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Star Trek: TNG 507-508 (Patreon)

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Joel

Happy Star Trek Day! :D

Robert Cooper

Stephen Root the weirdest Klingon casting, ever. Also, the Romulans are more akin to the Triumverate era of Rome. They don't have a singlular emperor, but an emperial council. It is very republic-ish, but still imperial.

Matt O'Keefe

I never knew Stephen Root was in Unification. Still could not tell who he was. This before any fame for him. The only thing I remember before Office Space he was in was News Radio.

Captain Kermit

That's the most Vulcan reaction to Spock's reveal that I've ever seen.

TalynOne

Steven Root is a great versatile actor, he was very good in News Radio.

Matt O'Keefe

His role in News Radio is very different than anything else I have seen him in.

ChiefKC

Star Trek Day!

Joel

I don't HATE Dr. Pulaski, but I don't like how the writers in that season kept trying to shoehorn that whole "Data isn't sentient" storyline into virtually every scene the two were in together

Robert Cooper

Everything you see him in is very different thant anything else you have seen him in. :) Both his talent and (I presume) his agent make him one of the most versatile people in the business.

Phosphorus

I think Simone should self-report every time the level of success of her "Space" attempts: I think George has been messing with her for a while now so all we see is her attempt being off by a second while she seems really chuffed with it.

REDR58

I can’t relate how exciting it to see Spock show up in TNG back in the day. Unfortunately, me and my friends all knew it was coming because it was all over a different magazines and whatever at the time.

Mike W

I do like these two episodes but I have to agree that part 2 does let it down a bit. I think a lot of part 2s are the same and not just in star Trek.

Joel

It will take a LONG time to get to the explanation of the origins of Romulans vs. Vulcans, but they are essentially the same species, they've only been living separately for about 1200 (IIRC) years at this point, which isn't really enough time for them to deviate very much biologically

R. Chang

He's one of the main characters in Widow's Bay and he's great in it. The elevator pitch for the show is that it's Parks & Rec meets The X-Files/Twin Peaks and I highly recommend it.

REDR58

Not enough interaction between Data and Spock for me.

Dirge Girl

Surprise Stephen Root! He's excellent in Widow's Bay.

Joel

We already know that all we are seeing is George's reception of the timing, so with the vagaries of latency, I'll go with what she reports

Lintrinsic

It wasn't just a nod to the movie, it was a promo for it. Some fans make a huge deal that it's a spoiler, but I've never felt it gave much away, certainly not enough to move it out of release order, but it isn't a huge deal to me either way.

michael denny

Picard in Romulan face, Shameful.

REDR58

Sorry to tell you, Simone, but that Leonard Nimoy apartment in Vancouver story seems not to be the case: https://vanmag.com/city/people/leonard-nimoy-actually-live-tree-topped-building/ "It’s unclear how the pervasive rumour that triple-threat actor, author and singer Leonard Nimoy lived at Eugenia Place (1919 Beach Avenue if we’re going to be formal about it) got started, but when you build a tower and plant an 11-meter pin oak on top of it, you’re going to attract some attention—like when you wear a statement hat on the bus. Nimoy passed away in 2015, so he obviously could not be reached for comment. His son, Adam, however, told me that to his knowledge his father never owned or lived in an apartment in the iconic tower."

Mike W

you can tell from the short amount of time that they have together how good a longer scene would be

Mike W

If you want to see peak shatner acting you need to see him as Alexander the Great. . 😂

I Want A Hypothalamus For Christmas

Growing up, my best friend told me that his mother had described Star Trek (TOS) as "A bunch of guys in T-shirts running around with ray guns." Fortunately, I never had a chance to tell her to her face the quality of her opinion.

Brandon

Even when I have it synced perfectly, she is never accurate with "space!" It's been a great source of amusement for me, especially when she says that she nailed it. 😂 I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and say there might be some slight audio delay stuff when they record. Edit: I take that back, because she was accurate in part 2.

Pokes

It seems like they really wanted the Spock reveal to be the big part 1 finale to hook viewers into coming back for part 2. But it really throws off the pacing of the story. Part 1 feels like it's building up a larger mystery than part 2 has the time to properly pay off, so it ends up feeling very rushed and not as satisfying as it should. Pushing the Spock reveal to before the 3rd commercial break of part 1 would've given the time to establish his motivations and set the stage for the dynamics happening on Romulus. Then you would have had an entire episode for them to gradually learn about the Romulan's invasion plans, sprinkled in with some character moments. We still get some good character stuff, but the Romulan plot gets relegated to an exposition dump delivered 5 mins before everything gets wrapped up. There are still lots of great moments in these 2 episodes, but the whole ends up being less than the sum of its parts.

Brandon

Oh my god, Daniel Roebuck that played Dr. Arzt on Lost was one of the Romulans that supported reunification. I never noticed him before. 😆

REDR58

Unification I Recall that Sarek is still suffering the effects of Bendii Syndrome as previously seen in the 3rd season episode "Sarek": www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOm1dKSOq1g And so that is very much like the equivalent of dementia for Vulcans. Geordi identifies the missing Vulcan ship as the "T'Pau" which was also the name of the Vulcan in "Amok Time" from TOS: www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUHFnktxW1o T'Pau is also the name of a band which took its name from that TOS character which released the song "Heart and Soul" in 1987, for which they are most famous for: www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwrYMWoqg5w Klim Dokachin (DOKachin!) at the decommissioned shipyard/scrapyard/depot is a Zakdorn, the same species as Kilrami who appeared in "Peak Performance" in the second season: www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCXKgRnmHAU When the Enterprise first enters the depot at Qualor II, a Klingon D7 battlecruiser can be seen on screen left, the same kind of ship first seen in TOS and the TOS movies: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/D7_class_model?file=D7-class_Klingon_battle_cruiser_second_studio_model.jpg Data tell Picard that the crewquarters on the Klingon Bird-of-Prey commanded by K'Vada (Stephen Root) are obviously intended for a single person. They look rather spacious to me for one person, if not a bit sparse. The mystery smuggler combat ship that fires on the Enterprise at Qualor II is a heavily modified version of the same "Husnock" ship model that was used in "The Survivors": www.youtube.com/watch?v=RauMpjhFdU8 Worf looks pretty smug/pleased when that ship is destroyed by the Enterprise! Unification II George, a time travel episode with Shatner AND Picard? That would be insane. Speaking of, I think Shatner's acting is quite good in the movies, particularly in The Search for Spock. Happily, George did not seem to notice when Denise Crosby's name appeared in the opening credits and so at least he was surprised at her appearance as Sela. I'm sure there will be many more exciting adventures with Sela! I think Simone is right. Having the different director for Part II is a bit of a detriment to the story. Bole does direct some good episodes, however, including "The Best of Both Worlds" Part I and II where Picard is Borgified. Adam Nimoy does at least direct one quite good episode of TNG. The other, not so much... (Edited for clarification)

Will Sofer

Per your question: soup appears to be the most popular form of food amongst both Vulcans and Romulans. Seriously. Most of the Vulcan diet seems to consist of soup and tea. At least Romulans have ale.

Life in the cave of Garanoga

I'm a fan of the Frakes directed episodes. I think you've only seen one or two directed by him so far. But I am bias here. He actually directs for a lot for shows I love and his episodes in those shows are always good and a little extra special since it connects that show to Star Trek in my head lol. But Jonathan Frakes is a great tv director. He also directed two of the TNG movies.

Hammerdash

I just looked up which episode Adam Nimoy directed, and I just wanted to say that I like both of them! I can see why fans might not like one of those episodes though. Never paid much attention to the directing in those episodes either--maybe when I watch them again I'll find that I like the story but not the direction.

p0sthum4n

He's the klingon captain.

p0sthum4n

The proconsul is the leader of the Romulan government at this point. Never exactly made clear how it all functions. The senators presumably represent the people throughout the empire and yet Pardek represents a single district in a city? Maybe he represents a district in every city on Romulus? I don't really get it. Senatus Populusque Romulus

Matt O'Keefe

Simone and George said that, but I still cannot tell.

Guts

I have seen apes sleep on their sides using their arm as a pillow.

p0sthum4n

The Vulcan-Romulan schism is supposed to have happened around 2700-2800 years before TNG. It's never been covered in canon but common fanon is that the Vulcans who became Romulans left Vulcan on some kind of sublight sleeper ships or generation ships or something like that.

Adam Morgan

William Shatner seems to have been quite well regarded as a Shakespearean stage actor before he moved to the USA and started working in television.

REDR58

Yes indeed.

REDR58

The voice comes across very familiar to me.

Matt O'Keefe

You have a better ear for than I do. Or maybe I just cannot hear him. I dunno.

REDR58

That was a 1964 TV series pilot that was turned into a TV movie in 1968. Also starring Adam West (TV's "Batman")! And here it is: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CrcEMMzv2A And that really is Shatner riding the horse at full gallop at the start.

REDR58

Oh and I forgot, Klim DOKachin was played by the late Canadian character actor Graham Jarvis who was in "Misery" as "Libby" who ran the hotel and you can see him at 23:18 into the reaction for "Misery" here: https://cinebingers.ca/rPqBpLv4E1

Glenner7

I don't know this for a fact (maybe someone knows), but I'd assume the two parts were directed by different directors because they might have been filmed at the same time, and each part of the story would need its own director?

Chris Graham

I think it takes a lot to annoy a Trek fan...... ALSO WE RIDE AT DAWN FOR PICARD AND DATA!!!

REDR58

Here you go: Unification I "Several cave scenes are filmed: 11 September 1991 Several more cave scenes are filmed, and final draft script is issued: 13 September 1991 Filming of scenes on the Klingon Bird-of-Prey, and scheduled filming of scene involving Fran Bennett as Fleet Admiral Shanthi: 16 September 1991 Principal photography: 19 September 1991 – 26 September 1991 Premiere airdate: 4 November 1991 First UK airdate: 1 February 1995" https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Unification_I_(episode) Unification II "The episode was filmed between Monday 9 September 1991 and Wednesday 18 September 1991 on Paramount Stage 5, 8, 9, and 16. Additional second unit shots were filmed on Thursday 29 October 1991 on Paramount Stage 9." https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Unification_II_(episode)

Andrew

George missed one of the most obvious "That's what she said" in the history of "That's what she said" when Simone said "I feel like hard is better than too soft". Is he ok?

Chris Henderson

If y'all do take a break from any the shows can we get an Invincible reaction?

REDR58

Not for ice cream.

Glenner7

Leonard Cohen, not Nimoy.

Vinnero

I love Steven Root in the show NewsRadio.

gfixler

Yep, came to post this classic moment. This is the role I first new him in, so for a while, he was not all the future things, but "Wow, the guy from NewsRadio is really versatile!" when I would see him in later works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-yGUSRdNG4 This was also the first thing I ever saw Joe Rogan in, back when he had hair, and he's in the background in that clip. This is what I always think of when I think of what an empire he's built. For a long time, as he grew in popularity, I was like "This is the dumb jock from NewsRadio?"

dys

I think the Data and Spock scene is pretty perfect but the second episode is let down by how little sense Fake Tasha's plan makes and how it falls apart with almost no effort by our heroes.

dys

She had it dead on in part 2 *in this recording* but again that's only to our perception because she and George and the video we're shown are never perfectly in sync, so for all we can know she had it way closer in other episodes.

dys

Wait, how did I not realize Shatner was from Montreal? I feel like him being Canadian must have been a fact I came across at some point but I assumed he was American this whole time through watching these Canadians react to Star Trek.

Eric Wilson

So let me explain something I do not like Pulaski better than Beverly as a character but as a doctor Pulaski is a thousand times better than Beverly. If in this fictional universe I want someone to operate on me it would 100% be Pulaski. Let's just look at some of the things here. Pulaski successfully came up with a technique to wipe the minds of aliens. She did successfully. Beverly tried to copy it and failed. Pulaski after first meeting Geordie tell him that she has a technique that can restore his eyes to normal human eyes, Beverly told him it was impossible before that she didn't even know of a technique that could be done. Beverly screwed up and altered the DNA of every single person on the Enterprise traumatizing basically everyone especially the children on board I'm sure. Beverly went to what was it teach at the academy or something or was it the head of medical or something like that well she only lasted a year and she had to go back to her previous post so that tells me that she couldn't hack it. It's pretty clear that Beverly is a nepotism hire. Picard got Beverly on the Enterprise when she really wasn't the best chief medical officer.

Rob Steere

The fact that this episode acted as a sort of promotion for ST6 was the main reason Nimoy agreed to do this appearance, since he was a producer on the film.

dudewheresmycar

There's a great 2 part future episode coming up though where the 2nd is fantastic.

John Suire

Shatner did a great bit on Conan O’Brien’s show years ago, where he was claiming to give away dark secrets about himself, very dramatically. The best one, in my opinion: “I’m a Canadian, and if the US and Canada were ever to war against each other, it would be my duty to kill as many Americans as I possibly could.” ::takes long drag from cigarette:: “I’d enjoy it.”

Simon Pegged Me

I didn't like Part II. The plot seemed like a McGuffin, an excuse to have Leonard Nimoy on the show in a guest-starring role, possibly for the purpose of promoting the movie Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. I'm not oppose to that. In fact, I was excited to see Spock with the next generation. I just wish the plot made more sense. The Romulans planned to use three Vulcan ships, containing an invasion force of roughly 2,000 Romulan troops, to defeat Vulcan, one of the most sophisticated and technologically advanced planets in the galaxy, one of the core planet, of the Federation, with billions of citizens and a fleet of starships. And when Picard is skeptical about the success of the plan, Sela assures him it will work because before the Federation can respond to the attack, the 2,000 Romulans would be “entrenched, and it will be very difficult to get us out once we are. Reunification will become a fact of life.” Um, [insert “Sure, Jan” gif] A successful attack depends on Vulcan and the Federation allowing the three ships to reach Vulcan unchallenged. They'll be unchallenged because a message from Ambassador Spock will tell them the future is dependent upon the ships reaching Vulcan. This seems unlikely to work. As we're told in Part I, Spock is on Romulus pursuing a personal dream. He isn't representing Vulcan nor the Federation in diplomatic relations at this time, so receiving a message that says "I've negotiated a solution to a problem no one asked me to solve" would send up more than a few red flags. There's no way those ships reach their destination. And the episode concludes with Spock remaining on Vulcan. What?! The entire episode, Spock has been walking around Romulus with his face unaltered even though Romulans have evolved to look different than Vulcans, and he has one of the most recognizable faces in the galaxy. Yet, he is never picked up by Romulan security forces. Presumably, he's been left alone because the Romulans wanted to use him, but at the end of the episode that is not the case. He would be picked up immediately if he stayed. Senator Pardek, his ally, has been exposed as a spy, a spy that knows the entire network of Vulcan reunification dissenters are. Those people are in danger of imprisonment (or worse), and Spock would be too if he decided to stay.

Sven Ketelhut

I don't think you could say something about Star Trek that would made me mad, I habe my Star Trek in my brain, safe and secure from anything. About Shatner: he was never a good action actor, never, but he became a very good actor later (I think Denny Crane is his best role, not Kirk or T.J. Hooker)

REDR58

Close enough!

funky weapon

SO! let me tell you about the funnest, trashiest bullshit show in HBO history, True Blood! Stephen Root plays a vampire. a gay, middle-aged vampire who was basically a more stable version of Milton before turning. he's awkward, he's hilarious, and unfortunately he's not in the show for the entire 8 season run. you guys should consider True Blood for a long show after the Sopranos because it's terrible in all the right ways, like a greasy hamburger from a run-down diner or a slice of cold pizza after a hangover. it just hits a spot nothing else does. Also, King of the Hill is GOATed. would be chuffed if that made a poll too.

Naj

At least Pulaski. NM.

dys

Well yeah if you're thinking of the one I'm thinking of it's only some of the best TV of all time

Data Cable

The first time I remember seeing him was on Night Court, as a defendant presenting himself as the Angel of Death. Through a series a wacky coincidences, it seemed as long as he was locked up, nothing could die. Turns out he was a doctor who'd lost one too many patients and had a bit of a psychotic break. What really struck me was his performance through that reveal.

Patrick - Excelsior

In Star Trek canon, the Romulans split from the Vulcans roughly 1,600 to 1,800 years ago (in the 4th century of Earth's calendar). When the philosopher Surak introduced a way of life based on logic and the suppression of emotions, the planet was tearing itself apart. Those who rejected Surak's philosophy (often referred to as "those who march beneath the Raptor's wings") chose to leave Vulcan rather than adopt a logic-driven society. These exiles embarked on a long journey through space and eventually settled on the twin planets of Romulus and Remus.

Angzarr

I don't remember ever seeing Stephen Root in anything that I didn't like. Not just that he was good -- I've liked the whole show/movie! I'm sure he's been in things I don't remember that weren't good, but anything with a big enough role to be memorable I've liked: NewsRadio, Office Space, O' Brother Where Art Thou, Barry, Dodgeball...

This Justin

The fact that the Enterprise returns to Galorndon Core in “Unification II” is a great callback. It’s the same hostile planet where Geordi was stranded with the Romulan Bochra in “The Enemy,” when the radiation interfered with his VISOR and forced the two enemies to work together to survive. Now, the Enterprise is back near that same planet confronting a much larger Romulan plot. In a way, “Unification” brings several long-running threads together: Federation–Romulan tensions, Spock’s reunification movement, Sarek’s legacy, Sela’s connection to Tasha Yar, and even the earlier events on Galorndon Core. It makes the episode feel like a culmination of several different TNG storylines.

Elisa H.

which culture do you think is more shady shady espionage Romulons or cardassians?

Kyle West

I just think of Sal Rubinek's character in Frasier. "Yeah, we're talking big numbers here. You haven't seen so many zeroes lined up since Mister Spock had a book signing."

Angela D. Mitchell

Chiming in on Shatner -- I think he could be a terrific actor, and that he was often underrated many times for subtle or powerful moments. Of course, he could also be an OVERactor, and honestly? I love both. (And I'm with Simone -- TOS Kirk was absolutely a hottie. And his fight overacting was priceless!) And Stephen Root is one of my favorite actors of all time. The guy can truly do anything -- he's a superb NASA chief in the fabulous "From the Earth to the Moon," the town crackpot (who's smarter than he seems) in "Widow's Bay," he was a charismatic millionaire in the wonderful "NewsRadio," a conniving criminal in "Barry," a cold corporate drug boss in "No Country for Old Men," and so many more. (And he was "Bubbles" in Finding Nemo!)