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Star Trek: The Original Series 203-204 (Patreon)

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2024-10-30 12:00:09
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Brent bmc_comix

Also if anyone's seen Community...🎶 Evil Troy and Evil Aaaaabed! 🎶:) Lol

Actuarial Lurker

Mirror Mirror is one of the best episodes of TOS. It is "remade" with a 2-part prequel during the later ST series "Enterprise" which in itself is both hilarious while haunting with its black humor and much improved graphics and effects

Theadora

EYEBALLS CAN ABSOLUTELY BE COLD! :-)

Actuarial Lurker

Evil Spock is a Meme rocking the beard that make him look like Satan with the pointy ears...

Actuarial Lurker

Simone: ODO actually IS a changeling. Obviously NOMAD is NOT ODO's race but you will see

Alan Kobb

Wow. That cat is purring very loudly!! You've got a very comfy lap. Back in the 1960s, computers were a foreign thing to most of the audience. Back then a computer was a huge machine that filled up an entire building. Most Americans had never seen a computer, and had no idea what it would look like or do. Intelligent Americans knew that computers could do complex math in seconds, but that was about it. Even the science fiction writers and the producers of Star Trek had probably never seen one. The first mass-market home computers did not hit the markets until 10 years after this episode hit the air, so it's hardly surprising that the creators of this episode and the viewers were not laughing at this episode. At the time, it was probably quite scary. Now, after 57 years, we have friendly computers with names like Alexa and Siri that have pleasant voices and decades of research that went into making the voices seem natural, and as a bonus they don't vaporize you for being imperfect.

Alan Pownall

Yes Simone, Odo is sometimes referred to as a Changling.

Actuarial Lurker

Easter Egg: The photo of Dr. Roykirk , NOMAD's creator is actually the shows director Marc Daniels

Jeffrey Conway

I think that when Bones was said “what is this” when referring to the blood on Kirk’s chin he was asking what caused this and Kirk just gave him a funny reply to let him know that it was nothing to be concerned about.

Actuarial Lurker

In real life when Earth goes into space would we be more like the parallel universe Empire

Spacedone

Simone and George's Singalong Blog...

Brent bmc_comix

Definitely! Idk how they didn't catch that lol :)

Monica Alarcon

That beard on Spock inspires me to start a Prog Rock band somehow...

Joe Concepts

The Changeling has one of those glaring logical plot holes that I feel like current sci-fi wouldn't have. How can Uhura be back to normal if she's just re-learning things, and not getting her memories back? You could argue that doing that did get her memories to return but they don't say that. Another issue like that one is beaming that Air Force pilot "into himself" or whatever it is they did in Tomorrow is Yesterday. He'd just be the current version of himself with all the new memories. Granted, time travel never makes sense...

algi

I wonder if the Empire being so similar to the Federation is a criticism of the Federation. The Federation still has a huge warship in orbit that could just take the dilitium.

mky

Yay! We got a "He's dead, Jim."! Take a drink. 🥳

3dbadboy1

The 60s had a different audience. We didn't want to understand how things were done. We just wanted a happy ending and we didn't care how or why, BOOM. Cut the show some slack, Jack, LOL. It also had to fit in a 53 min, show.

BzzBzzBzzBzzBzz

I would love to hear Simone speaking cockney for four hours straight

Badger

I was expecting Simone and George video to flip back and forth until they are both on the wrong side-and wearing beards.. I want my Cinebinge Mirror Episode!

Kurt Hockenbury

The only way it works with the "memory-wipe" with Uhura is more like temporary amnesia, and she just needs to be reminded of things she already knows, to recover her memories.

Sergio Meira

Has anyone noticed that explicitly sexual, sensual people only exist in the Mirror universe?... The Federation is too PC. Note also that Spock's beard has become kind of a meme (before the word was even invented): I've seen in movies and media the use of this "suddenly wearing a beard means you've turned evil" trope (both Futurama and the Simpsons did parodies of it).

SuicuneSol

On Nomad: I think the monotone depiction of robots was actually kind of essential back in the day in order to sell the illusion. Similar to actors moving like machines (ie. The Terminator, Robocop) to sell the fact that they're robotic. Even Commander Data from TNG doesn't appear robotic, but even he has obvious quirks that show us he's not human, such as his skin/eye color and speaking style. There's no reason for those quirks other than to sell the android character. On Mirror: I'm pretty sure McCoy recognized the blood. It was more of a question of "what happened? rather than what it was.

Sergio Meira

No -- George would be wearing a beard and talking about how to swindle patreon subscribers out of their hard-earned money. Simone would have a bare midriff, and she'd tell him in a sexy voice how much she admires the way he was able to extract the last penny from us suckers. Then both of them would laugh with evil dripping from their voices.

Tsuyama

stooopppp i can only get so turned on

Dee Aitch

Yay! The first appearance of an actual photon torpedo instead of phasers being called photon torpedoes. Mr. Scott is well in his rights to call Nomad a beastie since he almost destroyed the Enterprise. I think it's nutty that they beamed onto the ship a being able to destroy the Enterprise with 5 shots and able to absorb a photon torpedo with no damage. I feel like the monotone speech pattern just developed normally from the limited memory that made all voice patterns just monotone collections of voice prints so that there would be no problems with inflections when piecing words together. I still feel the tiktok fake voice suffers from this problem. Happy to see that "Mirror, Mirror" wasn't spoiled for y'all. Honestly it's surprising there weren't a billion TNG adaptations.

Anthony Villena

The blinking lights and knobs and switches are funny to me. I had to look up when Xerox PARC (inventors of the modern graphical user interface) was founded and it was 1970, a few years after this aired.

gfixler

I got my first computer in 1991, and I got a Sound Blaster sound card, which came bundled with Dr. Sbaitso, a demo, showing off the speech digitization power of the day. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Sbaitso You can play a bit with it online here: https://classicreload.com/dr-sbaitso.html And when you hear it, you'll realize how amazing a voice like Nomad's would have been, even many decades after TOS. It takes me back. I remember for years following along with things like speech-to-text, eventually getting Dragon Naturally Speaking, which was still pretty bad, and also OCR technology, wondering if we'd ever break through these natural language barriers on computers. Now we have Alexa, Siri, ChatGPT and such, and it's still blowing my mind, even though I can rarely get any of those, or Midjourney, to listen to anything I ask of them.

Dee Aitch

I mean Scotty would even be missing several day's worth of memories with the computer recreating him from old cyber scans.

Simone's Coconut Squire

Voice modulators weren't common until the late 80s/early 90s and even those struggled with any kind of inflection. Also, inflection is commonly associated with emotion, so a lack of inflection for robot/computer voices was shorthand for telling an audience that you're dealing with something that has no emotions.

Amos T Fairchild

So Simone hasn't seen any new Star Trek stuff like discovery I assume. Just tng?

Robert Evans

I think a subtlety to Mirror, Mirror is because the Vulcan's never developed their pacifistic nature they never invented the passive neck pinch as a way to avoid overt violence. So evil Spock *couldn't* pinch.

Sergio Meira

Certainly! But because control is the main social currency in the Mirror universe, anything that give you control -- like sensuality -- is a good investment. I wasn't endorsing the Mirror Universe, you see -- just mentioning that, even for the 60's, TOS seems often rather sexless, despite the female uniforms. Perhaps that was Roddenberry, perhaps it was TV rules, perhaps it was the cultural mores at the time.

gfixler

I like how George said "like that mirror in Harry Potter that shows you what you most desire! What was it called?" It was the Mirror of Erised. It's just the word "desire" backwards 😆 You were so close.

gfixler

Yeah, that was the standard way parents asked about injuries. "What is this?" "It's a black eye." "I know it's a black eye. How did you get it?!" I did enjoy how much they enjoyed it, though. 😆

Actuarial Lurker

Even data has spasmodic head motions at times along fixed axes to show his neck is "geared"

Actuarial Lurker

I like FLOX from Enterprise and the Holographic "Doctor" from Voyager and hate Dr. Beshear from DS9

Data Cable

The Vic Perrin double feature. He voiced Nomad, and played the head of the Halkan council. (He also previously voiced the Metron in "Arena," but the humanoid appearance seen at the end was actress Carolyne Barry.)

G Lam

0:02 - In a word....

Alan Kobb

Here's some interesting trivia. The actor who played the leader of the Halkan Council in Mirror Mirror is Vic Perrin, the same actor who did the voice for Nomad in The Changeling. Busy guy. More trivia. At the end of 1966, NBC lifted it's long-held prohibition on showing women's navels, so this episode was just the 2nd Star Trek episode to show a belly button. (Uhura's) Shore Leave in Season 1 showed two navels. Yes, some fans count navels.

Data Cable

Two navels in "Mirror, Mirror" as well. Don't forget Marlena's. And the ones in "Shore Leave" were *technically* covered by decorations color-matched to their costumes (navel pasties?)

Dave Olden

Vic Perrin was also the voice at the beginning of every classic Outer Limits episode that proclaimed “We control the horizontal. We control the vertical …”

AshanDaREW

But then George would have to shave his mustache! Could Simone grow a beard?

Cliff Adams

Mirror, Mirror was aired in early October 1967. As a college freshman, I was invited to a costume Halloween party. I had a beard, easily trimmed to Mirror universe Spock. Trimmed sideburns and eyebrows, donned shirt and fake ears and went. 57 years later my right eyebrow never grew back.

JBK405

George, back in "Errand of Mercy" you said you wanted to see a race of people who truly were so pacifistic that they would accept being conquered rather than participate in violence. The Organians turned out to be powerful energy beings so they were never in any danger at all, but here you finally get it with the Halkans. In both universes they would rather be destroyed than allow their resources to be used for dangerous weapons. They don't have any secret defense, they're not secretly powerful, they just have a 100% commitment to their own principles. "Where NOMAD Has Gone Before". If you know, you know.

Alan Kobb

Yes. Navel gazing. CBS cancelled their ban on navels, and suddenly it opened up a whole wide world of pretty female bellies. Of course this was a practical business decision. This was the late 1960s, and bare midriffs sold everything from pop tarts to beer. Goldie Hawn was dancing in a bikini on Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In on NBC, so just as NASA had to win the space racce against the USSR, Star Trek had to win the ultimate navel race against NBC!!! This was a challenge that the proud crew of the Enterprise was made to win!

Raven Dark

I could be wrong about this, but in the episode Mirror, Mirror, when Bones looked at the blood on Kirk's chin and said, "What's this?" he meant, like, "What happened?" or, "Where'd you get this?" (meaning the punch that caused it). I've heard "What's this?" used as a replacement for "What happened?" in reference to injury before. When Kirk said, "It's called blood," he was being deliberately obtuse to make a joke. He was pretending Bones was asking, "What is this?" as in, "I don't know what that is," because the concept of Bones not knowing what blood is, is funny. Loving these reactions, guys.

Bandaloop

When Marlena Moreau walks out in space lingerie, it's not "oiling my traps darling", it's "fall into my traps, darling".

Theo Bracco

The Changeling Myth is believed to be related to Autism. Babies were fine and then suddendly started growing "unusual" into childhood, and people blamed the Fae for substituting them with a "changeling" who had taken the form of the seemingly normal child. Of course, they grew into "Weird Adults" who acted "funny", or had "accidents" in the woods and never reached adulthood.

Theo Bracco

And Community, (spoilers) with Evil Abed...

Angzarr

And a "I'm a doctor, not an engineer!"

Angzarr

To me Perrin will always be "that guy from Dragnet", because he also turns up in SO many episodes as different characters.

Cally

I have seen speculation that the origin of the Mirror Universe could have been when McCoy saved Edith Keeler's life (in City on the Edge of Forever).

Marcus Hicks

If you liked Mirror, Mirror, then I highly recommend you read Dark Mirror. Its a Mirror Universe title set during ST: TNG. Its excellent.

Honky Tonk Badong Badong

I don't think it's a problem of self-censorship for Simone. When you have a thought, you form the words in your head to convey that thought, then you say the words. I think what happens with Simone is that she has a thought, composes it in her head, but in the middle of saying it she has more thoughts about her thought and her brain tries to re-compose the words for the thought in the middle of her saying the words, but now she has to edit the words she's already said while still editing the words she wants to say, and if it gets bad enough the word-forming bit of her brain just sits down in a heap and gives up. It's like posting a comment, but then you think of a better way of making the point you wanted to make in that comment but you've already posted it so you have to go back and edit the comment before you forget the way you wanted to write it instead but then you go 'screw it' and just delete the comment but someone has already replied to it. Or something.

Angela D. Mitchell

I'm with Bones on this one -- alt-universe Spock with a beard was hot. Also, I was so thrilled at "I'm a doctor, not an engineer!"