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Drag you to hell (Patreon)

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2021-03-31 00:35:37
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2026-06
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Fall of a boastful god & the steward of the armory 

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LordNidd

I sincerely apologize if this has been asked before, but: what's your stance on the Jockey/Engineer thing? Do you see them as separate species or different "variants" of the same species (I say "variants" because the Space Jockey in Alien is obviously much bigger than the Engineers and appears to have biological features that the Engineers use aesthetically)?

SpaghettiBastard

I’ve seen this debated many times. In the hard canon it seems we have to believe the Engineers and the Space Jockey are one in the same but I don't rule out the possibility that once Ridley leaves alien some kind of retcon can be made to reintroduce the giant elephantine being as a separate entity (I would not be opposed to this). The engineer aesthetic has grown on me but the universe seems so small now; humans are related to everything. The alien is barely alien.

TheBigFinish

I love this whole concept. I remeber a scene depicted like this in Hellboy: The Storm and The Fury, when the dead witches of England drag Nimue down to Hell. The quadrupedal space jockey reminds me of Axiom Verge.

LordNidd

I hear you, and that makes sense. I personally don't like the Engineers and Space Jockey being the same, mostly because it destroyed the mystique and compelling mystery of the Space Jockey's origins and purpose. I wholeheartedly agree with you about the universe being so small and humans being too involved. I'm having a hard time thinking of a worse origin for the legendary Xenomorphs than the fact that they were created by a man-made android with daddy issues. Combine that with all the stupid that goes along with it, like retconning the Xenomorphs to be a new phenomenon instead of an unknown, likely ancient species. I think Covenant even ruined *that* concept, as the origin in Prometheus was far better: the Xenomorphs are such a psycho-sexual monstrosity because their origin is literally a woman's reproductive organs mutating into a living creature, with as much sexual horror as that concept implies. But nope: an android with a Lawrence of Arabia fetish is officially the origin of the scariest, most awesome alien creature ever put to film (and comics, books, and video games).