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Malevolent: Chapter 234 [POLL] (Patreon)

Published:
2024-10-10 17:14:55
Imported:
2026-06

Poll

Malevolent: Chapter 234 [POLL]

  • What was written in the letter the prince received? 166
  • How was Warin intending to approach the meeting? 85
  • With it being a different history, how do the politics differ? 133
  • 2024-10-10
  • 384 votes
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Comments

Nicky

My concern about starting with the letter is that there’s no guarantee we’d get any more info than we already have about it and starting there is incredibly narrow / drastically limits where Arthur can go in terms of follow up

Lara

Second option doesn't exactly tell us what the meeting will be about, but it could partially answer the third, none of that will matter if we don't know why we were invited in the first place. So I guess I'll go for option one.

BuriedInTheArchives

I think knowing how the prince intended to approach the meeting could give us insight into the politics of the time as well. Was he hoping to gain favor, an ally against other forces, discuss tithings, eldritch gifts, etc

Nicky
>>151958504

Yorick already said Warin doesn’t know what it’s about…

Aebriel

didn't Yorick already say that Warin didn't know why he was invited? I don't see how asking about the letter will help us

Nicky
>>151958508

Exactly. The idea is, hopefully, Arthur can use it to jump into any of a variety of bits around -what he expected the folks at the castle to know about him / plan to be open about vs what he would keep secret -how Warin would act / expect others to act towards him -what he would consider suspicious -what other information or assumptions he had about the castle and whoever invited him Etc

Armitage

Second option seems like the best balance of open-ended and directly relevant. We already know the scope of the letter was narrow enough that Warick didn't know the reason for his invitation, and the conversation can easily turn from meeting approach to meeting invitation. And it naturally leads to information about local politics.

Fisher

Knowing what was in the letter doesn’t seem important. We’re supposed to be asking ABOUT Warin. The letter itself was just an invitation written by someone he didn’t know to a place he’d never been. I think the politics and history question would be the best actually because it would let us hopefully get an overview as to what Warin’s position in this world is and what others may know of him and what kinds of connections he may have had due to it. Clearly, someone at the castle knows of him, because he was invited, so if Arthur can’t present himself accurately then it’ll probably go bad pretty quickly.

Scottie

I'm gonna guess that Arthur would know something about this time in English history since 1) He already was suprised by who the king is and 2) we're right in the time period for Robin Hood and I think everyone knows a lil bit about that, so I assume Arthur does too. I'm voting for the politics question.

Audrey R

What if the letter was just an invitation? We would have no information… I agree with the others saying option #2 could give us the best of both worlds

lenore
>>151960489

I agree to an extent but if he doesn't know why he's there/the circumstances regarding him being summoned I'd worry about not approaching the situation correctly. I feel like the letter should hopefully give us an indication of warins position in the world based on the events leading to him being summoned and how he's addressed in that, maybe even, if the letter is from the king etc directly, it could give us an indication of our relation to them, it's a difficult choice tho I'll probs go for reading the letter

Queen
>>151966491

But option 2 is extremely subjective and could offer no help. In fact, Yorick could even answer just one word- "angrily" or "anxiously". At least with the politics question, we get some information that could be useful even if not related to Warin's identity specifically.

Audrey R
>>151966491

True, I can see that. But Yorick could also talk about land ownership or tax records with option 3

Queen
>>151960489

@lenore: we shouldn’t ask about what was in the letter not because it’s not a good question but because i don’t know if that’s the point of the story right now or if that would be something entertaining to read and on a lesser scale, because if i were harlan i wouldn’t want to sit down and spend 20 minutes crafting ye olde frenche letters that are supposed to be from an anonymous source with no explicit details as to what is requested of the character i understand the appeal of reading it, of course we could see arthur use his powers of investigation as best he can to discern the tone or subtext or something, maybe even get another clue about how the different historical events have changed things, but the prompt was “tell me everything about the prince” and i don’t know if “like what his mail said” is the best response to that when you don’t know this show is being 1/4th piloted by votes if someone said “tell me everything about yourself” during my journey to a castle to meet with an unknown source for an unknown engagement i definitely wouldn’t start with “well my letter said…” i think it’s valuable to know what the letter says. i DO wish we knew. but i don’t think it’s the BEST question we can ask yorick for how to behave. i would vote for the politics question.

Nicky
>>151966491

Even a one word answer leaves room to follow up the why and how, etc. to get at what he should know / how he should act / what he should look out for

Queen
>>151960100

Politics isn't always about government, though, it can be about social expectations or important events. Why risk trying to get Arthur guiding the conversation from 'approach' to 'politics' when you can just start at politics? If you don't know what's going on when someone invites you to their house, you only have a handful of options for how to approach it. There's not much Yorick can say beyond "oh he was feeling nervous" or "it was a neat opportunity, so he was excited." And sure Arthur can follow up with something- but I think his time would be better spent moving from "politics" to get a deeper understanding of the world he's occupying and about to try and fit into.

Queen
>>151958508

We don't need to know how Warin intended to approach because Warin could change his mind 8 times along the way. We should really start with politics. We may not even want to stick to whatever Warin's approach was going to be-- let's ask about something useful.

Queen
>>151966491

Why burn a question on a one-word answer when we could get any large amount of info? At least if we knew about land ownership we'd have SOME context or something to talk about. I don't want to rely on arthur following up with questions that I care about. I want the first question to do all the heavy lifting so the rest are bonus.

Abby-May Burkin

This one's gonna be a tough one to chose for me, I think. Still kinda leaning towards - what if there's something that the letter had that the Prince didn't recognize/pick up on, and Arthur might? Maybe a crest or sigil/sign? BUT Also knowing what the politics are of the time is very important, cause we honestly have no clue how this world could work!!

Beth Strano
>>151962463

He was surprised by who the King is because it is divergent from the history in his timeline. This isn’t an English history that he would know, he’s in a different timeline.

Beth Strano
>>151958308

I agree with this, and think that the second option gives us much more potential to explore the context of the invite, politics, etc.

Beth Strano

Remember- Arthur won’t likely ask only ONE question. He will only ask one of our questions, and his further questions will spin off from that.

Beth Strano
>>151966491

The instructions said that our chosen question will only be the *first* question. Arthur will ask follow up questions that are logical. There won’t be a situation where Yorick gives a one word answer and that’s the end of the conversation.

Beth Strano
>>151960100

Your description of politics as “government/social expectations/important events” all feels useful.

Fisher
>>151960489

See I think that if there was anything more to be learned about the invitation we would’ve known that already, because Arthur directly asked Yorick already about what the Prince knew and Yorick’s response was “he didn’t know who sent it to him, he didn’t know why they wanted him there, and he’d never been to the castle before, however it piqued his curiosity.” I also don’t understand how knowing what the actual invitation said would help Arthur successfully impersonate Warin more - which is the plan. There’s so much it leaves out.

Fisher

Initially I was voting for 2 because I had wanted it to be a springboard into asking about who Warin was and what that would mean to the people who invited him, but I realize now that a more straightforward way of hopefully getting that info is to ask about the politics and history, so then Arthur can work out what Warin’s position in the world was and what expectations others would have of him because of it. That seems like the most reliable information we can actually USE to impersonate Warin successfully! Vote 3!!

Nicky
>>151958508

It gives a place to spin off action/behavior/politics as well as personal information that may be relevant

Pan

The letter just satiates our curiosity. There's no other useful information it could provide us than what was in the contents. For all we know, it could be "Come to Castle Kerringford at this date" and thats it. The Prince doesn't know more than what was stated, as we've previously been told. And while some are arguing option 2 is the better one because it could unravel more threads, we don't know how Harlan will interpret the question. To vote politics would tell us more about the world around us so we could perhaps approach the situation more proper and knowledgeable. Knowing social culture and expectations ensures we're not going in blind with only the feelings of a deadman.

Queen
>>151966491

I'm not saying that either. I'm saying why are we burning through one of Arthur's questions by getting an unhelpful one-word answer? All we're doing is hoping that this question will lead to better questions. The politics question at least provides more information up front and does not rely on Arthur's follow-ups to get something potentially valuable.

Fisher
>>151972796

I strongly think that would’ve been mentioned already if there was anything else relevant in the letter back when Yorick was explaining how the Prince didn’t know who sent him the invitation. I do think it would be nice to read it and see if there’s anything suspicious, but that information isn’t going to help Arthur with impersonating Warin at all, it’s unrelated.

Queen

Trying to use as few words as possible to sum up why #3 is the only option I feel will get us anywhere: 1. Asking about a broad subject first gives us information we can utilize or analyze immediately, even if it is irrelevant to Warin as a person. 2. The letter has already been confirmed to contain no motivation for the invite and have no clear sender. Anything beyond that can be learned from asking about politics. 3. Politics means more than government, it means social expectations and norms, important events, and more. 4. Yorick's answer to the "approach" question will undoubtedly be simple and straightforward- potentially one word. While it may prod Arthur into asking more questions along those lines, I feel it is a huge waste of a question to basically say "I skip my turn and hope Arthur does what I want him to do all by himself because I tried to set him on the right track."

Abby-May Burkin
>>151972796

Hmm. Whilst I definitely see what you mean, we've already been shown that Yorick is not forthcoming with information, and might not have told us everything, lol!

Abby-May Burkin

For me personally, I don't believe #2 is the best option of the 3 because I do not think the Prince's intentions matter either way for 3 reasons - 1. Someone there has already seen/met the Prince and will immediately recognize Arthur is not him. 2. The Prince is only known by reputation, and if Arthur acts differently, it is not unreasonable to blame it on rumours and misinformation. 3. No-one has met the prince before, therefore it does not matter how Arthur acts. Whilst I still strongly want to know what is in the letter so Arthur is aware of all information the Prince himself had, knowing the politics and court rules is also important, and ultimately question 1 or 3 are the way to go. Very excited to see how this poll goes!! 😁

Fisher
>>151985503

I don’t think option one is the best most helpful thing we can ask Yorick that’s gonna make impersonating Warin easier - I think it’s gotta be option 3.

Patchrat
>>151985503

I shared your views at first but in the discord they were talking about how we already know from what Yorick has said that the letter didn't have much in the way of why the Prince was being summoned, which to me suggests there isn't much in it that may be of use. It might be dangerous not to know the details in the letter but there's too much risk of going in far too blind with such a limiting question and so many implications that the letter was vague to begin with. It's put me solidly in a place of feeling like 3 is by far the best response.

VampirVee

Gang we basically already know whats in the letter, literally any other option would be smarter.

Fisher
>>151972796

Even if he’s not telling us something about the letter though, that’s not going to give us useful information for how to accurately impersonate Warin!

Scottie
>>151962463

That's my point. We thought we could rely on Arthur's knowledge of English history but we can't

Nicky
>>151985503

2 is a way of opening up questioning into personal information he would expect to be known / expect to share / plan to keep secret as well as into behaviors that would be expected and suspicious

Kass

I’m begging for the letter voters to flip to option #3

Layali

I'm picking 3, bc A) we assumed Arthur & co. went back in time - was our assumption wrong, considering the massive changes to historical events? B) Does Scratch have something to do with these changes, considering she supposedly went back before us, and was even expecting us? Option 3 will hopefully segue into more questions about the massive change, and the trio discussing it - or at least planting seeds of suspicion in Arthur's mind. From another perspective, you can say that if all choices provide benefit to the gang, the third choice provides the most immediate + bigger scope of benefit. I say this because there are many more ways for Arthur the time traveller to spark suspicion on account of his weird behaviour, than Warin the unknown friendless man sparking suspicion on account of him being Out of Character - since no one should know him very strongly, and even if someone popped up who knew him before - that's still 1 person who could find something odd VS everyone knowing this English lord is acting non-english and non-lordy. Also - even if we ask about Warin's intended approach or the letter because we want to know how to pretend to be Warin - we're not going to be able in a short chat know everything about Warren that would make us completely in character - Yorrick might tell us about his eating and toilet habits and his world view, and then someone pops up and goes Warin! How goes your summer in Glendyrmere?? Come ride a horse with me. ALSO #2 - if Scratch went back in time and did anything other than sit pretty + messed with the castle folk, the people at the castle might be more on the lookout for 'suspicious entity' or 'time traveller' than 'Warin being a little off'. Lastly, this is a historical era that has feudalism and issues and a different country invading England, so one of our bigger concerns might have to be not making anyone notice us as a political threat. Don't want to hold the teacup in a way that's too englishy and not French enough, and give off a message that we're against the 'True King'. There's signs of political tension with the way even Yorrick is suddenly devoted in his phrasing to the 'True king who united us all, thank god'.

Layali
>>152026708

Unrelated note: If Scratch is involved in any of this, then boy am I glad the choice to pretend being ignorant won out. Even when she wanted to pluck out the corpse's eyes she held back - held back from destroying a tool that would leave the trio unobserved to possibly discuss her! Imagine if she had given up the farce at the time and changed her form - we'd never have made the Hand of Malevolence. So even now as we enter the castle, I'm hoping our continued act makes her more hesitant to act out against us, or to even leave us alone and unobserved and head off to scheme with someone at the castle - she might be more wary of ruining her disguise now she's had a close call with the hand of malevolence. Even if she has nothing to do with the castle, if we confronted her and then went on to enter the castle, she'd be in a position to threaten us with exposure and might start demanding things of us - or if her end goal is to get us held up, she could just straight out take on the form of a person, walk through the front doors and go - this man! traitor to the king! - or scare them off from Arthur in any other way that could get Arthur a) imprisoned and out of her way till she needs him b) just killed if she doesn't need him. Esp. considering the Witch mentioned the castle folk worshipped the old gods, she might pretend to be one (or actually be one) and lean on that if she isn't bothering to hide from us any longer.

Anna Scribbles

Hello! This is my first time contributing something here. (Please be kind. All of you are very articulate and I'm very nervous.) I do believe the best option here is 3. As previously stated we already know what was in the letter via Yorick: An invitation without any details as to why, so I doubt asking for further information there will help us. As for the second option, it might tell us something about the prince himself (how someone approaches an unknown situation can be very telling about what kind of person they are), but wouldn't necessarily give us more information on WHAT is happening or WHY. This is why I'm going to choose the 3rd option. We need more context of Where and When we are and how the world works here. If we truly are as far back in time as it seems, then a king reigning that long is VERY suspicious and I'd wager there was some magic/otherworldly influence involved. The average lifespan back then was, what, 40 at the VERY outside? I think Yorick mentioned that the king had been ON THE THRONE for about 50 years? Not to mention "politics" could also include more cultural information like "state-enforced worship of this god only" so I don't think it should be ruled out (especially with the habit the boys have of saying "jesus christ"). I look forward to seeing how this turns out with all of you.

Layali
>>152135862

<… "state-enforced worship of this god only" so I don't think it should be ruled out (especially with the habit the boys have of saying "jesus christ"). > Good catch! The ‘Jesus Christ’s might end up the antagonist of this arc haha