually get me to try and see if I can get DLSS working in them. I wouldn't count on it, because I hardly know what I am doing as it is🙃 And this stuff can really eat up your time!

Justin

yes its there

Brandon(Post Maester)

Do you own a copy on a different platform or have you installed it from a different platform? Is your Appdata folder on a different drive than your main drive or anything odd about it?

Justin

Ahhh, I figured it out. there is a fakeout exe in the path I listed above but the correct path is C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hogwarts Legacy\Phoenix\Binaries\Win64

Brandon(Post Maester)

🤦‍♂️ Yeah, I should have caught that from the path you listed. Many games, especially UE games have multiple .exe files. You need to always put the REAL files next to the actual .exe and not one that connects to a launcher or something. The main one will usually have a much larger file size.

Justin

Well Hogwarts realVR setup properly now in the proper file directory, however after futzing around for an hour, it would seem the problems allegedly fixed are not fixed. Game crashes anytime I try to change resolution from my desktop monitor's default, and ray reconstruction grayed out. No way to turn it on.

Brandon(Post Maester)

Ray Reconstruction needs RT reflections on I believe. It needs something to reconstruct :) Do you have frame gen on? You could try disabling Steam Input if you haven't. I don't remember this game having an issue with Steam Input but that varies from system to system/person to person. You could also put a copy of your RealVR64.log file on pastebin.com and post a link here.

Nightayes

Nvm, this was my mistake. I'd downloaded this first person mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/007firstlight/mods/208 and I guess it clashes with Luke's mod. Removed it and Luke's works just fine. If Luke ever puts in a first person or finds a way for this mod to work with his that'd be fantastic, even though the game can be hectic in that mode. Still fantastic in 3rd though.

kalioS

Personally, I haven't done any Nvidia updates or DLSS 5 since last year, and I've kept all Steam updates blocked. I still have the original games, nothing broken. I might not have the latest features, but I have the older programs by Luke Ross, and that's fine with me. Your work has always been excellent, and my setup is thanks to you, my friend.

blue_devil1225

Hey Luke, v2609.8.2 is still crashing Hogwarts for me. The crash is a D3D12 GPU crash: CommandList->Close() failed / E_INVALIDARG. Immediately before it I get: Motion/output size mismatch for DLSS: Color 0x0, MV 1680x1050, depth 840x528, output 1680x1052, then Could not init the DL(S)SS state, followed by the swapchain changing to 2336x1872, Oculus shutting down, OpenXR becoming N/A, and then the swapchain going back to 1920x1080 before the crash. Quest 3 / RTX 3070 / i7-12700F / NVIDIA 616.64 / Steam build 20773316. Seems like something is going wrong with the DLSS/render-resolution initialization or resize. It also sometimes flicker back and forth on my screen. I have the full crash dump/log if you want it.

Brandon(Post Maester)

Try disabling DLSS. This game has had an odd DLSS issue, but it didn't usually cause crashes. You would just need to disable it and move around a bit before it would work as intended. Not sure why. But give that a shot.

blue_devil1225

Still doesn’t work. Now it is flickering between a smaller screen and bigger screen on my monitor but I see nothing in vr

Brandon(Post Maester)

Can you put your log on pastebin and drop a link here? Have you gone into the game world with DLSS off and tried running around a bit?

blue_devil1225

Which specific log do you want? And yes I’ve tried running around with dlss off

Brandon(Post Maester)

RealVR64 Is that the current game version? How is your Quest connected?

Brandon(Post Maester)

Are you using the new cable method for VD? One patch is failing to apply for some reason. It gave me a stupid popup and now the log is gone 😋 Please paste again if you want to. If you removed it yourself, then totally up to you.

blue_devil1225

No cable just over WiFi, I didn’t even know there was a new cable method. Also are you able to get that pastebin? When I try and copy the url and paste it here and open it, it says page not found.

Brandon(Post Maester)

I saw it briefly. I got a popup then it was gone when I tried to go back.

blue_devil1225

Did you want me to link it again? How do I stop that from happening?

Justin

Well I was going to share log on pastebin but that site asked me to confirm in was not a robot. Then after clicking twice that I am not a robot it asked me to allow notifications, then after allowing notifications it installed malware onto my computer. Not doing that again! Honestly, Hogwarts is doing the exact same thing for me as described that it was doing for others before the latest update that allegedly fixed it. Sorry I can't help troubleshoot more but I'm not that invested in making this game work with this mod. Was curious to check it out with RR, but I'm almost done with the game using UEVR.

Brandon(Post Maester)

Fair enough. You could email me the log at chronowake@gmail.com or use google drive too. Your call. Did you use the spell gesture system for UEVR?

Brandon(Post Maester)

Yeah, the player patch is not applying for you but it is for me. Did you make any changes to DLSS or especially FG for this game in swapper on Nvidia app?

Brandon(Post Maester)

So, I am tempted to think the player patch may be misbehaving due to that DLSS bug I mentioned. But I have no way of knowing for sure and that may just be a faulty assumption. But alternating between a big and small picture without VR is how that DLSS bug tends to act or you are just stuck in 2d like screen mode. Any mods installed? Any overlays or other software running? Steam overlay? Have you tried disabling Steam Input? Any other input devices plugged in, other than gamepad, mouse and keyboard?

Justin

No. spell gesture. I switched back to UEVR last night so I think that has messed up the log file, but if I futz with it again I will email it to you.

Ben Owczarenko

i know why it wont work, because the new version of real vr crahses with out dlss5 injected on startup of afop. Any ideas? This is just by updating to latest real vr and re running the real config nothing else.

Brandon(Post Maester)

Just installing the latest version shouldn't change much. Did you choose to keep or delete settings when it asked? You may want to double check game settings. Feel free to put a copy of your RealVR64.log file on pastebin or google drive and post a link here. A couple people lately have had issues with adds and stuff on pastebin, so maybe go with drive if you are able. Or anything that allows you to drop a link to the file really.

realvr

A patch succeeding or not cannot depend on a DLSS-related bug: the only thing that matters is the version of the executable. For HOGWARTS that hasn't changed since Dec 2025; it should be 4.27.2.0, with a file size of 450,656,768 bytes. Could you check?

blue_devil1225

Yes sorry I was at work. And yes it is 4.27.2.0 with 450,656,768 bytes. Is there a way that I can send you a screen recording of what happens when I try and adapt the resolution?

tigre blanc

Hey ! Did you manage to have RR work with Luke's VR and Optiscaler's DLSS5 ?

bpatchesnet

I got DLSS5 with Neural Rendering working if that's what you mean.

Brandon(Post Maester)

Yeah, you can set the model resulition with my fork. It's a scale slider, same thing. Foveated rendering is still not an option in Opti I don't think.

Ghanth

Nope. I mean that i got that working too... (Real VR + opticscaler DLSS5 in cyberpunk 2077... woooaw !)... but without Ray Reconstruction (RR): As soon as Opticscaler DLSS5 is installed, the ray reconstruction option of the ingame menu turns greyed out and can't be switch on again. In the end I get DLSS5 neural rendernig in VR but without the ray reconstruction "denoiser". What about your side ?

Ghanth

Hey Brandon ! ... your fork ? What fork ?

bpatchesnet

Sorry, I don't know. Haven't it installed anymore and I now want to try Brandons fork.

Ghanth

@ Brandon, sorry i'm lost.... are you refering to the last REAL VR with new reshade fork bluided in ? If not ...can you provide a link ?

Ghanth

Thank you... so to use that cheekyfork, i still need the ".addon64" reshade route, right ? ...so that's a requirement to upgrade to the last REAL VR framework to use it ? I can't upgrade so I am after an Opticscaler path to inject DLSS5 (with working RR) with those good old version of REAL VR that used to support more games ;)

Brandon(Post Maester)

Yeah, you can use Opti to do that. Don't know about RR with it though. But I have a fork I added foveated rendering to and tried it with one of those games 😉

Ghanth

This is what I did but with VR and Optiscaler (D3D12), Ray Reconstruction refuses to activate. I wonder if an Opti fork can solve this. Great that foveated rendering can help to save rendering force. Can your fork support fixed foveated rendering (no eye tracking) too ?

RossH

I finished Doom: The Dark Ages base game (looks great and plays very responsively) and started the Revelations DLC. About half an hour into the DLC, shortly after receiving the Chain Spear, I encountered a point in the game where the headset display starts an unstoppable horizontal rotation, centered about the player. Has the DLC been tested with this great mod?

Brandon(Post Maester)

The only time that happened was when I was holding a weapon with no ammo, it immediately stopped when switching to a weapon with ammo. No idea why, but that is the only time the camera would spin for me.

RossH

Thanks, Brandon - that was the problem. Guess I never held an empty weapon until this point.

RossH

Hi, Brandon. Out of curiosity, does Luke do any color flashing or rainbow flicker removal in his DLSS processing for VR? I have played with DLSS settings a lot (including upgrading to more recent versions and using different presets) in a large number of REAL games. I have NEVER seen these artifacts in any of his games, while I am seeing these DLSS artifacts appear and with increasing frequency in UEVR games. The only reliable way I have found to eliminate these annoying/immersion-breaking artifacts is to shift to DLAA, which is often too much of a GPU load (5090FE) on most games, with the size of my micro-OLED engine rendering windows.

realvr

Sorry for the late reply. No, I don't have any code specifically to prevent that, and I can't say that I ever witnessed the issue you describe even during development. It might be a bug in UEVR, or some unexpected interaction?

RossH

Thanks for the reply, Luke (and continued incredible work!). This issue is not restricted to VR - it appears in 2D gaming, as well (web search topic DLSS color flashing or rainbow flickering). See https://discord.com/channels/747967102895390741/1502425145774575656/1523994420746387527 for an example with UEVR. In the subsequent discussion, it appears that UE Lumen can contribute to the appearance of this artifact - reducing Reflections setting to Low (which disables Lumen) certainly fixed the color rainbow effect I was seeing. I could not find a setting in Silent Hill Townfall to eliminate the constant DLSS-based bright color flashing dots I saw throughout the game - primarily in character hair and beards, beyond using DLAA (which was too much of a load for my high-end PC). I tried changing Townfall DLSS versions and presets, and multiple in-game settings, but nothing could completely eliminate the flashing artifacts, only changing when they appeared.

Nicola Ardizzoni

ciao a tutti, qualcuno sa dirmi dove trovo la versione v19.2.0 per Ghost of tsushima? mi dice di aggiornarla ma non la trovo...

Brandon(Post Maester)

You don't need to update unless it is not working. It will always say it is in early access :) If you need to find either the early access or public version the links are in the post below as well as an explanation of how the new system is set up. Make sure to look over the install post if you need to as well :) https://www.patreon.com/realvr/posts/but-wheres-link-165840151

sherman james

does anyone know how to get the overlay to show up for the legacy version of the gta real vr mod to show up?