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Face/Off - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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2024-04-27 12:00:06
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No Sync Required Version: https://cinebingers.ca/h1Mxa6KB90 - For Patreon tier "Bingers on The Wall" or higher.

Movie runtime: 2:18:00

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Tay Schumaker

Just the peak of over the top 90s action ridiculousness. Cage and Travolta both are just on a different planet. It’s so insane and so great

JakeyShakeyBakeyBoy

First John Woo movie I ever saw and first time I swear I thought Nic Cage was just a normal actor, but I guess we’re all 10 years old at some point and don’t know better yet haha. Still recommending The Long Kiss Goodnight by John Woo as well. An awesome film! Geena Davis is badass

djKENTO

I knew I got that 4K blu-ray remaster for a reason!

Pam Nail

This is my favorite pre-movie "guess the plot" intro you guys have done, because this movie is so wild that ALL of your guesses were at least partially correct!

Dioskur

Ted, Rocky4, Fallout and Face/Off, guys you are doing some of my best guilty pleasures the last weeks! Lets see if you will love this as much as I do! Get ready for doves!

Tay Schumaker

In a movie full of ridiculous and fucked up things, Archer basically just stealing Castor’s kid at the end to replace his own dead kid may be the most fucked up. That and the face waterfalls

Ginger
>>136372395

Yeah, I'm sure his wife is thrilled that he comes home with some random kid: "btw, this is your new son." :D

simon brouillard

Sweet 🙂. 2 suggestions: unforgiven and taxi driver. Enjoy your weekend everyone

howtocookazombie (Stan)

Suggestion: "Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets" from 2017. And also "Lord of War" from 2005.

DeAndrew Greene

Simone's comment about not knowing who you are reminded me you guys should watch Smokin Aces. Underrated movie.

Elvenwitch

After seeing this movie I used to run my hand over her face and do my best Caster Troy smile. As for the director's signature, JJ Abrams likes lense flairs a bit too much.

Chris B

You guys have finished the 4th season of Breaking Bad..so you should have guessed the meaning of the title ;))

E. D.

I‘d be happy seeing Phenomenon (1996) on a poll, I love that movie, the mystery, the melancholic tone, the acting etc it‘s with travolta who is great in almost everything. Broken Arrow (1996) is also an entertaining one with travolta, by john woo

MikeBdrx

If you enjoyed this I’m sure you’d enjoy From Paris with Love. Which in my opinion is an although obvious different ,but a better version of John Travoltas character here.

Robban6948

I think that there is a thing called "Caspar Syndrome ". It's where you think people close to you have been switched to imposters. Also, George, while a heart-attack does not leave bruises, resuscitation attempts most certainly does!

JokerDanny

So Nick Cage's character was basically the Joker.

sarCC

YAYYYY! The time has come!!!

Paul G

The most insane part of this movie is that in less than 30 years time the premise went from completey bonkers science fiction to actually kind of plausible. Doctors have already performed full face transplants and as you guys pointed out we can now completely replicate voices with AI - in another 20 to 30 years Face/Off could become totally blase.

Paul G

Forgot to add, totally agree with the recommendations to watch "Broken Arrow" for more Travolta; also "Swordfish".

Thomas Yanez

Such a gloriously insane example of peak 90's action.

djKENTO

Michael Bay’s signature touch is not “explosions”. It’s the Bad Boys hero shot. The low angle rotating shot of the leads in slow motion. He used it in commercials and on models and then on Will Smith and Martin LAwrence in Bad Boys and now even The Avengers has a Michael Bay shot…

Martin Nicholls

Yeah, there's a reason why "George knows the premise" didn't negatively affect the vote. The face swapping thing is literally in the trailer, in fact if you'd watched the trailer you'd have known a lot more than knowing the premise. You guys should consider Bringing Out The Dead. I'd actually suggest Adaptation here but you (IIRC) haven't seen Being John Malkovich yet, and you can't watch Adaptation without Being John Malkovich first, there are rules. BTW I could totally see Snipes and Denzel, presumably Snipes would have played the Castor Troy role; but Denzel's range is huge and you could totally see him doing some of the middle ground between them stuff that the role needs, picking up Snipes' mannerisms.

Prof. Writhms

Wouldn't Sean's wife tell the difference when Castor made love to her as Sean? They didn't swap penises. "Sean? Your penis is a lot smaller. What's going on?" LOL

Paul G
>>136379872

Agree that the slow rotating shot around the heroes is his "signature" move but, in all fairness, gratuitous explosions are also a big part of most of his films. A solid Michael Bay film that actually breaks from his norm is "13 Hours" - far more serious tone.

Young Blood Priest

Michael Douglas and Harrison Ford would have worked well. Even though I like Arnold and his movies are fun, he is a movie star not an actor. I don’t think he could pull it off. You’ve only seen Wesley Snipes in Demolition Man and Blade. He’s great in action movies because he really is a martial artist but he’s also a trained actor who’s done several dramatic movies. New Jack City, Rising Sun, Jungle Fever and One Night Stand to name a few. He even costarred in a movie with Denzel called Mo’ Better Blues. Don’t sleep on Wesley. I would have loved to see Al Pacino vs Robert Dinero. They know each other so well I’m sure their performances would have been epic. I think Pacino is only 5’5”, though so I don’t know how they’d make up for the height difference but I’d still get my life watching if they had been cast.

Thomas Yanez

I love Nic Cage, but to me, it felt like Travolta did a much better job of portraying Cage than Cage did Travolta.

Martin Nicholls
>>136378234

It's not that big a leap, there's a bunch of technologies that were basically in the experimental stage back then; it's not like wild science fiction. The thing that's a bit of a leap, which is what George was talking about was the whole sucking the face off the skull thing which I take as a placeholder for "lots of microsurgery goes here".

Odd Thomas

Yes! One of my holy grail requests! All that's left now really is Sunshine (2007) and The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo (2011, David Fincher and no the original is not better).

Thomas Yanez

Regarding the other pairings that were considered... all you have to do is look to "Demolition Man" and you'd be able to see Wesley Snipes as Castor Troy easily, and I would LOVE to have seen Denzel doing his portrayal of an insane Wesley Snipes.

howtocookazombie (Stan)

Another movie suggestion: "Maverick" from 1994. One of my favorite movies.

Mike Adams
>>136378452

Definitely Broken Arrow, but Swordfish is almost Cinecringe territory lol

Mike Adams

Couple Van Damme movies you should watch are Bloodsport and Kickboxer. Then you can FINALLY do The Expendables

Opti_Frog

Seeing Gina Gershon as Sasha made me want to rewatch Bound.

Max Krause
>>136393564

Wesley Snipes would have been a wonderful Castor Troy, it's playing the serious Denzel as Sean Archer that is hard to imagine if you've only seen him in Blade and Demolition Man.

Odd Thomas

We need more Michael Douglas! The Game, The Ghost and The Darkness and Romancing the Stone (and its sequel Jewel of the Nile) are my picks. Re: obvious stunt-people in 80s/90s movies. First, that was just how movies were made then. Outside of Asian cinema ie Jackie Chan, actors just weren't known for doing their own stunts (although ironically silent cinema DID have actors do their own stunts - because they hadn't invented the concept of a stunt actor yet!). Second, movies weren't presented in pristine, high definition so it wasn't as obvious to viewers and third, most people just weren't aware of how movies were made (this changed in the 90s with DVD extras and making ofs becoming the norm) so they didn't think to look for the join. Now with digital face replacement the norm, it makes older movies seem clunky.

MaggiLou152

Two words: FACE WATERFALL!!!!

beefjerkywizard

Please add John Woo's US debut, Hard Target

beefjerkywizard

Great review. Perfect watch after a long shift.

Patrick

That runway is longer than the one in Fast and the Furious. I gave it a solid 25 mins before I gave up. The plot is just too ridiculous and Nick Cage just makes me cringe.

John

An underrated John Travolta movie I recommend is Phenomenon, great soundtrack and cast. I also agree Bloodsport and Maverick are definitely worth watching. Wesley Snipes is great in Major League, White men can't jump and New Jack City. I would recommend them all.

Jesse Coombs
>>136367734

Long Kiss Goodnight is pretty fun, but it's directed by Renny Harlin, not John Woo. Written by Shane Black though! (Lethal Weapon, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Nice Guys)

RipTheRipper

Requests - The Super Mario Bros. Movie (2023) - Morgan (2016) - Milk (2008) - Reality Bites (1994) - One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest (1975) - Lars and the Real Girl (2007)

Bennett Holleman

Archer's boss was also the father in law in Fargo.

Jesse Coombs

I love Nicolas Cage. It's true that he's in as many terrible movies as he is in great ones, but either way he gives it his all. I hope you guys check out "Raising Arizona" (Coen Brothers!), "Pig", and "Adaptation" (after seeing Being John Malkovich of course). He's great in all of those.

Starman Deluxe

They noticed "the Wire" actors but not the "Fargo" actors. Those being John Carroll Lynch playing the prison guard "Norm, Marge's husband" and "Harve Presnell" (had to look up the actors name) who played Wade Gustofson the father in-law. So many great character actors in this playing minor roles

REDR58

First time viewing for me. I really like how Travolta’s character is really opposed to undergoing the face operation at first and doesn’t immediately say yes like you’d see in too many movies like this. I really do not like, however, the excessive slow motion. It makes the movie look really cheap.

MacGuffinStuff

Castor and Pollux are the twins from Greek mythology that make up the twin constellations of Gemini. I haven't seen this since it was in theaters and had just been introduced to John Woo's Hong Kong movies by a friend, I never liked his American movies quite as much but rewatching this was a lot of fun, Nick Coppola, I mean Cage, is a maniac and I love it. Cage and the guy who played Frank Sobotka in The Wire were also both in 8MM, along with a relatively young Joaquin Phoenix, which is a movie I actually do NOT recommend. I thought it was a little too disturbing, too real, stuff like that happens in real life and it's horrifying. Cage was also amazing in Leaving Las Vegas but that movie also bums me out. Raising Arizona is a Nick Cage movie I do recommend though. It's early Coens and a lot of fun, speaking of Hell A (LA), ever flown into Phoenix airport and walked outside? Feels like the surface of Venus.

Paul Peavler

I really like the other John Travolta John Woo movie, Broken Arrow. It takes itself even less seriously than this one and Travolta just goes full bonkers in it. Face/Off is more popular and I love it, but Broken Arrow is severely underrated.

Jesse Coombs

Simone doesn't know who Jean Claude Van Damn is? Time to watch Bloodsport!

Mr. Treat

Castor Troy is my favorite name for a villain ever

droodly

You only know Wesley Snipes from Blade!?! DEMOLITION MAN!!!... He could have played an awesome crazy Castor, and then Denzel Washington mimicking that would have been amazing. I wanna travel the multi-verse and watch that version.

David N

I want to know if anyone out there has ever tried the hand face thing on a loved one before. I can't imagine it ever being ok even for a joke.

Lopaka

Another good Travolta movie from early 90's is Broken Arrow. You will see another fun bad guy. Also a John Woo film so maybe why Travolta got Face Off.

Odd Thomas

Agree Broken Arrow is great too, but the studio didn't let Woo use much of his signature slo-mo. Face/Off was the first American film of his where he had carte blanch - probably why it's his best.

sol stapleton

Highley recomend Mandy for the best nick cage film

Den Radar Ryan

Lol this and 'Con Air' were released to theatres in June 1997. I saw them both back to back the day after my high school prom. Had the theatre all to myself for both lol. I felt special lol 😝

Jacob King
>>136438532

And Pig. Totally different movies and performance style but you get to see his full range. What’s great about both of them is young indie directors are using his talent/genius to tell original and powerful stories that couldn’t work with anyone else but neither movie falls into meta commentary or memes. He is embodying real characters (as he does in Face/Off) not being “Nicholas Cage”. I need to watch Mandy again.

Jacob King

Watching this again I’m realising it must have been twenty plus years since I’d seen it and I still remembered every moment. As a kid I think I wanted to be Castor Troy. I definitely wanted a long billowy priest cloak and a bunch of crazy henchmen (and those guns.) As an adult I recognise he’s not meant to be the one you root for. What strikes me now is this is classic body swap Freaky Friday stuff. Sean is too uptight and needs to learn how to have a little fun and Castor is too loose and chaotic and needs to take some responsibility. ACAB includes guards in a black site prison the “the UN doesn’t know exists” where torture and shackles are routine. I don’t think any of those guys are worth worrying about.

Ricardo Alanis

The best overacting across both leads and it’s just a blast to watch along the super outlandish action sequences. One of my favorites.

BangDroid

I never saw this before, but it's totally bonkers! Somehow John Woo pulled it off! Oh and those two were brother and sister, which makes their kiss really weird!

Ken

I would cast Russel Crowe and Kristen Stewart if I were recasting this movie today.

sarCC

Oh, a great movie for people who haven't seen much Travolta is Get Shorty. It's his follow-up to Pulp Fiction, and he's very confident and cool in it. Plus, it's very funny and witty(one of the very best adaptations of an Elmore Leonard novel) and it's directed by Barry Sonnenfeld, who did Men In Black.

JohnB

Director Signatures: Sam Raimi like to put his mom's car in his movies.

Manuel Phelouzat

About AI impersonating you, @PirateSoftware thought on that and part of his solution has been to tell his bank and other important links to not do any transaction without him being physically present. It's laughably easy to fake a voice using AI, particularly with someone you can find loads of recording.

Simone's Coconut Squire

When you mentioned doves at the beginning I laughed my ass off. So many doves.

Persnickity

I love the nonsense of this movie. John Woo rule of cool. Its got style, its got flair and its got ....bleh..... peaches

Persnickity
>>136913881

Is your name a joke about Monty Python and the Holy Grail? Yes or no they should have used Swallows. Doves could never carry a coconut

Gary Fixler

I haven't seen this since it was in theaters, and it's even more insane than I remember, right to the very end, when the wife was waiting at HOME, not at the hospital, for her husband who almost died 50x to get out of surgery. He just heals up for days, then arrives at home, perfect, AND with a kid. None of this film makes any sense, and I love it. I kept waiting for the hanging off the high-speed boat by a chain, because of how impossible that felt to me in the theater. Oh, and I vividly remember Adam listening to classical music in his headphones during the gun battle, and everyone in the theater laughing, because of the juxtaposition of glorious music in the middle of a slaughter (but it was Wonderful World?), but then George and Simone just have horrified looks on their faces the whole time. Ha ha. We didn't care about anyone back then.

Angela D. Mitchell

Y'all's alternating expressions of glee, "awww" and WTF while watching this were everything. I saw this in the theatre and still remember the audience laughing (but in a good way) at how over-the-top Cage was. And I think Travolta was stealth-brilliant at capturing Cage's voice and mannerisms. He visibly had a blast here. And oh, the doves! So many slow-motion doves. John Woo and his slo-mo doves! I never thought the ending with the little boy was unexpected for Sean's wife or daughter -- it seemed to me that her nod to him was more, "Yep, it's happening" and not acceptance of "Whoops, okay, let's take in this kid." Especially since they have the room prepared for him (I don't think it's just their dead son's room at this point, etc.). I agree with those noting that Wesley Snipes is also a really good dramatic actor, not just an action star. Loved that you guys caught all the "Wire" actors who showed up here! I always love seeing Chris Bauer (Frank Sobotka) especially. And I'm always thrilled to see Colm Feore, the doctor -- a Shakespearean actor who went on to some really big things later on -- some headline roles in "Storm of the Century," "Thor," "City of Angels," and "Chronicles of Riddick," etc. One of the scene stealers here for me was Nick Cassavetes, who played Sasha's (Gina Gershon's) brother. He had so much charisma -- he's the son of famed actor/filmmaker John Cassavetes and Gena Rowlands, and like his father, is a respected actor and writer/director himself.

pinkdino99

Nic Cage went from Con Air to this without taking a break which kinda' explains his unhinged performance. It is not his most unhinged... for that you need to watch the sensory overload movie Mandy. Hard Target (Van Damme) and Broken Arrow (Travolta, Christian Slater) are both great fun also.

David Lonewolf Wright

I believe this was the most Michael Baye John Woo movie ever made. It is totally ridiculous and totally awesome. Two other John Woo American films, Hard Target and Broken Arrow, are not great fills, but they are a lot of fun and I would recommend. I think you guys might like what I consider a John Woo adjacent movie called the Replacement Killers with Chow Yun-Fat, Mira Sorvino, and Yondu directed by Antoine Fuqua (I think it was his first Hollywood film as he had directed a lot of music videos beforehand).