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Napoleon's Marshals Part 2 early access! (Patreon)

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EDIT: link to Napoleon's Marshals Part 2 on Youtube. 

Dear Patrons, 

I'm very pleased to present Napoleon's Marshals Part 2 - ad-free early access exclusively for Patreon supporters!

This episode covers 5 marshals, but in my opinion these are 3 or 4 of the most interesting (and controversial) of all, so I go into a fair amount of biographical detail, with many anecdotes and details from Revolutionary and Napoleonic history along the way. 

I'm sure not all of you will agree with my rankings, so I look forward to your views and feedback! (please keep the rankings between ourselves until the video goes live on YouTube next week.)

Typos for Merch™ is in effect! First Patron to spot an error will get any item from the shop as a thank you from me. It's been a bit of a scramble to get this mammoth episode ready in time, so I'm sure there are a few in there... (edit: 'natural casuses' does not count, I just spotted it!)

Thank you all again for your amazing support. I'll be back next week with the YouTube link and more updates. 

Toby

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Comments

Richard Hsu

WHOOOOOOO here it is bois! several weeks of waiting!

Sander Lõhmus

When Bernadotte is introduced, there is info in the background: "Natural casuses" is written there. I guess it is meant "Natural causes"... When other Marshals are introduced, Augereau has same typo. After that, it seems to be fine :) (still watching)

EpicHistoryTV

Thanks Sander! This is one I'd spotted after upload (see post) so unfortunately does not qualify for merch. Good attention to detail though.

Trevor Yau

Wow I thought Bernadotte would be top 10 for sure. What a surprise!

Paul Atkins

So looking forward to this!! Cant wait to watch it 30 times!! LOL

Rodger Murphy

Oh happy day! Can't wait for the bravest of the brave Marshall Ney but I have a feeling the best for last so probably not this video. Thank you EpicHistory....my day just got brighter

EpicHistoryTV

Interesting! I think some hardcore Napoleon fans would like him in the bottom 6! Don't forget the rankings are based on their achievements as Marshals. Bernadotte was certainly a talented commander, but I'd argue his greatest accomplishments were both before and after his time as a Marshal.

Sander Lõhmus

No problem! I was so eager to start watching that I did not read the full intro. According to my local time, it is quite late, still, I did not want to prolong another potential masterpiece. Great job! This is the only Patreon channel I have joined and I am happy that I somehow made it to Your Youtube channel – the story, music, art – it is superb. Keep it up!

Chirag

I love the artwork in between shots of the battles. Kudos on another brilliant video!

Rick Reactions

Another brilliantly put together video. And as always, presenting a fair portrait of each marshal, even when their actions have been controversial. That is something that is much appreciated by a fellow student of history. Reality never tends to be as simple as it’s sometimes portrayed, especially when it comes to historical figures and events.

Gavin Gates

Great work again! The only one that surprised me was Augereau but as you said this ranking is for their achievements as a marshal and not years prior. Plus he did love to loot

IGLOO

Wow the level of detail in this is amazing!!! cant wait for the next part.

Stuart Carver

Hey I got 3 of the 5 marshals though not with the clues you mentioned, what were they? Thought Mormont and Bernadotte might sneak into the top half. I’m scouring the video for errors but I have to get up in 4 hours so I don’t think I’m gonna find any. Does this mean there will be 4 parts, 8 in the next then the final 5? Wasn’t Mortier in the French Center not left wing at Friedland I’m sure you say that in that video saying he “arrived to reinforce the French Center”?Great work as always.

Joseph Dell

Another great video Toby! Always makes my day when I get a patreon notification! Awesome video!

Wenwei Jiang

Every second of this video was absolutely worth it ❤️️ I loved all the nuanced details about the marshals discussed in this episode; they're such a great complement to the rest of the Napoleonic Wars series, with all the extra depth and context. The part on Bernadotte definitely felt quite balanced, and was very well done! (I initially was so sure that he'd be ranked in the bottom few, but now I'm convinced that he's actually reasonably competent hahaha)

Ali Alduaij

Nice video and good combination of art & music. I also like the voice and style of the narrator Charles Nove. Well done

Crown Prince Sebastian Johan of Ponte Corvo

Super well done! I felt that section on Bernadotte was really well handled. It was very fair and I am so glad that some of Marbot's "memories" were not included. As Toby said above, Bernadotte's best work was before and after Napoleon, and though one can make an argument that Bernadotte could have been ranked higher, I think the ranking and the description of his legacy were very well done! He and Murat are easily the most fascinating of the Marshals and their legacies are immense not only in France, but the nations and peoples they ruled. Augereau is someone I think you did well. He is a guy that you can see, as with the other Marshals, by 1810 they yearned for peace and to enjoy the fruits of their labors. And I think yes, he, along with Ney and Murat, had become somewhat soft by 1812 into 1813.

Trevor Yau

I see! I just figured having bested Oudinot and Ney would have him higher than those two! I read Davout hated bernadotte and pleaded Napoleon to face his army himself instead of being garrisoned in Hamburg. Now that wouldve been an epic rivalry battle

Crown Prince Sebastian Johan of Ponte Corvo

Not just reasonably competent, as Crown Prince of Sweden he literally saved that country from oblivion. It was about to be partitioned by its rivals. In a mere three years of rule Sweden went from broke and defeated to economically sound, amongst the victors of the war and doubled in size thanks to Bernadotte's considerable military and diplomatic skills. He outfought his former comrades at GrossBieren and Dennewitz and outmaneuvered the likes of Metternich, Tallyrand and Hardenberg at the bargaining table. He may have been a mediocre Marshal, but he was a gifted statesman and king who laid the foundation for Sweden's success.

Wenwei Jiang

That's really interesting stuff! I knew nothing about what things were like for Sweden at the time, so thank you for sharing all this ^_^

Wenwei Jiang

At 17:44 (intro to Mortier), good ol' commander of the Guard Cavalry Bessières has his name misspelt as "Bèssieres" (the pronunciation wouldn't make sense with the wrong accent)

Wenwei Jiang

Upon a closer look, it seems that at 4:00 (map of Austerlitz) Bessières also has the wrong spelling of "Bessiéres", but that one is so inconspicuous it probably doesn't matter.

Philip Liu

Just strolling on Patreon and what a pleasant surprise !!!

EpicHistoryTV

Thank you! And absolutely - the one thing I find to be invariably true about history, is that it's more complicated than you first thought!

EpicHistoryTV

Thanks Stuart. The clues were the picture of French troops in the Tyrol, that could give you Lefebvre, and a pair of fencers, that could give you Augereau, but both very difficult! Mortier was effectively the centre-left of the French position at Friedland, so I'm not too fussy about which term is used - after all, the map does the talking!

EpicHistoryTV

Thank you Jiang! Very glad you enjoyed the details, I was a bit worried this episode might be TOO in-depth, so great to hear your feedback.

EpicHistoryTV

Thank you Ali! Yes Charles did a great job on this one, as ever.

EpicHistoryTV

Thank you! I know how well informed you are about this topic so very pleased you enjoyed the video. It's been a very interesting process making these videos, I've learned a great deal about the Marshals and Napoleon himself - when the Emperor is seen from the perspective of those who served under him, it's not always such a flattering portrait!

EpicHistoryTV

Thanks Sander! It's great to have your support, very glad you're enjoying the work.

Bence Fehér

Also, Pontecorvo has the wrong spelling. I think it says Portecorvo in the video.

EpicHistoryTV

Thank you both! Good spotting! Jiang you win this month's Typos for Merch™ prize! I will message you regarding delivery.

Crown Prince Sebastian Johan of Ponte Corvo

True, but when he defeated Oudinot and Ney, Bernadotte was no longer a Marshal so it would not count. Nor would his smashing of the Danish Army in two weeks, or his more or less conquest of Norway in a few weeks. Fun fact: Bernadotte, as Marshal and later King, did most of his work from bed using a portable desk. Napoleon also did the same thing. Smart men know there is little reason to get out of bed when there is little reason to do so!

Crown Prince Sebastian Johan of Ponte Corvo

Your last point is definitely true. One realizes he was actually quite a bully. He even treated Davout and Lannes like shit when it suited him, or when he was in one of his moods; though Lannes would push right back at him and they would bicker like a married couple. Napoleon's behavior toward Bernadotte in particular was one of always cutting down a rival; indeed, it is why Jena has become such a big thing... And it turns out humoring Sergeant Pretty Legs might have actually saved Napoleon in 1813. Instead Napoleon enjoyed turning the screws on Sweden only for it to backfire badly.

Rebellican

Great work absolutely loved every second as an aspiring fantasy writer, while what I write is obviously fiction as a history major most of my work is grounded and uses history as a reference for world building and your work has helped inspire me every inch of the way. I’ve always been hesitant of supporting people on Patreon but I am proud to say you guys deserve it for all the hard work you’ve toiled throughout the years watching your development from the Waterloo video all the way through Alexander the Great and now Napoleon.

Stuart Carver

No definitely not easy clues and didn’t get them. Haha that’s fine I’m just clutching at straws trying to find something to get some free mech but I think it’s more than a much for me because I can’t yet find anything.

AnthonyBlessed

I cannot say that the criticism of Marmont or Mortier by Napoleon was wholly fair. Not least because both Marshals fought with skill, determination, honor, bravery, and tenacity, but also because Napoleon didn't exactly inspire Marmont to be loyal to him. After hearing Macdonald's recollection of the state of the army in 1814 outside Paris, its likely we would have seen another example such as when Ney hurled his men at 60,000 Russians, and were mowed down. Only, worse, due to the demorilization of the army at the time, and the arguably worse shape the army was in (Cavalry could go no further, men who were famished, many leaving to go to their homes with discouragement, lack of ammunition for no more than one skirmish, etc.). Marmont surely saved lives by what he did, and I respect his decision, at this point, to surrender to the allies. No less, Mortier also fought with skill, honor, bravery, and courage, inspiring his men, even in the worst of circumstances. Do I consider Mortier weak, or feeble, no. Granted I don't know the man from Adam, at least not personally, but nevertheless I would hug the man for being an inspiration to his soldiers, not being a coward, and being devoted to his men. Marmont seemed to be hindered by impatience, which caused him to err multiple times, especially at Salamanca. Nevertheless, Marmont was a brave and able soldier, and in no wise a coward. Surely an inspiration to his men. By the grace of God.

Walter C

Hi Toby, This was another amazing video!! Question for you: (And this does kind of get into conspriacy theory but want to ask....) With Bernadotte really great record before 1806 and then some seemlingly real bone head mistakes, (also include him not supporting Napolean to the throne). Have you read or heard any possibilities of British agents working with Bernadotte and then being 'rewarded" by being brought into the Swedish line of succession?

Abdulrahman Al-hadi

have you considered making a videos about Marengo and early Italian campaign for Bonaparte. I think there will be a valuable content which helps to understand the rise of the Napoleone.

Franco lynn

I love this series too much. I couldnt wait until Tuesday for this video to be released on Youtube, so I subscribed. Fabulous work as always.

Gavin Anand Saint Just Brown

First class as always Toby! Lefebvre was certainly the most admirable profile described here for me. When the time comes for you to profile Napoleon's enemies, please don't forget John Moore.

A.G

Another great video 👍

EpicHistoryTV

Thanks Gavin! Yes Lefebvre is an impressive character. Interesting about Moore - some British historians are quite harsh on his conduct in 1808, arguing that the army should not have been in that desperate position in the first place! A heroic death in battle possibly spared him a court martial, and turned him into a saint. That's the argument anyway, I remain on the fence until a lot more detailed reading.

EpicHistoryTV

Yes I have, I think there's a lot of desire to see a series on the Italian campaigns. We will get there!

EpicHistoryTV

Thank you Walt! No, I have not heard this theory before, and I think it can be speedily dismissed. Many problems with it, not least that the Swedish throne was not remotely in the power of British agents to give as a reward. Bernadotte's record as a Marshal was not terrible, and nothing close to treasonably bad. For example his pursuit of the Prussians in 1806 was exemplary, and in 1809 he very effectively closed the trap on the British at Walcheren. The problem was the personality clash with Napoleon, which I think you can say brought out the worst in both of them.

EpicHistoryTV

I agree, Napoleon was rather unfair to Mortier, but I think he was speaking in quite a technical sense, about his ability as a general, when he called him 'feeble'. Napoleon would not have asked him to return to lead the Young Guard in 1815 if he did not have high regard for his courage and character.

EpicHistoryTV

Thanks rebelican! Great to have your support, and very pleased to hear the videos have been useful in your writing.

Gavin Anand Saint Just Brown

From what I've heard he was instrumental in setting out reforms which brought at least some level of meritocracy to the British Army.

Walter C

Got it! Makes sense. Thanks!

Marcos Moguel

Ok I just laid down to get ready and watch my favorite history channel so here we go :')

Mike

Yes please! I was about to post this same request. We need more Napoleon! Keep up the amazing work!

AnthonyBlessed

Hmmm, perhaps so. Maybe he became more feeble in his old age, or perhaps Napoleon got the wrong impression of him later in his career. However, what do you say of Marmont? Surely one cannot blame him for doing, arguably, what he must of thought he had to do in order to stop Napoleon from destroying the army. Surely Marmont must not have been sure of what Napoleon would actually do, and worked instead to insure that the army could not be destroyed. Napoleon may have considered this to be betrayal, yet I can't say Napoleon didn't make his own problem concerning Marmont. Plus I don't think the treatment Marmont recieved because he didn't support Napoleon in 1815 was fair either. A general, who had a pretty successful and eventful career as a general (minus Salamanca), was labeled, reportedly, as the one who betrayed Napoleon. I'm sure Bonaparte loyalists may not have had very glowing things to say of him either. Undeserved, I would say. It would have been better for Napoleon to mend wounds between him and Marmont, as much as he could. If not for morality sake, he may have done so for friendship, and, at worse, only to draw back one of his best marshals to his cause.

EpicHistoryTV

I have some sympathy with Marmont's actions. Napoleon's plans for marching on Paris were delusional, and would have caused a lot of unnecessary deaths. Marmont acted on his own though, without consulting with other Marshals until it was too late - Marmont's actions then fatally undermined Napoleon's negotiating position. But as you will see from the video, I am very keen to put these actions in the context of a long and dedicated service to the French cause.

Michael Craig

I think Moore was quite unfortunate in that, between the death of Abercromby and the rise of Wellington, he was arguably Britain’s foremost General yet was only ever given the chance of independent command in when it was almost certainly destined for failure. Often a real failure of politicians to grasp the military situation. This was a brilliant video though, as always! Is it going to be a four part thing?

Mathew T

Upgraded my membership. I cannot express my satisfaction over these productions!

EpicHistoryTV

Thank you Mathew, very glad you're enjoying the series!

Bence Fehér

Could you please update the description with the music used in the video?

EpicHistoryTV

I've just added the theme names. What do you use this information for, out of interest?

Richard Fernandes

Hi Toby! Epic work as always! When the third video of Napoleon's Marshals will be out?

EpicHistoryTV

Thanks Richard! I expect to have the next part ready before end of October.

Sitraka Forler

Really good job ! (didn't saw the time fly !) Continuez ce travail de qualité !!! :D