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It Chapter Two - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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2023-10-12 12:00:03
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No Sync Required Version: https://cinebingers.ca/9JhaXRbWg3 - For Patreon tier "Bingers on The Wall" or higher.

Movie runtime: 2:49:21

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It: Chapter 2 - Patreon Version

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Śéáń

IT is one of my favourite King books (mandatory disclaimer of "except for that one scene we do not talk about") with IT itself being a favourite all-time horror creature While I wasn't a big fan of the second film (and I've a lot of issues with the first) the cast is really great, both for the adult and the kids, and I enjoyed it for them despite the film they were placed in. This is the only book that deals with Pennywise as an actual primary villain, both films are based on the one book, but the Dark Tower series links a lot of Kings books into a kind of connected universe. (note, I could be wrong below as I haven't yet read the Dark Tower series) IT, the being that Pennywise is an avatar of, is referenced and maybe cameos(?) as a really dangerous, eldritch-level threat but not really used as a distinct character elsewhere.

Joe

Excellent!

Joe

I like the second one. It's not as good as part 1, but it's still an enjoyable watch. Nothing will beat the book though.

Prof. Writhms

It would be cool if you did a Steven King series of reactions. Would you Cinecreeps please give these 2 King movies a look-see? "Christine": 1983—based on the King novel, director John Carpenter (“Halloween”). “Creepshow”: (1982-- horror anthology, based the EC horror comics of the 1950s with original stories written by King. Director George Romero (“Night of the Living Dead”). I think a horror anthology would be good for Simone. With short stories: before she gets too scared, the story is over and on to the next one. lol 👻🎃

Generators

lmao since they did the first one, theres been comments in nearly every video both on here and on YT that asks for part 2. for like a whole year. now that theyve finally done it, the comments are near dead with mostly "meh" responses. i would so annoyed if i was S&G.

Drew

This has made my morning!

Chase Lonnergan

Hopefully watching this with Simone and George will make me hate this movie less. We shall see. Edit: To explain the length... IT is one book. That one book is 1138 pages long, at least the edition that I have is. The two main sections of the book are The Loser's Club as kids, and The Loser's Club as adults. Update: S&G were great. I still hate this movie. Probably because I am such a huge fan of the book. They changed too many of the wrong things. The only way I can handle the change from the well written and imaginative ending from the book to that ridiculous ending in the movie is by pretending it's a meta joke about Bill being Stephen King and writing shitty endings. Also u am proposing that we begin the rumor that "IT" is cursed to have every film adaptation have an excellent Part 1, and a disappointing Part 2. Who's with me?

silverarrow06

I like 'em both. The first one is "Stand by me" with a horror clown thrown in the mix and the second one is a highschool reunion with a horror clown thrown in the mix. Both have a great cast and a great crew behind the camera. 🙂

Dazzler & Em

Excellent, thank you for doing the second film. It is strange that this gets such mixed reaction. As Simone and George said in their reaction, the second part is very much the older character coming to terms with their past. It is very much the same in the book. Just with the added pressure of dealing with a clown that feed on fear and imagination. Either way I thought that the reaction from you both was perfect. Hopefully you will continue the spooky film trend.

Monica Alarcon

Excellent! I'll clear my schedule this afternoon and watch both episodes back to back

Joe
>>119638715

Er, no it isn't. It's 1,138 pages long. Where did you get that number from?

Joe

There is only one "It" book. The other ones are just passing references and links.

MikeBdrx

I wanna thank you for reacting to this movie. I enjoyed both part one and two. While i will always find the older "IT" movie/miniseries to be a little more creepy, these two are still very well done.

MasterElodin
>>119651788

Yes would highly recommend it as well as most King books. Although this one and The Last Stand are fucking massive books compared to most popular books.

Odd Thomas

Yay! Not as good as the first one though, for two reasons. It leans a little too heavily on the comedy, probably because Bill Hader is naturally funny, and the return of the kid actors pads out the run-time too much (the first film was all about the kids, the second one confuses the pace by switching between adults and kids. Should'a just been adults.)

silverarrow06

I totally see what you mean with the casting of Jessica Chastain. As much as I like her, but Amy Adams is way more similar to Sophia Lillis. They're both great actresses who could play that character, but Amy Adams would have been the more fitting choice. 🤔

Odd Thomas

One IT book but Pennywise 'cameos' in various ways in other King works

J

Thank youuuuuu

Joe

Wait. What lie did Bill tell? He never claimed to have written the poem, or even knew it existed. I think you're misremembering something.

Joe

The actor who played Eddie was Ziggy in The Wire season 2.

Logan Kerlee

lol, I think that I've seen Mary Poppins but I"m not 100% on that. lmao, Jessica Chastain MUST be playing the red head. You think?! xD This reaction is very exciting for me. I've watched this movie before as well as the original from wayyyyyyy back when. It TERRIFIED me on so many levels. Very happy that you'll FINALLY be concluding this. :) I'm not the wildest fan of this one - but it's a good watch. I prefer the original version quite a bit more. The original also scared me on a whole other level. Granted, I was a youngster then. DO NOT WATCH THIS WHEN YOU'RE 10 YEARS OLD. lmao, just putting that out there. lmao, don't feel bad Simone! xD lol, you're cowards! Gotta watch this at night for the first time. :P :P :P "This is a fucking nightmare." No, Simone, this ia a horror movie. A fucking TERRIFYING and terrible horror movie. The casting was very well done for this movie, agreed. They did a great job with the original as well. While I'm not 100% on whether or not that's the reason why they're all successful, I'm sure that it's a big reason why they're all fearless as adults. Won't lie, the moment the balloon popped and the zombie creature burst from it I jumped like a coward. Freaked me out big time for that instant. The fortune cookie scene may be a bit gross but it wasn't scary. lmao, Simone this isn't Disney. George, Pennywise preys on children. That's what he does. xD So of course he'll use whatever means to get his prey. The Ritual of Chüd is something else! "Lovingg youuu.." xD That bit made me laugh! Your guys' eyes when the old woman did that jig down that hallway. Then she became that monstrous old hag! I'm not sure if Pennywise was inspired by Gacy but that's a fair assumption. I'm not clear on how Gacy killed people but the clown bit is enough of a connection. The end of this one feels more like an action scene than a horror movie. I think that's a big part of why I prefer the original to this one. lol, how are either of your surprised by this? Derry is the town that a lot of King's stories take place in. Not all of them but a lot his stories took place there. Movies like this really make me wish that you both could watch movies together in the same room. The moments when Simone freaks out and George is laughing - that's George finally mentioned that this is more like an action movie at the end. Two members of the losers club down - but the rest completed their mission. They defeated It. Gotta end a horror movie with an underwater kith. lmao never apologize for being thirsty for Jessica Chastain. She's yummy 100%! lol, something that I wouldn't mind taking a sip of. :P Scarface has never felt like a long movie to me, George! xD I've enjoyed that movie for many years, though. I first watched that one when I was a little guy. I think a few years after I watched this, It, for the first time. Also, with this, the original film was also quite long. So long that it also was shown on tv as a two part thing, like this was.

Jay

Only watched the YT edit, this film is too long for me to watch again. Did they really not clock Ziggy Sobotka? 😲

JokerDanny

Don't think you got that Ritchie was secretly gay, Pennywise said "I know your secret" and at the end Ritchie carved R+E, Ritchie was in love with Eddie which makes it even sadder.

akaTheBARON

🖤In the book and the two movies IT comes back every 27 years. In the mini-series it was 30 (so 27 is the official number). What's cool about this is the IT remake (the first chapter anyway) came out in the theaters 27 years after the original IT movie.

Chase Lonnergan
>>119661165

I think it's a great nod to the Oedipal nature of his character that the same woman plays his mom and his wife.

Odd Thomas

You know, Simone, I actually work in a library (slowly sips coffee while maintaining eye contact)

Odd Thomas

I would recommend the 1990 TV series but watching it *after* the movies would probably be underwhelming for you. It's more lower budget and restricted by 90s television censorship compared to the big budget, gory movies. It's a shame because Tim Curry is just as good as Bill Skaarsgard as Pennywise. Shoulda watched the TV series first. Oh well. Cel' la vie.

Odd Thomas

Jessica Chastain had already worked with the director on 'Mama', which is a great horror movie too

MasterElodin

I'm a little sad, that they skipped the kinda weird psychedelic part at the end. But I guess that would be hard to put into a movie. And yes the movie was kind of long at some points, but the book is so massive they still left a lot out besides the ending. Also now that I see James McAvoy, I hope you guys will do the Split trilogy soon. Great movie and he is incredible in them.

Middy

I'm not sure I can sit through this disappointment again. The actors did well with the material they had, but the CGI was really poor for 2019, every action scene was just something jumping towards the camera and the pacing kinda felt all over the place. I loved the first movie and didn't think they could go wrong if they just went in with the same mindset... I wonder what happened.

Jonah Bertorelli

I wasn't expecting to put 3 hours in..... here we go! lol picked this over another reaction based on reactors over movie, oh well. better get this one out of the way before its too late to watch it. hahaha

JoeySnowyNoey

Im still waiting for the 4 hour cut version of this movie that contains both parts. The director said they were working on it but it hasn't came out yet.

Chase Schleich

I literally just watched this last week because I figured you were never doing it. It's been 18 months since the part 1 reaction.

Jonah

This movie had no right to be as good as it is. It was a bit too long, but this was a fantastic sequel.

Buhr

One of the things they don't talk about so much in the movie is the effect of IT on the people of Derry. It takes nice people and makes them mean, and it takes mean people and makes them deranged. The bullies there are essentially amped up because of IT. Also as for Adrian talking back. Unlike his boyfriend Don he is a city boy who isn't used to small town closed mindedness.

Joe D. MacGuffinstuff

Little fun fact, when they introduce Ben as an adult, the man standing and speaking in the conference room is the actor who played young Ben in the TV miniseries. And I'm sure someone already mentioned it but the actor who played Eddie was Ziggy from The Wire, easy to miss that because he was really good in this, a totally different type or character, he's also really good in Generation Kill (with Alexander Skarsgard). Oh, and George noticed that the spider/head thing looked just like in The Thing, but not sure if he noticed Bill Hader says exactly the same line as the actor in The Thing when they see it trying to walk out of the room, "You gotta be fucking kidding." I've probably recommended it before but Doctor Sleep is also a really good sequel.

Alex Ch

So the turtle standing out in the classroom was actually part of the series of jokes about people hating the ending of the book It, because the opposing force guiding the kids against Pennywise is, and I shit you not, a mythical Xuanwu.

Jacob King
>>119673209

My feeling is it has to do with changes to the structure of the book. The threads of the different timelines supported each other and everything that happens to them when they are adults plays off their childhoods. The children’s section can be excised cleanly and so chapter one holds together but chapter two has so much stuff happening (and some individual scenes are great) but it feels like just one thing after another because the motivation is already in the previous movie.

Jacob King

The traditional clown has always been upsetting and scary. It is the servant who acts like a master or the adult who acts like a child. They overturn established order, break social norms, destroy meaning. This is why the court jester is allowed to speak truth to the king. If we see the medieval court as a reflection of the heavenly realm the jester maps on to Satan. The Joker is probably the original evil clown in contemporary pop culture, a mirror to Batman. The Joker is based on the hero of The Man Who Laughs a swashbuckling revenge movie from the 1920s about a boy who had a smile cut into his face, grows up and pretends to be a theatre performer to get close to his enemies. Two classic horror novels that preceded It are the Circus of Dr Lao and Something Wicked This Way Come, both are about travelling circuses with cosmically evil ringmasters who arrive in small towns and cause havoc by showing the townsfolk what they desire. These stories speak to a time when travelling carnivals and circuses were a fixture in American life. Literally outsiders coming into these small towns bringing grotesque freaks, prostitution, gambling and violence (real and in the form of wrestling shows). Movies like Freaks (1932) and Nightmare Alley (1947) take it for granted that the audience sees the circus as a place of corruption and degradation. John Wayne Gacy dressed as a clown as part of his attempt to appear normal and safe. It didn’t occur to him there was a dark side to clowns because he had to learn about human behaviour through observation which is hard when you only look at the surface. Pogo the killer clown is a myth that took hold because to literally everyone else in the world it makes perfect sense that a serial killer would be a clown. Someone would have had to explain that to Gacy. I enjoyed the reaction though I don’t really like this movie. They cut so munch of the mythos stuff out. Still better than the recent Dark Tower or Firestarter movies.

Alex Ch

Always enjoy reactions where there’s a thoughtful discussion at the end, even if my favorite parts of the actual reaction are horrified Simone power-drinking her iced coffee.

Jameson Yates

All of the adults in Derry are under the general prenumbra of Pennywise, that's why they're all shit humans. Derry and everything in it's vicinity are constantly under the affect of Pennywise, even while he's in hibernation. That's why in the first movie when Bowers is cutting up Ben on the bridge and the old couple drive by staring and do nothing there's a balloon in the backseat.

KnittingHaven

Enjoyed the reaction! Regarding some of your comments about the bullies and people being evil, it's actually an underlying theme in all of King's books that it's evil people like that (and the ones who turn away and refuse to help or intervene when they can) who are the real monsters. I agree with a comment above that the TV miniseries would probably not hold up well for you after watching these movies, but I really like it, too. It follows the book a lot closer as far as plot. I actually watched it when it aired on TV, and it probably had more impact at the time because most of the actors were famous and at the top of their careers at the time. I'm pretty sure It #2 was not given a go until after the first movie did well in the theaters. I'm sure they had adult actors in mind, but they were not officially cast until then. I love that Bill Hader got the part because of the young actor for Ritchie, Finn Wolfhard. When they asked him who he would want to play the adult version of his character, he didn't hesitate, immediately said Bill Hader, and so they contacted Hader to see if he would do it. It's worth looking up some of the interviews with Bill Hader when the movie came out, really funny and interesting how he talked about it all. One thing I do really prefer in the book and the miniseries is that the story is interwoven the whole time between the past and the present. You learn what really happened in the past only in bits and pieces while following the story in the present. It just adds to the suspense and makes the story flow better to me.

Starman Deluxe

I thought you watched all of the wire? Eddie was Ziggy

Trevor S Bright

There is a Stephen King Multiverse. Some universes are post apocalyptic like "Cell", "The Mist", or "The Stand"...otherwise most of Stephen King's stories are set in the same universe. For example...the town Derry, Maine is also the main setting for the novel "Dreamcatcher"...the town Jerusalem's Lot, Maine is also the setting for the short story of the same name & the novel "Salem's Lot"...the town Castle Rock, Maine is the setting for novella "The Body" (aka the movie "Stand By Me" tho the movie changed the state from Maine to Oregon) and novels "The Dead Zone", "Cujo" (Simone ought to enjoy that 1 mwa ha ha 🐶), "The Dark Half", & "Needful Things". The main universe has King's works reference each other. Like "Dreamcatcher" has a scene where there's graffiti somewhere in Derry that says "Pennywise Lives"....In "The Body" (aka "Stand By Me") the boys talk a bit about Shawshank Prison...In "It", Mike's grandpa knew cook Dick Halloran from "The Shining"...In "Misery" Annie Wilkes even references "a guy who went crazy at the Overlook Hotel" obviously being "The Shining". Apparently most children in King's world has some form of The Shining in 1 way or another, and this is true for all members of The Losers Club. It's believed that Stanley was the most scared because his Shining may have been stronger than the others' so he got more emotional input clashing with his skeptical personality.

Scott G

This movie was such a disappointment to me. They absolutely nailed casting the adults but then still didn't seem confident that the adults could carry the movie so they wedged in all these unnecessary digitally de-aged kids scenes. It could've been a good tight 2 hour movie with just the adults.