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Chayanne Acosta

About time, I was waiting all night for this, thank you!

Guremaru

holy refresh pull

Guremaru

we eating good THIS MORNING

Samuel

Lets go!! Im too early though thought it was posted left night lol

Scared Cannon

TAKE YOUR L SER CRISPIN COLE 🤣🫵

Sueño

Yo the satisfaction I felt when those Arrows hit Kriston. I wanted him dead since day one, good start to an episode.

Lothbrok

MY GOSH, this show has turned into GARBAGE, what a HORRIBLE episode

sweetheart_leelee

So UPSET we lost corlys man!! And I don’t think driftmark had a new named heir yet, if I’m remembering right??!! Then with his sons not even getting legitimized 😫 I’m wondering how this will play out! Oh! While I’m here I’d like to recommend something. For your next movie watch can we get James Cameron’s Avatar trilogy if you guys haven’t seen any of the films yet? 😊 Avatar (2009) Avatar - The Way of Water Avatar - Fire and Ash

pineapplegreg

So satisfying to finally see Cole meet his demise, I’ve been waiting for this moment for YEARS!!!

ItsyaboyJABBER

Criston’s death is pretty much the same in the book just with a few different characters involved, but yeah his death is suppose to be quick and pathetic for a knight of his caliber. They cut out a line which I thought they would’ve kept since he was talking about songs so much lately. “I'll have no songs about how brave you died, Kingmaker. There's tens o' thousands dead on your account.”

sweetheart_leelee

I’m ngl I wanted a more painful death for him 😭 I was left unsatisfied

No Tap

RIP Criston Cole - the only warrior from the Dance of the Dragons that ASOIAF characters actually remember and reference

No Tap

Any Team Ulf's in the chat? I'd be flying Silverwing off to Essos after seeing Daemon and Rhaenyra's treatment of him.

Sueño

Yeah, it was a quick one, but long overdue. 😆

No Tap

that's ok as Criston said, he will be remembered forever unlike many others in the Dance.

No Tap

Princess Rhaenyra getting sliced up by the throne meanwhile King Aegon II can just lounge around on it LOLOL the gods have spoken about who the true ruler is

Ace

Rhaenyra readjusting her sleeve after Alicent touches her arm… she’s so incredibly charismatic in this episode

GooberM

a score is 20 btw

LeFlaneur

I don’t know why, but Ormund reminds me of General Blue from Dragon Ball 💀

aya

I don’t think Corlys is dead tbh. They’re definitely going to take him hostage and use him against Rhaenyra

GooberM

gotta say, i like Ulf even less after the scene around 15min, how are you going to complain about being at the "beck and call of the queen" as if he didnt actively choose to go to Dragon Stone and be a dragon rider of his own free will. conquest over here "im a victim of my own success"

No Tap

I would say becoming one of the 10 most powerful people in the world grants you royal favor greater than house arrest but what do I know?

Dontsop Keran

Cole genuinely got more hate then Joffrey shit crazy 😂

Anya

Cole died the same way in the book. Here's an iconic quote from the book I wish they included: "I'll have no songs about how brave you died, Kingmaker." "There's tens o' thousands dead on your account." -Pate of Longleaf Just last episode Cole spoke about dying glorious in battle and they will sing songs of it. He was denied that and instead received an ignoble end. "Today was butchery, not battle" - Ser Garibald This 'battle' is known in their history as "Butcher's Ball" They adapted the battle well with the dialogue just a few changes of who said what and who shot the arrows.

Samuel

Can't wait for Aegon to return😌

TheSauceGuy

There are far more soldiers still alive under his command in the book. He is also fired upon by multiple archers while still only being hit by 3 arrows. I am not aware of whether he was described as being on this suicide run while completely ignoring the welfare of his troops in the book or not. Because of this being the case in the show, when he asks to have his men spared, it doesn't feel very honorable, but rather hypocritical.

McT

Bro cut down like 12 ppl by himself with low morale and after an ambush. Thats no L

TheSauceGuy

I'm glad we got to see Criston with a flail again before he died.

Spideycain

facts lol and told them to run the 1v2 and they were scared so they shot him with an arrow that cant be a L lol say if they did that to daemon the would be mad and say that's not Honor

McT

People talk about Cole like he’s Joffrey/Cersei. Then you look at his crimes and it’s the mildest stuff in the HOTD/GOT verse. You’d think he groomed his teenage niece, or paralyzed and killed his wife for no reason.

Anya

Yes Vermithor and Silverwing has a long history. King Jahaerys rode Vermithor and Queen Alysanne rode Silverwing and they bonded during their reign. I loved that part sm and happy they included that.

kami

Rhaenyra is a fraud. I don't know how you guys still root for her TEAM DAERON!!!

McT

Yessir. Idk how we lost empathy for commonfolk like him being abused by nobles. Ulf and Hugh did the crown a favor risking their lives to tame dragons, not the other way around.

Benjamin Sanders

Something to look out for. A few episodes back when Helaena and Alicent were escorted to the room they’d be staying in after Rahenyra took king’s landing. Helaena immediately says she doesn’t like the room. I wonder if that’s the same room Cersei’s youngest son Tommin jumped out of. And we know Helaena has these powers so. Maybe some foreshadowing

Daniella

RIP Crispin Cole hopefully he gets to sell his oranges in the afterlife lol. Jokes aside i did enjoy his dialogue with Gwayne in s2 and earlier parts of this season, he was a rat but still interesting in realising the reality of the war. So ready to die with honour and in the heat of battle and died in the least honourable way possible 💀

Daniella

Baela and Alyn randomly smooching whilst Jace’s body is probably still wet made me feel some type of way 😭 Also Ormund vomiting his guts out whilst calling women squeamish his aura went down by -1000 pts

Anya

PLS SOMEONE FREE DAERON AND TESSARION

Anya

I like Ulf a lot actually and Daemon needs to chill. Ulf wasn't raised the same way of being a dragonrider so he needs to be more understanding. They're just continuing to alienate the people around them. Honestly I wouldn't blame Ulf if he left because they treat him so shitty.

christopher

no step, just straight uncle and niece

Scared Cannon

Smurfing on average soldiers and calling an old man and a kid for a duel is not that tuff. Ser Crispin isn't even top 20 of all time, gwayne would've no diffed him

Naya

Why is no one addressing that we didn’t see Corlys get killed ? He clearly was captured The knife sound was his

jrnoodles

Thanks Geks! Finally Crispin is dead

Kim 555

Why is Cannon wearing green? OFF WITH HIS HEAD

Lapzn

Hugh nor Addam get treated like shit bc they know when to be quiet, respectful, and not reckless. Ulf was gifted one of the greatest powers anyone could wish for; his lack of duty and understanding makes hem appear ungrateful so that’s why the nobles are irritating.

Lapzn

Lmao, the seven aren’t even real gods. Just figure heads of faith. Neither are particularly good rulers, except one couldn’t even rule with every advantage at his heels.

Kim 555

When I saw how the golden cloaks were killed and posed on the table at the end of the last episode, it reminded me of something or someone. It reminded me of Arya and how she and the Faceless killed. This episode confirmed it.

Benjamin Sanders

This lowkey is feeling like a chess game now 😬🔥

Daniel Odunukwe

Actually no one remembers him that much in game of thrones. he is barely talked about and when he is, it is in a negative light as the Kingmaker.

Philbo

Id argue Daemon is the only one that really listens to Rhaenyra and is locked in doing his job to keep her on that throne, alyn too i guess lol brother voices his frustrations cause the enemy is making moves but he does what she wants in the end She said to deal with the gold cloaks situation instead of going to tumbleton and thats exactly what he did She told him to talk to the gold cloaks to make sure they keep working without being paid and he went and gave them a grand speech (unfortunately they died shortly after that) He wanted to kill ormund and all the hightowers during there first meeting, but he didnt cause rhaenyra did want that

Yhwach

Indeed

Astro

"craven" might be the word of the season at this point

Gabriel Mesoma

Finally Baela and Alyn got together, one of the most badass couples in the verse

Christian Hawkins

Lmao on a scale 1-10 how personal was that analogy at the end? Lol

Kim 555

42:05 to think that this is exactly where Sansa was standing 200 years later looking down at Joffrey and Cersi.

Yhwach

Rhaenyra is terrible. Get her off the throne already.

Zach Dragon

All in all Criston Cole is such an interesting character, I think he was one of the better adaptions from book to show. Also say what you want but he was pretty badass.

Jack

Good riddance

Jack

Welp that’s Daemon for ya

Jack

Because she was the heir to the throne that Viserys named. It’s her birthright, so everyone trying to take it from her is wrong, that’s just how it is. Is she perfect, heck no far from it, no character in this show is truly good, I do like Daeron, but I don’t think he wants to be king even though he could be a good one potentially

Lothbrok

No, stinker writing and so many stupid changes from the books. So sad to see

Anya

No excuse you don't treat your allies that way especially when you need their help

Daniella

Same! I love seeing the dragons in love 🥹 the only healthy relationships in the show lol

Anya

Bruh facts lmao and Vermithor is so fierce yet so sweet towards Silverwing love to see it 🥹

LeFlaneur

What’s up Quincy

This is Daniel

I'm starting to think that team Black aren't fit to rule... the drama continues, and the stress levels rise 🙃

George B

There was a legit assassin that was just killed 3 seconds ago in the area.. you think if they found out Ulf drinks there he will just be let to have fun? Cmon guys..

Saki 🏴‍☠️✨❤️‍🔥

i love gwayne and daeron, and i hope gwayne doesnt leave him again, omg :( 💔 also i really want alicent and daeron to meet at some point, i swear that babys her clone 😫

George B

How are people defending Ulf? He is legitimately going to a place where several gold clocks have been murdered in broad daylight.. what do we think will happen when he is constantly boasting he is a dragonrider in some random tavern?

Anya

What you mean cmon?! Everyone is exhausted from this war and he only sought reprieve. Not the smartest thing to do rn and Ulf isn't the smartest person but he doesn't deserve to get hit for that and constantly being talked down to! Daemon does too much and this isn't the first time. Continue to use force and watch how fast people turn on you.

TheSauceGuy

Aegon has another son, Maelor, in the book. Despite being tied to several important plot points, they left him out. Because of this, I wouldn't be surprised either way; this child's father could be Aegon or Aemond.

TheSauceGuy

There are no W's in the Dance of the Dragons.

TheSauceGuy

What Rhaenyra DOES have going for her right now is her armies (insert respawning Riverlanders joke) and her dragons.

McT

@Daniel He's literally called the best and the worst of the Kingsguard, way to be unbiased

TheSauceGuy

Am I misremembering, or was that not the room her son was killed in?

TheSauceGuy

People always forget how Daemon straight-up murdered his wife in cold blood lol.

McT

Why are you framing the dragon as a neatly wrapped gift given to Ulf like he didn't have to risk death and earn the respect of Silverwing? Rhaenyra was the one given a gift, new dragonriders from out of nowhere at a time where she desperately needed numbers.

TheSauceGuy

Tbf, very few characters are mentioned in GoT from the Dance, if I'm not mistaken. Obviously there's Joffrey's spoiler that mentions some lol.

McT

Right, and while yes it is risky for Ulf to be drunk wandering around an assassin filled Flea Bottom, is there no middle ground between that and him being confined to the red keep, a place where he clearly doesn't belong?

McT

Every advantage? No one prepared Aegon to rule lol, while Rhaenyra got to sit in on her father's council meetings for over a decade.

Swish

At least Joffrey was entertaining

RapidStar

they dont forget they just dont care because theyre a fan of that side

Animeke

Less and less dragon action each season.

Tyler

I’m loving all the scenes with Oscar Tully and Ser Roderick I wish we got more with them. Criston’s death being so unceremonious all while he’s holding the handkerchief of someone who could care less about him seemed very fitting to me, such an interesting character from start to finish.

aqualuvrgirl

ugh iidk whats better a mullet on cannon or criston dying tough call

Grae

Ulf is a true Brexit geezer

Jackson Plummer

Lore wise he is the best fighter we know of at this time

DonDuh103

Wait it was off screened maybe he’s alive😭😭😭

DonDuh103

I also would have liked to see a more epic death for Criston or a much more helpless and pathetic way.

DonDuh103

Hugh and Ulf or boarding characters plus there actually bums🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ I’m also done with Harrenhal, it had way more aura when all we knew was Agon destroyed it.

DonDuh103

Criston getting killed before he powers up, that’s a anime foul those rules don’t apply here😂🙅‍♂️😂

Carrie

Cole beat a man to death at a wedding banquet and killed Lord Beesbury just for speaking out 😭 Daemon certainly gets away wth a lot but cmon now Cole's crimes are not mild lmao

McT

Compared to others in the verse those are mild. One of those was a clear accident as he meant to sit Lord Beesbury down, the other Cole felt so bad about he was ready to kill himself about it. Daemon, Cersei, Joffrey, Aemond, none of them show that much remorse for their actions, if they show any at all

George B

Sure but it doesnt seem like Ulf is trying to find that middle ground either and also they found a middle ground for Hugh and he completely betrayed that and endangered himself by going into enemy territory out of his own volition, Ulf and Hugh are not royalty hence they need stricter rules or they will act only for their own good(as both of them have)

Marsuvies Black

then don't watch it man I don't watch things I don't like. At least reframe from bringing negativity to the chat.

Anya

I'm against how they treat him that's what my original comment is for. I agree to having rules for safety but there are better ways to communicate your displeasure. Hitting and belittling someone will have the opposite effect. He can be foolish and impatient but he's been out there following their orders albeit not perfectly but it shows that he is willing. Royalty or not stricter rules does not mean you get to shit on those you deem lesser than you. Daemon needs to lead by example and actually educate them better.

Alli

why are we still pretending that the peopel from Valyria didnt do all this incest shit? this chick was literally with her cousin earlier, LOL

Frosty

its so funny cole got denied a true last stand in Alicent's honor, really liked that they let him show some skill but ultimately had him go out sad... truly a character that lost his honor by his own choices but also one thats been used and abused by the priveliged ones that ultimately care little for him. Also i dont think Corlys is dead here, it was too understated to be a death for a piece like him. You guys looking more disgusted at Alys than when Aemond kissed his mom is too funny... Alys storyline starting to grow on me, this season the Harrenhall hijinks are much less annoying than the last season cause its not really intruding onto an already existing and paused plotline like it did with Daemon when he was stuck there and not yet fully declaring for Rhaenyra at such an important time for her

Skyz

Vermithor and Silverwing are pretty closely bonded dragons, they are meant to be a lot closer in size though. Vermithor looks nearly twice the size, where as really he is only meant to be a few years older.

Lothbrok

Lmao stop it. Im just extremely dissapointed in how ass the show has become, I can express that in the COMMENT section, thank youuuu

George B

I mean I guess in an ideal world yeah.. but in game of thrones that rarely happens, royalty will act like that towards those they deem lesser - Cersei, Joffrey, Aemond, Aegon would all do this without blinking an eye - its how it is but yeah I agree with you

Hobatty

Counting or not counting Riverman violence...?

Kadence

you cant talk sense into them McT, nobody reads

Yara

im just confused about the score in this season like how come they're not using rhaenerya theme song, they're using a different one they used in episode 2 of this season and they keep using only that one same for the velaryon theme, they used it only in the 1st episode, the score choice this season is so weird

SammiewiththebigT

Did we forget that Ulf, along with Hugh and Addam all ignored their orders and left a mission, because they grew tired of winning? If they're going to ignore orders constantly and do what they want, it's no suprise violence is being used. Not defending Daemon, but Ulf isn't making it easier on his superiors.

SammiewiththebigT

ACTUALLY, how are you calling women squeamish and then in the next scene throws up....?

Jenny D

I was glad when Criston died. It was long overdue. Cannon and Carter have some interesting analogies. Lol I like how spooky Alys is, but I feel like she's not really on any side. I was surprised by Alyn and Baela kissing since didn't have many scenes together. I feel so bad for Daeron. It was nice to get a glimpse of him away from Ormund. I am not convinced Corlys is dead. He has been on deaths door so many times. I don't know what Rhanerya thinks Alicent will be able to do. I get they want to give her more of a role, but it isn't going to work out how she wants it too. Poor Heleana. She never wanted this life and now she is being confined and will be alone. I can't believe the season is almost over. The pacing is slow, but I do like some of the extra things they have added.

Animeke

RIP Cole, didn't deserve that death.

Anya

If you actually read my comments sammie I mention he's not smart or following these orders perfectly so no it's not forgotten! In no way I'm excusing Ulf's behavior just as I'm not excusing Daemon's! If your allies and subjects don't 'make it easier' does that mean they should get this treatment? Hell no and that's what my comment is about, his treatment! Idk why it's so hard to understand 🤦‍♀️

Anya

Agreed George and I understand. And if Ulf was with the greens and being treated that way I would've said the same thing. Ulf can be a fool but leaders are held to a higher standard especially Daemon who's way more experienced. Like clearly violence isn't working so stop. (Idk my comment disappeared so I'm commenting again)

Euphemia Isobel

They hate him because he's a traitor and he crowned the king who wasn't chosen, which led to the death of thousands and all the dragons

Carrie

Don't know if I buy that he was that remorseful about killing Joffrey, I think it was more about soiling his own honor, but he's not gleeful about violence so I see your point! I actually did find him to be a compelling character these last few episodes

Astro

I really think/hope they didn't kill Corly's, considering, 1) they left it on a cliff hanger, 2) those hightower dudes look like they were only choking him out, they easily had the drop on him and coulda stabbed him like crazy, 3) Ormund was saying earlier how he respects Corly's as a leader, and is a very smart guy, if i had to guess Ormund is trying to get Corlys on their side and get him to bend the knee to Daeron. since the show has changed the part of Rhaenyra legitimizing his sons maybe Ormund will tempt Corly's with that?

Datta

You have to always remember guys… when it comes to GOT universe if I didn’t happen on screen don’t jump to conclusions. We don’t know if Corlys is dead it looks like he was captured

TheSauceGuy

He didn't mean to kill Beesbury, but I'd agree he's not mild at all. Imo, his actions are more mild than Daemon's, though. He's a more complex character than people give him credit for, and I think that's in part due to his writing in the earlier seasons.

TheSauceGuy

@Euphemia Isobel Do you think he should've let the past be the past and join Rhaenyra? I'm not sure how that would go tbh.

TheSauceGuy

What a great way to put it. She basically asked all these people to leave everything behind in the HOPES of obtaining a dragon. Most of them were killed, along with some of Rhaenyra's own men, because she was so desperate. She's lucky she got any riders out of that atrocity.

TheSauceGuy

Are you speaking of the show or the books?

TheSauceGuy

Why not let him invite his two mates from the tavern when he's not out on watch? He primarily wants a bit of fun and some security for himself in the future. Rhaenyra has done a poor job of this, somewhat understandably so given her circumstances.

TheSauceGuy

They did and have continued to do it throughout their history. Rhaenyra had THREE CHILDREN with her UNCLE. It wasn't even an arranged thing with her; she WANTED it.

Dreamfyre

I noticed that too but I'm really loving Rhaenyra's new musical theme. It's darker and more ominous...and beautiful, like everything Ramin Djwadi composes.

No Tap

Mysaria is such a bum

Preston Biggar

I don't see it mentioned, and I'm not exactly sure what to say so that I don't get into spoiler territory, but as far as I'm aware, this is a big change from the books, assuming Corlys is in fact dead and not just captured?

Avital Lockhart

Everytime theres a "good" king on the throne, people take it as "weak". I think Rhaenyra is doing her best considering all the F she's been through and still going The losses, the betrayals, the lack of money, the lack of support, and the never ending war against her. Aegon was "good", he was eager to please anyone who came to him with a request, which made him popular with the people. However, within the palace, he repeatedly made mistakes.. one of them was appointing Cole as Hand of the King.

Avital Lockhart

"Rhaenyra will not burn her own subjects, she is a women" Daenerys: 🔥DRACARYS!🔥

Avital Lockhart

Hollyyyy!!!! I just realized that the intro of the show is actually embroidery that Helaena is sewing!!!! AAAAAaaaa ♥♥♥

jblakk

Late to the party but Stannis talks about Rhaenyra.

S Moonchild⁷

This show feels exactly how civil war should feel. Brother killing brother, friends turning on each other, betrayals from people you least expect. Heleana's question broke my heart, her marrying Jace would have stopped civil war. She found him nice and he wouldn't have mistreated her. Instead she is getting raped by her own crazy brother. And then her children are getting killed to avenger that brother. Idk what I would have done if I were Rhaenyra, but I would have attacked Tumbleton. No need to burn the whole city, burn main place. I really like Gwayne and Daeron.

Frosty

need this next drop tonight 🙏🙏🙏

brog.

stopped watching this adaptation but had to pull up to my opp's funeral to make sure he was dead ripbozo

brog.

addicted to reading people pretend to not get why we hate cole