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ArdieBea

The joyciest Joyce.

Minzoku Bokumetsu

Dumbing of Age Book 16: *the entire comic is the title*

C

So many choices for titles...and Billiefer is having none of this.

Jeremy AR

Joyce they can never make me hate you.

5099 5618 v2.0

Joyce, please. Sex *is* great but *please* cultivate *any* chill.

Astariel

Those first two panels are exactly how I felt the day after I first had sex. This has got to be in the top five most relatable Joyce moments. Also, you should probably get that looked at if she broke the skin, Joyce. Human bites can be filthy.

VengeanceKnight

If you’re putting it up to a vote, I cast mine for “Hello Fellow Sexified Peer! I’ve Joined Your Hallowed Ranks! Was It A Similiar Experience For You When You Put the Things Inside the Other Things?”

Logibear

Dumbing of Age Book 16: I'm Not Kink Shaming You! But We Are Going To Have To Amputate

Astariel

Never! She is far too adorable.

Smoochie

I wonder if this is how all bisexual-denying bi folks talk to each other?

Harold

"Now, *these* bite marks--" "JOYCE"

Maude Reads Things

Yeah, you should probably have put polysporin on that, Joyce

Jeremy AR

The mere concept is foreign to her!

CoreyWW

Hyperfixation with religion replaced with hyperfixation with sex with Dorothy, everyone around her has same base level of annoyance as they did with the first thing.

Astariel

I think my favorite is "Jennifer's talking to me, and I've had sex!" But "Does this look infected?" is a close contender.

Harold

@CoreyWW: With the possible exception of Dorothy

Ill-Tempered Clavier

There is no contest. Clearly "I Liked You Better as a Virgin" is objectively the best Book 16 title

Lazuli

"joyce theres a thing called oversharing"

Kazo

I second that motion.

Amós Batista

Please, no "I liked you better when as a virgin."

Jeremy AR

Including a portion of the readership (not me i love this)

Tessea

GAH! But Becky and Dorothy!! Why?? Emotional whiplash!! *throws things at Willis*

DonnieRamesJio

She gets to sing along with The Lonely Island and Akon now.

5099 5618 v2.0

"Could this be over sharing?" "DOESN'T MATTER, HAD SEX"

Girlycore

Oh... the main site is Not going to like this.

5099 5618 v2.0

~...AND ILL NEVER GO BACK / TO MY NOT-HAVING-SEX WAYS OF THE PAST...~

Gwen Sanger

Real Spongebob 'at night' energy going on here.

Chloe

I'm wondering if this is Joyce's flavor of post-coital, ex-fundie breakdown where she might be oversharing about her recent sexscapades to compensate for potential shame-noise eating itself in her head, but, and I never thought I'd say this, I'm with Jennifer on this one. Like I personally can't stand when people talk at me with overly intimate details of their sex lives at length without prompting. Becky and Dina definitely shared that they'd done it, but neither of them were getting too detailed about their experience with their friends afterwards and the build-up scene where they were testing for 'pants euphoria' was really intimate and playful before leading into one of my favorite Slipshines. I know the point is that Joyce was mad sheltered and brainwashed, so she's coping in a similar way to when she first expressed her atheism to Dorothy when she said she was "smarter now, now that [she] didn't believe in God," while swinging to the extreme of acting like a jerk. The main difference here is how sex with Dorothy has now become Joyce's fixation, dismissing how she'd promised to talk to Joe about what happened, dismissing how the Bulmeria protest was overshadowed, outright choosing to be a pretty shitty friend to Walky, and then info-dumping about her sex life to whichever friends she hasn't alienated. I'm realizing I think I agree with Jennifer not because of the sex even, but because Joyce feels... Mean lately. Going through the archives to check my sources, I forgot she was intimate with Joe after he got her a weighted blanket right after she'd been making out with Dorothy. Then she promises they'll talk later, and she never does. Which I know she'd had a stressful day what with Becky finding out, and Hank showing up, and trying to cover for Jocelyn, but I feel like you can't just forget that you promised to talk to your ex-boyfriend about the state of affairs (no pun intended but I'm leaving it in because hehe) to tell everyone how you're having sex WITHOUT it coming off as really shitty. Oh boy, there I go rambling again. I do hope that Jen might tell Joyce she's being kind of a jerk in a way that Joyce actually listens to, since obviously she wasn't going to listen to Raidah. Right now I'm worried about Becky, since the last few arcs have touched on her being reminded of her mom through moments of her own suicidal ideation, and she's so unmoored from everything right now that like... I dunno, someone call Leslie. :(

Logibear

God... like sure. I understand the whole "I was repressed for so long, and the flood gates are open and I'm feeling all the things right now and I want to shout it from the rooftops for anyone to listen to" But fuck. If I was in this friend group I would literally sprint away from Joyce being like this. That might just be me being on the Ace spectrum but like, c'mon. You may be liberated but tact still exists. Look at how Becky and Dina announced their canoodling for pointers on how to be proud yet understated.

Rubia

I doubt I could hate her either. There are times, though, when I don't like her very much. I've been having that feeling a lot since her taunting of Walky.

Sajuuk-Khar

Joyce! PLEASE! Jennifer is a freshman JOURNALISM major! They don’t know anything about wounds, or anything else! You want someone who’s either pre-med or biology!

Zesstra

The "I liked you better as a virgin" reminds me of the fact that every time Joyce moves away from her old traits, her friends (who complained about the old traits) are annoyed by the change as well, eg https://www.dumbingofage.com/profane/

Sajuuk-Khar

Yeah like, those two actively chased their friends down with the information. They were actually more obnoxious than Joyce is being! We just had a filter of positivity over it, because we were almost universally rooting for them at the time. (Joyce doesn’t get this benefit because she is a Sinner who Cheated, of course.)

Shane Wegner

It’s the crab pot all over again.

Shane Wegner

This school surely offers some basic medical clinic services.

Sajuuk-Khar

Most especially, Billifer is the bellwether example of this behavior, almost constantly, which is of course unsurprising as Billifer is a shining paragon* of good social behavior** who has never done anything wrong*** in her entire life [citation needed].

Shane Wegner

Agreed. Involving someone in your sexuality for purpose of discussion is still a consent-requiring action.

Sajuuk-Khar

As Zesstra linked above, Becky and Dina were literally chasing people down to yell at them that they fucked the shit out of each other. It’s not different behavior, it’s not better, it is in fact Actively Worse!! Joyce has just been stripped of the benefit of rose-colored-glasses-ass sympathy and framing device so that we can fill in the blanks with reader bias! :D

EnterTheHero

Ah, yes, the famous autistic oversharing. I know it well.

Sajuuk-Khar

I’m going to say it here and louder so it’s amplified: Joyce is doing nothing Becky and Dina did not also do. Joyce is not being ANY MORE DISGUSTING than Becky and Dina also were! Before you post a paragraph, consider: you are literally riding a wave of your own bias! Joyce is just acting without sympathetic framing! It’s you, not her!

Shane Wegner

I’m attributing this imagined “total recontextualization” (reconSEXtualization ayo!) to autism spectrum.

Chloe

I don't think that's necessarily why everyone might feel Joyce is being a little tactless? I agree with Logibear in that even if Becky and Dina *were* more obnoxious, which is subjective, they weren't explicit. Joyce's entire last statement is about being bitten by her girlfriend to muffle her "impassioned screams" so they wouldn't wake up Sarah. Which we know Sarah did hear them, so it just has a different tone to it than Beckasaur's "Guess what, we fucked!" And leaving it there. It was regarded within the cast as obnoxious, but in a cute or endearing way (by Dorothy, Amber, and Sal, as examples) and it did have a different vibe to me.

Shane Wegner

And for what it’s worth, hands and some mouths were used by and on you to make various genitals quiver in excitement with Joe before Dorothy. And yes I used deliberately cursed yet accurate phrasing to describe those deeds.

Zesstra

I think she's perhaps being a bit more detailed with Billifer because to some degree, Joyce has seen her as a sort of sexual role model. She's had premarital hanky-panky! _With girls!_ And because she's something of a role model, she wants to impress her with her growth, but in a very Joyce way.

darklion

For once, Billie is a mood.

Sky Starlight

All I hear while reading this is Lonely Island's “I Just Had Sex”

Sajuuk-Khar

“Fucked the shit out of each other” loudly and in public, uninvited, is just as obnoxious as “Yeah she bit me in the midst of impassioned screaming” in a personal uninvited conversation. The tone is nearly identical. You are giving Becky and Dina rose-colored glasses because they’re “precious beans” and Joyce is “mean” and “a cheater”.

Mitzi B.

"I had lesbian sex with Joe!" is one of the funnier punchlines from that period.

Empress of Robots

I feel like the only way for Jennifer to shut Joyce up at this point is ask something that would fluster her. Like asking if Dorothy is now one of her favorite foods...

Harold

This sounds like a job for... KITCHEN DOCTOR

Harold

The NOICE-est Joyce. (And also, per Sarah, the noisiest Joyce.)

Annie

It feels no one batted an eye at Becky and Dina's exclamations of fucking because Becky has already established herself as being loud and proud. Becky did happily announce to everyone she was a lesbian without being asked. So the behavior wasn't strange to rest of the social group, maybe just cringe. Becky and Dina were one and done telling people. The readers never saw Becky and Dina acting as if they joined "hallow ranks" of society. They likely talked about sex to each other, but the only time Becky got explicit was to correct Joyce that being fingered is indeed sex. (correct me, if I'm wrong. thanks) Joyce on the other hand, this behavior was vastly different from the norm the social circle is acquainted with of her. Joyce is fixated that she had sex and keeps telling her friends. Acting like she joined some club or leveled up. This is in no way wrong or bad of her, but she's being very repetitive in talking about it and that is likely gonna annoy some folks. Walky likely wouldn't have called her a sore winner if she only laughed in his face once about getting Dorothy. Implying she did it several more times (and weather Walky deserved it is an entirely different convo). It's likely the repetitive nature of Joyce's declaration of having sex. Becky and Dina seemed like they were 'one and done'.

Rob McBobson

It could be that I'm misremembering things with Joe, but... surely what she did with Joe counts as "sex" too, right?

tifani

It absolutely does and I didn’t pay for either slipshine but I’m guessing they did most of the same stuff.

tifani

To be fair she is being extremely annoying

tifani

Joyce had as much sex with Joe as she had with Dorothy (fingering and oral) but she didn’t realize what she had with him counted as sex until she talked to Becky about it. Now that she’s had actual gay sex she seems to be rewriting history because for whatever reason saying she lost her virginity to Dorothy matters to her. (Because her entire sense of self worth has to be about Dorothy now apparently) But if you were to ask her to her face if she had sex with Joe she’s not going to say she didn’t.. If you pushed her on the timeline she’d probably go catatonic about it. I don’t think any of this really matters though. It’s only worth discussing and debating because Joyce refuses to SHUT UP about it.

tifani

Seriously when the fuck is Joe coming back? I don’t even care about the will they go poly or not anymore. At this point Joe deserves better. (That being said I’m not going to be disappointed if they go poly because that would actually be interesting) I just want to see how Joyce deals with talking about this with someone she won’t be able to pull this obnoxious shit with.

Andrea Andrew

Unfortunately, the redditors and the people on discord hate Joyce so much, they’ll make any excuse to loath her.

Andrea Andrew

Nor is the pathetic Discord and Reddit page.

Zesstra

Joyce has been utterly devoted to Dorothy for irl-years/in-universe-months, and she has years of purity culture telling her her virginity is very important, so it makes sense (to me at least) that she wants to count having "lost it" to Dorothy.

Zesstra

It's been like a day. In his position, I'd like to hear back from Joyce sooner too, but she talked to him Sunday morning and it's currently Monday morning, give or take. Worst comes to worst, I recall someone saying they should have biology tomorrow so Joyce will have to seem him then unless one of them skips (and Dina and Becky should also be there so that's going to be very interesting).

Astariel

Feels like a double standard to me.

Jeremy AR

Joe snd Joyce didn't have a slipshime. They did have a few drawings in willis nsfw Patreon

Jeremy AR

Yeah i fell that some people miss that detail and think she is doing this because she is being rude and callous and not because she literally doesn't know when she should stop talking

tifani

I’ve said this before but considering the nature of the conversation I think making Joe wait over a day is completely out of line. We also saw enough of what she DID decide to make time for it’s pretty obvious she has been deliberately putting off the promised talk.

tifani

I can understand why she’s doing this and still find it obnoxious.

Logibear

Yeah. I'll concede that using the Becky Dina example was a poor choice borne from me not reading those strips for quite a while. Not gonna concede that any of these behaviors don't ick me out though.

tifani

Well I STILL would like Joyce and Joe’s first slipshine to be a threesome with Dorothy as of right now we’ll see how much longer that remains true.

MrShoggoth

Jeremy AR I found out this weekend that a mutual dislikes me because I don’t know when to stop talking about my interests, despite the irony of that we half-share a condition and they talk with authority on all sorts of topics they don’t actually understand beyond a surface level. I agree with you, and it’s frustrating that people aren’t realising that it’s something Joyce just does.

tifani

I don’t hate her for the record and it would take waaay more shit for me to be close to feeling that. She is irritating the shit out of me though. There are way more interesting conversations she should be having and you would think she would have realized that NO ONE has ever talked about their sex life this much to her for A REASON. She is being completely inconsiderate of other people’s boundaries.