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Mario

The full version has no audio for the movie

Jedi Lounger

No movie sound on the no copy needed version. You guys are fine.

theycallmekev

Oh no, the movie sound is cut off for the no copy needed version :/

Lone Desert Bones

Narrative, evaluative, and analytical, for sure, probably more incomplete if I’m not aware of it. Sometimes if I’m keenly aware of my inner monologue, I’ll change the voice into Morgan Freeman or Sean Connery for shits and giggles.

Cinebinge

ah, setting mistake. exporting new version now.

Luna Seydoux

There is no audio of movie on the no synch version.

Jeff K.

Competent People Doing Things Competently: The Movie

Lone Desert Bones

Also regarding the apple, I don’t need to close my eyes, and I can put it into my physical space for reference. So I pictured it next to me on the couch.

Happy Hanukkah

*All* of them?! I'll have to postpone watching this until I have much more time.

Hasan Ahmad

Georgr right now: “f**** it , we’ll do it live”

Jay Davis

This is where my ridiculous overspending on vast quantities of movies on Amazon over the years comes into play so I don't hafta delay my gratification on this reaction I intended all week to instantly binge!

Data Cable

Some time ago, I was trying to think of the names "Statler & Waldorf," but my brain, for some reason, defaulted to "Woodward & Bernstein." From that moment on, I've wanted a Muppet remake of this flick, with that exact casting. (Sam the eagle as Nixon?)

Brandon

I think I have every version of those inner monologues in my head at different times. It still blows me away that some people don't have one at all. In a weird way, it's a big part of my identity. I would not have imagined that they didn't even know this movie was about Nixon/Watergate. They thought it was about JFK... so I think they should watch JFK. As compelling as the movie is, you need to take it with a massive brick of salt.

Kyle Baker

The guy you recognize at the desk is from 12 angry men, as is also the other guy in the room with Redford.

Fritz

There seems to a slight difference between the digital version you are watching and the DVD. I actually own the movie, but it keeps going out of sync for some reason :(

mpd

I can't tell what surface I'm walking on just from the feeling in my foot, I need to bend down and lick the ground

kelvin

There was plenty of source materials available between all the articles and the book they wrote that probably made getting the film out soon more possible.

michael denny

crazy how watergate ended a presidency and meanwhile in 2026........sometimes I really hate reality.

SnabbKassa

I know ATPM seems slow and ponderous to gen Z, but I like this type of pacing of movie. The lingering shots and zoom outs with the music do give a sense of menace. Two guys against a mostly indifferent world. The two editors above "Woodstein" were both in 12 Angry Men. Ken H. Dahlberg had not done anything wrong, and his neighbour's wife really had been kidnapped, in real life, not just in the movie. He wasn't making that up. All the names of characters in the movie are historically accurate. Now that you have watched this, one or both of you should watch Sideshow Bob Roberts again and notice all the homages. Simpsons Season 6, Episode 5 The real article they wrote on Mitchell is still up on WaPo, but paywalled like everything else. You can read it here https://archive.ph/Kvn2c You should watch Frost/Nixon soon as it shows the aftermath, and goes into his attitude to Haldeman and Ehrlichmann.

Pk

I was going to suggest the Last Castle & Spy Game, when I saw this coming up, thinking about other good Redford movies... Not related, but Space Cowboys and maybe The Saint also...

REDR58

One can argue that because Nixon was not imprisoned and simply lost the presidency we are where we are now.

Jonathan Eaton

I can't wait for the scene where Forrest Gump reports the break-in.

newhastings

It’s not referenced here but John Mitchell is such a piece of shit. His wife Martha attempted to leak his involvement in Watergate to a reporter and in retaliation he had his men kidnap her and drug her with tranquilizers. She ended up testifying in 1973 against Mitchell. Obviously the movie is focused on Woodstein’s reporting but I wish more people were made more aware of Martha Mitchell.

Jeff K.

If we're going for Redford movies, especially if they decide to check out more from that era that have a similar political thriller vibe, I'd go with Three Days of the Condor. And I'll keep banging the drum for them to watch The Sting, which is high on my list of favorite movies.

James MacDonald

If you want another journalism movie in this type of vein, I'd recommend "Shattered Glass". It's a true story about the investigation into a journalist who routinely fabricated stories for The New Republic. One of my favourite movies, and no one ever reacts to it.

Brandon

"The Martha Mitchell Effect" was a great documentary about her released back in 2022. They actually treated her like she was insane and kept her in hotel room as a makeshift prisoner for at least a month, if I remember correctly. I don't think much of this was known back when All the President's Men was made, though.

Maiki

Follow-up movies: Ron Howards Frost/Nixon (2008) with a fantastic Frank Langella as Nixon, rest of the cast is amazing as well. Spielbergs The Post (2017) with Tom Hanks as Ben Bradlee, also Meryl Streep as the publisher of the Washington Post.

Brandon

Yep, the code name for Deep Throat by Howard Simmons at The Washington Post did indeed come from the porn film. Ang Lee's film 'The Ice Storm' has a scene where people are talking casually about the film at a dinner party as if it's a normal subject like the weather. The movie was so ingrained in American pop culture that it was nearly inescapable even in small talk. There's also a biopic about Linda Lovelace called 'Lovelace' starring Amanda Seyfried. She was... not treated well, to say the least. Mark Felt revealed himself as Deep Throat in an interview with Vanity Fair in 2005 when he was 91. Felt worked for the FBI for over 30 years and was Deputy Director at the time when he was leaking information to Bob Woodward. At one point when Bernstein is talking to someone from the FBI, the guy even says that their reporting has been practically verbatim with the FBI's own documentation about Watergate. Now we know why. Felt's motives are said to be partly political, patriotic... and personal. He was passed over for the position of Director more than once, if I remember correctly. He resigned in 1973 and some say that his resignation alone was an admission of guilt about the leaks within the intelligence community, which he denied at the time. The Simpsons episode 'Sideshow Bob Roberts' has a scene that parodies the parking garage meetings with Felt. Smithers is leaking information to Bart and Lisa about the corrupt way that Sideshow Bob was elected as the mayor of Springfield. He's hiding in the shadows and suddenly Homer's headlights reveal his face clearly, since Bart and Lisa used him for a ride to the meeting. As a side note, that episode is one of the main reasons that I've never been able to take Republicans seriously in my entire life, starting from childhood. Felt himself was convicted in 1980 for authorizing illegal break-ins of the homes of members of the Weather Underground militant political group during the early 70's, as well as people who simply knew members of the group. He ended up being pardoned by Reagan in 1981 who said that Felt was acting on good principle.

Brandon

Great movie and proof that Hayden Christensen is a much better actor when not working for George Lucas. 🤣

Prince Mora

It was playing at the AMC and I brought nephew to see it since he's obsessed with this era of history. Its his comfort movie now 🍿

Brad Lowry

In "All the President's Men", and so many other films, there are actors who have roles who earlier were part of the amazing Ensemble Cast of "12 Angry Men". In this case two actors 19 years older, played older editors in the meetings of editors. Martin Balasm who played one of the older editors in their meetings, he played the Jury Forman (#1) who later had that nice monologue about coaching a Football team. You also saw him as the short-lived Private Detective in "Psycho". Also, The older editor that championed for Woodward and Bernstein early on is Jack Warden, and in "12 Angry Men" he played the unserious Juror (#7) with baseball tickets. A good reminders that talented actors can play unlikable characters really well... indeed, of the movies I remember him OTHER than "12 Angry Men" he plays a lovable older second Banana – "Heaven Can Wait" comes to mind.

Richard Pearce

If you can get access to BBC iPlayer there is a 5 part documentary series that's pretty good just called Watergate.

Brad Lowry

I am proud to be obsessive enough about this to have experienced the glitch Live... Don't forget that this has you sufficiently versed in the facts of Watergate that you can get most of the humor in the Watergate spoof, "Dick", with an early credit for Ryan Reynolds and other Canadian cast members, in particular from "Kids in the Hall" YaY!

Jpsynergy

Peak Robert Redford here. Incredible movie.

Brad Lowry

And Hank Azaria in a serious role. Also... and it's usually a tip-off that it's a good film... Chloe Sevigny is in the cast. (you know her as Jake Gyllenhaal's wife in "Zodiac")

Brad Lowry

Another nice touch was having "Gerald Ford" (at that time just and ex-football-player Cangressman from Michigan) giving the 1972 GOP Nomination Speech for Nixon.

james repka

I wholeheartedly endorse this recommendation!

ChiefKC

For a good JFK movie, the watch "JFK" with Kevin Costner.

Hans Maurer

Since you've seen this one, you can now watch Dick (1999) and get all the references.

Brad Lowry

Called "Thirteen Days", two recurring cast members from "The Good Wife" (for Simone): the aging partner in TGW is the historically hawkish general, and Dylan Baker standing up to the Admiral is Amazing!

SbE

I have no auditory inner monologue nor any kind of mind's eye with an actual image, except dreams (if they're counted as a type of this). I'm 42 and until quite recently I didn't understand when people talked about these concepts that they were meant literally. Mind blown

Ian West

All The Presidents Muppets.

Tom Hess

Simone - Anything you can think of, you know what it would feel like to lick it. Me - Why is it so hot in here all of a sudden?

Jamie

FYI The guy who played Sloane also played Will Decker in ST: The Motion Picture

JoeE

Screenplay by William Goldman, who wrote book and screenplay for princess bride

ChiefKC

'Thirteen Days is outstanding as well. Again with Kevin Costner and also Bruce Greenwood.

james repka

Recommending the 2022 mini-series Gaslit starring Julia Roberts and Sean Penn as Martha & John Mitchell.

james repka

Absolutely yes on both of those recommendations!

thomas king

Glad most people didn't react to this thread.

REDR58

Stephen Collins.

REDR58

Yes especially to Three Days of the Condor, one of my favorite movies.

REDR58

In the opening credits, shortly before the security guard finds the tampered lock, on the screen it says "Based on the book by Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward."

michael denny

If anything just goes to be an example of accountability continues to be the big lie.

Jeff K.

Annnnnd let's all agree to not google anything he's been up to in the last decade or two...

Brandon

Jeff K, I was just about to suggest the same thing. 😆

Jeff K.

Seeing Jason Robards (Ben Bradlee) just reminds me, I reeeeeeeally wanna see you guys check out the movie Parenthood. Such a loaded cast, and he's fantastic in it. Also, Ben Bradlee is one of the most legendary newspaper editors in American history, and not just because of Watergate.

ChiefKC

The incident led to the US having it's first and only president that was never elected to the VP or Presidency.

Jeff K.

I think it'd be fun for them to check out Three Days of the Condor in part because it would also give them a better understanding of how the hell Redford ended up in Winter Soldier, since Three Days was one of the biggest influences on that film so it made all the sense in the world to get him in the MCU in that particular story.

OddThomas

Other good President-related movies: In the Line of Fire, JFK, The American President, Thirteen Days, Jackie

Jonathan Eaton

For more Hal Holbrook (Deep Throat) The Firm(1993) Thriller/Mystery

OddThomas

The Natural is probably my favourite Robert Redford movie. George in particular will love that movie, for reasons.

REDR58

The security guard, Frank Wills, who discovered the tampered door lock is played by the real Frank Wills, who discovered the break-in. Sadly, he had a difficult life after the events of the real scandal and appearance in the movie and died aged 52: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Wills_(security_guard) The first undercover policeman (based on the real-life Paul W. Leeper) in the car that speaks is played by F. Murray Abraham who portrayed Antonio Salieri in "Amadeus." He shouts "Police! Put your hands up!" when seeing the burglars. "(202) 456-1414" is a real White House phone number. The interior of "The Washington Post" was based on the real location and a highly-detailed and accurate set was built. The references to Teddy (Ted) Kennedy and "Chappaquiddick" refer to a real incident where a car driven by Senator Ted Kennedy drove off a bridge in 1969 resulting in the death of Mary Jo Kopechne, a campaign worker for the senator's brother, Robert. Ted Kennedy failed to inform the police and it was something of a scandal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident The "Opera House" is the "Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts," currently defaced with the name of a 34-time felon... Hal Holbrook, who portrayed "Deep Throat" is famous for playing Mark Twain in "Mark Twain Tonight!" for a number of years: www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_rTMNnxwSE Yes Simone, "Who's Who in America" is real and has been around since 1898: marquiswhoswho.com Notice how REAL televisions are used in the movie and look so much better than what we recently saw in "X" and "Stranger Things" and a number of other shows and movies set in the era of CRTs. Fans of the "Family Ties" series should recognize Meredith Baxter as "Elyse" from "Family Ties" with Michael J. Fox: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip1szfz9nZ8

Jonathan Eaton

For More Jason Robards (Ben Bradlee) Max Dugan Returns (1983) Comedy/Drama

Jonathan Eaton

Did anyone notice that Junior Soprano (Dominic Chianese) is in the movie? @26:22, he was one of the guys breaking in.

Darren Harrison

I was an Assistant Managing Editor at The Washington Post Company from 2004 to 2008, and one of my duties was to train the reporters who reported to me. One Christmas, I screened this movie as part of their regular training because so much of it is dead-accurate on newsroom operations.

OddThomas

For more Jason Robards: Magnolia

REDR58

Yes! Good eye.

REDR58

The late Nicolas Coster, who played Markham the lawyer at the opening courtroom scene, portrayed Admiral Anthony Haftel, the Starfleet officer in the TNG episode "The Offspring" who wanted to take Data's child Lal, to Starfleet for study.

REDR58

And that was Ned Beatty, who played Otis in Superman and Superman II, as Martin Dardis who Bernstein had such trouble getting a meeting with in Miami.

REDR58

Simone and George, be sure to check out “The Post” (2017) with Tom Hanks and Meryl Streep. Streep portrays Katherine Graham, who was mentioned in “All the President’s Men.” She was the publisher of the Washington Post between 1963 to 1991. “The Post” concerns the publishing of the “Pentagon Papers” which proceeds the events of “All the Presidents Men.” While there’s no direct connection between the production of both films, they are essentially a prequel and sequel to each other.

james repka

Worth noting that in 1977 this movie was part of the heaviest line up of Best Picture nominees in Academy history: Rocky (winner) All the President's Men Bound for Glory Taxi Driver Network

Nesbit

Internal Monologue, I never have a "voice" in my head. Sometimes I think in sentences, but it's not like I'm hearing a voice. the apple test I see an image where I'm holding a granny smith in a grocery store. I watch a twitch streamer who can't imagine things in her head at all. Sometimes I feel sympathetic pain in my legs when I view certain depictions of pain.

Jason Dreibeblis

Ok the internal monologue stuff is so fascinating. I’m the kind that can just picture stuff with my eyes open. Like when you said close your eyes, I did, and I pictured the apple against a background of nothing. But if you say picture an apple and I don’t close my eyes, I see it on the counter in my kitchen, I can see the texture of it, and I can taste it. I also have the narrative internal monologue, the analytical one, and the day dreaming one. And I can do both, depending I sometimes think in sentences and sometimes I think in images. I sculpt and paint, so I often picture what the finished product will look like as I’m doing it. And before I’ve done anything I can visually see techniques for molding the clay or blending the colors of paint. But for my narrative monologue I generally think in words, and not necessarily in fragments or sentences but like, I think in specifically the way I speak.

Chris H.

Great reaction! Glad you folks did this as well as Argo from that poll. :) Deep Throat -- Mark Felt -- was not acting nobly. He'd been the 2nd-in-command at the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover, and when Hoover died in 1972, Felt thought he was the obvious pick to take over. Nixon had no intention of installing a career FBI guy as the top man, however, and wanted his "own guy" running the Bureau. Felt was pissed about it, and that motivated him to start helping Bob Woodward out. (He'd met Woodward a few years before and then used Woodward so the FBI could get the word out that the man who shot George Wallace was legit crazy and wasn't a political assassin.) Also: while Deep Throat's identity was a secret to the public for years, the Nixon inner circle guessed who was leaking to the Post almost right away. Just a week or so after the first Deep Throat-assisted story appeared on Watergate, Haldeman and Nixon both agreed that it had to be Felt who was leaking. They immediately cauterized him and cut him out from any further info or dealings with the Watergate investigation from that point forward.

MacGuffinStuff

I do have I guess the more common type of internal monologue but it varies with situation etc. but what's funny to me is I also have this motivational version that kicks in from time to time, and it's basically a Drill Sergeant. My dad told me he still has the same thing, we were both in the Army. In my case it's really my voice but as if I was a DS, not yelling but pretty stern, cusses a lot. For instance this morning, I was very tired, have not gotten much sleep this week and had to get up extra early today, back is aching, I'm counting how much sick time I have, then, the voice: "Get your whiny ass out of bed and get moving. NOW." With some grunting, I'm up and going. Sometimes I'll even answer out loud, "Okay okay."

Steve Mercier

"You know the results of the latest Gallup Poll? Half the country never even heard of the word Watergate. Nobody gives a shit. You guys are probably pretty tired, right? Well, you should be. Go on home, get a nice hot bath. Rest up--fifteen minutes. Then get your asses back in gear. We're under a lot of pressure, you know, and you put us there. Nothing's riding on this except the, uh, first amendment to the Constitution, freedom of the press, and maybe the future of the country. Not that any of that matters. But if you guys fuck up again, I'm going to get mad. Goodnight."

JayF

Jason Robards who played Ben Bradlee won an Oscar for Best Supporting Actor for his role in this movie. As you mentioned liking his portrayal I'll mention for you that he was in the movie Parenthood (1989) with Steve Martin. A comedy with a loaded cast that you should definitely check out.

REDR58

The best way I can describe my internal monologue is a “soundless voice.” Or thinking in general, what do your thoughts sound like? Very hard to describe.

Matt O'Keefe

I do not know what more to suggest for Hoffman and Redford. There are a lot.

PIG

The Insider next? :)

John

Dave and The Man as well

MacGuffinStuff

This was THE movie about investigative journalism for like a whole generation and a half, I've always had so much respect for those harcore truth seekers. Lot of people hate them, some of them are presidents. Once when I was in college I signed up for an investigative journalism class, the first day first assignment was to interview random people on the Ring Road (UC Irvine) about some controversial topic in the news at the time, can't remember which; that was the day I realized I could never be an investigative journalist, I forgot or just didn't appreciate that whole, ya know, "talking to people" aspect of the job. Plus I had four other classes and a full time job and had to commute through LA/OC traffic to get to school, yeah, there ended that fantasy 😆

Lana Gorgeous

You absolutely must watch The Post, with Tom Hanks and Meryl Streep. It is like a prequel to this movie and an excellent movie. I don't want to give mush away, but you guys would love this movie.

Alex Leach

Editor Ben Bradlee was a good friend of John F Kennedy and often dined at the White House during his presidency. His son Ben Bradlee Jr worked at the Boston Globe and was portrayed by John Slattery in the film ‘Spotlight’ (2015).

James Keller

Loved your reaction. This is an all time classic film of journalism. If your curious, you should check out the unofficial prequel "The Post" starring Tom Hanks and Meryl Streep.

Twiska Brand

The code name Deep Throat, which *was* a reference to the Lovelace movie, was chosen *specifically* so he couldn't be used as a source, because no newspaper would print that infamous, lewd title and sexual act.

Juley

I’ve been waiting so long for Parenthood!

Simon Pegged Me

My inner monologue is Emma Thompson narrating my every thought and action and her plans for me. I think she's going to kill me. Simone, those old manual typewriters were hell, but those electric typewriters, particularly the IBM Selectric, were heaven. With the Selectric, you hardly had to touch a key to get it to type the letter with one of the most satisfying "THUNK" you've felt or heard, such a sensuous experience. Carl Bernstein walking down a suburban street in Virginia: “It's hard to believe anything bad ever happens here.” Woodward: “No, it isn't.” That's my favorite exchange. Speaking of Bernstein, he was married to Nora Ephron, screenwriter of such classic movies as Silkwood, When Harry Met Sally, You've Got Mail, and Heartburn. Heartburn is the story of her life with Bernstein; in it, Nora is portrayed by Meryl Streep, and Carl is portrayed by Jack Nicholson.

zona999

Hey, George and Simone, a great bit of trivia is that the Ben Bradlee in this film, the Ed in Chief of the Washington Post during Watergate had a son, Ben Bradlee Jr, who was an editor at the Boston Globe during their investigation of the Catholic church and was featured in the film Spotlight played by John Slattery.

Jacob King

The bit where Woodward says he’s a republican, he’s being serious. He knew deep throat socially. Basically he was leveraging his connections in the party and that world to get information that other journalists wouldn’t have access to. Obviously, that’s his job as a journalist but I remember when deep throat’s identity was revealed a lot of the immediate reaction was this isn’t as heroic as it appeared in 1974 and there was some grubby interpersonal stuff going on under the surface. All the Nixon guys were deeply weird and paranoid and, arguably, if they’d been slightly grounded they’d have realised all of the dirty tricks and the break in were unnecessary. The democrats were never going to win. The problem is sensible people don’t want to be president.

Honky Tonk Badong Badong

Imagine if history had gone differently. What if the Leader of the Free World thought he was above the law and Congress and the Supreme Court just went, "Okay, sure." Imagine what the world would have been like.

SANAMDEEP

is cowboy bebop supposed to be uploaded today?

Cinebinge

correct, all anime is uploaded on Patreon at 11 am Eastern Standard Time, every Monday and Friday.

rictus grin

there is a fun black comedy TV series about the guys that did the break in called White House Plumbers well worth a watch

REDR58

That’s crazy talk! That could never happen.

REDR58

In my last years of grade school at the end of the 1980s, my dad would bring home his electric typewriter from work. This way I could have papers typed out for me for school. The thing was very heavy and very bulky.

Tyler Foster

As others have mentioned, you saw Woodward and Bernstein's two closer editors, played by Martin Balsam and Jack Warden, in 12 Angry Men. Balsam talks to Henry Fonda at the window about coaching a sports team and Warden is the guy who wants to leave to go to the baseball game. George uses a certain term for the shots in the film with two fields of focus that is probably accurate in some technical sense, but as far as filmmaking goes, the correct term is "split diopter," which refers to a piece of glass that is placed over the lens so that the focus planes are done in-camera. If you want to see some more incredible split diopter shots, I recommend director Brian De Palma's incredible conspiracy thriller Blow Out (1981), which honestly feels very much inspired by the cultural paranoia that would have arisen from stuff like the Watergate scandal. Also, speaking of which, I had never thought of it before, but I think the real reason the movie ends where it does is hinted at in what Ben Bradlee tells them in the final scene before the movie ends: half the country hasn't even heard of the word "Watergate." Everything that gets reported after that scene in the little epilogue, that's the stuff that the country would've been paying attention to, because they'd have been reading it in the paper and watching it on television. The investigation leading up to that part, before anyone knew what was going on, is not only more dramatic, but it's more likely to be the part the public has no awareness of. Was not surprised to see others also bring up The Insider (1999), another of my all-time favorite journalism movies, directed by Michael Mann (Heat) and starring Al Pacino and Russell Crowe (the latter of whom I think gives his best performance in the film; while I like Gladiator, I have always thought of his win as a "make-up" Oscar for The Insider from the year before). However, I was impressed that someone else also brought up Shattered Glass (2005), which completes my top 3 for great journalism pictures. That one is far more obscure compared to AtPM and Insider (or The Post or Spotlight, also mentioned in the thread, and of course, the latter already covered by you guys). If you ever do watch Shattered Glass and enjoy it, it has an excellent bonus feature on US DVD and Australian region-free Blu-ray, which is an audio commentary by the director and one of the journalists actually involved with the events of the film, who is portrayed in the movie (Charles Lane). The most obvious recommendations for Redford would be the pair of films he made with Paul Newman, both of which are kind of shocking as films that have not yet made it to the channel: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969) and The Sting (1973). The former was also written by William Goldman, who adapted Woodward and Bernstein's book for AtPM, both were directed by George Roy Hill, and both are great for different reasons. Another really fun Redford movie that reteams him with Goldman would be The Hot Rock (1972). For Hoffman, as others have mentioned, The Graduate (1967) was the movie that made him a star. Funny story: The Graduate actually represents an earlier crossroads of Redford and Hoffman. Redford auditioned for the lead role in The Graduate, an incredibly awkward young man -- in Nichols' words, "a loser." Director Mike Nichols told Redford he was wrong for the part, and Redford wanted to know why. Nichols asked Redford: "Have you ever struck out with a girl?" and Redford replied, confused, "What do you mean?" Also, for another movie that gains a certain level of...I guess, brazenness or panache or whatever you want to call it from being so timely, I recommend the (admittedly fictional, but still ballsy) Ernst Lubitsch movie To Be or Not to Be (1942). It's one thing to satirize and skewer Nazis and Hitler, it's another thing to do it in 1942. Last but not least, I will repeat what I said on the schedule post, which is that you should follow this up with the great and underrated comedy Dick (1999). There are a bunch of little gags in that movie that are direct references to this and which may be funnier if you watch them closer together.

Seth's Coffee Cup Ambush

This is such a great movie, I’ve been hoping for a reaction to this one for a while. This is one of three movies in Alan Pakula’s paranoia trilogy. The other two are Klute (1971) and The Parallax View (1974) and they are really good and definitely worth checking out too. There were a lot of great paranoid thrillers in the 70s like these and The Conversation (1974) and Three Days of The Condor (1975) (also with Robert Redford).

Seth's Coffee Cup Ambush

For another great Jason Robards (Ben Bradlee) role, see Once Upon a Time in the West (1968). One of the greatest westerns and another Sergio Leone masterpiece following The Good The Bad and The Ugly.

Mycenaeus

"The Great Waldo Pepper" (1975) is another great movie starring Robert Redford.

TC53

Great reactions!!!! I’ve been waiting for this to drop. You caught a lot that others missed. Great film, you guys are awesome!!

bdennis2004

I like that Ben Bradlee's son (Ben Bradlee, Jr.) was at the Boston Globe and featured in the movie Spotlight.

Com1xguy

Is now the time to add The Newsroom to some show polls?

zona999

My god, YES!!!!!

zona999

Completely forgot about that film. So good.

Simon Pegged Me

Same: when his company upgraded, my dad took the opportunity to claim one of the outgoing typewriters for me. I used it throughout high school, but needed to make a change when it came time for college. Never a problem on my desk at home, the heft and size were impractical for a student who needed to move back and forth between his dorm and the library. So, I said hello to a portable Smith Corona and learned to tolerate the keys banging and sticking to each other when I got into a typing groove. I miss typewriters sometimes, and I can understand why Tom Hanks collects and uses them for his personal correspondence. (Just throwing that out there as a fun fact.)

Angela D. Mitchell

Now that you've watched this, it would be great to see you react to more from Pakula, Hoffman, and Redford, like: Klute, Tootsie, Sophie's Choice, Kramer vs. Kramer, The Graduate, Butch Cassidy, The Sting, Out of Africa, The Natural, and some of Redford's superb directorial work -- Ordinary People, Quiz Show, A River Runs Through It, etc. This whole period includes so many amazing movies for y'all to enjoy. It was kind of poignant to see how much you guys reveled in this movie's basic, quiet cinematic competence. It's such a great example of Pakula's directorial approach -- very much rooted in a cinema verite feel -- it looks and feels casual, with moments being caught on camera, but it's also such beautiful, crafted, meticulous filmmaking from every aspect. I agree with Simone that Dustin Hoffman is wonderful, but I also feel like Robert Redford tends to be overlooked for exactly the kind of subtle work he did here -- he manages to convey Bob's innate charm, tactfulness, and honesty. I love the intro scene where he reads Carl's edits, admits they're better, then quietly calls him out on the way he chose to handle it. Redford is such a good actor and he's never showy about it. He just does the work. The supporting cast is an embarrassment of riches -- Jack Warden, Jason Robards, Jane Alexander, Hal Holbrook, Ned Beatty, Meredith Baxter, Lindsay Crouse, Polly Holliday, Stephen Collins (ugh as a person, but a good actor) and so many more! You can also catch F. Murray Abraham (Salieri in Amadeus) and Dominic Chianese (Junior on The Sopranos) in very early roles.

REDR58

All great choices. I think they would enjoy Quiz Show (1994) in particular.

REDR58

I still have my father’s Olympia SM 3 manual typewriter that he used when he started working in insurance in the early 1970s. It was made in West Germany and I even found a price tag inside the bottom of the case that shows $168 I think. https://typewriterreview.com/2013/02/28/olympia-sm3/ Unfortunately, some of its keys are a little jammed up, so I have to figure out how to fix that. Did you know that Tom Hanks collects vintage typewriters? https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/oct/26/tom-hanks-hails-edinburgh-bookseller-hero-for-his-dedication-to-typewriters

ChiefKC

Gerald Ford. He promoted to the Vice President because he was Speaker of the House when Spiro Agnew had to resign. Then when Nixon resigned, he the advances to the presidency.

Simon Pegged Me

That Olympia SM 3 is beautiful, and the description on the Typewriter is too: “...a reassuring clicking sound is made, like loading a weapon for words.” Whoever wrote that entry to the Typewriter Review gets it.

Salleban

You should watch JFK from 1991.

pinkdino99

This makes the GOP's strategy of lying about everything all the time all the more brilliant.

Travis McDermott

If anyone finds the background of this movie confusing like I did; a great book to read is Watergate: A New History by Garrett M. Graff. It covers a lot of scandals that are only hinted at.

bdennis2004

Context to you two from Ted Lasso when Trent Krimm found CCTV of Nathan ripping up the believe sign. Ted: "May a young Robert Redford portray you in a film someday." Trent: "Probably Dustin Hoffman."

Angela D. Mitchell

Jeff K, oh God, I know, right? I used to watch "Tales of the Gold Monkey" as a kid for crying out loud! I loved him in Star Trek, and this, and "Jumpin' Jack Flash!" And now... (retch). Another reminder that movie people are not who they play onscreen.

Angela D. Mitchell

Thanks! And it's even weirdly more timely than ever, in some ways.

punterjoe

Yeah. This and "Spotlight" feel like fiction in our current dark timeline.

Jenny MacRunnel

Its the first time I've watched this movie! I loved it, so well done. I read the book (written by Woodward and Bernstein) years ago, it was a fascinating read. I highly recommend it.

Raven Blackrose

Ern, acktually, it's a diopter. Doppler is something else.