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Ted Lasso: Season 2 - Episode 7 - 9 - Patreon Exclusive (Patreon)

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JediLounger

Four minutes in lol. Put Mad Men (2007) on the list. You guys need to know who Don Draper is.

djKENTO

When you said it’s heavy and took place recently my mind went to Sound of Freedom and oh my god if it’s that Q-anon piece of shit I’m gonna lose it hahaha.

Jeff K

I am so excited to watch your growing befuddlement at the goings-on in Beard After Hours. (I didn't love the episode at first, but upon rewatches, it's grown on me significantly.)

Jessi

Yeah, you've now seen both filler episodes. So. No. You didn't notice at the time. 😉

Jeff K
>>123800101

Which, honestly, is a sign of good writing that they were tasked with creating two additional episodes, and managed to do so not only without disrupting the story they'd already come up with, but also incorporating them fairly seamlessly into the season.

Jeff K

I'm going to see Brett Goldstein do standup on Friday night, so Simone, I'll let you know if he looks as good in person.

Jason Pratt

Argh! I see this as I get off- guess sleep will wait 😁

JediLounger

The theme of the first episode is not just talk, but communicate. Listening is key. People talk to each other without actually communicating all the time.

PureGonzo

No more Breaking Bad? :(

JediLounger
>>123802749

After this season of Ted Lasso is over they will do season 3, then the last season of Ted Lasso.

Rob M
>>123799729

Hahaha surely it’s not. Although I can’t think of what it could be

samuel Jakob

Well I for one dont understand why George takes such an issue with Rebecca and Sam. I am more like Simone on that one, they fit together really well and its not like Rebeccas Ex, because they found eachother without knowing who they are and learened they fit very well together like this. Rebeccas ex is a whole different story, baiting young woman as an wealthy old guy with no emotional connection what so ever. Overall I think especially with the discussion after the 8 Episode George is just looking for the worst possible outcomes and outlooks because he doesnt like it. :D Anyway I really enjoy these reactions especially because its my first time watching this show aswell.

Elder Lyons
>>123806294

while i dont agree with him, but he explained why he doesnt like it pretty well, definitely deserves more credit than "just looking for worst possible outcome". i think hes talking about the hypocrisy, that if the roles were reversed and its a man in his 50s dating a woman in her 20s, and hes her boss. there would be outrage even if the younger woman agrees to it and wants it. but when the gender is reversed, then suddenly its okay and very cute. i mean he even pointed out that initially it was rebecca who tried to walk away and gave the show credit for it.

JoshG

Simone I think if you rewatch the first season, now knowing about Ted’s dad, you’ll see certain scenes and dialogue that kind of hint to what happened. Something you may not have thought anything of at the time, but now makes more sense. That’s why I didn’t feel it was as big a drop

Monica Alarcon

You know what would be a good show to watch between breaking bad season 4 and 5? IT Crowd...

Cincassette

Scorsese’s 1985 film “After Hours” seems to be the main influence/reference on “Beard After Hours”. It’s an excellent movie you guys should check out at some point.

REDR58
>>123806791

There are definitely hints of it sprinkled in early episodes.

Onno Smits

My feelings on Sam/Rebecca, since you asked: I don't mind the age gap, they're both consenting adults, I think that's fine. But as someone who employs other people and knows what that dynamic is and feels like: You _cannot_ date your employees. It's extremely unethical and will end up a shitshow 99.9% of the time.

REDR58
>>123799545

It’s funny that something that was such a huge cultural institution like Mad Men is something they missed. Even wasn’t that long ago, well, 2015 doesn’t seem that long ago. Maybe it wasn’t big in Canada. I’ve never seen a single episode of Mad Men but I just assumed nearly everyone know who Don Draper is!

Pam Nail

- Season 2 originally aired over the late summer/early fall, so the Christmas ep originally aired well before Christmas. - Don Draper is the main character of Mad Men. Him sitting on the couch with his legs crossed is an iconic image from the show (but probably not if you haven't watched the show :P). - I'm mixed about Sam and Rebecca as well, for all the reasons you guys talked about. I do appreciate that this is not the kind of story that I would have expected to happen with either of these characters or the kind of romance that I would expect to be explored. - We did already know that Ted's dad died when he was 16 -- he talked about it in the dart game. We just didn't know it was suicide. - I love "Beard After Hours" and how experimental it is. I like that it gives us a break after the emotional prior episode. Others might mention it, but it's an homage to Martin Scorsese's "After Hours" (1985). With a little bit of "A Clockwork Orange" thrown in (the scene where Beard gets beaten up). Not really a growth episode but a peek behind the curtain of the mystery of Coach Beard. - Side note: Brendan Hunt wore those sparkly pants to the Emmys after party a couple of years ago. - Beard and Jane ... what a puzzle. I can't say I like it as a romance, but I kind of love that the show has a relationship like this because it feels real and unvarnished. I don't think the show is making judgments or "saying" anything either way about the relationship and whether it's good or bad. Just that these kinds of relationships exist.

Jon

the last episode was... sh!t :( ... it makes no sense, doesn't explain anything, ... as you said, it was a "filing" episode (one of the two episodes developed because this season was, at first, with 10 épisodes, but they had a "go" for making two more)... and that's always (97%) bad ones........... I really dont like what they did to Nate caracter this season (makes no sense... and especially at this speed), Rebecca and Sam is kind of weird (I don't have a problem with it, it''s just weird), ... the caracters development overall is not really good, ........... so yeah, overall, this season is not very good :( (change of producers ? writers ?)...... ... I fell like this is the beginning of the end, if they keep doin' that way

Jared Winn

Just finished the Man City episode 😭. To answer Simone’s question about Ted and his dad: I do believe there’s been maybe one or two times he’s mentioned his family and used past tense to describe his father, but my specific memory is the game of darts where he told the pub that he played “every Sunday from the time I was 12 until my father passed away when I was 16”(I’m paraphrasing probably) so it is known to some that his father is dead, but no one probably knows how or why.

Onno Smits

RE: Being blindsided about the info about Ted's dad being "dropped"; There are a fair few hints/signs/foreshadowings about that even in season 1. I personally assumed/guessed this already earlier in the season. And I saw another reactor already guess it even in season 1 based on some dialogue choices made back then.

JediLounger

I will be interested to see what you guys think of the pacing once you have the context of the entire season. The Beard episode was not filler. It was put there deliberately because episode 8 and 10 are a whole lot to take in. The confusion you had was shared by many when it came out, but I think it works once the season has played out.

Not Six Raccoons in a Trench Coat

About Ted's dad. In season 1, when playing dart against Rupert, he mentions that his dad died when he was sixteen. Earlier in season 2 (episode 2, about 19:20) Ted has a conversation with Jamie about strict dads. When Jamie asks about Ted's dad he responds: "My father was a lot harder on himself than he ever was on me."

mojo shivers

Rewatching episode 8 I noticed something that I hadn’t before. I knew it setup my favorite callbacks in season 3, but I noticed it’s actually setup in back-to-back scenes which is even more crazy of just how this show sets up seeds in its first two season that don’t get resolution to season 3. I can’t wait for you both to get there and have the joy of connecting all the lines and scenes that seemed throwaways that get their payoffs in the last season.

Skinny_Obelix

When it comes to pitch sizes there's the general rules of football which apply all over the world set by FIFA. That is 60m-80m wide and 80m-120m long. (Allowing for a square regulation pitch, even though I don't think one exists). Then every continent and country can narrow down on those rules as long as it's within those limits. Plenty of countries have a fixed size though. England being one of the exceptions. From a tactics point of view, the better your team the bigger you want the pitch, if you're a bottom league side you want it tighter because it makes it easier to defend. Very few times my job helps me out in this comment section, but I work for a Belgian team. Fun anecdote, I stood on the pitch in a sold out Wembley (Tottenham Hotspur vs KAA Gent) and it was one of the coolest experiences of my life, we also won the game so that made it a even better.

Ian Forbes
>>123807710

Great insight. I also got a small Run Lola Run reference when the lady in red tells Beard to run and the music kicks in as he starts to run, along with how so much of the ensuing sequence felt so dreamlike.

Onno Smits

I hate the Beard episode. I guess it's a reference to something. But it's just nothing like the rest of the show and I don't get the reference, so what's the point? Just skip it on rewatch and you don't miss anything.

Michael Kang-Beats
>>123812668

Yah. It's weird that non-football fans (usually Americans) think it's weird, but baseball doesn't have standard pitch sizes.

Michael Kang-Beats

Is anyone ever prepared to hear someone's dad killed themself?

Michael Kang-Beats

I haven't watched your reaction to the Beard episode, but I love the episode. I like that they took a big risk, and I think it works. Plus it has music by The Replacements in the episode. The Blue Moon could be representative of Manchester City, like the loss is hanging over him. The song is also significant.

Jeff K
>>123811660

And also, in season one, episode three, he says to Trent “And it ain’t always easy. But neither is growing up without someone believing in you.”

Ryan Skinner
>>123809003

Wow; I personally disagree with basically everything you said here. lol Some thoughts: 'Beard After Hours' was in fact written later, but getting to spend more time with that character and how he lives is a fantastic choice. Its placement is a little jarring after such heavy hitting moments with other cast, but never the less Beard is an integral character that deserved some focus. Seeing him as a whole person with a life and thoughts and feelings outside the team and his job is no different than seeing Ted coping with his family issues, or Nate taking his parents out for dinner, or Roy spending evenings with the Yoga Moms. Yes, all of those examples are scenes and not entire episodes, but given how little Beard we get off the pitch throughout the series, I think it's fair to say it balances out. Nate's arc is certainly divisive and people are going to have opinions on it (I think it's one of the most important, core character arcs of the entire series, personally), but suggesting it 'makes no sense?' Nah, it's all there, and having personally known people who I feel are reflected in Nate's personality, I think his turn, as frustrating and unfortunate as it may be, makes sense. If you go back and watch through things again, you might be surprised how many clues there are hinting at Nate's insecurities and behavioral red flags, all the way back to his earliest appearances in season 1. The "hurt people hurt people" adage is an oversimplification, but it really fits here. You say Sam and Rebecca is... "weird?" I mean... okay? I'm not sure what's weird about it. Two adults meet and develop a relationship, sometimes under uncommon circumstances: that's how the real world works. Not that weird? "Character development is not really good" / "overall season is not very good" - I mean, subjectivity trumps all, but I just completely disagree, and think Season 2 might contain my personal favorite character arcs and stories of the series. Cheers.

JP11

Jamie played for Manchester City in season 1. He was the one who scored the goal to relegate Richmond to the lower league. Thats why Jamies Dad has a Man City jersey with his name on the back

JP11

The reveal of Ted Lasso's father killing himself when he was younger was perfect. I have no idea what Simone is talking about. It's exactly the way you would expect it to come about. Ted has always been super private and uses his humour as a defence mechanism and a way of disarming people. Of course you’re not just going to know something that big the whole time.

Jeff K
>>123818276

Just one quick clarification, Jamie didn't score the goal, he assisted on it, which was the bittersweet component to the season one finale since it means Ted finally got through to him and taught him to be a team player.

REDR58

So Lasso telling the team that the pitch is exactly the same size as their field back home is a reference to the movie “Hoosiers” from 1986 (which Simone and George should watch) about a high school basketball coach and in which basketball courts are indeed the same size in all high school stadiums (84 feet long / 50 feet wide).

JP11

If you don't like it you don't like it, but I think you guys need to lighten up a bit. Not every episode of a show is going to be an absolute masterpiece in story telling. Some are made for no other reason then to entertain and maybe show a side of someone you don't see during the normal course of the story. That was the Beard episode. Don't take things so seriously.

Ste Rawlings

Nate's story this season is basically a test on the audience to see if they have actually learned lessons from Ted Lasso.

Ste Rawlings

Telling someone with issues clearly as deep-rooted as Nate's is pretty much like telling someone with depression to cheer up.

ThePVO

The show is a great example of how to communicate and deal with people, but it obliterates the concept of personal and professional boundaries. It's an interesting litmus test to see how people apply their desire and need for boundaries to the circumstances portrayed. Also, for those of us who grew up on network TV, 2/3 of a season used to be filler. A TV season was 22-24 episodes and we were lucky if 8 of those episodes were interconnected and developed character and story across the series.

Tony E Crumpton

Episode nine is my fave episode of the whole series. I understand why it's divisive, but for us "older" folks who grew up watching and loving the 80's movies to which it pays homage, it hits the spot.

Stephen Lund

Re: Ted's dad, in S1E8 during the dart scene Ted mentions that he played darts with his dad every weekend until he was 16 when his dad passed away. Then S2E2 while talking to Jamie at the bar, Ted mentions that his dad was always harder on himself than he was on Ted. Not explicitly setting up the reveal, but there are some breadcrumbs that can be caught on rewatch.

Terry Yelmene

Ep. 7 - Best moment of a reaction... Simone seeing the candle-lined bathtub Ep. 8 - Ted Lasso episodes are all great. That seems to be both Simone and George's view, just like so many of us TL fans. But with Ep. 8-Man City, you've finally gotten to the first of the MAJOR TRANSFORMATIONAL EPISODES of this fantastic series. The amazing discussion shared after, only emphisies the gravity and the elevation how consequential and wonderful television can be. Simone, about your concerns... this show is MORE THAN WHAT IT IS. Ted Lasso is not JUST a comedy show - it's a show for our collective humanity. Ep. 9 - Many people like this, the Beard episode... I do not! (and yes! this WAS the second filler episode.) IMPORTANT: Next up... 'No Weddings and a Funeral' an episode... for the ages!!!

Thomas

Episode 2X8 always gets me! When Roy hugs Jamie 😭😭 water works every single time. So, the FA cup is the oldest football competition in the world. It’s the tournament that allows EVERY SINGLE club a chance to compete. So even teams that are like 5 leagues down and play in front of 1 thousand ppl have a chance. It’s the only reason Richmond (a relegates championship team) can play Man City. Jamie’s dad got hit tickets from Richmond which is why he was sat in the Richmond section and the reason he was wearing Man City colors is because that’s the team he supports and Jamie used to play for them in season 1.

REDR58

Simone and George you should definitely watch Twin Peaks.

NobleProfession

Six Feet Under is funny, scary, extremely interesting, in season 4, vary disturbing, and it’s second to last episode is the second highest rated TV show episode on IMDB with a 4.9 even with like 50,000 votes. More people need to watch it. It also only has 1 reaction that hasn’t even finished it yet on YouTube so its fans like me want another reaction to watch.

REDR58
>>123825201

I very much prefer episodic storytelling but I also enjoy Beard After Hours. I have no issues with it at all. The change in tone is irrelevant to me as compared to the rest of the series because not everything needs be the same totally all the time.

Jack Burton

Why are you guys so grossed out and worried over two adults having a blind date? They are both adults. It's not like one is taking advantage of the other in any way. Also you don't remember that Jamie was on Manchester City when he left Richmond the first time. That's why his Dad has a jersey with his name on it. Rememeber when he left them to join the TV show?

Michael Green

Using "filler" outside of its proper context in anime has always struck me as a silly practice.

FischerMax98

Loved this ep. Beard is just as obsessed as Jayne. Their crazy matches up perfect. A relationship that is all brain/intellect, without passion, excitement and a little fear is not living. But it is safe. And boring. And common. Great wtf reaction, Lol. If you want a bad, pointless and toxic relationship, wait until next season.

akaTheBARON

🖤Hmmmm. So it's a movie that came out this year. Based on true events. Very grim in subject matter but overall good movie. I have two guesses. I haven't seen either yet but based on the description it could be either "Good Burger 2" or "Cocaine Shark" I have a third (and real) guess but I'll just wait and see.

Stephanie Bedworth

The Beard episode is the only one of the whole show that I really don't care for. A lot of people seem to love it though. I don't love Jane and Beard together either although they seem to be pretty compatible. It might be because I just don't like Jane. At all.

Zoe Hart

You reflections on Nate is spot on and is why he is the best character on this show. Also Sam and Rebecca is two consenting adults ffs. Also I you don't play, you can't win. Yes, worst case, he gets traded. People switch jobs all the time. Let people make their own choices. Sam doesn't have a problem with it - and he isn't ignorant - so why do you have a problem with it? Also Simone's eagerness to watch another episode is life.

Persnickity

I love this episode because its the weird Beard episode. Idk if Jane is good for him but it kind of makes a lot of sense. She did a lot of nonsense but you can tell he embraces nonsense. Beard is an enigma by choice

Zoe Hart
>>123808707

I partially agree. I have been in your situation so I understand where Rebecca is coming from. This is different though imo. He is the one with the power in this episode. HE is the one convincing her. There is no psychological power involved here - THAT is the difference.

Patrick

I usually can get every show/movie on one of my streaming services, but I cancelled my AppleTV. Every single torrent of episode 9 stopped working at the exact same spot around 18:38. I just wound up buying the episode.

Joey Johansen

I like the characters and enjoy the excuse to just expand on a character without every second being a progression of the dramatic plot points, in fact if the show had resumed the pace it was going with the phone call from Ted I think it was on the edge of being overwhelming. So this episode for me was like a welcome breather before we dive back into the heart. I like trusting something enough to let it have some wiggle room, and if it comes back it makes it that much more enjoyable and if not, well I had a good time already so I shouldn't forget that. :)

Chase Lonnergan

I love how Simone is rejecting the idea of Good People doing irrational and fucked up things in a highly emotional state, when talking about Rebecca... Like she has completely forgotten that the entire plot of Season 1 revolves around Rebecca attempting to ruin several dozen people's lives during a highly emotional and irrational state... Also, a reminder that Ted mentioned his dad once in this season by saying that he was "Harder on himself than other people" and then when Jamie said he was lucky, Ted non-committally agreed with him and looked sad for a second.

Andi Herr

I think the point about Beard and Jane's relationship is that, yes, she's all kinds of crazy. And he knows that and loves her for it. So, while I don't necessarily root for them as a couple, it's ultimately Beard's choice and I respect that. Regarding Sam and Rebecca, I agree with both of you. The whole point for Rebecca's character development is that she finally allows herself to fall in love, "live a little" and enjoy herself again after the divorce from Rupert. Which I love. But also, there's a reason why in some companies workplace relationships are supposed to be reported to HR. A power imbalance like this one can lead to all kinds of problems. Rebecca is a powerful woman, who could easily ruin Sam's career and livelihood, if she wanted to. At 21 he doesn't necessarily have the maturity to know what he's getting himself into.

Travis H

Before I get to my long ass post, George/Simone would posting the episode lengths for season 3 be helpful so you two don’t accidentally get spoiled or have to record 3+ hours of Ted Lasso one week? Anyways here are my thoughts on the 3 big topics of this week. Nate: I don’t like Nate as a person, but I like his story this season. If you rewatch the first season with the knowledge of what happens in season 2 it was clearly set up. The nastiness was there from the beginning but you look past it because he seems likable and is being picked on. It’s the classic story of the person who was picked on/mistreated by everyone (including his father), only to get power and become the bully that he hated. It’s a “hurt people, hurt people” situation and I think they do it well in the first two seasons. Sam/Rebecca: I don’t have a problem with it because I know these characters. If it was Rupert and Sam (or Rebecca without the character growth) I would have the same issues you two have. And if it was an older man with a younger woman people wouldn’t have any issues with it, hell it is essentially Leonardo DiCaprio entire personality! I also find it odd that a lot of people that want Rebecca and Ted to get together seem to have issues when it’s Rebecca/Sam but not with Rebecca/Ted. Beardisode: It’s not my favorite episode (or least favorite, that is later and nobody will agree with me), and I don’t think it is entirely successful. But i will always defend it because I like it when shows try something new. You don’t get it often anymore due to shortened season lengths and streaming, but they can sometimes create some of TVs best episodes. To use shows that George or Simone have seen, Scrubs episodes where the perspective shifted from JD to anyone else, episode 3 of Last of Us with the Bill and Frank love story, or with Buffy you got Hush, The Body, and the musical which are 3 all time great episodes! Those existed because the showrunners tried something different and I will always appreciate that even when it’s terrible (I am looking at you Greys Anatomy musical episode). As for Jane and Beard are they toxic….yeah probably. Does Jane come off a little (I hate calling people this but) crazy, yeah, but Beard is also out there. You have spent almost two seasons with him and you don’t really know anything about him at this point. He’s kinda a weirdo, a likable one because we have spent time with him and find him fun, but he is a complete mystery still. With that said no they are not my favorite couple but they also aren’t my least favorite. I will also say I don’t like episodes being called “filler” it’s a word thrown around a lot lately, but character development is not filler!

Jacob

Pretty much agree with you George on this episode, probably my least favorite of the series. Except for one point. I think your viewing Jane from the viewpoint of combability with yourself instead of Beard's. I think their energy matches up quite well. But the show definitely could use more developing of the relationship to understand it better as you said.

JBK405

My thoughts on Rebecca and Sam are thus: It's WRONG, but not BAD. What this means is that, as you noted (and as Rebecca herself noted), it is inappropriate for a boss to date an employee because of the power imbalance. That's a simple line, and it still applies here. It's wrong. Nothing else I say here will change the fact that it's wrong. But the fact that neither of them knew it -- that Rebecca didn't pursue him -- keeps it from being morally bad. She didn't seek him out in order to take advantage of him, which is what Rupert does with the young women that he dates. She didn't use her position or wealth to influence him. She also doesn't have a previous pattern of dating vulnerable men which can color this by association. Depending on the circumstances, intent matters almost as much as the action itself. Whether or not you MEANT to kill someone determines whether it's "murder" or "manslaughter". Actus reus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea ("the act is not culpable unless the mind is guilty"). Again, STILL WRONG, but a type of wrongness that I can understand as a mistake and error in judgement, not as a moral failing. Beard and Jane are ALL sorts of toxic and unhealthy, and the show explicitly does not want you to view this is a "good" relationship. They've had other characters point it out as well as portraying its problems for viewers to see. But sometimes people are drawn to that no matter how bad it is, and this is what Beard wants in his life.

Joits

I think Coach Beard and Jane's relationship is portrayed by the show as obviously toxic... and I also don't think they take it that seriously. I find it mildly hilarious but from what I've seen, its definitely seen as kinda weird by a lot of the fanbase.

Dee Aitch

The biggest reference is probably to "After Hours (1985)" a Scorcese film I haven't seen. The biggest three other references are "Run Lola Run (1998)", "A Clockwork Orange", and "Fight Club" ("Tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Sarah Coons' life"). I've never seen "After Hours", but I loved "Beard After Hours". It's the perfect episode for the perfect character. It was my favorite episode until the last two episodes of the series happened. Reading Jane's messages frame by frame is hilarious. They're perfect for each other. I really hope it works out for those kooky kids. And I'm with the romantic of Simone -- if two perfect people happen to be separated by 30 years, it's still a perfect relationship until proven otherwise. I really hope it works out for those kooky kids.

Dee Aitch
>>123840621

They didn't laugh at this, but I always did, even without knowing who Thierry Henry was. It was ridiculously absurd.

Keen7981

I highly recommend watching Cinema Therapy's (YouTube) two episodes on Ted Lasso. It's so good an incredibly insightful from both a mental health and filmmaking perspective. Might even make a good watch along to cap off the series. *Don't watch them until you finish the series because they include scenes from Season 3.

Joe D. MacGuffinstuff

Don Draper, from Mad Men, I actually just assumed you guys had already seen Mad Men, it was a huge show. Well, add it to the log because it's an amazing show. I'd say a fairly profound but nuanced meditation on modern society, capitalism, media, and it's kinda sexy too. It's one of those shows that's so well written that even the characters you hate are humanized and frighteningly familiar.

Logan Kerlee

Super enjoyed these episodes with you both. :) Love this show! Very happy to be rewatching it with you guys.

HeyHeyJK
>>123867596

"After Hours" is one of my favorite Scorcese films, more so than his most popular ones, and highly recommended. Um, that's the end of this comment, I guess.

Garrett Mazzuca

I'm watching this for the first time with you guys, so I don't know where these relationships are going. But here's my 2 cents anyway lol. In my opinion, Rebecca and Sam are a fine pairing. The thought experiment of saying "if the roles were reversed and Rupert did this" is a (somewhat) false equivalence. Rupert is a selfish and hurtful man that uses relationships as a form of control. That's why, when he was devastated at Richmond's loss last season, there was no one who cared or comforted him. He will always be alone. I don't think Rebecca and Sam will fall into that cycle. The relationship might not last, but at least they will be compassionate with one another. Probably just what Rebecca needs to heal. As far as Coach Beard and Jane, all I can say is, sometimes relationships can't be judged when on the outside looking in. Sometimes they don't feel like they should work or are messy, but that's life. Beard is happy when he's with her...that's enough for now imo. Interested to see where it goes.

bfunk3778

Soooooo George is saying you can’t love who you love? Brave Stance George. Love is irrespective of gender and certainly age. It’s all about intentions. Making the analogy between Rebecca and Rupert is a false analogy. Rupert with a 21 year old girl has totally different intentions than Rebecca has with Sam. Sam’s not a child. He’s an adult man and can make his own choices. Stop hating on them.

Elder Lyons
>>123901811

Soooooo you are saying you intentionally ignored 90% of the points he was actually making just so you can defend something that sounds more like you trying to justify your own possibly creepy intentions irl? cause both G and S spent most of the discussion about the power dynamic and that she is his boss, and holds his visa to be in the country. but you seem to be focused on the "age is just a number" argument, which sounds more like its a sensitive topic for you personally cause others have called you out on it perhaps?

Keen7981

As to the potential relationships in the show, personally I choose not to think too hard about them, for two reasons. First, I don't armchair quarterback something I am not a part of. Simply put, I don't have enough information. I'm not inside their heads, I can't possibly say what would be good for them or not. That ties into my second reason very closely though, which is that I've seen a lot of relationships that "weren't supposed to work" actually develop into very loving and fulfilling relationships. As to Rebecca and Sam, well my dad was 21 years older than my mom and they stayed together and loved each other until he passed away. Age is just a number and isn't nearly as important as the emotional maturity of the people involved. Regarding Coach Beard and Jane, who knows? Certainly not us, having even less information than the Diamond Dogs.

Elder Lyons
>>123908802

i agree with most what you said, but when your parents met, was your mom working for your dad? where there was a risk of "if i dont do what he says he might fire me" hanging over her? and was she an immigrant with a work visa thats attached directly to her job and him being her employer? i think thats the power dynamic S&G are talking about.

Kristian Dahl

I understand what George is saying, and it really is quite a complex dynamic. That said, I also feel like it is quite an infantilizing of adult humans to really restrict who they are allowed to date for fear of things going wrong. There is no doubt they have to be careful with what they do, but people are also capable of acting professional. So in terms of power dynamic I understand how it feels weird, at the same time I feel like consenting adults should be allowed to make their own decisions. Even when those decisions seem bad to others, and even if they in the end regret those decisions. Some might not be capable of acting as adults, but at the same time I feel like that would have been a problem regardless of existing dynamic.

Scott G

Holy crap! I just realized you guys have never done a Mike Flanagan show. I hereby request you react to either The Haunting of Hill House or Midnight Mass.

The Film Effect

One more week of this…then it’s Breaking Bad time!

ChickensAreRacist

DaVinci Code? Sorry George. You’re wrong as all get out. It’s 3-4 pages a chapter which makes the reader feel like they’re reading fast and getting all the info. Many many facts are there, it’s just that the book leads to a conspiracy theory. But those facts along the way are compelling as heck. There’s a reason it was so popular.

Kris

I can see why these relationships feel maybe… ambiguous? But for me, the show’s not trying to make you necessarily root for either of the couples and is very clear on why they are in fact not good decisions. Rebecca says exactly why she shouldn’t pursue things with Sam. Jane sending 70 texts in 3 hours is psychotic behavior. But, it is what it is lol Sam and Beard are adults who make bad decisions too. There are so many directions both relationships could go. The Beard episode was weird for me too and I haven’t seen most of the movies everyone says it references but also, I think Beard is an interesting character, so I still enjoyed the weird. I thought the sucker punch of ted’s dad was kind of brilliant. Yes, unexpected but also the show had established from the start that under the funny and wholesome are some very very sad real life situations. And we’ve really only scratched the surface with ted but we still knew he was a deep character. So while it was shocking to hear it wasn’t surprising to me that ted was holding on to something that traumatic. About having the beard episode right after the shock of ted’s dad, I actually think it was a good way to give a breather maybe? Ted’s going to have to talk about his dad and after all of the other heavy things that ep, we needed a weird little break? ha

Tomas
>>123917961

This. So much this. There's nearly always going to be a difference in power dynamic in some way. But as an adult, Sam is capable of deciding whether to accept or reject that power dynamic himself, and there's nothing inherently wrong with either decision, nor is there anything wrong with Rebecca allowing Sam to make that decision for himself. Neither of the characters are children who would be going into a relationship with a lot of ignorance.

jackthegent

yall should watch the sopranos next

UNC

Would love Succession as another show to watch after Ted Lasso. Also Better Call Saul is a must after Breaking Bad. Much love!

DinChild

Severance does NOT get enough attention. Maybe even Bojack Horseman or Barry. The Ted Lasso vibe isn't an easy one to find. Uploaded and Shrinking come to mind, but they aren't as solid.

Conner

Episode 9 with Beard is basically entirely made up of movie references. The fight between Beard and Jamie's dad was A Clockwork Orange thing for instance.

KingCorza

I also didn't really enjoy the Beard After Hours episode when I first saw it, the whole episode is an homage to the 1985 Scorsese film After Hours and this episode is better for me after having watched that film!

Aaron Gunstone
>>123831775

It's commonly used in anime, but in what way is that its "proper" context? Any episode that serves no real purpose - no character development, no advancement of the overall story - is filler.

Jeff K
>>124091564

It's been years since I've seen Clockwork Orange but holy shit, I still should have picked up on that, given what an iconic shot that is in the movie. And James Tartt's cronies are definitely droogs.

Jeff K
>>123800367

UPDATE: Brett is awesome, I encourage anyone who has the chance to see him do standup do so. Also, I dunno if it's because he's still prepping for further work in the MCU, but he's looking almost distractingly ripped these days. Like, not quite Kumail levels, but he's getting there.

Geoffrey Cano

So it's known that Apple/Warner asked the writers for 2 more episodes. My theory based on nothing is that the writers maybe didn't appreciate that and as a result turned in the Christmas ep and the Beard one. They used the Beard ep to do something completely out of left field. Personally I like this episode more than the Christmas one. What better way to develop the Beard character than with the oddest story of the whole series so far.

Astraeos
>>123827414

I would kill for ANYBODY to react to that show. Damn fine coffee.

Liam Sluyter

BeardAfter Dark IS weird. But I kinda liked it. The big Blue Moons are likely a nod to Man City having Blue Moon as their club theme. The rest of the madness, though, I can't easily explain.

mky

In case no one has already mentioned this, there's a 1985 Martin Scorsese movie called "After Hours", in which the main character (played by Griffin Dunne) meets a cute/slightly off woman (Rosanna Arquette) in a diner after work one night. She writes her number in a book he's reading, and after he goes back to his apartment, he decides to give her a call. So begins his surreal journey into late night '80s NYC/Soho where he spends most of the movie just. trying. to. get. home. It's a wonderfully bent movie full of odd, mostly harmless characters...nothing like any other Scorsese movie I can think of. One of my favorites.

Kieran Pegler

George and Simone do you both not recall rooting for Ted and Rebecca to hook up? Rebecca's ted's boss.

Rupert Purcat

Beard has always had weird experiences and deep knowledge of strange things. His episode occurred on a blue moon (once in a blue moon) - and we finally had a chance to see what happens to Beard after dark. In regard to Simone, I mean Jayne she is kind of weird and broken, but maybe to the same degree Beard is. My favorite episode.

Moon Logic

You should watch Twin Peaks. It is not super scary at all.

Glass (+ the Machines of God)

Why does it HAVE to be a reference to something? It's just a silly episode in a comedic show.... don't gotta look so deep into a show like this you silly willys.

Gary Fixler

I have a feeling that when Higgins said they should write songs about fathers and sons, he (or the writers) were referencing a very popular in it's day (1970) Cat Stevens song, "Father and Son." I've always loved that one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6zaCV4niKk

Jeffrey LaClair

pitch the same size is a reference to Hoosiers amazing movie

Jeffrey LaClair

The difference between Rupert and Rebecca is Rupert is a scumbag and has no respect or feeling for others Sam and Rebecca found each other and share feelings that aren't always the right choice but it is serendipity

Jeffrey LaClair

I loved Beards Night it showed us who he is as a man it took him out of Ted's shadow and gave him depth for an amazing character weird, absolutely but so is Beard

Shelly D

I also think the context for the reveal about Ted's father is really important. Yes, it was extremely intense of a couple of moments, getting that reveal after the scene with Jamie's father. However, as we've seen in the depictions of Ted's panic attacks, he is quite often triggered in situations regarding other character's parents or parental figures in people's lives; first with Rebecca's singing, she is seen as an important adult figure in Nora's life, and she's singing to her; at the match, it was after we saw Jamie score that really incredible goal, and we already knew Jamie did not have a good relationship with his father. So, once again after a scene with Jamie's father, it makes sense that Ted was affected, and then would take that moment to reveal his experience with Sharon because part of the episode was about them both opening up to each other about their true feelings. Also, I just wanted to echo what everyone else said about getting tiny glimpses into Ted's family, from the darts scene in season 1, to Jamie and Ted talking about their fathers at the bar when Jamie is asking to come back to Richmond. While, I don't think we can expect people to catch everything in this show on first watch, I do think it's good to remember that throughout these two seasons, the show writers have been extremely intentional about nearly everything they put in the show.

Amelie W
>>124690189

We can just say Beard goes to great lengths to make his life interesting. And hallucinates people berating him when he's angry with himself.

Beddoe

I'm just catching up on your Ted Lasso reactions so sorry for the very late post. You mentioned Twin Peaks during the reaction. It is a great show and I hope you will put it on a poll. I believe it has 30 hour long episodes (minus commercials) over 2 seasons. It does have some scary parts but it's '1990's network television' scary. I would say it is more disturbing than scary. Thanks !

Pearl Jam

I was watching Ted Lasso when they were first airing and was loving it, but S2E9 (the Beard episode) took me out of it. I haven’t seen anything after it. While I love his character, this whole episode was too much. I was’t sure what was real, what was in his head, how I felt about his relationship, anything. Now that I’ve seen your reaction to it I’m glad I wasn’t the only one with those thoughts. I also had reservations about the Sam & Rebecca relationship from S2E8, pretty much the same issues you two brought up in your reaction. Again, glad I wasn’t the only one. I’m here today because I decided to give it another go. Just rewatched all the previous episodes, this time with the two of you, and am about to continue on with my first time watch of the rest of the series. Having the two of you along for the ride has been great motivation to see it through to the end. Thanks for doing what you do… being you. TTFN.

Amelie W

There's a story about Isaac we only see the barest outline of. He has some unspecified motor difficulties; in the curse episode his sacrifice is a special pen he needs to write his name, and later on we see he has trouble aiming the simplest shots with the football (although his kicks has unbelievable power). So it probably means something when the whole team stands and watches when he gives Sam a haircut. And as for Margaret Beard's little boy, we see here how he goes out of his way to make his life not easy or safe but rather weird. What could he want out of a relationship that goes on longer than five minutes? Probably exactly what Jane gives him.

Odd Thomas

The filler episode has zero to do with David Lynch. Simone, scary is the wrong word; creepy would be a better description of Twin Peaks. It's more of a surreal murder mystery. But it's also funny.

Ron Fatica

Ted mentioned his father died when he was 16 in the darts episode.

Fraser S

idk if anyone said this and its pointless now really cause its been like a year and a half but the beard episode is a reference to the Martin Scorsese movie named "After Hours", hence the name being "Beard After Hours". Which i highly recommend, one of Scorseses best!