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Vinland Saga 1 x 18 (Patreon)

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2025-11-26 19:16:34
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2026-04-20 06:25:54
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Carlo Marasigan

Love this episode. I always go back to the priest’s speech about love. Many people think about Christianity as preaching unconditional faith, but forget that it also asks us to unconditionally love. What do you think about Canute saying “I no longer seek (father’s) approval?” Did he mean the king? In the context I thought he meant God. He seems to realize that the requirement for unconditional love is impossible and it is now time for him to act to create his own paradise as opposed to God’s paradise.

Erjon Sejdijaj

I always find reactions to this episode to be interesting because basically everyone, no matter the background or literacy, reacts the same to the "it's discrimination" line. It's such a loaded word that I don't blame anyone - hell, I did the same myself. And yet, as years have passed and I have been sitting with the idea, I have been unable to dispel it. If anything, the belief has only strengthened. If death makes one perfect, it is also what gives meaning to our lives, and if that perfection is in the form of love, then the meaning to our lives should be that very same love. The idea of a true warrior gets much more fleshed out through the entirety of the story, but this is the first time a "baseline" of sorts gets concretely defined. To be completely selfless, to give from yourself without a word of complaint. And yet, the man who haunts the narrative the most, who is framed as some mythical figure who we should all strive to be, that man sacrificed his beliefs to save his own son. Even he, in his last living moments, discriminated as we all must. He still had to rely on a sword. His only "absolution" was in death, where he found, in his mind, the only solution which saved everyone else's lives. It's a theme present in every single conflict from this season, especially in hindsight. Ragnar in episode 14 pleaded with Askeladd to spare the villagers not because it was the right thing to do, but because "they're Christians." They were "one of us," so they deserved to be spared. In episode 15, the English hostage doesn't want to hear about the history of beast spiel, as the english are "one of us" and shouldn't be kept accountable of their sins. In this episode, Atli said after stabbing Bjorn: "or else my buddies-". Again, they're relevant because they're "one of us," creating an in-group based on artificial attributes that manifests itself in selective behaviour. It's *literally* discrimination. Another fun part about this episode is the way the A and B plot interact with each other. Thorkell asking what a true warrior is, being answered by canute saying "are you asking me what love is?" Another fun one is Thorfinn saying "it's still too shallow," before Canute expands on the priest's wisdom and takes it another step further by concretely absconding God. It's just so masterfully done. I would also be remiss, seeing how long this has already gotten, not to bring up Bjorn in this episode. Continuing Yukimura's excellent taste for symbolism, the small joke in episode 4 blooms into a set-piece meant to show us depths of our humanity. By taking the mushroom, Bjorn doesn't become inhuman or anything, instead he lays bare what is already the core of our humanity. Senseless and directionless violence under the pretense of working toward some common goal that when attained should help us grow in some way. Beastly violence that embodies the unwritten history of our species. It is this beast that becomes the object of Canute's love and the gateway for this love to enter into the vikings. The ultimate showcase of loving everything and everyone, even the ugly and the wicked. One simple hug did more for Bjorn than four warriors ever could. This episode just does so much to flesh out and define so many themes of the story that no matter how many times I rewatch it, I'm left flabbergasted each time all the same. The care Yukimura put into this story, the planning that went into it to build up to all these moments, I just have no words for it.

Mickael Landry

It is truly refreshing to see someone like Sophie not roll her eyes at the mention of the word discrimination and seek to understand its use 🙌. Numerous YouTubers didn't even try to consider this word from a religious perspective... I found personally the priest's speech to be profoundly captivating. 💯 He articulates that death embodies love, as it is impartial and embraces everyone equally. According to him, the dead accept their fate without complaint, and death treats all with the same indifference—much like the sun that shines on everyone, the snow fall on everybody regardless of their circumstances. In Buddhism, we might refer to this concept as equanimity. The priest speaks of death in literal terms, yet it serves as a metaphor for the death of the ego. This notion also critiques selfish love, which seeks to possess and discriminates between individuals. He illustrates this when he compares worshipping a king while oppressing a slave, or when he notes that Ragnar prioritized the Prince above all else, over the lives of 50 innocent villagers and even his own life. On our side, we are all equally guilty: we love our family and friends 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 over the homeless person 👤 we walk by on the street. Such selfish love creates hierarchies and limitations. When in one of the previous episode, the two brothers express their inability to form this kind of relationship with anyone else, the priest tells them that their filial love falls short of what he seeks (the unconditional love)! 🫶 Canute's character development is remarkable! His confrontation with Bjorn, fueled by pure resolve and anger at God, was truly epic. The contrast between Canute and Thorfinn is intentional; it raises the question of what it means to be a true warrior and what love entails. Canute has discovered the answer, while Thorfinn remains in a state of uncertainty, still in the cradle of his journey. This show is undeniably special, a true masterpiece that encourages us to reflect. I'm happy Sophie that you're watching and appreciating it. 🤗

Erjon Sejdijaj

Something I often find with stories like Attack on Titan and Vinland Saga is that I think they're the type of story that can really only come from a japanese (or adjacent) culture. Someone from the west would just be too far removed from these kinds of themes to be able to make them work - not through inability or lack of talent, but purely because the common values of the west have little common ground with the themes these stories intend to portray. Yukimura himself isn't Buddhist - I believe he said his family is traditionally Shintoist, still very similar - but the ideas he wants to portray both in this work as in his previous Planetes are remarkably similar to Buddhist ones.

Sebas Tian

Canute's awaken. When will Thorfinn? Can't wait for future episodes

Mickael Landry

Good observation! You bring up a really strong point about how the cultural background affects stories like Attack on Titan and Vinland Saga. These stories often dive into themes like the struggle for existence, what it means to be human, and the repeating cycle of violence, which are deeply influenced by Japanese philosophy and spirituality, including indeed Shinto and Buddhist ideas. Japan's history, especially the samurai way of life and ideas about honor, plays a big role in how stories are told. Yukimura's works show a deep understanding of human nature and morality, highlighting the importance of perseverance, the quest for meaning, and how our actions affect future generations. Even though Western stories also deal with similar themes, they usually focus more on individualism and personal choice (The Great Gatsby, Fight Club, Into The Wild, etc.) which is different from the Japanese emphasis on community, duty, and how everything is connected. With globalization, storytelling styles have started to mix, and Western creators are increasingly inspired by Eastern philosophies. Still, the rich cultural context in Yukimura's works offers a unique perspective that can be hard to replicate outside of that cultural setting as you explained. 😉

Mickael Landry

After watching this unforgettable Episode 18, like you Erjon I’ve been thinking about how discrimination relates to love. 😅💭 How can we really call it "love" when it results in the slaughter of an entire village, including innocent kids, just to save one person?🤔 That kind of action doesn’t reflect true love; instead, it spreads hatred to many others in the name of protecting what one holds dear. It’s a selfish move fueled by personal feelings, putting the life of one person above the lives of many. Even though Ragnar’s feelings for Canute might be seen as love, we need to question: ▪️Do these feelings actually lead to love? ▪️Do they help create a more loving world? In reality, they seem to do the opposite. The idea that love could be a type of discrimination is a deep thought that highlights the genius of this show. For example, if you had to choose between saving five respectable strangers or your own mother, most people would naturally pick their mother because of that strong emotional connection. This makes me think that not all kinds of discrimination are automatically bad. While some—like those based on race, class, or species—are clearly wrong, the discrimination that comes from personal ties and loyalties can be more complicated.

Kirk Murray

Ehhhh you’re jumping the gun a bit on character motivations and what their awakenings truly mean. But 🤷‍♂️… let’s keep watching.

DrSophieDarlingReacts

That's the whole point of analysing and theorising? I'm not making a conclusive statement - it's my in the moment perspective based on what we've seen so far but will change and shift with further context. That's the whole point of a react :)