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Amadeus (Patreon)

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2024-02-10 13:00:06
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Amadeus | Canadian First Time Watching | Movie Reaction | Movie Review | Movie Commentary

Full length/Unedited: https://www.patreon.com/Cinebinge https://www.instagram.com/cinebingechannel/ Merch: https://www.cinebinge.ca BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/cinebinge.bsky.social Simone & George are reacting to Amadeus for the first time! Canadians React! 00:00 - Intro 01:38 - Amadeus 37:45 - Discussion Subscribe | Like | Share | Comment Early Access & Full Reaction available on Patreon! #moviereaction #moviereview #amadeus Instagram: @cinebingechannel Instagram: @simone.swan Movie Reactions: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLN1ts9cZbHakYDfILlxWOp8Rwm60i6s31 The Witcher Reactions: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLN1ts9cZbHakPpBOOSyThaEu9GBs7h5af Squid Games Reaction: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLN1ts9cZbHakSIA0kJIJkUmcxmms0m_Q0 Band of Brothers: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLN1ts9cZbHanBD7cksu-blgCyxZOJrgT0 Blind Playthrough: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLN1ts9cZbHan3qPNF7wNbOvo653VjhxOR

Comments

horrible

Halfway through this reaction video and I'm still trying to figure out if Mozart's laugh is a musical masterpiece or if my speakers are broken.

Matt O'Keefe

I am guessing you just watched Eyes Wide Shut based on the visual hint.

michael clarke

i heard a fact about this film the other day. apparently the entire thing was lit with natural lighting. watching it with that knowledge, its hard to believe, but apparently true. i looked it up. though he had two sons, they apparently had no offspring.

j c

And now George finally understands "Dr. Zaius Dr. Zaius.....Dr. Zaius Dr. Zaius...." *synth solo*

Pam Nail

This was a play first (Peter Shaffer adapted his own play for the movie), and at the time, then-Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher (whose favorite composer was Mozart) wrote a very angry letter to Shaffer -- very offended at the idea that Mozart was portrayed as such a profane, dirty-minded imp. Shaffer wrote her back, saying that while a lot of the film was fictionalized, Mozart's obscenity and scatological humor was well documented in real life. Shaffer even sent with this letter some copies of real letters Mozart sent, to prove what he was saying. Thatcher still refused to believe it. #fakenews I love this film so much. It's in my top ten of all time. The scene where Salieri takes dictation on the "Confutatis" is so incredible. Every time I hear that music now, my ear can pick out every piece of the vocals and orchestrations -- all because of that scene. I think it's the best use of diagetic music in any movie I've ever seen.

Byron
>>129338209

Mark Hamill played Mozart in the play (after Tim Curry). He was in the running to be in this movie, but the director felt that Luke Skywalker as Mozart would be too distracting.

JoeE
>>129334667

Also the “he killed Mozart” reference from Last Action Hero

Michael

Amadeus is worth watching to understand that throwaway joke in Last Action Hero.

Darin Foat

Regarding the American accents - once Forman had cast Tom Hulce (an American) as Mozart, he decided to cast the rest of the film with American actors as well, so that everyone would sound consistent. Most of the cast are doing a sort of mid-Atlantic accent, but they're all Americans. Modern, English speaking audiences have developed the expectation that everyone in the past should sound British, regardless of where or when a story takes place. But that's not really accurate either. In reality none of these people would be speaking English at all.

bfunk3778

Thank you so much for doing this movie. I’m a classically trained musician and this movie was huge for me when I was a kid. One of my favs. While they did do Salieri dirty in this I loved F Murray Abraham’s performance and frankly if you do listen to Salieri’s music it frankly is a bit more clunky than Mozart. Theres a reason Mozart is eternal. Oh and if you’re interested in another good movie about a classical composer check out “Immortal Beloved”. It stars Gary Oldman as Beethoven and I think it’s very underrated.

Ginger

Looking forward to "Eyes Wide Shut" then :) <3

golfextreme

Love this movie and great reaction. In a round about way, it reminds me to recommend a movie. F Murray Abraham won the Oscar for best actor beating out Jeff Bridges for Starman that year. Starman is a great John Carpenter movie that you should watch.

Happy Hanukkah

My dear good friend Londo Mollari! [Hint: movie poster.]

Happy Hanukkah
>>129350754

Simone and George already know that Gary Oldman is quite the Beethoven fan. :-) (Stansfield, at your service.)

Happy Hanukkah
>>129363682

Continuing with the poster: "The man. The music. The madness. The murder. The motion picture." The mad-literation! "Everything you've heard is true." In the sense that what we've heard is the music, and the music is the capital-T Truth. Everything else, including this movie, is just insignificant stories.

Kyle King

As dirty as it does Salieri, the speech at the end about being the saint of mediocrity hits so hard. One of my personal favorite speeches.

Happy Hanukkah

This movie disappointed from the very start. Imagine ripping off such a memorable opening fanfare from The Phantom of the Opera! The actor Simone recognized at the beginning is the quite recognizable Vincent Schiavelli. He has been in many fine movies, but I particularly remember his hilarious short turn as the sommelier in Two Much*. ** 4:32 : "The man had no ear at all; he adored my music!" :-) (* This should not be interpreted as a recommendation of the movie.) (** Appropriately enough, Schiavelli was also in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.)

Happy Hanukkah

I fear some of you may have missed this: For those of you unwilling or unable to commit to a feature-length film, Simone has created a one-woman half-minute ADHD version of this movie, and has kindly made it available at 39:17.

Luna Seydoux

I don’t know how to watch the theatrical cut.

Daniel Bjork

Peter Shaffer wrote Amadeus as a play before it was turned into a film. The play had less scenes with Mozart and focused more on Salieri’s anger with God. Internal religious strife was a common theme in Shaffer’s plays, and was central to his other best known work, Equus. Shaffer added more scenes with Mozart for the film and added some more humor. The broadway premier of the play had Ian McKellen as Salieri, Tim Curry as Mozart, and Jane Seymour as Costanze. While the play/film are fiction in terms of Salieri’s hatred for Mozart, Mozart very much did have a rather juvenile sense of humor, and particularly enjoyed fart/poop jokes, though the childish nature of his character is exaggerated here.

Renee MeowMeow Beans

If I remember correctly, Tom Hulce learned to play for this movie, including the part where he's upside down.

James Falato

It seems the Play and Film Versions of "Amadeus" took a "popular" unfounded belief by many - at the time of Mozart's Death - that Mozart's Death was caused by a bitter rivalry between Salieri and Mozart... A belief Salieri denied existed till His Own Death...

Crystal

the director, Milo's Forman, was known for doing a lot of movies about "the outsider", see also The People vs. Larry Flint, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Man on the Moon. He does great work, IMHO.

Stephen

loved this movie, hope you guys also do black swan! that movie is crazyyy I know you guys will like it

JBK405

Motzart's life is far from a specialty of mine, but you are correct that this film is infamously inaccurate in its portrayal of almost every aspect of his composing and his relationship with Salieri. This isn't a criticism of the film itself, which is masterfully done, but everything it has is based on urban legends and rumors that were either never believed in the first place, or believed but then debunked later. For example, there were rumors that Motzart and Salieri had a bitter rivalry, but Salieri himself denied them to his final days and there's no outside documentation. Motzart also DID need to draft his music and make corrections, the "he writes it perfectly in one go" story came from examining the FINISHED pieces after he had them re-copied. Things like that. It's like if somebody made a celebrity biopic today based solely on what they read in the tabloids. It can still be a great film, but if you try to claim "accuracy" that's a no-go.

Thoko
>>129714662

Very true. I especially dislike how they portray him as a father and a husband. They show him as unfaithful and as unable to financially support his family, both of which were untrue. I read a translated letter written by Mozart where he says that he is tired of people spreading rumors about him womanising and that he was way too scared of STDs to have more than one partner.

Jonathan Wyman

It's a shame the real Mozart had to f it all up by not conforming to the fictionalized masterpiece created about his work. Imagine being the only person in the room (maybe on earth) with the musical knowledge and ability to recognize how great the music is. And that it will live on while yours will disappear. I love the scenes that connect the moments in his life that became immortalized in his work. It was a very powerful stage play, witnessing the overwhelming loathing mixed with self loathing that Salieri had. It is interesting to see this paired with Black Swan which plays in many of the same themes of art and madness. I think the films are similar in tone as well.

Thoko
>>129915320

As a musician, I find it strange to hear you talk about "the only person with the knowledge and ability to recognize how great the music is". That's like if I make a sandwich and tell everybody that I'm the only person with the knowledge and ability to recognize just how tasty it is. It doesn't make sense. Here is how art works: people in the 1700s were used to 1700s music, but they're also starting to get bored of 1700's music. So Mozart had to make music that was not too different from what they're used to, but not too similar either. Its like he was the Kurt Cobain of his time, helping to establish the grunge era

Angela D. Mitchell

I was good friends with a few musicologists, so it's fascinating to discuss Amadeus with anyone in the classical music world. They mostly love the movie, but it's of course also inaccurate -- but they also know that Peter Schaeffer was deliberately inaccurate. He wanted to write a story about envy and genius, and so he simply took Salieri's suicide attempt and murder claim as fact, and went from there. If it helps, George, I don't think Schaeffer was seeking to villainize Salieri -- if anything, he immortalizes him -- but it is interesting to wonder what the poor guy would have thought of this! Meanwhile, I think the movie is a masterpiece for so many reasons, and I'm so glad that you reacted to the theatrical version, since I really dislike the director's cut of this -- it makes everyone much worse people, honestly, and was unnecessary. As a little bit of trivia, Constanze was in fact an amazing guardian of Mozart's work and letters after his death, and she famously burned several of his letters and other personal papers to protect his legacy. The human side of me understands this, but the historian side screams at the insights we lost. As far as the film's accuracy, the instrumentation itself is pretty modern, and I really wish the movie had used more period-appropriate instruments (including gut strings), but the Academy of St. Martin in the Fields, led by Neville Marriner, does a lovely job of playing the work. The conducting by Mozart and Salieri is just as accurate as the fingering and musicianship we see, although it is very "modern" conducting, as the conductors of the time used a lot less arm movement. I love the final back and forth between Mozart and Salieri because it is so many things at once. It is a love duet, for at last Salieri can be open about his love for Mozart and his music and they can actually work together -- and it is also a vampire draining his prey, as we see Mozart getting weaker and weaker as Salieri picks up the cues faster and faster, as if he is gaining life as Mozart dies. It's just such a moving film for so many reasons. And the music lives on, and it will live forever -- both Salieri's, and Pergolesi's (whom we heard here), and Mozart's most of all.