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Mad Men, Season 4, Episode 12 (Patreon)

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2023-11-16 14:53:53
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Blowing Smoke

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Mad Men, Season 4, Episode 12

Blowing Smoke

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Chris

Do you think Faye recognizes something between Megan and Don or no? Im on the fence. Her reaction to Don’s bodyguard joke and the “have your girl make reservations” is delivered as if she thinks there’s something going on.

Chris

I love that mad men brings back supporting characters like duck, midge, freddy, glen, etc. and uses them to provide insight about main characters instead of just as a gimmick.

Actuarial Lurker

The "female cigarette" IS a veiled reference to Virginia Slims

Actuarial Lurker

The end scene where Atherton walks in without the client is a mirror of the American Airlines pitch in Season 2 with Duck Phillips bringing in the client for a still born pitch

Actuarial Lurker

Sad to see that Midge went hippie and became a heroine addict and implied that husband left to "go shopping" so she could turn a trick for drug $$

Weird Magic

Originally airing on October 10, 2010, 'Blowing Smoke' is Episode 12 of Season 4 of Mad Men. It is the 51st episode overall and has an IMDB rating of 8.8, placing it as the #3 ranked episode of this season and #9 out of all the episodes shown so far.

Actuarial Lurker

The sad part near the end is Peggy is progressive enough try to form an "old girls network" to empower other working women even if she doesn't realize it (to counter the old boys' network) and it flies right over Faye's head as she runs out with her box. It shows Faye is about half a generation ahead of Peggy in age and behind in thinking of possibilities although it is people like Faye who were trailblazers for the second wave of Peggys in breaking the glass ceiling at work

Actuarial Lurker

Rye is about 30 miles away from where Don's house is so they are still kind of local but not for a 10 year old girl with just a bike and 14 year old Glen without a car

Actuarial Lurker

Cooper said you never know when loyalty is born in season 1- Pete saves Don and looks like a fool by "losing the defense contractor account" and Don is actually a real man and fronts the $50K....so like you commented a few seasons ago- Don does stand up for coworkers- like when he stopped Paul making the pee jokes during the blood drive when Freddie was fired-saying they were ruining a good man's reputation

Henrique Jambu

I don't know if I read your reaction wrong but Peggy did approve of the letter! She just said that to tease Don ;)

Ben Clifford

Cannot wait for the finale - it goes in such an unpredictable direction that it’s actually impossible to spoil

Actuarial Lurker
>>122384903

Frankly I HATE the Season 4 Finale and where it take the show- I think Season 5 is superior and Season 6 is very good...I'll stop there

Youtalkingtome
>>122347596

I do too. The supporting cast is as strong as the main stays. I love all the characters. There isn't a weak performance on the show.

Robert Bauman

Thought this was a great Don episode both professionally and in how he treats people after the train wreck he's been for a good portion of the season. The pivot was necessary and is ahead of the curve on a lot of the anti-smoking stuff that would come as we move into the future. Hopefully it is enough to keep them afloat. The Season 4 finale is very memorable. Looking forward to seeing your thoughts on it.

Actuarial Lurker
>>122383720

Yes- in fact its a retort to Don that HE can an DID learn a thing or two from HER. Sometimes you need a really cheap stunt like a staged ham fight, a slightly more elegant stunt like the fake Honda ad riding around in a circle on a "closed set" or even bolder act like the "The Letter" which Don published on a FULL PAGE in the New York Times- in the 1960s that would have been a GLOBAL act like "breaking the internet" on social media is today given that was the widest read newspaper in the US or possibly the world

sam bristow

Hey J and K, want the backwash?

heheheheheh

Don is not a sociopath because sociopaths actually don't feel any guilt or remorse or empathy. And he clearly does, a lot of it sometimes, he just doesn't show it. But I sometimes wonder if Weiner was familiar with attachement theory, which incidentally was coined in the 60s by John Bowlby. There is a type in the attachment styles called a "dismissive avoidant" - someone who did not get the care and love they seeked as a child, so they learned to inhibit emotions and emotional displays and often seem to lack emparhy, because they have none for themselves. Constantly pushing people away who show them true intimacy and love, because it scares them. Unable to hold long term relationships and filled with self-loathing....

Youtalkingtome
>>122707200

That's really interesting. That's what makes this an interesting character study is the fact that we can only speculate what's wrong with him. He's not A he's B. Well maybe that's not what it is either. It's such a fun show to talk about.