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The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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No Sync Required Version: https://cinebingers.ca/9OXLMcCIA7 - For Patreon tier "Bingers on The Wall" or higher.

Movie runtime: 2:38:08

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djKENTO

marketed as “The Feel Bad Movie of Christmas”. Who else is about to have a real bad time at 5am? LET’S GOOOOO

Reid Mclellan

Ah man, I ain't ready for this sh#t

Odd Thomas

Yasss, one of my favourite films! Now my top wishlist reaction is Sunshine (2007). Don't let Danny Boyle's name put you off, it's nothing like Trainspotting.

Odd Thomas

There was a reboot movie called The Girl in the Spiders Web, based on a later novel in the series. It's fine but nowhere near as good as previous movies (in either form). They kind of turned Lisbeth into Batman and it's a little silly.

djKENTO
>>144813120

the director of the opening credits is Tim Miller who directed Deadpool.

Emptysea93

I do love this movie but I have to say I prefer the Swedish versions. Not only does the Swedish versions include the other two books but they provide a more complete look into the characters. One of the reason I personally prefer the Swedish versions is exactly what you pointed out, Lisbeth seems almost like a secondary character in the American movie, whereas in the books and the Swedish versions of the movies place her as the main focus along with the mystery. In the books and Swedish movies, Mikael views her as almost as big a mystery as the rest of the case, and Lisbeth is much more involved in the case and you see much more about how she truly works her magic. You do not question the title in the Swedish version, because lisbeth is more of a mystery, and thus to many characters, is just a weird girl with tattoos when they first meet her. Including Mikael.

SbE

Been looking forward to this, but I hope that at some point you'll also check out the original and the two other movies in that trilogy: The Girl Who Played with Fire (2009) and The Girl Who Kicked the Hornets' Nest (2009).

PIG

I love David Fincher and Trent Reznor (the composer), two of my favorite artists today. But as said before, I prefer the original too.

James MacDonald

Wow. No one reacts to this, so seeing this pop up is a pleasant surprise.

JakeyShakeyBakeyBoy

Been a while since seeing this version and reading the three books but it’s definitely warranted a revisit with y’all. Always thought Rooney Mara’s a great actor, and highly recommend “Carol” with her and Cate Blanchett at some point in the future. Also agree that the original is absolutely worth making the time for 😊

China Andronicus

I would love to see you guys do the original Swedish version sometime. Far better telling of the story that actually focuses on Lisbeth. It also has both sequels so the whole story is told. Couldn’t do Fincher’s version again but thanks for encouraging me to pop in the original!

Jpsynergy

I do enjoy the Swedish trilogy as well, each movie is fairly different and interesting on it's own.

FischerMax98

You may already know, but there are 3 original Swedish movies based on the 3 original books. There is a fourth movie based on the unfinished book, that was completed after the authors death based on his material and notes. If I am not mistaken.

Jacob King

This is a good movie. I probably underrated it in previous comments but I maintain it was unnecessary so close after the Swedish one. I’d feel differently if they’d made all the sequels. The music is obviously awesome. The relationship is awkwardly handled - George is right that everything happens in her head but what they cut out was her monitoring all his computer activity and really getting to know him. The title of the book in Swedish is something like Men Who Hate Women, the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo title is more about book marketing but it works. Without spoiling too much this is technically a superhero origin story and I think the wildness of the opening credits had that in mind. The ending is also about setting up the relationship dynamics for part two.

Odd Thomas

I think the sudden sex scene is about Lisbeth distracting Mikael from the pain of his injury but also he's about to give up and leave (understandably so) and she wants to see the project through. It's also because she trusts him, which is pretty rare in her life. Her saying 'I enjoy working with you' is a HUGE statement for an autistic person who never talks about her feelings.

REDR58
>>144813440

The best thing about that movie is Claire Foy’s performance otherwise it’s kind of silly. You’re right.

REDR58
>>144823346

They mentioned the Swedish version in the intro for this.

AzraRillian

George, to add to why the title might feel weird, the title of the book was changed for international release. The original title of the first book in Swedish translates to "Men that hate women", which does fit very well.

punterjoe

Nothing against the U.S. remake.... it likely got more viewers to be aware of the story and picking up the boks or original film. Still, the origial version - better yet in the original format (it was a miniseries called "Millennium") is a much richer treatment. Dragon Tatoo is only the first act of a much broader, darker story. Whether you watch it on your own, as a small scale Patreon watch, or as a series of YT reactions, I think you'll find the original version captivating - even with subtitles. As to Simone's comment on books after movies.... many hit films spawn 'novelizations'. My personal favorite is the Star Trek The Motion Picture novelization written by Gene Roddenberry. It is quite different from the film - in very Roddenberry ways 😎

LazyArtist

I first became familiar with this fantastic story (and the three books) when I happened upon the Swedish film version, which I loved. There are two sequels to it, which continue to explore the personality and life (and dark history) of Lisbeth. Then this American version came out, and is much slicker, but quite good. I'd highly recommend at least the original Swedish film for the channel. ...In other thoughts, Lisbeth, yes, has trouble associating with people. Doesn't understand proper social interaction. She jumps into bed with Mikael because it seems perfectly appropriate to her in the moment. It's speculated that she has Asperger's, but never explicitly stated in the books. A very, very high-functioning autistic. ...The three books were quite the sensation when they came out, btw.

LazyArtist
>>144826671

Also, Rooney Mara is amazing here. Unrecognizable from when we last saw her in Her (the ex-wife, remember?).

Joanthan Skidmore

I have to say, I disagree with others on this.. the original Swedish version is like a made for tv film, imo. This is much slicker, richer and the music is par excellence.

Emptysea93
>>144829293

I apologize, but I have to disagree with this. What makes a movie great is acting and storytelling, not how “slick” it is. This version may look prettier, but that makes it worse in terms of story. The story of these books is gritty, ugly, and at times brutally critical of Swedish and European society. To me the sleekness, the cleanliness, and music of the American version make it worse, because all those things detract from the main purpose of the story… revealing the brutality and ugliness of men who hate women.

Brad Lowry

From your reaction, it seems that you guys, like me, have become big-time Stellan Skarsgard fans. It seems old in the realm "binge television" (2015) but might I recommend "The River" where Stellan is the lead? He plays a detective. It is the only work of his that I am aware of where he is without question the absolute lead character. Almost anything else I can tell you might be a spoiler. What I can do is encourage you to do everything you can to stay "unspoiled". Do NOT do your customary Googling – even the IMdb trailer is a spoiler IMHO. Originally BBC One, I think I saw it on Netflix and now is available on BritBox. I get that it is now 9 years old and was not a Big Hit, so maybe it won't make the cut for you two to react to. So, if I have piqued your interest enough for you to seek it out "on your own time" do have the cameras rolling as it would be a shame not to as you watch as it unfolds. Same recommendation for others that may wish to watch it regardless of S&G reacting to it.

Chris Servais

Great reaction to a great movie. [VAGUE SPOILERS BELOW] For a while, one of my main issues with the movie was that a particular character seems a little too obviously evil. The lighting, the framing, the vibe of that character's home. Like, the movie could have done a better job of playing up more characters as potentially the...antagonist -- it does have a few that are potentially on viewers' radars. But one seems to stand out a bit too much. BUT, as I've rewatched it a few times, I've come to appreciate it even more, because I think the point is that, even if you think you've solved the mystery by the time the finale arrives, a lot of viewers will be surprised by additional reveal/s. Not only who is/are the villain/s, but what actually happened... fully, with the mystery. It's like a planned resolution, and an extra, surprise resolution. Although I also have to say it was pretty wild that Simone essentially called that second reveal VERY early on in the reaction. Good sleuthing. Also, maybe it goes without saying, but the soundtrack just continues to amaze more and more, with every watch. There are a few unreal uses of samples and what almost sounds like found audio, although it's probably just an effect. But very powerful sound design, even for Fincher. Edit: Also Also, Cinebinge touched on this throughout, but the concept of the actual sleuthing is handled well too. There's a balance between feeling like we're along for the ride, as Mikael and Lisbeth search photos, compare documents, maps, etc, and feeling like we're not having the conclusions just presented to us. We don't just get the shot where they find the key info -- there's some waiting, agonizing, trying to sort things out, for the viewer, which I think is healthy from the film's perspective. Especially as other events, soundtrack, etc are making us feel danger closing in.

Steve Mercier

It's 'The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo' because Lisbeth is the dragon.

Vwlss Nvwls

I only ever watched the original of this. I like Daniel Craig, but just not sure I want to see an Americanized version.

Hans Czajkowski Jørgensen

George, you brought up that the movie title seemed arbitrary to you. It might interest you to know that the original title of the crime novel on which the movie is based is 'Men Who Hate Women'. My translation, so please excuse any shortcomings.

Rasmus Larsen

I find it really interesting that Fincher chose to keep the movie set in Sweden. The news station is real-life SVT, the money is Swedish krona, and all of the names are very Swedish as well. Another adaptation might've set the the movie in upstate New York, keeping the snow and general vibe

Scoobay

It has been a long time since I saw the original. I never watched the other movies in the trilogy as I was hoping they’d remake them. I do hope you get around to them so I’ll have an excuse to binge through them one day.

Amelie W

As gets more apparent later in the books, Lisbet is a legally distinct stand in for Pippi Longstocking. Pretty fun to approach the movie in that perspective. Super strong? Check. Orphan living on her own? Check. (I seem to recall she's singled out as the only adult in the country subject to this archaic kind of conservatorship.) Inexplicably wealthy? Fights the police? Goes where she wants on her (iron) horse while everyone else are stuck following the rails? Drinks too much soda pop? Check, check, check and check.

Nathan Jasper, the Artist Formerly Known as Primary
>>144831213

Nothing great about this movie. Mikael was portrayed as an idiot in the climax that ruins the entire experience. Mikael in the original was competent, capable, and was incredibly smart. Fincher insulted these characters and Stieg Larson's whole purpose in writing these novels.

BlindPanda

Had to block that Nathan jasper guy lol 🤘🏻

Chris Gronau

In the reaction, you talked about how Lisbeth's relationship with Mikael seemed forced. That's because, in the book, Lisbeth has a form of autism. Lisbeth suddenly gets in bed with Mikael not because she and Mikael are having a relationship, but because she doesn't understand interpersonal relationships well enough to know that you shouldn't do something like that with someone you don't know very well. Also, you asked if the movie followed the book. It's been a while since I read the book, but I thought the movie followed the book reasonably well, except for the ending. Major spoiler about the ending: In the American remake of the movie, Harriet somehow takes her cousin's identity after her cousin's death and lives in London using her cousin's name. In the book, after her cousin smuggles her out of Sweden, Harriet gets a job as a flight attendant, travels the world, meets a guy and eventually settles down and raises a family in the Australian Outback.

PureGonzo
>>144849270

For the record I agree with you that the original version is better, but the remake is still a great film. And more importantly… are you having, like, a full-on mental breakdown right now? I have seen you responding to and insulting literally EVERY comment in this entire comment section. Everyone is entitled to their opinions (and like I said, I actually agree with yours for the most part), but if your goal is to simply convince people that the original version is better, then insulting everyone with different opinions does absolutely nothing to achieve that goal. All it does is make you look crazy. Get a grip.

michael murray

With regards to the original Swedish film and it's sequels - it's worth pointing out that there's different versions available. The three Swedish films were all released in Sweden in 2009, then the next year they were recut, expanded and released as a tv miniseries; six 90 minute episodes, two episodes for each original book/movie. So the TV series (released as 'Millennium', the name of the magazine Mikael owns/works at) ends up being nearly two hours longer than the three films. The books were one of those times when something seemingly out of the blue becomes absolutely huge globally. The Author Stieg Larsson died in 2005 before any of the books were published, after English translations were published in 2008 he became one of the best selling fiction authors in the world. He hadn't left a recent will, but one was found dated from 1977 where he stipulated his assets to go to the Communist Workers League. It was unwitnessed so not valid under Swedish law and all his assets went to his Father and Brother. His partner of 32 years got nothing because they were unmarried.

Carl Evans

The movies The Girl That Played with Fire and The Girl That Kicked the Hornet's Nest continue the story of Lisbeth and Mikael. Both movies are worth a watch even with subtitles. You get more into Lisbeth's background and your other questions. George is off on Mikael being a womanizer and only caring about sex though. It is deeper than that.

Tall Paul

Random intergenerational thing for Simone, because of her comments in the outro. Books of original films used to exist before home videos were available. I saw Empire Strikes Back having only read the novel of Star Wars.

Carl Evans
>>144830828

It's "River", not "The River". And it's the first time I noticed this actor. It's very unique and completely well done in only 6 engrossing episodes. Like the music a lot too.

Ste Rawlings

Lisbeth fought back by setting fire to her father. It's probably safe to assume she got the dragon tattoo after that.

PIG
>>144858359

Wow! I never any of this. Thank you for all of that.

Christopher Runyon

First time watching the remake. Not a bad remake at all, but the original Swedish is better. I think the final act has better pacing in the original but overall this is a pretty solid remake.

LazyArtist

Simone MUST be rockin' a Lisbeth Salander mohawk-y thing for when we watch the Swedish version. MUST.

JokerDanny

Please react to Elvis (2022) it's a fantastic movie and tells the story of his life

Bennett Holleman

That was not Pycelle from GOT, it was Luwin. Big difference.

REDR58

Some song covers/remakes eclipse the original. The version of “Immigrant Song” that opens the movie is not one of them. Blech.

Grand Moff Slackin'

Still bummed that Fincher wasn’t able to complete the trilogy.

FranciscoGios

Do you guys still watch Star Wars? because there is something I call #1 show ANDOR; it also has great actors in it. Thanks 👍

Angela D. Mitchell

Just to nitpick -- it's not an American version of the Swedish film, it's an American adaptation of the Swedish novel, which was also made into a trilogy of films in Sweden. So not a remake, a separate adaptation. (Sorry, I'm a nerd.) I honestly prefer this to the Swedish adaptation. I just feel like the Swedish version is overacted (it's just my taste), and there's something so clean and creepy about this one. Meanwhile -- what I like about the relationship between Lisbeth and Mikael is that he is the soft, vulnerable one -- "the damsel," in the story -- and Lisbeth is the strong indomitable hero, right down to rescuing him in the end. She sleeps with him after he is shot and she once again sees that he is not some kind of superhero, just a kind man, vulnerable and scared. She understands that vulnerability and I think it moves her, so she feels genuine feelings for him and acts on them. (And we already know she genuinely likes and respects him from her investigation.) I feel so very sad for Lisbeth at the end. It breaks my heart because she has so few people to truly lean on, and the irony to me is that he would be one of those people who would always be a true friend to her -- if not a true lover (and I think Mikael would have been shocked to know how much he meant to Lisbeth).

simon brouillard

2001 a space odyssey, The book and the movie where done simultaneously, the book was released after the movie 🙂.

sarCC

The opening credits sequence was incredible.

Monica Alarcon

I'm sorry. I just couldn't finish this one...

Tenwyn
>>144874732

Really? I thought it was pretty good, it dragged a bit in certain parts but most Fincher movies do

REDR58

I enjoyed your reaction even though I am amused when you guys are so surprised that someone initiales sex seemingly out of the blue, as Lisbeth did with Mikael. Sometimes that just happens. I saw it more of a “friends with benefits” thing at first with her. Steven Berkoff (Frode) plays Victor Maitland, one of the main antagonists from Beverly Hills Cop. He’s the guy who visits Axel’s friend in art gallery. Julian Sands who plays the younger version of Christopher Plummer’s Henrik, seen mostly in the photographs, was an English actor who was in Arachnophobia and Ocean’s 13. He died sometime in January 2023 after going missing while hiking in California and his remains were found in June 2023. Speaking of Scarlett Johansson and the movie of hers you mentioned in the trivia section, “Under the Skin” (2013), you should definitely check it out. It’s quite an unusual sort of sci-fi story. Likewise with “Lucy” from 2014.

mky

Daniel Craig gained weight for this role by eating donuts and what he initially thought were donut holes, but turned out to be little donut hole-sized donuts, with their own tiny holes in the center. Years later, he remembered his weight gain regimen during the filming of "Knives Out", and suggested the idea to Rian Johnson. Fun fact: if you look very, very closely at the tiny holes in the small donut hole-sized donuts that Daniel Craig ate, you'll find this comment! Seems impossible, doesn't it?

warcrimes

The dragon represents her burning her father and indirectly, Martin. Really wish y 'all had watched the original first, although this was a great adaptation.

Mastervodo
>>144853674

You can do that? Great idea! Having and sharing your opinion is one thing. Troll-Bombing negative comments is just being an asshole. And we don't need that here.

Paul Davey

The book was retitled "Dragon Tattoo" in foreign markets. The Swedish title is "Men Who Hate Women."

Philipp Roensch

I really like this version, I think it is told quite effectively, despite the length, and gets the main character motivations and emotional payoff right. Fincher's style for crime drama is perfect, and this one felt like an intense investigation throughout. Got another American adaptation of a Finnish movie that I enjoyed: Cold Pursuit (2019). Has a way lighter tone, still dark humor with action, one of the good Liam Neeson ventures.

Raven Dark

I watched this movie once, and although it's a great movie and a great story, I can't watch it again. It gives me panic attacks. But I did listen to your before and after discussions. I love listening to you two talk movies, and I'm glad you enjoyed it. Simone, with regards to your comments on whether books get written based on movies instead of the other way around. I remember, in the 90s, there were a lot of hit movies, especially action films, that were turned into books. I had a slew of them, and for a while, it seemed like every major film had a book come out based on it. I had Air Force One, True Lies, Independence Day, The three Star Wars prequels, Goldeneye (James Bond) and many more. Back then, I would see a movie and often immediately go to the local book store to see if there was a book version, because I loved reading how authors would translate things like difficult action scenes into the written form. I know that happened before then (Karate Kid had a book version), and it's happened after, but it seemed like in the 90s in particular it was a big thing. I'm not sure if you could still get them or not. They may have been limited prints or something. The covers for Air Force One and True Lies in particular were cool, because it was a book-sized version of the movie poster with the main actors, Harrison Ford, and Jamie Lee Curtis and Arnie respectfully. Ohh! I almost forgot--the book for Independence Day was really cool. It had the movie poster for the cover, and it came with a bookmark that had the cover too, but it was a specially made one that, when you moved it a certain way, the image changed. If you looked at it straight on, it had the White House in tact with the spaceship above it, but if you tilted it a little to the right or left, the image changed to the White House exploding.

Odd Thomas
>>144869458

Agree, but the other two books weren't as compelling as the first (I love Lisbeth though)

REDR58
>>144893417

Yes, often you would see “Read the Berkeley Book” (as seen in “The Last Starfighter”) or whatever the name of the publisher was in the end credits for the tie-in novelization.

REDR58
>>144859736

The novelization for the 1977 Star Wars movie was credited to George Lucas but was ghost written by Alan Dean Foster. The book came out a few months before the movie was released and was originally titled “Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker.”

REDR58
>>144859733

He doesn’t particularly come off as a womanizer in this movie. He seems almost reluctant to sleep with Lisbeth at first. He does nothing at all to come on to her prior to her making the first move. You can even see her flinch for a moment earlier on when he reaches around her as they are looking closely at the computer. It’s a completely non-sexual move but you can see it bothers her for a moment. He doesn’t even notice and then she seems to relax.

Logan Kerlee
>>144876500

I don't think that I ever watched Under The Skin but I did enjoy Lucy! I'd be down to give it a go, though. :)

Richard

Some non movie trivia Rooney Mara and her actress sister, Kate, families are NFL royalty. Their great-grandfathers, Art Rooney, Sr. founded the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1933 and Tim Mara, the New York Giants in 1925.

Amar

You watched Dunkirk, Revenant & TGWTDT all in one day? What a great segue into our sponsor, Better help.

HansD

You're not going to get any English-language versions of the rest of the trilogy, so if you want the rest of Lisbeth's story you have to read the books or watch the Swedish films. Noomi Rapace is amazing as Lisbeth in the films so that would be my choice.

Lewis Hobbs

This only followed the first of a three book series. Unfortunately the movie didn't do well in the box office. Between that and Daniel Kreg's James Bond commitments the other 2 movies never got made. The books are way better and a lot of your questions are answered in them.

Gary Fixler

This movie is so full of loud transitions between scenes, which is also a great time without dialogue for Simone and George to catch up on their thoughts, but every big scene change, I'd look over a minute later, noise still blaring, and realize they'd been talking the whole time, and I missed all of it.

Jack Urmson

This is a good movie, no doubting that. The original Swedish version, especially the extended edition , is even better. Plus, the whole trilogy is available to see. You two should definitely do those for the channel. 👍👍

Gary Fixler
>>145044174

Still loved the reaction. Just a note to future directors to keep it down so I can hear George and Simone 😆

Gary Fixler

I looked up Rooney Mara, and got a good laugh when the first thing I found was that Taylor Swift had spent a while messaging her, trying to get her into her girl "squad," but Rooney wasn't interested. I wonder if it was to try to get her into that video that has about 80 cameos of all the famous hot girls of the day.

Lou Gallucci

I felt so bad when you were so happy about the cat :*(

Lou Gallucci
>>145142170

The relationship sets up better in the books. They describe Craig's character as an extremely confidant man who's sort of a womanizer but attracts a lot of women who fall in love with him. They also describe Lisbeth as someone who treats sex very casually - but is inexperienced and sort of naive with relationships because of the abuse she's suffered. I kind of wish Fincher got to make the next 2, just because the second one was my favorite of the three books and I'd like to see how he does it, but the Swedish adaptation was pretty good overall. Noomi Rapace played Lisbeth and she was fantastic.

Mark Lecuyer

Per Lizbeth & Mikael: I felt there were enough 'clues' that when the sex scene occurs, it wasn't out of nowhere 1. he comes to her for help via her skills & not trying to take advantage of her 2. She feels he isn't stupid. She was impressed how much of the case he had uncovered. 3. When he is shot, he shows vulnerability - he is not trying to act macho or not let her help. he trusts her, enough to let her sew the wound with dental floss.. 4 Like you mentioned in the vid: in that moment - she could control the situation. She felt safe with him, and we can assume there is some attraction (the guy looks like Daniel Craig and who know how long she observed him for the report she did) As we saw with the 1st sexual abuse - she went out and hooked up with the girl ... to regain some control - to feel in a sexual way with out being abused. I feel it was a very powerful scene know what we know from what has happened to her. Remember, when she 1st comes to the cottage, he goes to the computer and slightly touches her and she flinches. And then we can see how the relationship changes - he has already sort of lost interest even before them finding out what happened to Harriet. I found it interesting that George was hung up (all good- I watch for your honest reactions) on the title. You can look up that the title in Sweden is actually different - but the title is very cool to me and never really questioned it. Now, when I saw the movie - I was completely aware of the story and wasn't trying to predict the story from the poster. ( I think there is an old saying that could apply here.) but was just interesting that George wanted to be 'something more'. It is a real shame that they were not about to make more. I loved Rooney's Lizbeth and really wanted Fincher to continue the story. Loved your reactions

Carl Evans

There are two more films that continue the story. You get even more back story on her life. So far, you've seen just one third of the story. Jump to the Swedish sequels.

David Lonewolf Wright

I forgot how good this film is and now have to rework my David Fincher movie list rankings. I did like the pairing of Lizbeth and Mikael, but she did go into this knowing he was seeing Robin Wright's character... and what he wasn't doing enough of. I really wish this movie had done better as I would have liked to see the continuation under Fincher. The original Sweden movies are good, but I think there were some elements that were probably lost not being from Nordic countries.

Rooster Aleution
>>144892682

A good adaptation of a Norwegian film is Insomnia. All star cast in the American version with Al Pacino, Robin Williams, and Hillary Swank.

Bekka NoyB

♥ this movie! You definitely should check out the Swedish version! Plus the whole trilogy!

Ashton Lewis

Great reaction as always. Just to add, in the books it's established that Robin Wright's character (I forget her name) has an agreement with her husband that she is allowed to sleep around, as he himself is a gay man. They don't explain this in the film which sort of harms Mikaels character a bit

REDR58
>>147984893

It really is a shame that they could not continue the Fincher series. Rooney Mara is simply excellent at Lisbeth (as is Noomi Rapace in her movies!) and it would been a real treat to see her continue in the role. Why it was decided to skip the 2nd and 3rd parts and go into The Girl in the Spider’s Web for the reboot effort is beyond me. Claire Foy is great in her interpretation of Lisbeth but the movie is just so weak and not nearly on the level of any of the others.

HansD

Yes, the sexual relationship between Lisbeth and Mikael must seem to come out of nowhere from your point of view. You guys have an actual dating culture. Us scandies don't really have that. Lisbeth's encounter with the other woman is more representative to how we do things over here; we go out, get drunk, and wake up the next morning with a stranger in our bed. And if we still like them, hungover and messed up, we exchange names and contact info and take it from there. Lisbeth also has some major daddy issues... These days dating apps make the process even less romantic. I'm surprised Fincher didn't rewrite those scenes to better suit North-American sensibilities.

fwfwfwfwf wfwfw

got to be honest, that bedroom recording scene emotionally scar'ed me for a long time. just glad she got her revenge.