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A Conversation With Defunctland (Patreon)

Published:
2022-12-17 17:20:47
Edited:
2022-12-28 11:14:38
Imported:
2026-06
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Kevin Perjurer of Defunctland and CJ The X go head to head on art.

Key contentious questions: Does CJ get to decide that their Youtube videos aren't their art? / Did Kevin insert too much of himself into his documentary?

Also discussing business, journalistic ethics, Jenny Nicholson, and Walt Disney. 

[This video contains spoilers for Defunctland season three and the documentary "Who Wrote The Disney Channel Theme?"]

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A Conversation With Defunctland

Kevin Perjurer of Defunctland and CJ The X go head to head on art. Key contentious questions: Does CJ get to decide that their Youtube videos aren't their art? / Did Kevin insert too much of himself into his documentary? Also discussing business, journalistic ethics, Jenny Nicholson, and Walt Disney. [This video contains spoilers for Defunctland season three and the documentary "Who Wrote The Disney Channel Theme?"] Disney Channel's Theme: A History Mystery: https://youtu.be/b_rjBWmc1iQ

Comments

mango

update: took me months to actually sit down and listen this because I don’t think I was in the headspace to properly take it all in but you two have given me so much to think about specifically in categorizing the things we make whether it be art, essays, documentaries, etc. etc. and how the lines blur

Hannah Hanashiro

My theory is that Walt Disney unnerved horses so much that causes them to kill their riders somehow

Sethzard

I'm sad that you're planning on stopping in a year or so as your videos are great but I look forward to seeing what's next. I'm curious to know, do you consider your albums (particularly Be Perfect or Die) your art?

mouse

i think something else really amazing about defunctland and works like his is that they prove that even small seemingly inconsequential creations are worth preserving!! which is so awesome an inspirational. reminds me of when historians unearth someone random person's journal or doodles or letters to their family and it reveals human Life and history in a big way. it says a lot about the artistry of, just, human life and how we've always thought and lived and even decades or hundreds of years or thousands of years we're still doing human life the ways we've always done. there have always been more of the random little people in the world than famous politicians or well known artists in big museums and just because most of humanity isn't talked about in school or whatever, doesn't mean that their lives aren't worth learning about and preserving. like, those four notes have existed in music theory for a long long time by the time that Alex Lasarenko wrote those four notes down, and it's kind of like a condensing of humanity's music history if that makes sense. I think maybe that's how human art has always been, which is why art like this documentary is so important and meaningful!! also random, the more i looked at the mouse ears the more i was like oh my god, that logo is the notes of the melody in a visual form lol crazy. anyway, this conversation was really incredible and insightful to hear from both of your perspectives, i love these conversations about art, thank you for posting it!!!

mango

WHAT

mango

my two favorite YouTubers I’ve maybe ever encountered talking together???? stop it this has to be a dream

AnRel

this was such a great interview, so many fascinating little insights. thank you!!

Dylan Kamalay

Oh man this was so great, but the last five minutes are too damn perfect.