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Itbewhatitbe

its amazing how quickly people forget Wednesday use to be just empty with nothing, and that Star Trek began as an extra bonus they decided to do just because.

Tsuyama

yeah now hes gonna pretend like he was just genuinely asking a question that just accidentally sounded sarcastic. and he really IS asking for a friend.

Monica Alarcon

Ah the Medusan. Believe it or not there is a future series with a Medusan main character...

Monica Alarcon

Oh and yes, we've seen Diana Muldaur before in "Return to Tomorrow" where she was possessed by one of the brains in the spheres. And it's not the last time we see her in Star Trek...

Joe Concepts

Fun fact... In the '50s Deforest Kelley appeared in the movie "Gunfight at the OK Corral" as Morgan Earp.

Joe Concepts

My "head canon" with Spectre of the Gun is that Spock knows about the old West because his human mother was interested in it. Or she was interested in history in general. Spock knows some very specific details about this, and it's not like you learn about cowboy shoot outs in history class. And he sure didn't learn about it from his father.

3dbadboy1

Lol there should be a comma after There: Is there, in truth, no beauty? In other words does beauty not exist?

Joe Concepts

I know this is the show about "logic" but George really tries hard to figure out plot holes. The gas grenade didn't work because... reasons.

Gaius Frakking Baltar

3x5 is one of the all-time best episodes of TOS; simply a masterpiece of writing, acting, cinematography, and direction. Speaking of the director, Ralph Senensky has a great post on his blog with some - dare I say it? - fascinating info about the production of the episode. The post also includes a couple of wonderful photos taken in 2010 of the elderly David Frankham (who played Crazy Larry) watching his own 1968 performance on a large wall-mounted TV: https://ralph-senensky.blogspot.com/2010/06/is-there-in-truth-no-beauty-july-1968.html

Mycenaeus

He also played Ike Clanton in an episode of the TV series "You Are There" reenacting the same incident.

Badger

The one title that really short circuits George turned out to be a favorite. Is There in Truth No Beauty? Is one of those episodes I just hated as a kid, but really appreciate now as an adult. That is why watching through these with you two is so fun. Being older and ahem wiser, I see these episodes in such a different light than being a kid, coming home after school and catching them on repeat. So on that IDIC Medallion: Gene Roddenberry created the Vulcan pendant Spock wore in Is There in Truth No Beauty? because he wanted to sell it to fans. It was a commercial, rather than a creative, decision. Leonard Nimoy wrote in I am Spock: The term (IDIC) stands for Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations…and I was all in favor of the philosophy…but not the fact that Gene wanted me to wear the medallion because he wanted to sell them through his mail-order business Lincoln Enterprises. Nimoy and William Shatner even staged a short walk-out protest during filming, but eventually Roddenberry got his way.

3dbadboy1

The grenade didn't work because Kirk was convinced it wouldn't. Nothing up to then had worked the way they wanted. As for the rest of them, the didn't believe it either, just on a subconscious level.

Actuarial Lurker

Is There In Truth No Beauty? can be read in BOTH directions, but only with commas. Is There, in truth, no Beauty... asks 1) if there really isn't anything Beautiful in this world- very Hobbesian outlook. OR 2) is the Truth always ugly? i.e. there no Beauty contained as a subset within the set of True things....

Actuarial Lurker

Yes that was an influencer style Merch pitch for Spock jewelry...and from Oct 1968 no less

Theo Bracco

There's a series of short stories with a race of beings named "Dunwillians" because they remind humans of "Eldritch" or "Lovecraftian" horrors that cause madness not just in humans but also in other races. And the humans befriend them by putting funny hats on them, you know, beanies, helicopter hats, even sombreros or cowboy hats, you know, for the lulz.

Actuarial Lurker

Roddenberry pitched the series to executives as "Wagon Train in Space"....ie. a Western where each week the crew would meet new people and have new interactions....so not surprising to have an Old West style plot. BUT when you think more about it- the cheap smoke effects and few sets suggest that this was more of a bottle spade to keep production costs down after the show was canceled after Season 2 and then only brought back under fan protest

Perry Campbell

Nice reaction 😀 I loved the western Star Trek. Kinda knew u guys wouldn’t like it as much. Wich is cool. 😎 George big brainy guy and not many girls like western stuff. Unless they from Texas 😂

JFC

I'm going to be vague, and I'm posting it now so it isn't obvious when it's coming up: There's something that happens in a season 3 episode that was a first on American television, and was a groundbreaking statement at the time. The scene was even reshot another way to be less controversial, but Shatner deliberately looked directly into the camera with his eyes crossed, so the alternate take would be unusable. Keep an eye out for it.

Skyruff Creative

The lack of reference to other episodes was a requirement put on the series by the studio. It was a very common requirement at that time that shows be able to platy in almost any order and not be confusing to audiences. This happened mostly as a measure that allowed preemptions, episode reordering, reruns, and syndication to happen without causing issues.

Simon Pegged Me

During the Star Trek theme for the reaction to "Is There In Truth No Beauty," Simone's accompaniment sounded like a duck quacking, which I found funny, not only because quacking the theme song was funny in itself, but also and more so because it reminded me of the song Psycho Chicken, the parody of Psycho Killer, the Talking Head song. Audiences use to cluck along to it Psycho Chicken, qu'est-ce que c'est? Bock, bock, bock, boccck, bock, bock, bock, bock, boccck, bock... "* Yes, this is the level of discourse I want to associate with my name in the Comments section. We can't all be intelligent, insightful, and knowledgeable of Star Trek lore. That said, I was interested in who wrote this episode, and looked it up. The writer was a woman, Jean Lisette Aroeste. She wasn't a writer by trade, though. She was a librarian (a very good one: she worked for UCLA, Harvard, and Princeton). "Is there in Truth No Beauty" was an unsolicited script that found its way into the hands of the show's producers. She wrote another script that they also used, and never wrote anything else for television. I find that funny, too—funny strange in this case, not funny ha-ha. * Thanks for the pang of nostalgia, Simone. Your quacking really took me back.

Eversharpe

We actually see a bit of that with the Stardates sometimes being out of "order" in TOS, even if they aren't an actual measure as in later Trek series.

Alan Kobb

Interestingly, the writer of Is there in Truth No Beauty was first-time television writer, Jean Lisette Aroeste, a librarian and "Trekkie", who submitted an unsolicited script that caught the eye of Co-Producer Robert Justman. Her writing career consists of just two Star Trek 3rd season episodes that together are probably the best of the 3rd season. Diana Muldur was in the 2nd Season's Return to Tomorrow as Dr. Diane Muldur and is in TNG as Dr. Pulaski, so a trifecta of doctors. I think first contact with the Medusans probably was not a planetary visit, but possibly a meeting of space vessels and some form of electronic communications. Alternately, since it's been established that some species are immune to their causing of Human insanity, the first meeting might have been through a 3rd party.

Alan Kobb

I also have little to say about Spectre of a Gun. It's not the worst episode, and it's far from the best, but overall, it leaves me empty. Including all the Star Trek series, the concept has been repeated dozens of times. Enterprise meets powerful and apparrently hostile aliens. Aliens put the Enterprise into a shoot-or-don't-shoot situation. Enterprise doesn't shoot and in the last scene the aliens say "You passed the test, you can be our friends now." I'm not against that type of episode, but there is a very short distance between genuinely suprising ending and crap. The Corbomite Maneuver, Devil in the Dark and Arena all tell the same basic tale in a much more compelling fashion. The ending of this episode is just deus ex machina.

MacGuffinStuff

When Kirk says, "We, overcame, our instinct for violence...." If only. But I have hope. Anyway episode 5 was seriously amazing, I was very impressed by that writing and I had never seen either episode. How the hell did this show get cancelled after this season? Then again Firefly got cancelled after one, and Rome, they had to rush the story for season 2.

MacGuffinStuff

I thought she sounded like a chicken and I started bwock bwocking along.

Simon Pegged Me

I love Rome. Pullo and Vorenus are the original dynamic duo.

Simon Pegged Me

Right?! One of my favorite TV writers, Jane Espenson (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Gilmore Girls, Battlestar Galactica, Firefly, Star Trek: DS9, et al) submitted several spec scripts to Star Trek: The Next Generation when she was first starting out. Next Gen had a formal program for spec scripts for first time writers. I agree with you: I hope that program is still a part of the franchise.

Sergio Meira

"Is There In Truth No Beauty" is all capitalized not only because of episode title conventions, but also because it's actually a line from a 17th-century poem titled "Jordan" by G. Herbert (see link: https://www.ccel.org/h/herbert/temple/Jordan1.html). The idea of the poem is that people often confused 'false' or 'pretend' stuff with real beauty: they fell for false hair or false teeth, as if "there is in truth no beauty". The author disagrees and thinks that in the real truth (= reality, actual life), even without the pretty wigs and false teeth, there is real beauty, beauty which is perhaps not so flashy as what you get with artificial means, but truer beauty nonetheless. In the episode, I think this refers to the Medusans being 'in truth' very beautiful (their thought patterns were very deep, wise, and intricate), despite their madness-inducing outer appearance. Also the question of whether jealousy ('Spock melded with this Medusan before me!') isn't like a hidden ugliness inside that may escape the eye because of superficial beauty of the person, but still is ugly. So what's better: outside beauty, or inside beauty? :-)

Sergio Meira

And the really big question of Ep. 05, in everybody's mind: Are the Medusans too hideous to look at.... or too beautiful to gaze upon?

BzzBzzBzzBzzBzz

Quak out that intro song Simone. Fantastic!! I love your every rendition. Keep it up

danzthename

I love both of these episodes, especially "Is There in Truth No Beauty". If you go back and rewatch Miranda's interactions with people, you can see that her gaze and eye contact never look quite natural. It's a beautifully written, acted, and directed episode. Spectre of the Gun always mesmerized me when I was a little kid because of the set and the creepy red sky. It has this sort of dream-like quality that I like. Personally, I think Season 3 is underrated.

Patrick - Excelsior

"Is There in Truth No Beauty" Great episode but there is an inconsistency. At the end Spock puts on the goggles to beam Kollos down (I assume because the container might become transparent while beaming. But Kirk was standing there looking at the transporter while beaming, even though he is human and had no visor.