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Tom Cruise, Ken Watanabe, Hiroyuki Sanada, Koyuki, Tony Goldwyn, Timothy Spall, Billy Connolly, Shin Koyomada

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Erin Mileur

I’ve always thought the alternate title of this movie could have been Dances with Samurai.

Erin Mileur

Tony Goldwyn interestingly is the grandson of legendary producer Samuel Goldwyn whose name is the G in MGM (Metro Goldwyn Mayer). He is also the grandson of Sidney Howard who won the 1925 Pulitzer Prize for Drama and won the Oscar for the screenplay for Gone With The Wind.

Erin Mileur

Billy Connolly has said that one of the things he is most proud of is that he is the first and so far only person to ever die in a Muppet movie he appeared in Muppet Treasure Island.

Nick Stark

I absolutely LOVE the soundtrack from this film. I’ve had it in my music library forever. I’ve never seen the movie, however. Like you said, just didn’t initially interest me. Okay so I’ll finally see what all the fuss is about. On the bright side, I know I’ll be loving the score. One of my favorites from Hans Zimmer below. https://youtu.be/TLap-FVCwCQ?is=bZjd0JGYdL9dl63D

dys

As a 90s kid I think I formed an unfair impression of Tom Cruise early on because the adults in my life had already decided he was a bad actor. Some of the movies he was in around 2000 didn't help me realize that impression was wrong, I mean Mission Impossible 2 is just an awful movie, it's a miracle the series got so good after that. But no, he is legitimately a good actor, much as I think he's not a great person in real life. He's not a character actor, he will never disappear into a role like Daniel Day-Lewis, Stanley Tucci, Chiwetel Ejiofor, JK Simmons, etc. but the charisma he has is a real talent, he is a Movie Star and that does actually take skill. Re the beginning banter, I didn't even know about Matt Damon turning down Avatar for 10% / $300 million. Is it a hot take when I say Matt Damon is in a whole other league as an actor, Sam Worthington just should not even be in the same conversation? I think Avatar is a good but not great movie, and having Matt Damon in it would not really have got it over the level to greatness anyway, Worthington's acceptable acting and noticeably bad American accent weren't really the things that dragged it down. But I don't think Worthington is a good actor of even remotely comparable ability to those I mentioned above.

dys

Just a note on the format, with your video covering a whole corner of the film... I am watching it for your reaction, for sure, but I also don't want to miss a whole quarter of the movie (visually) even though I've seen this movie several times before. There will be things you are commenting on that take place in that bottom right quarter of the screen. I paid the $3.99 to rent it again this time, I think copyright laws are kinda screwed up in the US... so I watched with the watch-along version but these uncut versions are in kind of a weird middle ground where someone who hasn't paid for the movie outside your channel can watch it with 1/4 cut off. I guess my suggestion for patreon is, orient the way your reactions are overlaid so they don't cutoff parts of the frame but don't allow watching just your version fullscreen. The Cinebinge channel does a pretty good job on this IMO.

Jonathan

I will gladly add the movie adaptation of The Killer Angels on to your watch list, if you are interested.

Jonathan Eaton

Whenever it's a movie that Cinebinge has already reacted to, I put the watch-along version for this channel on top of the Cinebinge reaction using picture-in-picture , so Kevin and Joe are between Simone and George and right above the movie.

Jonathan Eaton

Which is what I just did for this movie.

Ashley Thomas

i love this movie. its so sad, i cry every time. but its so beautiful and so well done. i dont know a lot about the samurai rebellion of 1877, but it did happen. this is based on a real event. but algren isnt real. apparently he was based loosely on a couple guys but him being there with them like that was fiction. it works though. he is the POV and i think it works well. i do think that tom cruise is a good actor. and in something like this i see the acting and not him. but when hes in something like jerry mcguire i see tom cruise and i think about who he is as a real person. so i think i appreciate him a lot more in dramatic roles that make me forget who he is.

Jonathan

This movie was in the resurgence of the battle epics of the early 2000s this was the year of Return of the King and the first Pirates film and was on the heels of Gladiator and Patriot the summer before. I loved this in theaters but Tom Cruise being the only "big name" when he was in the post MI2 slump box office wise didn't help.

Jonathan

I have still not seen Collateral. I didn't realize the movie even existed till a couple years ago, right now what's stopping me is that I've seen so many of his movies that I like there is a great one out there I haven't seen so I'll save it for the perfect time.

Suzanne Whyte

Suicidal ex-soldier falls in love with the culture of his enemy and changes allegiance is quite a common trope but I enjoy them all. It was amusing when the guys started discussing Avatar at the beginning since that’s another film that fits the trope.

Suzanne Whyte

This seems like the appropriate time to recommend the Shogun Tv series. I haven’t actually watched its yet but I’ve heard it’s fantastic and it’s only 10 episodes.

Paul T Hewes

One of the best movie scores Hans Zimmer did. And that is saying something

I🖤Kraken

And he's cute when he stabs a kitchen counter in Ghost. Seriously, Tony Goldwyn is a wonderful actor and loved him in Scandal and I believe he's a pretty good director too.

Joshua Taylor

Great movie and great reaction you guys. I find the love story aspect a great example of the compromise between art and commerce. Zwick found the middle ground, while also wedging in the love story demographic brilliantly. The actor who played Ujiio is Hiroyuki Sanada, not only a great actor but a trained swordsman too! He is the lead of the series Shogun which would be a good follow-up to Andor.

Seth Walker

I'm happy you guys enjoyed this movie. It was my first exposure to Ken Watanabe. I loved his performance so much and was thrilled when it was said that he'd be Ras Ah Ghul in Batman Begins. I was so utterly disappointed when that ended up being a misderect and it was Liam Niassen instead. As far as the historical epics of the early 2000s this is by far my favorite. I love Gladiator as well but I feel like Edward Zwick's direction in this movie was all around stronger than Ridley Scott's was. Going back and watching Gladiator today you see how choppy the editing is and how the scenes aren't staged nearly as well. Same goes for Kingdom of Heaven which I hold is a very good movie if you watch the director's cut but still suffers from the same issues as Gladiator. Tom Cruise may be a questionable person in real life but he is an fantastic actor. This movie, Magnolia, A Few Good Men, Minority Report, Collateral, Valkyrie, Edge of Tommorow... all fantastic performances from a truly underrated actor. Also easily my favorite Hans Zimmer score.

Zach Hershman

For the most part, it is a great show. The 2nd season for it will come out in a year or two.

jimmy2k4o .

He also married to Peri gilpin (Roz from Frazier)

Youtalkingtome

It's very much Avatar / Dances with Wolves, isn't it?

Youtalkingtome

We haven't seen it, but I recall it was nominated for every Emmy.

Youtalkingtome

Hollywood really wanted to make Sam Worthington a star for a long stretch, but it just never happened. He just doesn't really show me much range or depth.

Youtalkingtome

It's tough with a legitimate "movie star" not to see the actor, I feel. Legends like Cary Grant and Katharine Hepburn seem to have similar uphill battles (though Hepburn won 4 Academy Awards, so she won that battle).

AdamPacio.art

The historical bookend to the Last Samurai is the 2024 adaptation of the novel Shogun, in a series of 10 episdoes for 1 season covering the book, and a 2nd season in production currently which continues the historical events. Hiroyuki Sanada, also in this film as the Samurai who taught Algren to fight with the sword, is the Japanese lead for Shogun, opposite Cosmo Jarvis as the westerner. Where The Last Samurai tells the end of the Samurai's direct influence in Japan, Shogun goes back to 1600 and tells the middle of the Samurai's influence in the events in historical Japan which ultimately kicked off the Edo Period, the golden age of Feudal Japan when the Emperor was a ceremonial figurehead and the Warlord (Shogun) ruled in the Emperor's name, through the Shogun's power base. When Samurai devoted themselves completely to service to the Empire and became a sort of gentleman's club. Just like the French King did in Versailles, the Shogun controlled his opponents in the Edo period by requiring a great deal of noblesse oblige and by ritualizing and formalizing the manners at court to force the Samurai lords to spend lavishly to maintain appearances and the lifestyle of court, thus preventing them from raising armies in rebellion. Not to mention all the time that they suddenly had to spend to master the Courtly arts of falconry, calligraphy, theater, dance, history, and formal learning. Hiroyuki Sanada's work on Shogun, an excellent novel by James Clavell, was to act as a creative producer and to flex his real-life credentials as a historical accuracy expert in that pre-Edo period in Japan. The result was a stunning, marvelous series. 10 hour-long episodes in the first season. When you get some room on your series dance cards, I highly recommend checking out the FX reboot of Shogun for your next watch. You will not regret it. And you will likely want to come back after you see it to view the Last Samurai one more time.

Youtalkingtome

Kevin here. If the film is Gettysburg, I saw it many years ago.

Jonathan

Yes it is Gettysburg

Youtalkingtome

For sure, we forget that there was a stretch where Tom Cruise wasn't a guaranteed hit maker.

Youtalkingtome

Collateral is my favorite Michael Mann film (among those I've seen).

AdamPacio.art

Also, if you want the Hiroyuki Sanada hat trick and a film that advances 70 years from Last Samurai, you @could@ watch Memoirs of a Geisha, the fictionalized life of real-life Geisha Mineko Iwasaki, which ALSO stars Hiroyuki Sanada and Michelle Yeoh. However, be advised that Memoirs of a Geisha was considered by Mineko Iwasaki to be full of inaccuracies pertaining to her own life, and she was not happy with the author when it came out. She went on to write her official memoirs herself under the title of Geisha of Gion, where she corrected all the inaccuracies from Arthur Golden, who wrote Memoirs of a Geisha's novel. That movie was also criticized for a lot of historical innacuracies by Japanese audiences, and also for casting Chinese actresses in the geisha roles when there were many capable Japanese actresses available for the part. If you approach it as more of a work of fiction and don't try to apply the culture shown with real history, it's not a bad work of fiction, but it should be taken as a Western fantasy overall. However, it does provide a topically-adjacent extension of one of the last surviving cultural practices which began in the Edo period, and it's not a bad piece of theater once you understand the inaccuracies and the criticism of the work by the woman it's based on and the fact that Japan has marked it as a romanticization.

Youtalkingtome

This was great! I always forget about Edge of Tomorrow, but that movie is a blast and Cruise really carries it well. He should have won an Oscar for Magnolia. I have never considered him a "bad guy" (although I think he associates with a lot of them in his church), but rather just kind of a weird guy.

AdamPacio.art

If you move forward 25 years again in time from the Memoirs of a Geisha fantasy, there is one final piece of absolutely stellar and fascinating depictions of the Geisha traditions in modern Japan which is actually part of a bona fide doctoral thesis. It is the book titled "Geisha" by American anthropologist Liza Dalby. When she was working on her cultural anthropology doctorate studying the Geisha of Japan, she spent a year in the country performing field research. She began in Kyoto, and when she showed up at the Geisha Mama-san's House who had agreed to allow her to observe and learn from them, the woman told her "The only way you will ever know what it is to be Geisha is to become one. So, let's begin your training." Liza Dalby was formally trained for a year in Kyoto, and she earned her keep at the Geisha House by becoming a Geisha named Ichigiku in the 70s. She learned first as a trainee, then became a formally certified and presented Maiko (the stylized makeup and costumes the West presumes are full Geisha are actually the formal Apprentices, the Maiko), and was finally acknowledged as a full Geisha, and had clients and performed music and dance at parties in the tea houses alongside her sister Geisha and her Mama-san, and earned quite a bit of money for her trainer's House for the rarity of being an American caucasian woman who was legitimately accepted by the oldest traditions of Geisha still in Japan. There's no movie of her life, but there is a book from her studies (she went on from Kyoto to experience how other regions also had modern Geisha, but they were more 'party hostesses' than formal art-people, though Dalby spent several months in every Geisha tradition that would have her , doing formal cultural anthropological field work and documentation. The book was published in 1983, and it is still available from Amazon. The title is simply "Geisha", and it's a very easy, non-technical, and absolutely fascinating read.

Zach Hershman

This movie is loosely based on the Satsuma Rebellion. This movie, like most other samurai-based lore, is a highly romanticized look at samurai society. The samurai rebelled against the new Japanese government mainly because they lost all of their power. The samurai class were part of the ruling elite that mostly looked down on the rest of the people. Not all did. There were good and bad samurai. Also, Algren is NOT the last samurai. All of the women and children in that village were all part of the samurai class. They weren't trained warriors, but the samurai weren't just warriors. Heck, in certain eras, you'd find many samurai who had very little warrior training. One last thing, many of the current ruling class were/are samurai. Omura, the main villain in this movie, was actually a samurai. He is based on Ōkubo Toshimichi, a low-ranking samurai, who was part of the many samurai who helped put the Meiji government back into power. In fact, based on the historical people (and not the characters in this movie), Omura and Katsumoto would actually have been childhood friends.

Zach Hershman

I highly recommend you guys watch it. I think you'd love it. It takes place around 180 years before this movie, and focuses on an era in which samurai were battling for power. The first season is based on a book by James Clavell (upcoming seasons are based on other books he wrote). It is a piece of historical fiction. Most of the characters are based on real-life people, but the author changed their names so he could add his own narrative to the story.

dys

The guy you mentioned having six lines but a lot of presence in this movie is played by Hiroyuki Sanada, one of the main stars of Shogun. He was the first Japanese actor EVER to win a best actor Emmy for his role in it. It's an incredible series, that despite being a highly fictionalized version of Japanese history just like this movie, is to my understanding a much more accurate portrayal of Japanese culture and western contact with it.

dys

if that works for you that's cool I guess, I would never want to watch a movie that way personally. It's already hard enough for reactors to judge when to talk over a movie, I'd think watching with two separate reaction channels' commentary would miss too much of the movie AND the reactions.

Darcy Smith

One of the things that's stayed with me from this movie is the scene where Bagley asks "What is it about your own people that you hate so much?" In trying to understand the dynamics of racism in general and the social dynamics of America in particular, I've heard experts say that loyalty to the in-group is a big trait shared by those who lean conservative, which also tend to have the disproportionate amount of racists. And loyalty I can appreciate, but for so many, their view of loyalty seems so black and white. That you can't appreciate your own culture and background if you appreciate someone else's. Especially since 9/11 I've heard so many express some variation of this view, an unconscious rejection of pluralism. That you have to hate, or at least look down upon, the out-group in order to be truly loyal to the in-group. That's one of the things that signals good writing to me, that human nature is honestly and naturally captured in the characters, and why the character of Bagley works so well in this story, I think. But I've still never been able to understand why people hold this belief. More and more I think it's pointless to try to understand, though it goes against the grain.

Daniel Andersen

There was some slack for this movie, but it was mainly people misunderstand the title. Tom Cruise is not the last samurai, samurai in the title is plural and those people clearly mistook the theme of the movie

Daniel Andersen

Gonna be the negative one here, preferred the original with Chamberlain

Youtalkingtome

My personal opinion is that it is a result of the right-wing propaganda machine that has been hard at work since Fox News debuted in the 90s. Reagan set up the "all money for the rich" war on the middle and lower classes, and Fox et al started telling their audience that rich people were their friends, and minorities and other marginalized groups were to blame for their growing economic strife. It has been and continues to be a very effective misinformation campaign. It's this messaging that has allowed Donald Trump to happen.

Youtalkingtome

I remember this coming out recently and have been very curious about it. Would love to check that out as well

D Gyre

While this is Tom Cruise's best acting in my opinion, the only time I forget I'm watching him and see the character... this movie is good because of the rest of the cast, Ken Watanabe in particular. He owns the scene very single time he is on screen and swallows up Cruise in screen presence. I'm don't agree Cruise is underrated. He's a major star, and what he is best at is playing a version of Tom Cruise, which he does very very well. This movie does show how he can act outside of that, but these are the exception, not the rule. Cruise is good in this movie, but what's surprising about how good this movie is, is that cruise is not even one of the top 3 things that are great about it. Watanabe, Sanada, etc, the score, and the visuals I would all put above Cruise here in making this a great film, and I do think this is Cruises best acting performance that I've seen. But the others are just so good even with that. It is *a little* bit of a white savior movie because of the ending, and also the tacked on romantic plot. There's also some slightly western romanticized views here. The movie is not without a few small blemishes that belonged in the 90s, not the 2000s. It's definitely also a "loosely inspired by history" movie rather than close to accurate historical telling. That said, it does so much better than most movies on Japan/East Asia prior to it, and it went out of its way to get a lot of things right. It was well received in Japan as well. It's a great movie, we shouldn't ignore the flaws, but its a great movie and definitely was a step forward.

Ben Gilbert

Sanada had a lot of control over Shogun and insisted it be as authentic as possible.