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2023-11-04 19:43:39
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A lot of you suggested I should watch Ken Burns The Civil War in the comments to Glory, so here we are!

There will be no reaction! This one I’m watching horizontal with a HUGE bowl of crimble crumble and educating myself 🤓

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kajota

Ken Burns The Civil War is really good. I haven't watched it in years but I might have to again just to imagine what your reaction might be.

Retro Maven

So proud of you DM! 🧡

George Roybal

I own the DVD. I watch it every time it's on. It's on Netflix here. It's truly amazing especially the vintage photographs.

Jason Hardman

You'll really enjoy it. Sorry, let me write that like the Civil War letters that you'll see in the documentary... My dearest Dawn Marie, I am writing to you to let you know that I am certain that you'll enjoy the documentary on the War Between The States. I must go now, but know that the fighting and the bloodshed will end someday. With warm regards, Beauregard (or something)

Ceryk

Ken Burns documentaries are usually some heavy shit. I'd lay down too. This war still divides the country to be perfectly honest.

kajota
>>121441870

I grew up with people in the south who called it The War of Northern Aggression.

Ceryk
>>121441870

Yep. Lived in the South for a decade and heard that one. They view the war very differently than the rest of the country.

Bill W

You will enjoy it. Ken is an excellent film maker who has developed a signature formula for his documentaries. He has a large catalog of films on American history and people. He treats his subject matter and his audience with the utmost respect. While factually comprehensive, Ken's films always convey the emotional element as well through his inclusion of personal quotes and commentary of eye witnesses, etc. as well as his choice of narrators, voiceover cast, sound clips and musical score.

RFK Fan

I cant think of a GREATER video vehicle to educate yourself on THE CIVIL WAR than Ken Burns.. Still his best work in my opinion...

JL Green

Now you're going to get a reality check not only to American history but why racism persist in America today. Enjoy my friend .

Richard

It's excellent, watched it a couple of times. His doc on the Vietnam War was enlightening, It covered aspects of the war that I wasn't aware of.

Louis Marzullo

No reaction is fine but can we get a pic of you wearing your spectacles & munching your fiddle faddle? 😄

Eric Bonham

I can't help wishing this were a watch-along, though.

Michael Hartsell

We as loyal patrons demand at least a recap of each episode with your thoughts.

Bill W

Hey Dawn, another one that may enhance your appreciation of Westerns is The West (produced by Ken Burns, but a different director). The National Parks is also excellent. (John Muir, the "Father of National Parks" was born and raised in Dunbar, Scotland.)

JD Onesi

what is crimble crumble? lol

Bartleby

As skilled a filmmaker as Ken Burns may be, he has proven himself to not be objective or reliable on history. This will be an unpopular opinion I’m sure, but Ken Burns is not the be all and end all authority on anything. He knows how to put together the story that he wants to tell. He’s certainly very effective at conveying supreme authority on what he presents. But he’s just one man, putting forth one point of view. Just something to keep in mind.

Scott

Proud of you Miss Dawn!🥰

Louis Marzullo
>>121453742

Obviously you're not a fan of the man's work but this reads like a complete dismissal of his credibility as a documentarian. Is that what you meant to convey?

Eric Janssen
>>121453742

He starts to soapbox on later documentaries ("Prohibition" is unabashedly "We're losing the drug war" Libertarian), but early Burns is still an addictive gateway-drug for hooking history-sucks Millennials.

Eric Janssen

Ken Burns iiterally REINVENTED the history-doc series--You can complain about some idealistic bias, but he doesn't show re-enactments, just old photos as "ghosts" of the past, and focuses on the minor stories of those caught up, and the minor details that led to the big events. He understands how we never see history while we're living through it, for those who've ever had to explain 9/11 or the Meltdown.

Bartleby
>>121453742

Kind of? I’m trying to be diplomatic. I think Ken Burns is a despicable human being. And I think there are times when he’s more propagandist than documentarian. Such as a recent doc he did where he did nothing but denigrate and shame the role and history of the United States in WW2 Europe. And I think there can be great hyperbole in the authority on history that people bestow on Ken Burns. Ken Burns is not a historian. He’s a filmmaker. He puts together compelling documentaries and he’s very skilled at doing that. But people confuse the disciplines of putting together a well told visual story with actually being an authority on history. I think it’s worthwhile for someone to point out that he’s not the be all and all authority. He’s one man, telling the story he wants to tell.

Bartleby

You want to learn more about the civil war? Watch the movies “Gone With the Wind” (1939) “The Outlaw Josey Wales” (1976) starring Clint Eastwood. “Cold Mountain” (2003) Honestly you’d be get more learning about the civil war by simply watching more movies. That’s what this channel is about right.

JM63
>>121453742

I've only seen The Civil War, Baseball, and a 2-part Jefferson bio and didn't see anything objectionable in any of them. Can't comment on other Burns stuff

JM63

I think you made the right decision not to react to this (it feels inappropriate), but I'm very glad you're watching this series. Feel free to ask any questions, it's a lot of info. I think the most important background info to know is this: in Britain, open land was scarce but people were plentiful, so it was easy to hire cheap labor. But in America it was the opposite -- land was unbelievably available (to steal from the natives, ofc), but people were scarce, so getting labor to work the land was a constant problem (ppl were always going west to get their own land). So, as morally repugnant as it is to us, from a purely economic standpoint slavery was profitable for the major cash crops that grew well in the south (tobacco, rice, and cotton). But ppl don't like to think of themselves as evil, so a psuedo-scientific theory about the racial superiority of whites over blacks sprang up to "justify" the status quo. (Unfortunately, this attitude still poisons race relations in the US today.) You'll have a much greater understanding of American history after finishing this. Would be nice to get a post-series reaction video of your overall thoughts.

Bartleby
>>121489364

Sure, or 12 Years a Slave. That movie was big for a minute then seems to have been forgotten about

Bartleby
>>121489364

I think more reaction channels look at Django Unchained as a historical source on slavery and the civil war before ever thinking to look at something like 12 Years a Slave. That’s the movie reaction circuit for ya 🤷‍♂️

Louis Marzullo
>>121489364

I had '12 Years' on a list of about 20 films focused on people of color and/or other cultures about 2 months ago, when Dawn asked for poll suggestions. Drove a certain other patron nuts 😆

Bartleby
>>121489364

It’s certainly worth being seen. The film won a couple Oscars right. What are your thoughts on the hood movies of the 90s? Boyz n the Hood and Menace II Society Would you recommend Dawn explore that genre? Or is that too much of a culture shock for her. Maybe ease in with something lighter like Friday.

Louis Marzullo
>>121489364

I'd flip the order. "Boyz" first, then "Friday" to heal. "Menace" did not stay with me the way "Boyz" did, think she can skip. Culture shock I wouldn't worry about at all with Dawn. She's game & eager to explore. My favorite part of her 'Train to Busan' reaction was when she said the subtitles didn't bother her at all. I was like, "Hot damn, let's go!!" Hoping for at least one foreign film a month in the new year

Bartleby
>>121489364

I disagree with you there. I think Menace II Society is solid. City of God would be a great foreign film for Dawn to watch. There’d be some culture shock for her! By the way, I just came across this. So I haven’t even watched it yet. The first episode has just been made available for free on YouTube. Paramount + streaming series. Bass Reeves The true story of the first black US Marshall. The first episode looks like it starts off with the end of the civil war. Why Hollywood has neglected to tell this story for so many decades is beyond me. https://youtu.be/txX0Ae5fiNE?si=wQcnvexdZ4gKlblf

Louis Marzullo
>>121489364

Funny, just saw that Bass Reeves ad for first time today. And was also thinking 'City of God' as an early foreign film entry! Didn't mean to imply 'Menace' wasn't good, just that the films are so similar in subject matter that seeing one of them is enough & that one for me would be 'Boyz'. But that's what polls are for!

Jimmy Walker

I think may Americans who have seen Ken Burn's "Civil War" will agree with me. No matter how many time you watch it you learn new facts that was not taught in school. There is so much information given it is tough to take it all in with a single viewing. Even for someone who was taught about the Civil War there whole life. Like others have said if you have comments or question we will be happy to hear about them and answer your questions the best we can.

Panama Bill

I loved this series so much that I bought the originals on VHS way back when. It inspired me to take a course in University on the Civil War. The music in the series is amazing too. well done Dawn

Zack Gallardo

Hate to say it but you would probably really like "Gone with the Wind". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGGEF42hKb4 One of the all time most popular movies that takes place in that era. Seems it is slightly controversial nowadays. I don't think that anyone can deny it being a piece of cinema history.

Eric Janssen
>>121494359

Harriet Beecher Stowe's anti-slavery book "Uncle Tom's Cabin" takes a lot of unfair guff from people who haven't read it, but Stowe makes a righteously Dickens-like evisceration of the hypocrisy of the average South at the time trying to rationalize slavery as not so bad, with severe misquotings of the Bible, and "But England has servants!" whatabout-isms. It's eerie AND funny how much of their attempts sound like delusional 1/6 apologists of today.

Louis Marzullo
>>121494359

Those rationalizations, defenses & outright defiance continue to this day. I remember driving to Florida in my younger years & the shock of seeing bumper stickers with garbage like "Lee surrendered, I didn't" & "The South will rise again!" printed on them, replete with the Confederate flag, of course. Usually started in Virginia & lasted all the way into northern FL. And I'd be very happy to never hear or read the terms "War of Northern Aggression" or "Lost Cause" again after just having written them 😒

Mannygogou
>>121450906

I am picturing some kind of cereal... But maybe an old word like porridge... except less wet... and modern and sweet, hmm... lol I think it's like cobbler... maybe.

Louis Marzullo
>>121453742

Much of the controversy re: Civil War doc centers around the amount of screen time given to Shelby Foote & his views

Zack Gallardo
>>121523116

While I don't care for the film myself. (mom and sister ruined it for me as a child) I respect it's place and impact on the film industry. The video I posted really does the film justice I feel.

Zack Gallardo
>>121523116

Oh gosh Louis. They named the family dog Scarlette and the other one Rhette... 😑 But honestly through my childhood probably 40+ times...

Louis Marzullo
>>121523116

🤣😂🤣 God bless them. My sister was like that with certain songs. Men always get the rap for that kind of obsessiveness, as in "You're watching that AGAIN?!?" Thanks, Zack 🖖

Celeste McAllister

After you have watched 'The Civil War' there's 'Baseball' 'Jazz' 'The Dust Bowl' 'Prohibition' and a lot more...

B Matt

Growing up, my grandmother's house in upstate New York (near Canada) had secret rooms to hide runaway slaves, behind kitchen cabinets, little corridors between walls, etc... Was eerie to sit in those rooms, smell the wood, and think about the folks who had passed through 100 years before in desperation, so that my grandmother might one day own a house.

1000thghost

The civil war is one of my favorite documentaries of all time and solidified my love of History. Later in college I got a degree in history and wish I could use it more. If you would like to learn more about black history during February, I can recommend the documentary eyes on the prize. It is a great documentary about the civil Rights movement.