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Blade Runner (Final Cut) - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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No Sync Required Version: https://cinebingers.ca/YTolsbJx62 - For Patreon tier "Bingers on The Wall" or higher.

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Blade Runner Final Cut - Patreon Version

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China Andronicus

Roy shoving the nail through his hand was basically to wake up the nerves with pain because they were dying down. I’m eternally bummed out that they made a sequel because it completely ruined the question of whether or not Deckard is a replicant and it was such a wonderfully ambiguous film. Also personally I found the sequel incredibly disappointing, though I think I’m in the minority. Rutger Hauer as Roy is just brilliant. The OG cut had voice narration by Deckard which stated that Roy spared him because his death made him appreciate all life, even the man trying to kill him. To this day I don’t think I’ve seen a more visually striking film.

pinkdino99

For Simone - the building interior is called The Bradbury in downtown LA. The Wiki has some gorgeous photos of the building without all the noir muck and water. Tyrell is totally the bad guy. He manufactures slaves. It is a very astute observation to recognise that Batty and his crew are not true villains, despite the killings that they commit. The excessive smoke and rain was mainly due to the fact that this was shot on the external Warner Bros backlot. This lot had been shot in hundreds (possibly thousands) of movies/ TV shows and has features that were instantly recognisable like the outside of Sebastian's building which Scott desperately tried to disguise. As far as the versions go ; The book - Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep - Deckard is not a replicant and has a pet replicant sheep Theatrical - prelim audience reviews were that they did not understand the movie, so a voiceover was commissioned against both Ford's and Scott's wishes leading to the most unenthusiastic ADR in cinema history (look at some YouTube clips). Additional end sequence shows a car driving through mountains which was actually aerial shots off the cutting room floor from The Shining International - more violent cut Director's - flashes the unicorn dream sequence, removes voice-over. Digitally replaced the male stunt double that played Zhora in the "retirement" scene so that she actually looks like a woman rather than a guy in drag crashing through the glass like in the theatrical release. Removes cheesy ending and adds Gaff's origami unicorn positing the question "is Deckard a replicant ?" Final cut - enhanced upscale from film to HD but NO ADDITIONAL CGI. All the effects are practical and from that original film ! Extended dream sequence and includes the violence from the international cut. Deckard is a replicant (for now)

JediLounger

Strawberry jam for the win. Starting the reaction now, and I will respond to the inevitable question: Yes Blade Runner 2049 is worth watching. You should also watch the short films that take place in between the two movies, you might have to look around for them. The animated series is also pretty good. They are as follows: Blade Runner Black Out 2022 (2017) 2036: Nexus Dawn (2017) 2048: Nowhere to Run (2017) Animated series: Blade Runner: Black Lotus (2021) There are fan theories and fun stuff about these movies, how they might tie into other stuff, but you should watch the for sure cannon stuff first. That other stuff might make you stumble into spoilers for the cannon stuff. You should also watch the theatrical cut ending, it’s an interesting study into how the film changed over the years. Edit: Simone, 99.9% of this movie is the original. They made some minor changes to this version of the movie for minor visual effects and different cuts of various scenes. The ending is also different, but that was the case for the first version that had this ending, which was first shown in the early 90s at movie theaters. All of the stuff you were watching when you asked this question were in camera original effects that are miniatures or models. Second Edit: Phillip K. Dick and his book ‘Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep’ has been mentioned already. The story was recently redone in a fantastic graphic novel, I recommend reading it. The stories diverge significantly, so be ready for that. Also, Rutger Hauer, who unfortunately died a few years ago, was not happy with his replicants last words, so he wrote the tears in the rain speech a few days before filming.

Cav

Really hope you guys do Blade Runner 2049. I think it's superior to the original. One of my all-time favorite films.

Prof. Writhms

George/Simone, none of the special effects were enhanced with CGI. What you saw was in the original movie. They just cleaned things up for the final cut. For instance: When the flying car lifted off the ground, you could see the cables in the original cut, if you looked hard enough. They were digitally removed. The scene where Zhora was "retired", you could clearly see it was a stunt person in the original cut. They digitally placed the actors face on the stunt person for the Final Cut. They enhanced the color palette and remastered the sound, but that was it. No added CGI scenes like George Lucas did with the original Star Wars trilogy. Its all practical from 1982. 😁👌

Jim Johnson

You guys should watch one of the latest Ridley Scott movies, The Last Duel, sometime. It’s very good and has a great cast.

Anthony Perez

Your channel is only one of two I watch for reaction. I love you guys interaction and look forward to seeing new movies with you and re-watching movies with fresh eye. BUT...suspension of disbelief...you seem to spend a lot of time out of the movie. Just saying you might enjoy them better if you stayed in the movie.

Githerax

Cherry jam. Also, Simone, according to The Internet the only added content in the Final Cut was the unicorn dream images. The unicorn is a symbol of human conscoiusness, from the thought-experiment that asks 'is the idea of a unicorn a real unicorn? And if not, where did the thought come from if not the reality of our consciousness?' The images in the rest of the movie were cleaned up, but not Lucas-ified with added CGI.

Githerax

Also also, Simone, 'can replicants cry?'- This is the point Philip K. Dick was getting at. He was a very metaphysical writer, always questioning what it means to be human. Blade Runner was based on a short story of his called 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?'. 'Total Recall' was also based on a Philip K Dick story. Also see 'Minority Report', 'The Adjustment Bureau', and of course 'Blade Runner 2049'. Also check out 'Ex Machina' if you haven't seen it already, although I can't imagine George hasn't seen this as required viewing for his profession.

Vito

Oh man I can’t wait to get out of work. One of my favorite movies to see people’s reactions to. It’s such a beautiful film and my appreciation only increases the more I watch it. Hope you do 2049 as well and soon! I think it accomplishes nearly the impossible and makes the original even better. Love the channel, keep it up.

Githerax

Also also also, George, the chess game was metaphorical. Chess was one of the earliest practical questions in AI. I remember the time when we wondered if computers could ever beat a human; that was the point of having a non-digital chess game going on in the movie, to represent that question.

E.P.B.F.

To answer George's question of whether this was the first Cyberpunk: yes and no. Blade Runner was loosely adapted from the1968 novella 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep'. by SF author Philip K. Dick. Therefore it technically precedes cyberpunk as a recognized sub-genre of science fiction by more than a decade, but the works of Philip K. Dick were huge literary influences on William Gibson, Bruce Sterling and Walter Jon Williams in creating it so you could say its proto-cyberpunk.

Jack Burton

I can't wait to see your reactions to Bladerunner:2049 The Eyes: Scott had lights behind the camera pointed at the people who were supposed to be replicants so their eyes would reflect the light like that but not be a an actual 'special-effect'. The Story: Based on a book called "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep"... great book... not exactly followed. The Unicorn: Just imagery. One of a kind. I think Rachel was his Unicorn and Deckard was her Unicorn.

E.P.B.F.

On the subject of non-cliche AI-Goes-Bad movies may i suggest The Machine (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2317225/). It's a British independent movie from 2013 starring Katie Lotz that looks way better and is way smarter than it has any right to be based on the minuscule budget (for a feature length film) that it was shot with.

Jeff I.

As usual, I went ahead and watched your post-watch thoughts and opinions before watching the reaction, and I'm glad you both really liked it. The sequel Blade Runner 2049 is a rare 9/10 movie for me (no movie is a perfect 10), and improves on Blade Runnner in every way (world building, character development, soundtrack, visuals). Really looking forward to your reaction to 2049, since having seen the original makes the story of the two movies combined a much more emotional one. Ryan Gosling kills it in his role, and all of the supporting cast is great too.

Saifu

Can't wait to see the 2049 reaction!!

JoeySnowyNoey
>>82808890

I honestly don’t really like this movie. I wish I did it seems like everyone does, but I love 2049. I only saw it because the director is one of my favorite directors working today and I absolutely loved it.

Einherj

Strawberry jam all the way.

Jeff I.
>>82799440

Yeah, I've noticed that sometimes. George can be overly analytical now and then, but it still makes for an good reaction with the contrast between him and the more emotionally invested Simone. Peanut butter is nothing without the jam. :-)

REDR58

Glowing eyes effect was done entirely in-camera at the time of filming. It's not a post production effect.

The Inedible Mattman!

The whole idea of "is Deckard human?" is central to the film. There are clues early on that might prove he's not real, but a replicant instead. During his briefing with the chief, when the chief mentions a "special" kind of replicant, he gives Deckard a weird look, almost as if he knows Deckard isn't human but actually one of the test replicants Tyrell was working on. The comments later about has Deckard ever taken the test, and then finally the unicorn. If Deckard is human, how could the other cop know about Deckard's dream of a unicorn? That could mean the police all knew he was a replicant and had access to the memories that were given to him. But this is the same arguments you start making for other Phillip K Dick stories. Look at Total Recall ... from the moment Arnold goes under the procedure to get new memories implanted, everything that happens literally follows the plan for his "dream vacation". So did it happen? Or was that the memories that were implanted?? I love how these films make you second guess everything and leave it up to you to decide what you believe.

Michael_AP

Blueberry Jam if I can only choose your 2 suggestions. But Blackberry Jam is my fave. Yummy

Michael_AP

The Apple commercial George mentions is a reference to the book "1984" by George Orwell which is about a future society that is ruled via mass surveillance and brain washing. It was Apple's way to say that they were "liberating" people from the PC world domination. Now the term "1984" is a term often used to describe a "Big Brother society" where people don't have any rights and are being hold under strict surveillance.

Monica Alarcon

My personal jam is strawberry but I vote for blueberry

Tim Boxall

Midway through the watchalong, (just brewing a cuppa for the remainder) and most people have already commented of clarified on the stuff I was going to mention. Two stray thoughts though - this original is better than 2049 (though that's also excellent) and orange marmalade rather than jam. At a push, I'll go raspberry.

Andrew Smith

George I am happy that I could help you pay off your student loan!

Githerax
>>82808196

The Unicorn is a deliberate object chosen in this story. The philosophical question being "Is the *idea* of a unicorn a real thing?" which question echoes the title of the story about androids and electric sheep. Plotted on a graph with axis labelled 'Perceptive Sensibility' and 'Existential Status' a unicorn has no existential status but high perceptive sensibility, and how could every child draw one if they cannot be said to exist? Anyway, it's a whole long-winded thing: https://medium.com/@sacredless/a-philosophical-examination-into-the-existence-of-unicorns-24545298e539

Alfredo Topete Escamilla

Is biology what makes us human? Is a person with a pacemaker less human? Do our memories make us human? Is a person with amnesia less human? Who knows what human is? Who knows what even life is? I like movies that leave me with more questions than answers.

Alfredo Topete Escamilla

Also, another point worth mentioning is that -if I'm not mistaken- replicants weren't supposed to have feelings. That's why no one saw them as a human beings before. But the fact that some of them started to be self aware and develop emotions is what made them dangerous (not only physically, but ethically). I think that's why they were hiding it.

The Maestro

I quite like black currant jam and hascap jam but I'll vote raspberry

Monica Alarcon

I'm probably in the minority but I never liked Blade Runner.. I tried again with you two but I just found it boring... and I'm a big big fan of sci-fi, on the page and on film... it's probably the only major 80's sci fi movie I don't like

Miles E Coburn

Great reactions, Simone and George! There really isn’t a whole lot of changes from Director’s Cut to this one. Tremendous changes between the theatrical cut and The Final Cut. There is a neo-noir voice over from Deckard in the theatrical cut. From what I understand, the studio forced Ridley Scott and Harrison Ford to include it. I think I’m the only person on Earth who liked the voice over as I think it adds to the film noir aspect of the world. Yeah, a lot of people have problems with the Deckard / Rachael scene in his apartment. But I look at it this way, Rachael was having problems determining if her reactions were her own or Tyrell's niece's. Remember, when she played the piano, "I remember lessons. But I don't know if they are mine or Tyrell's niece's." Deckard says, "YOU [EMPHASIS MINE] play beautifully." Yes, he prevents her from running away. And, at the start, he feeds her lines to tell him. But when she says, "Put your hands on me", she's entirely "off script" and establishing she's feeling those things. SHE is. Odd fact: The story takes place in 2019, so Roy Batty dies in 2019. Rutger Hauer, who played Roy, died in 2019. The original "Tears in Rain" monologue felt too clunky for Rutger Hauer. So he rewrote it the night before the scene was shot. “Blade Runner 2049” is a sequel, not a remake.

MacGuffinStuff

Apple jelly, but between raspberry and blueberry I gotta go raspberry. Ah yes, the tears in the rain monologue, Rutger Hauer did modify the script, most significantly he added the "tears in the rain" line, supposedly when they finished filming it some of the crew were in tears themselves. To see Rutger Hauer play a REALLY creepy character, check out "The Hitcher", that movie did for hitchhiking what "Jaws" did for swimming at the beach as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure there's no connection between the two, but Ridley Scott's next movie was 1985's "Legend", which happens to be about unicorns. I recommend it but it's complicated as there are at least two (extremely) different versions of that movie too. I prefer the longer version, some of those scenes really should have stayed in the cut, but I do love the ambient electronic soundtrack of the other version (sorry Jerry Goldsmith). Can't wait for the 2049 reaction, I really liked that one too.

Scott Elsasser

Thank you thank you thank you, i'm really rather envious. You have the ability to see the follow up story when you're ready. I saw Blade Runner in its opening weekend when i was 12 years old. i've had 42 years of conversations about this film since then (one of the longest running was the debate about Deckard and is he/ isn't he a replicant. It makes a lot of sense. Why would a law enforcement agency put a real person on the job to hunt something that they know is stronger, faster and at least equal in intelect ?) I really could go on for 40 years about this film,. One of the earliest cyberpunk films and you can see its influence in nearly everything that followed. Roy Batty is such an amazing character. When Deckard is climbing the building to escape, Roy stops to feel the rain before continuing the persuit knowing he's dying. Tears in Rain is still one of the best lines in film to this day. Thank you again for watching this one, i look forward to your 2049 review.

Tim Schulte
>>82839198

Thats very interesting. I love this film but when I think of sci-fi I never think of Blade Runner. Its got a very different tone and pace than most sci-fi films. To me I think of it more as a noir, maybe your not into those types of films?

Guillermo Antonio Ricci Alvarez

The Final Cut did have graphical changes to get it to be HD but it was more like them made them smoother and less dark, otherwise the effects are practically the same...also they removed the happy ending which is why you are missing a few seconds at the end but they wanted to make it more as you choose what happens next...also RASPBERRY

Saifu

There's also another tv series/sequel coming from Amazon Prime called "Blade Runner 2099". Let's hope that it will be another good continuation of the Blade Runner franchise.

Gary Fixler
>>82841947

I wonder if they do Legend, if I'll actually make it through. 4 different times in my life, different friends have put on that movie, and all 4 times, I fell asleep a minute after the unicorns appeared. Every time I woke up when the credits were rolling, and by the 4th time, I decided someone hypnotized me as a kid, and told me to pass out whenever I see unicorns. It's the only thing that makes sense.

Gary Fixler

I can't believe I watched 2049 recently. I actually debated, saying CB probably won't get to it for a long time, if ever, and then almost immediately this appears, and it looks like you're going to add that one soon :-D I have to say, 2049 really honored its roots. So many much-later sequels to classics screw it all up, but I just kept marveling the entire time at how much it felt like the same world, with the same mood, visual style, ambiance, pacing... It felt like it was made in the past, not in recent times, just with nicer cameras. Very well done.

Adverb

I hope you watch 2049 soon!

JLee

The CineFiles podcast episode on Blade Runner is a fantastic listen (as is all their stuff). Can't watch this anymore without Scott Mantz's voice echoing in my head every time Edward James Olmos shows up: "Gaff is the real Blade Runner."

Anthony Perez

If you liked Rutger Hauer check out "Blood of Heroes". A post-apocalyptic film with zero cars, guns etc. Sorta like Mad Max 300 years later. Also has Vincent Denofrio , Delory Lindo and Joan Chen. Great little known movie. "NO ONE CARRIES THE DOG BOY ! " and "Lord Vile, I've broken Juggers in half, smashed their bones, left the ground behind me wet with brains. There's nothing I wouldn't do to win. But I never hurt anyone for any reason other than sticking a dog's skull on a stake."

Einherj

William Sanderson is just great in everything he does, I hope you watch Deadwood some day.

JayF

Rutger Hauer's speech at the end when he dies was largely him improvising based off the lines that were written. When he finished he got a round of applause from the crew, some of whom were in tears. Wiki link about "Tears in rain" speech - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tears_in_rain_monologue As for the dove, I've always interpreted that as Batty's soul leaving his body. The movie was based off the book "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?". The book and movie were examining whether an AIs can achieve sentience and, if they can, how would that change how they should be treated by us. Other Rutger Hauer movies to consider reacting to - Blood of Heroes Blind Fury Wanted: Dead or Alive (Gene Simmons plays the villain) The Hitcher (1986) Ladyhawke

Bobz

Probably a bit late with this, but regarding what George said about the cyberpunk style of the city, William Gibson said he went to a screening when he was writing Neuromancer and was bummed out 'cos people would think he'd lifted the world/aesthetic for his novel.

Drew Acheson

In case no one has brought it up, this film is based on a book by Phillip K Dick called Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. In that, animals aren't extinct but real animals are rare and very expensive. Fake animals are cheaper and more prevalent. Owning a real animal is a show of wealth and the main character spends a good part of the story trying to earn enough and dreaming about buying a real animal. The main character is also a blade runner, although I don't think the job is called that. And at some point in the story the author not only the main character but also the reader wondering if he is actually a replicant. It's really worth a read and before this cut of the movie was almost required reading to make sense of what was happening in this movie. This cut does a much better job of explaining things, but I'd still suggest reading the book.

Chris Lüders

Very nice reaction from both of you and I have to admit that I have split feelings about this movie. First of all he is epic in his making, world building, ambience, characters and the whole story as well as background. I only don't like such dystopian science fiction, so I never was a great fan of playing Cyberpunk, Shadowrun etc when my buddies really wanted to play it. But you can get used to it. But (!) in terms of such a dystopian world it really is perfectly portrait and as Hypnobob said above, I read somewhere too that William Gibson was blown away. So I would highly recommend you to watch the making of to this movie, and read about the shoot, the actors and of course about the whole world and its society. But please try to avoid spoilers in terms of Bladerunner 2049. I think in the book was told that replicants have the emotional development according to their lifespan, so like a small child. At first they only can feel simple emotions like hate, joy, fear, anger and with their development also more complex emotions like jelousy, pride, enthusiasm, melancholia, love, forgiveness etc, even if only for a few weeks until they die after four years. So I would highly recommend watching 'Bladerunner 2049' which in my opinion is as good as a sequel as Terminator 2 was to Terminator back then. But I would also recommend the series 'Battlestar Galactica' (2003-2009, including several very good and complementary TV movies; sometime after Firefly, of course!). Because in a certain way all these movies and series have some similar aspects and by the way Battlestar Galactica is in my opinion the best sci-fi series in its decade. 😎

Thomas Yanez

If you want more creepy Rutger Hauer, maybe this Halloween season you add The Hitcher (1986) to your playlist.

Michael Robayo

Nothing was enhanced other than by erasing wires when spinners take off, digitally syncing some dialogue, and a face replacement during Zora's death scene. Finally, Ridley added one cityscape background at the end when the dove flies away. Other than that, you are watching the original FX. The picture just has been remastered. This is how it looked in theaters in 1982. Excellent how much it holds up.