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DREAMS is up! Oneirology discussion thread! (Patreon)

Published:
2023-01-04 02:52:27
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2026-06

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Okay so the episode just published 30 seconds ago so chances are you don't have thoughts yet, but when you do... feel free to discuss below.

This Part 1 covers so much fun neurobiology (two words I don't usually smack together) and then Part 2 is so far two uncut hours of your questions and his answers, so stay tuned for that. 

I hope you enjoy it and that 2023 is off to a good start. My resolution is earlier bedtimes, personally. 

Okay, enjoy your journey to Dreamland! Aaaah! 

Groggily, 

Popsward VonPodcast

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Oneirology (DREAMS) with Dr. G. William Domhoff - alie ward

WHY do we dream? What do dreams mean? What parts of our brain are working after-hours? We sought out UC Santa Cruz researcher and professor Dr. G. William Domhoff, a world expert on the topic, for this dream-come-true episode. Learn about historical dream research, dream researchers collect dream re

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Lorenzo Cormier

Hello, everyone. I know this episode came out a little while ago (it was AMAZING), but wanted to add to the discussion. On the podcast, it was mentioned that "lucid dreaming" isn't really a thing and that we don't really have control of our dreams. That being said, where would the ability to wake up from uncomfortable dreams play into that? Over the recent few years, I have found myself more consistently able to force myself awake during bad dreams or simply dreams I don't like. I guess this isn't me controlling them just stopping them, but still. Anyone else have similar experiences?

Anton Kleynscheldt

Hi. I'm super late to the conversation, but I just listened to these two episodes and couldn't comment earlier (obviously). I have ASD and used to have dreams I couldn't distinguish from reality afterwards. This was very upsetting and I decided to stop remembering my dreams, which I rarely do these days. On the other hand, I dissociate while awake, so I think these two even out :D

Jeanette-o-saur

My understanding is that lucid dreaming is a thing. It's the hype around it that's not legit. Lucid dreaming seems to go with more disrupted sleep and a high vigilance state while sleeping. This kinda makes sense to me because I had lucid dreams as a kid when I tried to focus my pre-sleep brain to avoid having nightmares. It also stands to reason that being able to wake yourself up means you were not as deeply asleep.

Jeanette-o-saur

I'm unreasonably disappointed that there isn't a real difference in dreaming for ADHD brains. My dad always jokes that we dream in technicolor because the neurodivergents in our fam have such bizzaro dreams. I'm going to hold tight to a better imagination conviction to make me feel better while I acknowledge our disrupted sleep. Sigh.

Jim Ottaviani

Just catching up on this episode, which as expected I enjoyed. Thanks! One thing that stuck out, and stuck in my craw, though, was the dismissal of dreaming in dogs…and presumably other animals. There seems to be plenty of evidence that they do dream (see e.g. https://www.sciencefocus.com/nature/what-do-dogs-dream-about/ ), and dismissing what we observe in our pets as nothing more than "activation" because the animals can't tell us what they dream about is taking the scientific method and mindset to an absurd extreme. (For instance, we accept that dreams happen in people based on brain activation, even when those people can't report on or remember them.)

Andrea

Loved this! He was a delightful guest and I learned so much.

Jaclyn and her cat Phil

Oooh I have no thoughts (yet) other than I’m very excited for this one!!

Zed Shirogane

I’ll come back to this question and delete it if it was talked already in part one, but: Why do you often forget about your dreams when you wake up? Like if I don’t write down what happened within the first minute it’s just gone for good, and most of the time I only remember bits and pieces of dreams when I can write things down. It just, poof: gone.

Average_pi

I'm so excited for this one and to explain to my friend about her weird dreams

Alie Ward

We cover that in depth in this part!

Zed Shirogane

Perfect! I look forward to hearing it in the car to work. It confuses me so much XD

Karla Maria Pires

Did you have a chance to discuss recurring nightmares?

Emily Krieger

ooooooo congratulations!!!! i'm excited to listen, i know this one has been a dream of yours for a while aaaaaayyyyyyy oooooooooo lol but seriously thanks for this!

Alie Ward

We'll go over it more in Part 2, but we do talk about how some people's dreams are more weighted to be negative, based on some neurobiology and life circumstances!

Charlie

I can't wait for the questions next week. This guys mind makes me want to be his friend and its really interesting that he mentions the DMN, it's something that blows my mind the more I learn about it. Awesome episode and what a legend!

Erin Bridges

Disappointed in myself I missed the call for questions!! I realised recently that more than half of my dreams take place in one of only a few locations, none of which exist, but have existed in my dreams since childhood.

jennyxxdreadful

I just got a dream interpretation book for Christmas, I've always had WILD ass dreams my entire life...I can't wait to listen!

Elizabeth Carson

This is a very cool and informative episode. I’ve been practicing dream interpretation for a decade and I found it interesting that he doesn’t think dreams have metaphors or symbols just because that part of the brain is inactive, but imo that explains why the metaphors in dreams are so goofy and earnest; the dreaming brain doesn’t understand how metaphors work so it remembers them literally. The literal interpretation of every metaphor is the root of it, and will be there when the metaphorical understanding is not, but your subconscious has already attached it to your experiences while awake. That’s what I’ve gathered from my experience interpreting my dreams and other people’s dreams anyway. I tell people when I analyze their dreams that dreams are a meme that your brain has made for you, but not the part of your brain that has a sense of humor. Now I know that that’s because it doesn’t understand metaphor!

Quincey Robisheaux

Here's a fun fact, in Malaysia and a lot of SE Asia, they believe that those spiritual dreams, ones where you meet a dead loved one but recognize them as alive, it's believed that the spirit actually came back to speak with you.

Nathan-Andrew

Ah, PopsWard, the “alive again” dream discussion hit me pretty hard, too. I get it, too! Not long after my brother’s death, I also had the most intensely realistic dream. In it, I had the opportunity to tell him all the things I wish I had said when he was alive. And the dream made me feel like I actually did tell him. It was a very healing, and necessary experience. I hope your dream about your dad was similarly helpful for you.

Connie Ziegler

I had very vivid nightmare when I was 5 years old. Everyone I knew got into a red spaceship to go to Mars. The rocket exploded on take off and everyone I knew was burned alive. I'm not sure but I think it may have been influenced by a watching a burning building one night on the way home. No one was hurt in that fire = but the whole fire issue was what disturbed me. It was over 60 years ago and it is still rather vivid for me.

britni

I felt seen after hearing about adhd and nightmares, I have nightmares constantly and this also motivates me to work on focusing and imagining the good!

Mie [me-ay]

ALIE!!! I FOUND AN OLOGY THAT I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO COVER (but no pressure) ITS KINDA SPOOKY SO MAYBE SAVE IT FOR THE FALL? IDK IT’S YOUR SHOW DO WHATEVER YOU WANT!! anyway it’s HAUNTOLOGY and i think it would be so fun

Abby Grieb

Loved this episode and can’t wait for part 2! I have had an extremely real-feeling “alive again” dream about my old family dog. She walked into the living room of my childhood home and I acknowledged in the dream that she was back! I woke up in tears because it was so special and moving. I didn’t know that was such a common thing!

Doug Koekkoek

Alie, love the podcast. But I am still unsure how to get notified ahead of time so I can ask questions ahead of time. Can you help a newbie out?

Alie Ward

He sent me a text yesterday saying he loved the episode. What a great dude

Alie Ward

Oooooooooh, that's fascinating! You should submit some to Dreambank.net!

Alie Ward

He says those books can be fun but things that appear in dreams have more to say about what's on your mind and in your life!

Alie Ward

My dreams can be SO transparent. Like, ridiculously.

Alie Ward

I know my mostly Catholic family feels the same way, and I've had so many dreams I've seen my dad. It always feels like we got a good hangout session. Maybe one day, we'll discover different dimensions and it turns out I DID go bowling with my dad from the beyond.

Alie Ward

I'm so sorry you lost your brother, but glad you got that dream. I have so many dreams about my dad. But one nutty thing I haven't talked much about was doing a therapeutic psilocybin dose a few weeks after his death, which lead to a lot of closure for me. I hope to do an episode with Dr. Charles Grobb at UCLA and a bonus on my own experience.

Alie Ward

Wow! That must have been so scary -- I'm sure that fire imprinted on you so deeply! And I hope Elon wasn't driving the rocket...

Alie Ward

No waaaaay! What's it about? Are there any legit papers on it?

Alie Ward

DOUG!! So glad you're here! I will put up a post that says "Call for Questions: [name of ology]" a few days before I do the interview, and it will show up in your email just like this post did! The reason you haven't seen any yet is because in October-Nov I did a BOATLOAD of interviews anticipating that they'd be hard to schedule over the holidays. But I will likely be doing more interviews in a few weeks. We just happen to have 6-7 banked right now we're editing! any -ologies you want to hear about?

Alie Ward

if only she had one of those talking dog buttons that said "i'm back bitch" 💖

Doug Koekkoek

As a newly diagnosed Fibromyalgia-haver, I would love one on Fibromyalgiology or whatever that is. Do you have a comprehensive list of all the ologies you have done so I don’t suggest a repeat? Lastly, can I just recommend the smartest person I know and you can see what fits?

Lizzy Martinez

I have listened to it a few times and am so happy you talked about seeing loved ones and pets who have passed in our dreams. That warmed my heart sooo much. I see my mom, who I lost in 2017 to ALS, and my childhood pets from time to time in my dreams. Something pretty cool that is reoccurring for my dreams with my mom is that I am visiting her at a ski resort where she's skiing all the time now. She loved to ski :).

Kaitlin J

Please please do. I had a friend take her life and have been struggling with the grief for years at this point and am fascinated with the ways we can find closure, healing and a continuation of the relationship after they are gone. When you mentioned your psilocybin experience, I was immediately intrigued as regular methods just haven’t cut the feeling for me.

Alie Ward

Sure! And we do talk about fibro and other chronic conditions in the Dolorology (pain) episode with Dr. Rachel Zoffness in case you haven't heard that one 💖

Mae Moon

Hey! Just became a patron too, I would love an episode specifically on Autism since you've already done one on ADHD (And I'm autistic so I'd love one more tailored to my specific neurodiversity)

Susan G

I have dreams sometimes about meeting my heart cats who have passed away, but unfortunately they are rarely beautiful. And mostly revolve around me trying not to lose or let go of them in various stressful situations. I hope one day I can have those lovely visiting dreams.

Joy Kotheimer

As a vivid dream (ohh daaang I guess I don’t sleep well oops 🙃) Looove this episode! Can’t wait for part 2- so many good and interesting questions! 🤗

Amy Copler

I'm excited for part two! Since it's the new year, I'm going to jot down a quick synopsis of my dreams (if I remember them)/who was in the dream, so I can reflect back at the end of the year to see what/who I dreamed about the most. I think it'll be fun!

Charlie

What time is it over there gosh dang it! 😂😭 I can't wait for part twooooooo 😴🥰😳

Melissa

I taught myself how to French braid my own hair in a dream. I'd been trying to do it for weeks and couldn't get my fingers to work right because everything was reversed. I had given up, and then one night I had a dream I could do it. I woke up, sat up in bed, reached behind my head and did it flawlessly in one try.

fullmetalknee

WAIT If dreaming develops over time in kids, why does my 2 year old nephew get night terrors?? (His mom had them starting that young and for years after that including when she opened a window in her sleep and jumped out breaking her arm.) He screams in his sleep and sometimes talks a little and he can't wake up. The last one I witnessed it took them 10 minutes to get him consicously awake and he was crying and telling us how scared he was. And what can we do to wake him up quicker?? Do we treat it like hypnosis and guide him in his dream? Shine green light in his face?

Emily Krieger

i think my fave thing i learned from this ology is that REM sleep is related to temperature regulation. wuuuuuuuuut?!!!! so cool! thanks for another wonderful ep

Allie

I loved these episodes so much I had to subscribe to the Patreon so I could tell you I did. Professor Domhoff was such a joy and I have excitedly shared little tidbits of takeaways from this with my family so many times. Thanks Alie!!

Eliza Miller

Is there a way to email Professor Domhoff? I'm really convinced I have an alternate reality when I dream, and he almost confirmed the possibility. However he said the difference is our dreams restart every night... but my continue. I have a continuation of a dream. I need more answers.