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Kimber Tactical Custom II: Shelf Piece (Patreon)

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2021-06-25 14:17:06
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Kimber Tactical Custom II: Shelf Piece

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jay m

love all the vids, I always look forward to the motorcycle vids since I love to ride. If your ever back in Oregon i would love to ride with you, I ride a 2014 r1200gs and confident i can keep up

David Gaines

Bro, you are throwing me off with these morning uploads!

jay m

Would you ever consider putting together a Nutnfancy motorcycle ride for TMP Patreon guys?

Trent Thornton

You make the gayest facial expressions.

Powernoodle

I've owned a Les Baer 1911 for several years and have never taken it to the range. #justaconfession

Aaron Jones

Great review. I have owned this exact pistol for many years. Purchased way back in 2011 as my first 1911. I have experienced the reliability issues you mentioned over the years with the exception of light primer strikes. My Kimber is magazine picky, and now runs exclusively with Wilson Combat magazines if I don’t want any issues. Also, mine occasionally has issues extracting. Superbly accurate, 2nd cool for days, I will never sell it. Unless it comes down to it or my Dan Wesson Specialist…

CincinnatiDan (Ohio)

I’ve always loved the 1911 for its second cool factor but never wanted to carry one... for several reasons, one of which was i never got comfortable with the “cocked and locked”... yes, i onow, i need to train more and trust myself. Also didn’t like the price of ammo. Now this video has me thinking one might be fun at the range.

Guy Actual

Plugged Barrel Test! I love my Colt Mk IV. But, in all fairness, many if the internals are not made by colt but are instead... Wilson Combat. The standard MkIV is good, don't get me wrong... But changing out the springs, sear, extended slide release (For my Trump hands, lol), full guide rod, mag well... Now its a dream to shoot. I am a believer in the full guide rod, and I wasn't before, but my buddy talked me into it and it really did tighten up the groups. Also with a recoil spring change and a shocbuf, its a dream to shoot... Recoil is my favorite of all my handguns.

JACK W TRENARY

Great video never would have thought that Kimber would have trouble with their firing pin. Assuming that's what the problem is anyway. How would one go about sending a knife to you for a KRV?

Kyle Soucy

I have a Kimber Stainless II and I love it. Do I run it super hard in rough conditions? No. It’s a range toy. But I’ve had maybe only a handful of failures out of it over several hundreds of rounds over the years and some of that was even shooting TULA. Not a GTW piece but it’s been a fun gun to have.

Lon N

Awesome morning surprise GRV. I've been packing a Kimber Ultra Carry since about 1997-8. I run Corbon +P 185 grains in it. Data point on the Chip McCormick Shooting Star mags - I have experienced magazine lip spreading on one when it was loaded to 8 rounds inserted into my full size 1911 long term under a chambered round. The result was a hard stoppage, nose down into the ramp locking the gun up tight after the first shot...bad juju & lesson learned. No lip spreading over the long term with 8 rounds stored in a mag pouch with the Chip McCormick SS mags.

Tygre

1978 Colt Mk IV Series 70 Govt. Over forty years (one owner) and thousands of rounds out of all kinds of magazines: one stovepipe, caused by an under-powered factory round, 230 grain fmj Remington. Wouldn't part with that pistol for anything.

Steve Feeser

I'm wondering if the misfires are due to the firing pin safety not fully releasing the firing pin. That system is funky. I changed my Target 2 to an arched main spring housing and it started to misfire. Took out the safety parts and it's worked fine since.

Schmuckatelli

I own exactly one 1911. It's the Colt M1911-A1 that I inherited from my dad. Do I like it? Hell yeah! It's old, it's got a lot of wear on it, and it's freakin' awesome. But my go to war pistol is still my G17 (because round capacity, weight, reliability, simplicity...all the reasons). PS Getting two TNP videos this morning was a great way to start my Friday.

Nathan P Hubsch

First gun I bought was a Springfield 1911 RO Elite in 45. It's been excellent, ran easily 2,000+ rounds through it by now. Only issue I've had with it was an ammo problem with the American Eagle Syntech ammo, that stuff sucks.

CDK

Sold lots of Kimber's at gun store I worked at. Never saw any get sent in for repair, but did see alot of unfired ones come back on trade.....

Jayson Fraser

If you made a tap dancing banana channel, I'd subscribe in a heartbeat. That little graphic cracked me up.

Shawn Kuse

Love my Ed Brown 5 inch 1911. Would I EDC it? No way. Too heavy. Stick with your polymer wonder nines for that. Great range toy and BBQ gun.

Shot442

The “II” in the model name denotes it has the Swartz-style firing pin safety which was likely the cause of your non primer strikes not light primer strikes. If your hand shifts even slightly on the grip safety, the hammer will fall but the gun won’t fire due to the FPS. This is different from a Series 80 style or ideally those without a FPS as designed originally. I can say first hand from wasting a lot of my own money that Kimbers suck. And if you do buy a Kimber don’t buy one with a II in the model name.

Cyborg009

I have the long discontinued 5 inch Kimber SIS. So cool, so impractical.

Shot442

Awesome! I have the 4.25” SIS Pro and you are so right! Gorgeous gun with the slickest finish ever.

Cyborg009

Yeah that finish is gorgeous. Pictures do not do it justice.

Phillip Robinette McKracken

Nutn, I'm sitting on thoughts enough to fill a white paper, or a full length novel. I have a lot of conflicting testimony to give on Kimber in general. I know you're a smart guy, so I'm not going to diminish what you found in the review pistol. I have a Classic Custom which is hard to identify by purchase date, as I'm over 50 and the decades roll by fast. I'm thinking it was maybe 1990+ when the initial Kimber lineup started to shake the market. Let's say 1990-2002... This was before they could demand the price point, as they hadn't made their mark yet. I honestly think I paid between $650 and $700, no lie. After the first range trip, I knew I had spent money well on this pistol. Fed well, hit well, despite being my second 45ACP. (My first was a Llama , model "who will ever know". Still around, looks great, shoots crappy, likes to bend link pins) Forward in time. Cat urinates on nice padded foamy plastic shell case. (Yeah, didn't see that one coming, did we?) Slide becomes rusty disguisting finish. Thankfully a friend has a full hour free to talk to Kimber factory. Over the course of the hour, they admit that it's not parkerization, it's not blue, it's really not much more than the baked on enamel or similar finish that was available then, before the introduction of cerakote, etc. Same friend has a park tank, and we've done some shotgun parts in it before...etc. , so it's game on. No return to Kimber... no way, we got this. During the process we learn about who is ferric metal, and who was stainless. Based on that, we now have a really odd two tone thing going on. I accept it as my mark of education, and strength against all odds, much like that walk that Worf took as a right of passage, with the klingon pain sticks, on that ...??TNN episode. Time marches on. Hogue serrated finger grip thingie. Etc. Then the unfortunate day comes when the bushing appears to have picked up a perfect stone of diamond, or ceramic break dust, and proceeds to completely gouge and route the guide rod. Again, no factory for me, no thanks. Against the choice of moving to a short guide rod, and having a happier existence, Brownells decided it was not that important to keep a good supply of short guide rods. So with extreme prejudice, I enter into a binding agreement to purchase a full length guide rod, complete with the hex bolt fixing mechanism that defies all simple takedown of the pistol. I make it thru that, after a several month period where I have the pistol fully lock on a round, and become as though it became welded shut. Another life lesson. Turn the guide rod spring around dummy!. So here I sit, with the 45 ACP of my dreams. The only pistol I would want to have available, if somebody told me "hey... got 4 meth heads coming to your door in 30 seconds. You only have 4 rounds in the magazine." Yeah, stake my life on it. Lubed , not lubed, cleaned, not cleaned. The only time it failed for me was with the guide rod problem, which I failed to diagnose early. It ran green steel Russian named ammo, hollow point, lead hollow point, factory Winchester, and anything I could find on the ground, without failure otherwise. Paper plate, 25 yards. Give me 11" by 11" and it would be even easier. I don't have a 48 round 9mm, and I'm not sure I would want it. I would love to send you pictures, if you wanted to see the mess, and honestly, you are one of only 2 people I would let review it, if it was helpful to you. Either way, don't give up the good fight. And thank you for not selling out on any review. Wayne

Adam Boyd

I think I remember you pulling a Springfield XD S out of the snow, but you're right, not a lot of click bait fail testing. Cool video 👍 It reminds me that I haven't fired a .45 in years. I need to go rent one. There's something about shooting that round that just makes me smile, even more than my 10mm.

The Nutnfancy Project

Thanks S. With your Colt 1911 you'll really like one I'm putting through testing now and it did great.

The Nutnfancy Project

Good to know Shot, thanks for that. I wish I would have incorporated that into the review. What a dumb system that is (Swartz).

Racing Psychosis

I use to think Kimbers were so cool, now I'm pretty much over their sexiness, for me they are just eyecandy that pretty much is not something I want to own or shoot, or in some cases attempt to shoot, since I know people that have a lot of trouble with them. And pretty much over the 1911, cool gun, but not something I'm going to carry or rely on when needed. Its a dinosaur and range toy to me.

Phillip Robinette McKracken

Adam, for me the .45 is almost like that bullet curving Matrix thing. You can feel almost every step of battery and following shot. Maybe even adjust after the trigger is pulled. Slow , fat, and sucks if it hits you.....

Wyatt B. Harrison

MY first 1911 was a Aluminum alloy Springfield Loaded 5" 45acp. I had to part with it because it consistently hit 3 feet low at 25 yards. and the frame rails began to Gaul off aluminum deeply. i wouldnt have another alloy frame 1911 again. Sticking to steel and yes, they are just range guns and open carry on July 4th Independence day.

Tacticaldoodle

At least they checkered the front strap this time....

Johnathon Zook

I have a Ruger sr1911 and absolutely love it, I don’t shoot it often (especially since we have all this ammo shortage going on) it’s a great 1911 for the price

Scott Reichard

Wow i need to watch this. I often carry a 4.25 inch 1911..yes really. I like my S&W scandium 1911 in 45 acp. I never warmed to 9mm 1911's but love them in 10mm and of course 45 acp. My other carry pistol is a very different choice. A s&w shield in 45 acp. Love it and of course its easy to carry and reliable.

The Nutnfancy Project

No doubt. I REALLY love shooting .45 ACP, just so fun. It's killing expensive though, even worse now. Reloading components are in short supply too. Nevertheless I saw the shortage coming years ago and used Patreon money to stock up on the ammo so testing can continue.

The Nutnfancy Project

Wow, that was a novel Wayne but I read the whole thing. Glad you love your Kimber and you've stuck with it. I do not condemn Kimber at all, just share what happens with the individual piece being reviewed. I've shot and reviewed some good Kimbers here and raved about them. So it goes. My only issue with Kimber is their high pricing and stuck up-edness. Their products are not better than others and sometimes worse as we see here but they continue to market them as the "best." They ain't.

The Nutnfancy Project

"And pretty much over the 1911, cool gun, but not something I'm going to carry or rely on when needed. Its a dinosaur and range toy to me." So true RP. I do love them so but in the safe they stay until the next steel drill I set up, then they rule. All stated here and I feel the same way! https://youtu.be/glP0YeWqdws

The Nutnfancy Project

Well it's just one Kimber, not the whole line. Still good data to consider I guess. " I like my S&W scandium 1911 in 45 acp. " I still have my S&W Scandium 1911, one my faves. If I carried a 1911 this would be it.

Scott Reichard

Nutn. I have been shooting 1911's since 1980. My favorite pistol. And I have custom colts for ipsc to ed brown and les baer.. love the 10mm colt delta elites too. But my s&w 4.25 inch scandium is just an awesome thin and easy for me to carry 1911. I like leather IWB holsters with lots of rake.. and they just fit me well. After 40 years and 150 k rounds thru my 1911's they just feel right. I load my own 185 grain nosler comp bullets for training.. and hornady critical duty for carry.. works great for me.

Metal-Militia

I owned a Kimber Raptor II in 2011. I traded for a Glock 21 Gen 2, 10- factory standard Magazines & a 25rd junkard, rod laser, parts, 200 rounds of premium self-defense ammunition Plus $800 cash back in 2012. I made out awesome I would say. I miss it but I love my Glock 21 way more. When I purchased the Kimber I had to run 500rds to break it in and it ran flawlessly in small competitions at my LGR. Another thing I did is change all springs with Wilson Combat parts. Another major thing is I purchased four Wilson ETM 8-round Magazines. The ETM Magazines are the best of the best. The Magazines have a butter smooth finish which make speed loading a cinch. Also they fed the 1911 reliably and cleaned quickly. I had lots of memories with the Kimber but I would not purchased another one again, especially in today's pricing. Your money can go further in newer options.

mm80121

Got a Springfield Armory MC Operator off the TNP review from WAY WAY back. I don’t regret it. I never bought a Kimber but I’ve heard mixed things about quality control. Shot a friend’s Kimber Ultra Carry in .45 ACP and loved it. He never had any issues with it. Other folks had issues and sold them via private party. That said, my next 1911 will probably be a step up from Springfield, i.e. Nighthawk or Wilson Combat…if I can ever save the money up for it… 1911s are just cool. They probably don’t make the most sense when you can have twice the capacity and way less weight with polymer options, but I still like them.

Nathan Simms aka Darkpriest

1911s are completely about 2nd cool at this point. There are so many better options, even in .45 ACP. I do not personally own one but I've shot probably 50 models. SAWC will always keep me from carrying one here in Texas.

A

Review more Kimbers!

Steven R

When I shoot my kimber with a loose “target grip” sometimes I don’t engage the firing pin safety and I get a failure to fire.

Steven R

Great videos!

Jim P.

Great GRV, as always! I noticed that your jams seemed to be FTF issues. Several years back I purchased what I considered to be a Value 1911, at about $1K. Great company (mfg in Germany + New Hampshire), and had several of their other pistols with NEVER a malfunction of any kind. The 1911, however, experienced several FTFs on its first outing, and I figured something was just bad with the gun. Sent it back to the manufacturer, only to have them tell me, "It was test fired with no problems...May need 250 rounds fired for proper break-in." So in my "Snowflakyness" I thought, "Wait...I pay $1K for a gun, then another $125 and my time to get it to work right? .....Welcome to 1911ville...Love it or leave it!" I think it's something inherent to the 1911 design that parts in a tight gun need to fit just right for it to work. So you either pay $3K for a "tuned" gun that works out of the box or $1K, give or take, and "tune" it yourself with a break-in period...that takes as long as it takes.

Mike S

Had a feeling that this review was going to be mixed just by the video thumbnail. Just from seeing Nutn's Kimber videos, the Kimber 1911s seem like a mixed bag that look cool but end up failing horribly.

David Elkins

I’ve kinda always thought Kimbers were slightly gussied up and way overpriced with not enough value added.

HuntsTheBoss

Entertaining as always, was wondering why the stores always have these on the shelves. Guess they really won't sell now.

Scott Reichard

Well the 250 rounds will get fired in any case I assume. If you plan on shooting a 1911 I would assume your planning on firing thousands of rounds. So 250 or even 500 to get all the parts worn in does not seem a big deal. Its like saying I bought new leather work boots and new jeans and wore them and they are not super comfy on the first day. Well after months or years they wear in and become comfy. Fitted just to you. And learning to shoot a new gun. 1911 or not requires some rounds to get the feel of the sights and the trugger. So I see nothing wrong with getting a gun to wear in thru use. Same with a pocketknife. Dont be so impatient in guns or yourself.. good things take time. Learning to play the guitar or ride a motorcycle or be in a relationship all get better as things wear in.. My girlfriend buys ungodly expensive shoes and boots.. she pays for them and she can make up her own mind. Her 700 dollar boots or 600 dollar shoes hurt like hell when she buys them.. tall heels and still expensive leather she wears them not being super comfy until they become super comfy for her. So guns in my opinion expecially 1911's get better thru use. My ed brown and les baers and even my colt delta elites did work 100 percent out of the box. But honestly they feel so much better after 5000 or 10000 rounds.. Chainsaws.. motorcycles .. cars.. airplane engines all work better once they are worn in.. why would a gun be a piece of junk because it followed the same pattern.. ??

Scott Reichard

Jim. Would you buy a new glock or sig or even a hk and load it up and assume its perfect for defending your life despite having fired zero rounds ?? I would hope it works. But not trust is until I ran at least a couple hundred rounds plus at least 50 to 100 of my chosen defensive rounds.. i just dont understand your point of view as I understand it.. that sig failed you by saying you should run a few hundred rounds thru the pistol to get it reliable.. i have had brand new sigs and glocks and hk pistols that had a few moments of not being quite right until they were fired and oiled a cleaned a bit. My favorite carry 1911 is my s&w 4.25 inch scandium carry piece in 45. I bought it used and met the first owner and ran 100 to 150 rounds thru it at the range the day I bought it. I love that gun.. just awesome. Maybe that should be the way you buy your next 1911 if you choose to get another.

Trevor K

i am a big bore handgun and 1911 guy. Kimbers just don't do anything for me. they seem really dated. nothing new or innovative and its not like Glock that has a winning product so they never changed it in 40 years. Kimbers have bugs in them and they still cant get them out.

Jim P.

Hi, Scott. I didn't mean to imply that my Sig 1911 was "junk," only that I was a rookie with 1911s. I own several P-series guns, and they have worked every time, all the time, right out of the box. Same with my newer Gs. I have heard stories that some companies have issues with QC from time to time, and thought that might be the case here. Also, when I bought the gun, Sig was new to the 1911 market, and this was my first 1911. I was a newbie, and thought, "WTH?" Since then I've learned...It was me, not the gun. Thanks for the insight.

Scott Reichard

Jim.. hope you learn to enjoy a 1911... they can be fantastic to shoot.. with over 40 years of them I dont even think anout operation. They just work for me. They require more oil than many polymer guns but they can be super reliable.. some folks dont want to invest any time in getting to know how to maintain a 1911... just as many people dont want to learn how to operate a manual transmission.. i like to feel part of the system in both cases

Tacticaldoodle

What they really needed was to get some contract with a gov agency or .mil for that valuable "professional" cachet. If they played it up right, all the cloners would be obsessing over them and you'd see a halo effect. Instead they're just upscale guns for orthodontists, to me.

Jim P.

Scott, Following my misplaced frustration with my first 1911, I tried WC, but they were too" something" for my taste. I'm not sure what. Too nice? (Strictly a "taste" thing, I'm sure.) Eventually settled on an EB SF. Seems just right. Yes, like manuals. Learned at 16, and can't let them go. Now with 6spd. Makes me happy. Thanks again, Brother.

Robert Ring

I have never been super impressed with Kimber. I had one could never get out to function reliably and I was even less impressed when my buddy bought his and it started to rust within a month of purchase and Kimber made him to pay get it refinished. At the same time the gun store has no less than a dozen of new Kimbers sitting in their display case rusty. Biggest over priced over hyped pieces of donkey shit I have ever seen.

Hal Blackmore

I had a Kimber Pro Carry II that often failed to go into battery properly. Sent it into the factory for repair. When I got it back it was ejecting casings into my safety glasses. Sold it immediately! What a shame because when it functioned correctly it was a joy to shoot and quite accurately.

Chris Stookey

Good video, Nutn. I've had mixed results with the Kimbers that I've owned. Had a Pro Carry II that would eject casings right back at me (same experience as Hal commented on above). Ended up taking it to a smith that goofed it up. Ended up with a replacement in the HD variant. Problem solved. Have an older CDP II Custom that has ran great the entire time that I've had it. This all said, as of late, I'm hearing that Kimber's quality has improved and that they are making nicer guns again. Every brand has it's ups and downs. Glad to see Kimber leave the Nazi state of New York! Keep up the great work.

2 4 3 is me

Just never been a 1911 guy.

Trevor V. V.

I looked at one of the light strikes. That is a totally abnormal striking mark. Both in indentation and location on the primer. I would check the firing pin. After 4 1911s and 10 years of USPSA, I wouldn't be surprised if firing pin was broken in its channel. Two other things to check would be the firing pin spring; that could be broken and threaded on itself. And the mainspring. That could be warn/broken as well.

Tim Bone

Not a total loss. Looks like you are using a "Kimber Font" in the upper left-hand corner of the Nutnfancy videos. Kimber is good for something. 😂🤣😂

Tim Bone

That's great. The 1911 is a great piece of American history...but I fear you may be part of a dying breed of gunowner.

Scott Reichard

Jim p glad you hooked up with ed brown. I have an executive elite that I just love. Its been excellent. My les baer has also been a great machine.

Jen S

Anyone like the tlr-6 on a 1911? I want to use my non-railed 1911 for hd.

Big50

I’ve been a 1911 fan since about 2005 when I bought a Kimber Warrior (non-Series II ie non-Swartz). It had a few hiccups, mostly FTF here & there, until about 400 rounds. Since then, perfect. It’s an absolute joy to shoot. As someone mentioned above, I’d bet the light strike problem is the Swartz safety. Yes, IMO an answer looking for a problem. And yes, something that shouldn’t leave the factory out of timing. I’ve done some formal training and light competition with 1911’s, Glocks, & SA/DA pistols. For me, 1911’s are the most fun. What’s more exciting than a magazine change—or two…or three, right? 😁. If I had to choose a GTW, it’d probably be a P226 though.