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Dillon leeming

This episode is always saw as you've seen thorfinns aftermath of a life of violence and now we see canute descending into one. He's becoming an autocrat real quick is our boy. It's still cool to see sometimes, cold as fuck him chopping down the earl with a brutal display of force. Also thorkell hates frogs. Thorkell maomao connection confirmed

Erjon Sejdijaj

Love me an episode where the first 15 minutes are just yapping :D And don't worry, by the end I thought you made your point loud and clear. The misunderstanding was just because you said "he's not to blame" regarding Thorfinn and I thought you meant that in a general sense. For what it's worth, I agreed with a good 95% of what you said anyway lol. The key takeaway from the prologue for me is that Thorfinn's entire character is a tragedy from beginning to end, destined to end in catastrophe no matter how much you keep hoping otherwise. Regarding the episode itself, I think it's interesting how Yukimura chose Thorkell of all people to be the one to give Canute a warning/reality check. A part of me feels someone like Floki would've been the easier choice, but no, he chose the guy who was more or less just a comic relief character (however violent) in season 1 for that role. He obviously has plenty of depth, which he also showed in this episode, but I just think it's noteworthy. I'm reminded of this quote by the author when asked about writing Thorkell: "There are two reasons I created Thorkell. The first is that I hate violence. In order to write a character who is violent, I have a tendency to write them off as a villain. Part of me thinks that's not fair. So, I tried to create a violent character who is lovable [laughs]. The second reason is that Thorkell has the heart of a child. I feel that every violent person is deep down a child. Whether they're a powerful ruler, or a tactical genius, they're still a child. A big, violent child." The fact that Yukimura chooses to keep a picture of Thorkell as his profile picture on twitter says enough I think lol. Also, just a small clarification on the episode insofar as it is necessary. This is all stated plainly in the manga but was removed ostensibly for pacing concerns, so I don't feel bad sharing it here. -Einar arrived on Ketil's farm in June of 1015 (if you do the math you could also calculate how long the timeskip was). -This episode with Canute happens somewhere in the summer of 1015. -King Ethelred II dies in april 1016. -His son, King Edmund, dies in November of the same year, 1016. -In the end, Canute is crowned as king in September 1018.

Mickael Landry

@20:34 I can't help but laugh when you make a genuine and funny face to express your surprise. :D Canute's choice to retain Gunnar on his team, despite his past scheming, could stem from various reasons. From a strategic standpoint, Gunnar has vital skills and insights that Canute can utilize while keeping a vigilant eye on him. In terms of testing loyalty, he might have faith in Gunnar's capacity for redemption, and by keeping him, Canute could be evaluating the loyalty of his team members under stress. Regarding political strategy, in a politically charged atmosphere, Gunnar's connections might offer strategic benefits, making a diverse team advantageous. Finally, out of respect for Ragnar, Canute may feel compelled to honor Ragnar's legacy by taking care of his brother.

icyfire

Very well put discussion in the intro!

Leah Henderson

This episode was the first time I considered how much Canute was influenced by Askeladd because I agree - his whole scheme seemed very like something Askeladd would have come up with. Which is interesting since the whole reason Thorkell followed him in the first place was because Canute reminded him of *Thors*.