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PETER!!!!! It's been waaaay too long! His lil face when Liv doesn't recognise him broke me BUT he's back and that's the main thing! Now we can work on those memories asap!!! I enjoyed the Cameron scenes in this one too, another child of the trials and seeing this version of Walter coming to terms with his past actions. I have a feeling ep 5 will be a banger though! I'm just so relieved to see Peter back with the squad...I hope he can convince them, he is who he says he is!

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Katie

Hi Dakara. I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this to you yet, but I would recommend that you don't watch 4x19 until you finish season 4. When I did a rewatch last year after not watching for a decade, my husband recommended this and I ignored his advice and then it ruined the season finale for me. I don't want to say much more cause I don't want to give anything away but the episode spoils a lot of the ending. So I'd recommend you skip 4x19 and then watch it after the season 4 finale and before starting season 5 🙂 Great episode and reaction as always.

Mirko Paskota

Dakara, I made 2 recommendations to you, by DM, when you were starting Fringe (ep 2.11 and ep 4.19); you asked me to remind you closer to the time for each of those... Ep. 2.11 (watched after 1.16) is behind us, and here Katie has beaten me to the 4.19 recommendation! I VERY STRONGLY support Katie's recommendation!

Mirko Paskota

Dakara, as always - an excellent post-episode discussion. Keep them coming, please! And full marks for following your gut/instinct right from the start of the ep ("this is Peter, right?!"). Yes, it was!!

Shirlene Wright

Hi Dakara, Just did a lil 3 episode Fringe Binge. I love the closeness between Olivia and Walter. I think there was some healing on both sides for Walter & Cameron. AND SPEAKING OF CAMERON! CHADWICK BOSEMAN!! I faught tears. RIP. It was wonderful to see him in something I had not seen before. Also, PETER IS BACK Y'ALL!

christian chirico

Absolutely 100% agree with this comment, there are going to be some people that are going to argue against it to “preserve the purity of the original release schedule” but like Katie mentioned it really impacts the quality the season 4 finale in a negative way if you watch ep 19 in airing order and on the other end it makes (imo) the beginning of season 5 much much better by watching that episode right before it, everything just flows waaaay better with that one change. I have already watched another reactor that was convinced by people in the comments to watch the episodes in order and she regretted it after so Dak i hope you take this suggestion to heart because it will make your experience drastically better.

christian chirico

Guess who’s back? Back again. It was so hard talking about season 4 without spoiling Peter’s return because while it is something that can easily guess will happen and you called it as soon as the energy ball started appearing at the beginning of the ep there was still a small chance that they wouldn’t bring him back, but now he’s here! More importantly he knows a lot more than the others do, we don’t know to what extent yet, but based on how he was speaking/looking to Olivia it’s not implausible to think that this is the the very same Peter that disappeared moments before from the machine room, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves because the show will soon answer those questions , also i couldn’t agree more with you on the fact that now the Peter is back the show feels truly whole again even considering his difficult path ahead, he’s truly the glue that holds the show together for me. Many new and very interesting revelations coming in this episode, most interesting to me are the ones regarding the cortexiphan trials which happened in a very different way in this timeline, for starters it seems that Olivia actually managed to escape them because Peter wasn’t there to find her in the tulip field so she wasn’t experimented as long as in the og timeline, also it seems that they have had little to no contact with the other subjects in the present based on what Olivia was telling Mark so all of the stuff with Nick Lane and the others probably didn’t happen which makes sense because without Peter going back to the other side with Walternate there would have been no need for Olivia to cross over and enlist their help, in general it seems that the whole cortexiphan trials ordeal has yet to be fully explored in this timeline with Astrid not even knowing that much about it and asking Olivia to explain. The “new” version of the Walter and Olivia relationship takes the center stage in this episode and i have been waiting to talk about it because it’s one of my favourite things of the new timeline, they are so much more connected because of the absence of Peter and while she hasn’t been able to replace him fully in the role of Walter’s guardian/tether to reality she seems to be much more patient and understanding with him and a less frustrated in general thanks to them being closer, Walter in general in this episode (like the rest of this season) once again breaks my heart but at least starts to make a few steps forward by getting out of the lab. Another major change that gets teased is the very different relationship between Olivia and Nina, but i really don’t wanna touch on that yet, there will be plenty of time later on and i can’t wait to discuss it. Peter re-emerging from Raiden Lake with the Observer looking over will never cease to give me goosebumps… And now the “Peter’s return arc” finally starts and i can’t wait for your reactions Dak!! P.S. RIP Chadwick.

Katie

I'm really glad others are agreeing with me re the watch order. It really doesn't make sense to watch in airing order. Do you remember the name of the reactor you're refering to?

christian chirico

Hi, yeah the reactor i was referring to was Carmen Young, i don’t remember if she explicitly said at the time that she regretted it (it’s been quite a while since i last saw it) but i do remember her reaction to the finale being visibly diminished/affected by the fact that she had watched the episodes in order. I remember at the time when she put it to a vote and the og airing order won by a only a few votes i got sooo mad because of the people in the comments going on and on about “preserving the original experience” when it’s clear that ep 19 was done that way for very specific reasons that had nothing to do with the rest of the season and don’t matter now that the show has ended, anyway it’s getting harder and harder to talk about this without spoiling anything so l’ll leave at that for now.

Katie

Yeah, I thought you were referring to Carmen Young. I remember when that vote happened. I was really mad too. It makes absolutely no sense to watch in order just to 'preserve the original experience'. I remember that anticlimactic feeling watching the finale after 4x19.

Neumann

2:30 fun(?) fact, lobotomy spikes did, in fact, go through the eye socket on the very inside edge, basically pushing the eye to the side a bit. people forget that eye sockets are basically just open holes directly to the brain (the optic canal) with very little bone separating the eye from the brain (on the outside edges.) still need the hammer, though, to help break through what thin bone IS there. if you ever DO get around to trying a root beer float, just remember that the vanilla ice cream goes first and the root beer gets poured on top of it so they start mixing immediately. don't wanna try and plop a scoop of ice cream into a glass full of root beer for a couple reasons tbh lol. also, root beer's not for everyone and that's totally fair, but root beer flavored candies are usually the best for some reason HOLY SHIT IT'S CHADWICK BOSEMAN. it feels wrong to hear him without the wakandan accent despite having seen him in other stuff it's been absolutely wonderful seeing all the character interactions between olivia, walter, astrid, and lincoln in this new timeline but omg peter is back and it's so exciting but so anxiety inducing because walter is Not Well and his "son" is suddenly back from the dead and olivia doesn't consciously remember him so peter may be back but his life is NOT. my boy's got an uphill battle. i CANNOT wait! hey, thanks for choosing my comment! you're not trash at spotting the observer, you spot him a normal amount of times tbh lol. i only saw that half second glimpse because i caught the silhouette of his hat in the backlit doorway

Winifred Jordan

A little late to the conversation but I totally agree that 4-19 should be the season finale of season 4. I was part of Carmen’s vote and remember that she went with the vote count and she regretted it. Just my two cents!

El

4x19 is 4x19 and should be watched in the normal order. This isn't like 2x11 which actually WAS a season 1 episode. I strongly recommend that Dakara finish watching S4 in the normal airing order. It won't ruin anything.

Katie

But it ruined the season 4 finale for me as I explained above. There's absolutely no benefit to watching in airing order as it's a completely separate story to the rest of season 4. Watching 2x11 in airing order is far less detrimental than watching 4x19 in airing order. In 2x11's case it's a bit confusing because of one scene, but in the case of 4x19 it's got a ton of spoilers in it