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Radio War Nerd #273 — Tang Dynasty's Wars on Korea, Pt. 1: Goguryeo Wars (Patreon)

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2021-03-28 16:59:58
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2026-06
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Guest: Richard Kim, historian

Recorded: March 21, 2021

We're joined by RWN guest Richard Kim to tell us about the Tang Dynasty's wars in the 7th-c. on Korea's three kingdoms: Goguryeo, Baekje, and Silla. In this episode, Richard picks up where he left off in RWN episode #87 with the Sui Dynasty's disastrous invasions, and takes us through the first Tang war against the powerful northern Goguryeo kingdom...

At 1:20:00 - the War Nerd and Ames discuss current events in the world of wars...

*Maps & Illustrations

*Sui & Tang wars on Goguryeo 

*Tang expeditionary army structure

*Infantry armor

*Cavalry armor

Check out our previous episodes with Richard Kim: China's Invasions of Korea, early 7th C [EP #87], and The Imjin Wars, or Japan's Invasions of Korea 1592-1598 [EP #116].

Interlude music by Brendon Anderegg. Check out his group Mountains here.

Buy John Dolan's book "The War Nerd Iliad" and his audiobook "Pleasant Hell".

Total time: 1:53:24

Direct link to this episode's mp3 here 

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Jimothy Realname

Good timing, I have to change my tires today

Inglorious Bustard

Richard Kim has got to be on the short list of best ever RWN guests. Great to see him back!

Haemu

Was just wondering if there'd be another Korean history / Richard Kim episode. Glad to see it.

HeyB00B00

Could we please get an american civil war episode🙏🙏🙏

Gengeros

East Asian history is some good shit to listen to

Gengeros

Specially about front and periods of the war not covered

Adam Torok

Excellent Episode ! Recently read Immovable Objects by A.B Abrams(Published by Clarity Press) and its the best book of Modern Korean History that I've ever read. The Book challenges completely the Western Hypocrisy, Myths, Exaggerations and Propaganda against North Korea. Those interested in Chinese and Korean history(as I am) should definitely read that book.

Richard Kim

This is the recent Korean movie adaptation (Eng. The Great Battle; Kor. Ansiseong) with subtitles that I mentioned during the show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v6nZcyr8LA The opening battle scene covers the battle in which the Tang army ambushed the Goguryeo army marching to relieve Ansi-seong, and the rest of the movie covers the siege itself. As I said, the movie is cheesy and certainly dripping with a fair amount of nationalism, but the battle scenes are still interesting nonetheless.

Ellen Harold

I seem to remember that someone called George Kennan (ambassador to Russia?) once also wrote a “ long telegram” at some point. Otherwise very good commentary. When i was young, Russian communism and atheism were presented by our Cold Warriors as virtually synonymous, I don’t think that premise has ever gone away in the high reaches of the blob. First as tragedy...

Logan Rogers

I know it's historical blasphemy but I really wanna take a grinding wheel to those ancient rusted armor sets

Dorst Savijeski

Havent listened yet but had the thought that anyone who thinks the gengis is in everyone myth thinks he did everything from bed. I.e China...

Larry Dimes

The DC crown is belatedly realizing that Globalization wasn't going to keep them in power indefinitely, and they're angry and terrified by this far too late realization and they're turning to a messianic faith with themselves as the central deity. As to what they might do, has anyone else noticed all the talk of a conventional war with the Taiwan Straight taking the place of the North German Plain? A big conventional set piece battle, with discussion of the nuclear element always missing. Congress is debating ICBMs again, and the US leadership is talking about the world in terms of two opposing blocs again. Do they really think they can fight a great power war that won't result in nuclear launches? I think you guys really need to do another episode on nukes, and the big cold war 'war that never was' in the popular imagination. It seems like that stuff that was supposed to have gone away forever in 1989 is coming back.

Stephen Joseph

Great episode!...so informative. Didnt know that paying tribute was a two way thing.

Adam Koslin

Yeah, Kennan's 1946 "Long Telegram" was one of the foundational documents of setting forth the view of Soviet foreign policy as both practically and necessarily expansionist, and recommending that the U.S. adopt a strategy of "containment" (which the US ultimately did). Also I'm baffled that the hosts could hear a reference to a "Shining City Upon A Hill" in a normie american foreign policy document and not understand that it's a reference to John Winthrop, the leader of the Plymouth Colony - a key phrase in the official American hagiography that got drummed into every schoolboy's head for decades - and also to Ronald Reagan. who brought the phrase back into circulation for the sprint to the finish against the doddering Brezhnevite USSR. That phrase isn't in the "longer telegram" because the Atlantic Council are all secret evangelicals, but because they're trying to evoke waving flags and "mom and apple pie". The Atlantic Council guys are yahoos, but they're not aiming for "ritual war," they're trying to keep the late Cold War status quo in place and brute-force the modern world into its theatrical roles because they profit from it and it's all they can ideologically conceive of. Also, if you really believe that China - home of Foxconn's suicide nets - has actually eliminated poverty, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.