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I HAVE NEVER BEEN THIS FURIOUS!!

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Chlo

Have not seen the reaction yet, but I knew this episode would make you absolutely furious. Such a brutal and disturbing episode.

charlie

I LOATHE KETIL. you get shown he sucks pretty early on but you don't get to see quite how weak he is until this episode nothing good to say about him.

James

I’m shocked that there will be people out there defending Ketil by saying he’s still a good person but is undergoing a lot of stress. These same people will bring up Askeladd as a counterpoint, but the difference is that the author portray Askeladd as a barbarian who actually had principles and sacrifice his life for Wales and Canute while Ketil was portray as a kind slave owner who was actually rotting inside.

Mickael Landry

Your predictions are usually spot-on (what a big brain you have 🧠), and you did mention in your introduction that Ketil might reveal a darker, more sinister side, something vastly different from what we've seen so far. I sometimes wish that you would be proven wrong in such moments. Arnheid's existence is like a tapestry woven with threads of unbearable sorrow. She has endured the heartbreak of losing both her son and her husband, twice over. Now, trapped in the brutal reality of her enslavement, she faces a cruel and unjust destiny. Pregnant with her master’s child, an outcome born of unwanted circumstances, she is stripped of the limited freedoms that others are granted. The recent beating she survived has left her fighting for her life, her body a stark testament to his cruelty. What makes her suffering even more tragic is her quiet resilience, her willingness to accept motherhood, even under these terrible conditions, holding onto the fragile hope of creating a new life for herself and her unborn child within the confines of her captivity. This tragic woman....I’ve watched this episode multiple times, and each time, it remains as painfully raw and devastating as the first. The reunion between Thorfinn and Leif who spent years searching for him, feels like we were "cheated" out of a truly joyful moment. 😔

Username123

Arnheid being tied up in the stables with the horses is very symbolic to her and ketils dynamic, he owns her. Ketil may have this facade in his head that arnheid loves him, but that’s not the case she is his slave so she has to do whatever he says, to ketil arnheid is no different that many of the horses he owns. And even if he did think in his mind he loved her and she loved him that’s not possible because she has no freedom to even make that choice. Which is why you can see the contrast in how einar truly loves arnheid becuase he always wanted her to be free regardless if he could be with her or not.

Mickael Landry

The only thing I liked about this episode was the deep conversation between Thorfinn and Einar. Thorfinn's commitment to pacifism is unwavering. He rejects the use of violence in any form, even for self-defense or to protect those he loves.  His belief in a purely peaceful approach means he refuses to raise his fists, even when faced with imminent danger or the threat of harm to others. He seeks a path that avoids any physical action that could inflict pain or suffering, holding firm to his conviction that violence only begets more violence. 👊🏼🚫🙅🏼‍♂️

Mickael Landry

Very well said James! 💯 Far too many people on YouTube unfortunately make this mistake about Ketil.🙄 The very notion of goodness is incompatible with the ownership of slaves or the perpetration of non-consensual sexual acts. While some might argue that Ketil's treatment of his slaves, offering certain freedoms and the possibility of buying their way out of bondage, makes him a 'relatively decent' slave owner, this is a fundamentally flawed perspective. A truly good person would not participate in a system that inherently denies another human being their autonomy and dignity, nor would they engage in any act that violates another's bodily integrity and free will. The existence of 'better' slave owners does not negate the inherent evil of slavery itself.

Mickael Landry

Dr Sophie: "Ketil would prefer to kill her instead of letting her go; he would rather see her in pain than set her free." You point out something really intriguing at the end that provides a flipped perspective on Einar's selfless love for Arneid. If Thorfinn and Canute appear to be two opposite sides of the same coin, the same could be said for Einar and Ketil in relation to Arneid.

Erjon Sejdijaj

This episode... Oh, this episode... To say it's heartbreaking would be doing it a disservice. And believe it or not, while the beating itself was basically exactly as it was in the manga, the words that one guard had with Arnheid was severely censored from the manga. In the original work, he basically said (massive TW obviously) "You'd be stripped naked to your skin and raped to within an inch of your life. We'd strangle you as we fucked you. When it looks like you might die, we'd toss water onto your face to wake you up again. Only to repeat the whole thing again. One time for each of our dead. To honor their memory. It would've happened already, if you weren't the master's little pet kitten." Absolutely fucked on so many levels. Regarding the episode itself, there's a lot that could be said. Instead, I'll give some quote by Yukimura, as he's obviously been asked about this chapter numerous times. Obviously rather long, but I find them quite interesting. Q: Women are often treated as mere receptacles for suffering in narratives about violence, but Arnheid’s emotional life is far more complex than that. How did you think about creating a compelling psychological portrait of slavery, and especially the experiences of enslaved women? A: If you have read the story and felt like the psychological portrayal of Arnheid is realistic in some way, then I feel like my goal was accomplished here. I really did have a difficult time going into the psyche of Arnheid, because I’m not a woman, and I have never gone to war, and I am not a slave. So I really used every inch of my imagination to try to imagine: what would the life of such a person be like? When there is a war, of course, everybody suffers, but at the same time, I think the people who suffer the most are often women and children. I really felt like I must write her. It was my mission to portray this character in order to make Thorfinn’s life later on in the story to be against the war, and long for release. She was an essential character for his motivation. Every time I introduce a female character in the story, I try to consider what they’re going through and how much they might feel, as much as possible. I can make, like, a really hot headed big guy quite easily, like myself, because they’re kind of like myself. According to many researchers, women in the North still had a certain level of rights. Some would argue that the condition for women was better in Northern Europe than in Europe itself, but I wouldn’t know that for sure. Q: On the other hand, you represent many different psychologies of enslavers in Olmar, Ketil, and Thorgil, and the harm that those psychologies cause. How did you think about depicting the world of Ketil’s farm and the system of slavery that he implemented? A: That scene where Ketil is being violent against Arnheid – It wasn’t a scene that I really, really wanted to draw. But it was absolutely necessary for the story, so I had to write it. It was just absolutely necessary that I portray, without looking away from the situation, without ignoring the situation, I have to portray the ignorance of men in general, including myself, in order to tell this story. Q: That is such an interesting moment, because the beating of Arnheid–until then Ketil seems like he could represent a “good slave owner.” But after that, that moment destroys any idea that we have that he was a “good slave owner.” A: I feel sorry for the guy, actually, I feel like he was kind of pushed to the limit, to the point where he was broken. However, his frustration has been directed towards somebody weaker than him, [the] weakest of all, who is considered the slave, and I felt very sorry for him. And finally, he also shared something on his twitter when this episode came out: "I will answer the question, 'why didn't you depict the emotional reunion of Leif and Thorfinn?' No, I wanted to draw that too. But just before that could happen, a ridiculous incident occured (Arnheid's beating), and the two would no longer be able to be happy to see each other. Inevitably, the order in which events would occur ends up being this way. Abuse before the reunion. I couldn't draw a scene of Thorfinn and Leif happily embracing beside Arnheid."

icyfire

We can't all be like Thorfinn.. Lynch Ketil!!

Vivasvan Gautam

Dr Sophie, I think you predicted it quite early on that ketil would be the one to punish Arnheid or even potentially take her life. I think you made this prediction as early as episode 11 maybe. In the moment when I first heard it, I was truly impressed by your foresight. But I was wondering whether prediction would somehow influence your reaction how it gets felt or how it lands when it would happen. Because expectations can prepare us for the event at times. But I almost forgot how barbaric, gruesome and horrifying this scene is. I don't think in my limited time on your channel I have seen you this angry and passionate about an event in a story. This has reassured me in a way, that although you are wonderfully capable at doing analysis of the story, making predictions quite early. You can also feel the gravity of events and emotions when it happens in real time. This only makes me excited about remaining episodes, although you may not be looking forward to them as eagerly as some of us in the audience are. Whether will we reach Vinland or not that only time will tell, but we have officially arrived at Painland. 😅

Jim Nasium

I love this half of season 2. The range of emotions it envokes from beginning to end shows masterery in storytelling.

Lane Kyser

Thorfinn, I know you wanna do this pascifism thing, but can you make an exception for Ketil?

Carlo Marasigan

I think a good cop bad cop duo of Eren and Thorfinn would solve every crime on earth.

Kirk Murray

I don’t think Ketils wife informed him about Arnheid out of spite. From my lens’s the affairs that Ketil was having seemed pretty standard for her. I think she informed him just because.

Damian Angelo

"As of 2022, the International Labour Organization (ILO) reports there is an estimate of 50 million people living under the circumstances of modern slavery, specifically 28 million in forced labour and 22 million in forced marriages." From UN news on September of 2022. This is not a thing of a long gone past, people are living this until this day. Such a disgusting reality we still find ourselves in unfortunately.

icyfire

Pretty sure there's an important Episode 18.5 on YouTube you should watch before the next episode. It's around 3 minutes long but they couldn't fit it onto the runtime of episode 19.

Leah Henderson

I watched this a few nights ago and I've been thinking ever since about what more I would add that you didn't say, and I think you just touched on every point perfectly. This one definitely made me physically ill as well. And unfortunately, the guy like Ketil who's fun and amiable with "the boys" and then cruel and possessive toward a woman is familiar as well - in real life, present day, and common enough to make me ill all over again.