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Speak Now (Taylor's Misunderstood Version) (Patreon)

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2023-07-14 16:12:35
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In this episode, The Snakes delve into the dark and stormy waters of Speak Now (Taylor's Version). Each re-recording is dutifully compared against the stolen counterpart and assessed on a scale from I Knew You Were Trouble to Tell Me Why. There's an elephant in the room of course, which prompts some debate: the lyric change in Better Than Revenge. Was it blasphemous, or no big deal? Opinions may vary, and in this episode, they certainly do. The episode is concluded with an analysis of the Vault Tracks & a scathing critique of the baseless, bland, and boring 'reviews' of this project, and a commentary on the media's response to the re-recordings at large.

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Speak Now (Taylor's Misunderstood Version)

Listen to this episode from Evolution of a Snake: The Taylor Swift Podcast on Spotify. In this episode, The Snakes delve into the dark and stormy waters of Speak Now (Taylor's Version). Each re-recording is dutifully compared against the stolen counterpart and assessed on a scale from I Knew You Were Trouble to Tell Me Why.

Comments

Cameron

Cracking open a bottle of wine for this and my eras tickets!!!

Autumn

Christmas in July

Pamela F

Finally!!!! 💜 can not WAIT to listen! Hope lizard is feeling better ❤️‍🩹

Vrishti Hasija

Madeline kill yourself for hating on castles crumbling but also rooting for you to be successful with your blog journetmy.

Ryan

laughing at madeline having long live lyrics on her ipod touch because i literally had “people throw rocks at things that shine” on mine lmfao

Holly Noel

Laughing my ass off at the hatred and vitriol Madeline threw at this entire podcast. She really said, "Why am I here talking about this tired-ass subject?"

Gracie Day

I actually think Sparks Fly TV slaps. But Dear John TV is a giant nothing burger. And the harmonies on it suck. Nathan Chapman’s were way better

Melon

I will say that there has been so much comparison between Misery Business and Better Than Revenge regarding the lyric change and I guess the big difference for me is that Paramore didn't re-record their album?

Melon

More Better Than Revenge thoughts: I think it's fair for Taylor, in this opportunity to reclaim this song as her own, to take the line that is referencing Camilla as solely selling herself as a whore to win Joe. Yes, Taylor leaves the lines that C is hotter and an actual actress and a flirt. But now, 33 yr old Taylor can own a song that feels more like 'valid' reaction to having your boyfriend dump you for someone hotter and boring without having to dwell on that time when she was 19 and she went absolutely psycho I do get the point that Taylor likes to re-write history and her efforts to make the Taylor brand often include her buffing out the less savory details of how she got where she is, but I think that in this case, taking a song that was pure slut shaming and trying to craft it into something less, well, shitty and marginally more graceful is valid and she killed it. Am I just missing the point?

Melon

I saw on my tl that you couldn't hear the smile in her voice in Ours TV vs OG, but I can hear the smile in her voice in Long Live TV and it fills my heart.

Gracie Day

Also, preach Madeline - I likewise don’t care for “I Can See You”

Naomi Alvarado

To Madeline’s point, I think that the MESSAGE of BTR is bad. However, the production and vocals are good. Because the song was written 13 years ago, it’s easy for me to disassociate the song from all the drama, hence, why I think it’s a good song.

Rosario Varela

I agree with everything except on The Story of Us!! I can’t even consider replacing the original version

Paigelinagina

Better Than Revenge TV is a conundrum. To me it feels almost disingenuous to change the mattress line but literally slay everything else about the song...to the point where it's better than the original. I love BTR. I love the production and the ad libs. It goes off. I think it's of its time and of its age and I DO think it's part of the canon. There's gotta be a reason it sounds so good. And I think it's because remembering what it's like to be a dumb teenager feeling betrayed by another girl is just a MOOD. We may have gotten more empathetic and thoughtful and more politically correct about vocalizing our feelings of betrayal. But the raw emotion demonstrated in BTR is still reachable to me as I reflect on what I was like as a dumb, internally misogynistic angsty teen. And after listening to this rerecord, I think Taylor remembers that feeling and maybe even still carries some of it with her. Even if she didn't (for fear of backlash or whatever) use the mattress line and disavows the song and probably will never play it live. She tapped into something for the rerecord and I'm glad she did. There's no way I can come away from it believing that wasn't feeling the vibe of the song the entire time. She put her whole speak nowussy into it, as was expertly said.

Erika Fern 🌿

Zach’s point about journalists not covering the REAL story - her historical move to re-record all of her albums and release each in celebration with her fans is so spot on!

Yasmin Alnassar

For me she really fumbled the bag with sparks fly

Olivia Williams

Madeline madam!! YOU WERE SPEAKING MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!! She is very nasally in the re-records vs. Midnights!!

Erin S

I love "I Can See You", but I do agree that the production is incongruous with the rest of the album. I'm thinking that maybe this is a song that existed on paper and in Taylor's voice notes, but maybe not much else... that there was no original produced track because it simply got cut before then. I also love "Castles Crumbling", but I didn't have a long history of expectation for this song. It wasn't a song I knew existed until this year... I completely missed all the Dark Blue Tennessee stuff. Taylor didn't really hook me as a fan until Red because I just wasn't a big country music listener. So my only exposure to her was through singles and live performances on TV shows and stuff... and I remember that 2010 Grammys performance and feeling pained listening to her and kind of writing her off as a studio creation. It wasn't until falling in love with Red that I even bought the Fearless and Speak Now CDs. (I still don't own Debut.) However, I was a huge Paramore fan back then, and so I was much more aware of their behind-the-scenes drama. And maybe that's why I like Castles Crumbling so much... I remember being critical of Taylor at that time because I wasn't actually a fan, and then I remember Hayley getting dragged through the mud over the Farro brothers' decision to leave the band and the grievances they aired at the time. And because I was a Paramore fan, when I finally did purchase Speak Now, Haunted and BTR were my favorites on the album. Probably still are. I would listen to those 2 on repeat, and occasionally listen to the rest, often skipping tracks. I just didn't know that much about her then and so I found it a little harder to connect. But I've probably listened to the album more recently than I ever did when I got it 10-11 years ago and have new appreciation for the album as a whole.