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This week we welcome back on Super Eyepatch Wolf (be sure to check out John's YouTube channel and Patreon), all to discuss Lisa's difficult relationship with Homer! After losing her room to a cell phone tower, Lisa is feeling ignored by Homer all as Homer ignores any problems to eat mayonnaise. Somehow that leads to an out of body experience and Homer being buried alive, all as we get to an ending that doesn't make a huge amount of sense. Whether or not you listen along in a sensory deprivation tank, please enjoy this week's podcast!

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Aaron Alcott

I don't know if you've seen the Simpsons Shitposting page in a while, but it's basically 8chan now. A transphobic, homophobic wasteland of morons. It's sad.

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

Since this episode invoked a discussion about sharing a bedroom with a sibling, I figured I'd chime in about my experiences. I'm the youngest of four kids, with my 2 brothers and 1 sister having a larger age gap above me than most. I shared a room with my closest-in-age brother (8 years older) until I was about 10, and as the younger sibling, I never really had much issue with it. Adjusting to having my own room afterward was more bizarre, since I was so used to having someone else sleeping in the room with me that the silence and extra space were sorta uncomfortable for the first few months. But as I went through my teenage years, I started to see how this must have been kinda frustrating for my brother. Namely, as an avid masturbater myself, I've wondered how he got through ages like 12-18 having to share his room with an oblivious younger brother. I've never been curious enough to ask, though. -- The Krusty joke, and Marge's shorthand of "Krusty=gay?" really rubs me the wrong way, even before I knew it was a joke about a real incident and that the woman in question was dead by the time it aired (fucking christ). I know this is the tip of the iceberg about the kind of trash-talking that was socially acceptable in the 90s, but that doesn't make me hate it any less. At least the show was better than contemporaries, given that I think this is the first shot at trans people in the series? Maybe?

Joe Hodgson

This episode feels like a clumsy way to examine how Lisa has come to terms with the fact that she is much smarter than her father. I don't want to let the writers off the hook for the resolution, with Lisa seemingly being portrayed as in the wrong, but it's possible they were trying to do some role reversal with her essentially being more like the parent than her actual father. Which is also pretty sad if you think about it as it's almost as if she doesn't have a true father figure if she views him as sort of beneath her. Lisa volunteering to go to the destruction derby at the end reads a lot like a parent taking their kid to a bad movie or "Kid's I.P. on Ice." Obviously, they were playing with subverting roles, but I'm just not convinced the reading was supposed to be taken as a general "All kids need to appreciate what their parents do for them," and was instead supposed to be specific to Homer and Lisa. I also feel like this episode, and others this season, are partly responsible for Peter Griffen. Homer is such a jerk to Lisa at the beginning that it makes me think when Peter is made to have a similar relationship with Meg it needs to go further. Where Homer is insensitive and doesn't understand his daughter, Peter has to actually detest and loathe his which is a trait that has apparently spread to all members of the Griffen family, if not the entire cast of that show. Homer's meanness here is a bit funny, in an uncomfortable way, where as Family Guy's has become just tasteless and mean and is probably the main reason why that show just does nothing for me these days.

Brian Hortin

The Simpsons would be exposed to an increased level of RF energy from living under a cell tower. This isn’t an unrealistic level though most likely. Rooftop sites where antennas are mounted toward the edges of a building and sitting directly on the roof of tall apartment buildings or offices are pretty common. There is a whole system for categorizing what level of exposure a person would experience at a given location and how long a person can safely be at that level of exposure in the US. I can’t really speak to the cancer risk (not a doctor). There are studies linking RF exposure to cancer risk. Ultimately in the industry the people who get gouged on insurance are the tower climbers, and it is due to the risk of falling not the risk of cancer if that says anything. My own personal experience with RF exposure is that I’ve been to two sites where exposure beyond what was designed caused me to feel queasy. No permanent effects that I know of. One small thing on the design of the Simpsons cell tower is that it doesn’t actually have any cell antennas on it. The dish antennas would likely be microwave antennas used for point to point connections between sites. The rod at the top could technically be an omnidirectional antenna, but is not likely given the light at top and design. The call interception part could be possible with an older analog system which I would be willing to accept with Omnitouch given the old switchboard in the equipment room. You could intercept analog cordless phone calls with walkie talkies. The “progress tree” description of the tower always makes me laugh. There are cell towers that are stealthed to look like trees. Sometimes to laughable results. The best one that I’ve seen in person is at Disney’s Animal Kingdom viewable from the parking lot if you look to the left of the park I believe.

ShyRanger

This is responding to your stories about asking for gifts for family and getting something else. I would always ask for video games and my aunt would always deliberately get me something else because she felt I had enough games. So the one year we’re actually made sure to ask for something else, plushies, instead I got an Amazon gift card. That was OK but I found out the reason why after. My mom told me that when she relayed my wish list to my aunt she did not mention the plushies and instead said “ he wants stuff from Amazon” Because she knew my aunt would be confused and question why a boy wants plushies of Hello Kitty and Daisy Duck. Are used the money and bought them but I will always remember that story

oldmetalpossum

Jokes about "new age" treatment are kind of hacky nowadays but that new age stuff has an interesting history. Essentially, the Chinese government was trying to expand healthcare into rural areas in the 60s-70s and trained a bunch of doctors who were known as "barefoot doctors". The Chinese government then equipped them with a manual that described how to handle various medical issues. The bulk of it was based on modern medical tech and pharmaceuticals, but portions of it described folk remedies if such modern tech wasn't available and said as much. Long story short, 60s hippies looking for a new grift cut the modern medical stuff from the manual and began marketing it as "ancient chinese wisdom" and the market took off. Personally, I think that if you're trying to relax and that new age stuff makes you relax then good for you. But when people try to claim it can cure cancer and whatnot they're kinda stepping over a line into outright lying to the sick.

Jamie Lochner

I never knew about the sordid part of Danny Thomas’s life. I was only aware of the benevolent part as he started St Jude’s Hospital.

To Boldly Joe... Moore

Great show, guys. It's kind of shocking that this episode managed to miss the mark so much in terms of Lisa blaming herself for no good reason. Had the episode opened with the ballet scene from Lisa's perspective, we could contrast that with her vision later where she realises that Homer was making a genuine attempt to spend time with her but found himself challenged by his own shortcomings. We'd also find out that his other failures during the episode had good intentions but were misguided. The point the ending is trying to make desperately needs more evidence to justify itself. Anyway, I enjoyed the show. Keep up the awesome work. P.S. Most people in the UK watched The Simpsons when it came to mainstream terrestrial channel BBC 2 where it was on five nights a week at 6pm right after The Weakest Link with ZERO commercials and was generally less censored than Sky TV's version. What a time to be alive.

Cody C.

I mean, herbal teas can soothe upset stomachs and it’s hard to actually overdo it. That is the extent of which I’d ever let hippie methods go but ginger’s good!

Andrew Grieve

I remember this being the episode where the “jerkass homer” trope finally clicked for me viewing it in first-run. I was occasionally reading SNPP and alt.tv.simpsons and never quite understood the trope until this episode, I just assumed like Prof. Laurence Pierce, that Homer “gets stupider every year”. Though in this podcast, I can unpack Homer’s brutal attitude towards Lisa and her interests and how that ties into the “moral” of this episode as a sequel of sorts to Lost our Lisa, but flipping the perspective and end result. It’s his attitude that causes Lisa to realize in the deprivation tank that perhaps she was being too hard on him and tries to fake her interest to his interests - even though it’s a hell of a mixed message to give in the end, something that would have erred more towards compromise may not have been as cringeworthy to me. It does bring up that I remember dragging my parents to game stores, Pokemon TCG events and other things that I knew they wanted nothing to do with, yet at the time I was just glad they went or allowed me to go, now I just appreciate that they accepted me as who I was from the start, even if it didn’t interest them at all. I try to return the favor with them now, based on their interests whenever I find the time just to give a little back for all of those comic trade shows, and Funcoland runs. And a couple of asides - the commercial break debate just reminds me of how weird it was watching Ren & Stimpy on MTV back in the 90s, when MTV would awkwardly insert a fade in the middle or tail end of an episode for a third commercial break. And speaking as a longtime community radio DJ, the DJ-3000 hasn’t replaced all radio DJs in corporate radio - but it may has well have. Anyone I’ve known who stayed in that field plays a living cartoon character for a few hours a day, on a part time schedule, with no room to move up or get a raise unless you’re willing to relocate - and if your format flips or management changes overnight, congrats, you’re out of a job. It really sucks and that’s why I never pursued it outside of a hobby. The way to go, is to listen, support and volunteer at your local community radio or college radio stations - those are the last bastion for truly alternative radio on the AM/FM dial, where you’ll hear something you won’t anywhere else and talent can be themselves. I make no bones of how bad I am as a DJ, but I’d like to think that there’s one person listening who will hear great music on my show that wouldn’t hear it otherwise and that’s part of the reason I keep doing it. Well that, and because of those clowns in Congress. What a bunch of clowns.

John Harrison

Henry and Bob, I love ya but you can't keep blaming your schooling on your lack of knowledge of the world. It's been close to two decades since you've graduated high school (if I'm counting right) if you really wanted to learn where Ireland is, you would have done it by yourself by now.

Jack Christmas

Oh man, I know people tend to use "Kidney Trouble" as their go-to for talking about "Jerkass Homer", but at least in that episode he was only a complete jerk for the first act and was otherwise acting out of fear and self-preservation. This episode right here is the real deal. Pure, uncut Jerkass from beginning to end. Plus, Abe is far less sympathetic than Lisa, and "Kidney Trouble" makes it clear that Homer is at fault, while this episode goes the whole "both sides" route. It's irredeemably bad. Even as a child I felt nothing but rage towards Homer while watching it. I keep imagining what it would have been like if we got THIS Homer in "Lisa's Pony". Presumably he wouldn't have just failed to get Lisa a saxophone reed, but would have either sold or destroyed the saxophone for selfish reasons, been completely oblivious that he did anything wrong or that Lisa was upset with him, and then in the end Lisa would apologise to Homer for making him feel an iota of guilt, because after all, he did buy her the saxophone in the first place, right? Actually, now that I've brought it up, I can't even imagine this Homer being in "Lisa's Sax" just one season prior. "Make Room For Lisa" Homer would 100% have bought the air conditioner.

Talbert J.

I feel a little dirty since what I hazily remembered as one of this season's emotional highlights was actually kind of victim-blamey? I might be fine with that conclusion if the episode was about Lisa constantly dragging a well-meaning Homer to book fairs and museums, but it's mind-boggling how Lisa's revelatory line "In fact, Dad takes me to a lot of places he hates" directly contradicts Act 1. (I jinxed Bob in immediately saying "NO HE DOESN'T") At least we got another instance of Marge's strange hostility toward Milhouse. I wonder if she kept any of his teeth.