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This is not a first time, its a re-watch / commentary just for fun.

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Commentary | The Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of The Ring Extended | Hang Out | Rewatch | - Part 2

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Jennifer McKenzie

If you want something less fantastical to bridge the gap to Tolkien - you could try movies based on King Arthur. They’re something he had as inspiration. In my head that’s kind of the English equivalent to Wuxia. Have either of you seen Excalibur from 1981?

Jordan Barnes

Dragonheart (1996) would be a great introduction to western historical culture with a nice mix of fantasy. Lovely cheesy 90s dialogue with decent graphics for the time, and iconic 90s actors. For example, I don’t think he needs to be told what a Western dragon looks like but he’ll learn shit like “in this universe, they breathe fire and have armored skin” if he doesn’t already know. As far as LOTR goes, I think if he understands the concept of a wizard, and has no problem accepting fantasy species like elves, he doesn’t need to know absolutely everything about their lore to comprehend and become immerse in the storyline. We all learned about dwarves, elves, vampires, etc. in different ways, through dif means, and understand they’re different from universe to universe. Also to mirror the comment above, there’s a good bit of “round table, King Arthur, knights code of honor” in Dragonheart which would be a good introduction to Gondor’s culture.

Ryan Skinner

Love you guys, and love that you're putting this out there! I have so many memories from my 41 years wrapped up in these stories. Most recently I attended an in-theater Extended Edition marathon in January, which was awesome to get to do (albeit I did see each of the films multiple times in their original releases). Exhausting, but awesome. :D On a less upbeat note, I wanted to say that the wholesale disregard for The Rings of Power is a bummer, and I hope, as Simone suggested, that a second chance is given to it. So much negativity is wrapped up in its existence for a lot of really bogus reasons (which I'm not at all suggesting either of you subscribe to, mine), which has made it hard for the good that it has going for it to be acknowledged. I think it's just important to note that, just like PJ's films, it's an adaptation (and equally important- a stand-alone adaptation, not one meant to directly connect to the films, as hard as it may be for fans to divorce the two), and any adaptation from written word to screen will ALWAYS require creative liberties and modifications for the adapted medium. This was true of Jackson's work, too; Jackson simply had infinitely more ACTUAL written words to adapt from, while RoP are working in a space which was largely NOT ever written about. Their story is instead filling in gaps between major signposts they've adapted only. I understand how that can seem off-putting to purists, who will decry it as little more than "fan fiction" at that point, but I just don't see the harm in it, nor do I see the project nearly worth the level of vitriol it receives. There's certainly aspects of it which are lacking: several actors performances aren't exactly award-worthy, and some mythology they're playing with regarding mithril (I won't get into specifics in the event either of you actually do watch it) is a little head-scratchy, but overall I think it's a worthwhile journey, and I think it will become increasingly appreciated as further seasons are released. #DefensiveSoapBoxOver :) Cheers guys, and thanks again. <3

Ryan Skinner

Oh also! @ ~26:00 - the Instagram handle in question that Simone couldn't remember is ExLibrisMir - and she is delightful. :D

Ryan Skinner

Just finished part 2, so I have to share at least one of my own stories about these movies. When I was young (like, maybe 5ish years old?) I had a Rankin & Bass read-along record for The Hobbit that I enjoyed (if you're unfamiliar, its essentially a record accompanied by a hyper-abridged children's book with images from the R&B animated film, and the record reads the story to you and tells you when to turn the page). I was later gifted a paperback copy of The Hobbit (the iconic edition with the awful cover art that makes Bilbo look like Otho from Beetlejuice lol). Those were my only exposure to Tolkien growing up, but I always enjoyed them. I had heard the phrase "The Lord of the Rings" at some point, but was never actually exposed to those books; only The Hobbit. Fast forward to 2001, I'd just turned 19, and this exciting new movie is coming out which, to my knowledge, is based on the characters from The Hobbit. Great! Then, wait a second, "Frodo?" Isn't the main character's name Bilbo? That's weird. Well, whatever, midnight showing let's go! 3 hours later I'm looking at my watch and thinking: "jesus, how long is this going to be if they're that far away from the volcano still?" - I somehow DIDN'T REALIZE it was going to be a trilogy (because again, my brain somehow managed to never acknowledge/retain the existence of the LotR books at all), so when Frodo and Sam walk down the hill, and the screen fades to black, and then credits roll- well, you can imagine my confusion! LOL But I loved the movie so, SO much, and promptly went out and bought a big hardcover copy of the entire trilogy (but didn't read past Fellowship at first, as to not spoil future movies for myself! haha). I still have that edition on my shelf, with an accompanying copy of The Hobbit, and several other editions of the core 5 legendarium books. Man, so much love for this stuff. Can't wait to re-watch the other films along with you guys!

jyol

Feanor asked Galadriel for a single hair three times.. to make the Silmarils.. She refused him. thats why her gift to Gimli is so incredible.

Lola Lirola

So, there's a specific movie that is Lord of the Rings "light", and that is Willow (1988). George Lucas said he 'had the idea for Willow while working on Star Wars', but seriously that's horseshit, because the movie is 100% the plot of LotR, with the same type of creatures, the same quest, everything, but like a counterfeit version, very abridged and simplified, and it obviously can't compare to *the* LotR movies, but it still came out very charming and entertaining! It has Warwick Davies (of Star Wars and Harry Potter megafame) as not-a-hobbit, who finds a magic baby instead of a ring, and has to protect it against Bavmorda (which does not at all sound like Mordor, shut up) and her not-Nazgul-why-do-you-ask dogs. There's also Val Kilmer as more-naked-Aragorn (here called Madmartigan), a 'fairy queen' who wishes she was Galadriel, a couple of pixies who are Merry and Pippin merged with elves, and so forth. It was even shot in New Zealand! That's foreshadowing right there. A lot of the beats are the same, and it's just 2h all the way so still shorter than Fellowship's theatrical run. And, even if you don't end up showing it to your dad, I think it would be a very fun reaction for you guys to do, comparing it to LotR. It obviously can't stand a chance against what are truly legit all-time masterpieces of cinema, but it is fun to see how they did a simplified version of the story, and how it works. And the movie is very fun, I swear!

Dazzler & Em

Thank you George and Simone for doing this film and hopefully the other two. Amazing commentary, you are correct in stating that these films are the foundation of pretty much all western fantasy. Everyone will have an individual favourite but I don't think many will disagree that combined they tell the story in a perfect way.

Dazzler & Em

Simone and George have either of you read the dragonlance books? They are based on D & D and introduced me to that type of storytelling and at the time became books that I would constantly think about and appreciate.

Hamesque

So one movie down, 2 to go. And then of course you'll have to do videos of the behind the scenes documentaries for each movie. And then you'll have to do another watch through with the cast a crew commentaries, and then one with the director and writers commentary, and then the design team one, and then the production team.

Jonah

This was fun. Can't wait for the other 2!

Chris Bruneau

I sure many others have noticed this --but Simone has a tattoo in elvish (Tengwar) on her arm! I wonder what it says?

Chris Bruneau

BTW, Boromir had the greatest death scene ever--not a dry eye in the theatre!

G Lam

I like the idea of an occasional rewatch... it's something that doesn't really exist out there... everyone is "first time watching". But I did feel like rewatching The Abyss, and was surprised to see you guys haven't covered it. If you've not seen it, it's got an interesting development history. It was notably hard on the cast! One major cast member nearly died during production, and broke down afterward. Another cast member lost their shit and screamed at the director who demanded take after take. One of the cast refuses to talk about the production of this movie, because it was such an ordeal. And from a theatrical aspect, the CGI developed in this movie paved the way for Terminator 2. if you've both seen it already, it may be an option for a re-watch.. but I guess you'll be doing LOTR trilogy first... Which I'm also pretty okay about.

Pepijn Schmitz

I don't feel there are that many cultural references or assumptions in the Lord of the Rings, to be honest. I've seen so many people who claimed not to be into fantasy instantly get and be drawn into these movies, also from non Western cultures. Maybe you're selling your father short, George, I think you can just show him them (assuming there's a Mandarin dub of course).

Tim Miller

So glad you guys did this rewatch, hope you will do the other two movies as well! If you're interested in Tolkien lore which might answer some of your questions, you should check out the Youtube channel "In Deep Geek", he does great videos on fantasy worlds like LOTR, ASOIAF and The Witcher.

Lex Kuzma

I say don't bother trying to ease your dad in to western fantasy. Just start with the best. As a comparison, I went into Mr. Vampire (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089371/) cold and fucking loved it. My Chinese GF explained some context after the fact, but that film was a blast just taken as-is. Same goes for some other more "fantasy" Chinese films I've seen but can't remember the names of. I think a good film is self-explanatory.

Jon

@George, mayhaps start with Princess Bride? I feel that's a light enough fantasy 101 movie.

Dwight Donaldson

Completely agree on this. You 2 have far more understanding of the lore of this world than 99% of people who watch and but love these movies. You don't need any understanding of western mythology to understand the themes and messaging of the series that make it beautiful; friendship, honor, courage, sacrifice, etc.

Angela D. Mitchell

What always moves me as a silent detail is that Aragorn wears Boromir's bracers for the rest of his life. They are even present in Arwen's vision of mourning him at his tomb.