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.B. .L. .E. .A. .C. .H. 192-193 (Patreon)

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Hebby

I’ve been waiting for these episodes

kai

OKAY JERSEYSSSS 🔥

Kona

Let's effing go bleach drops make my day

Ly

LETS GOOOOOOO

Boppy

Fun bleach fact I learned today. Orihime got evicted from her house after being attacked by her brother and was homeless most of the first arc but they left that out in the anime.

Dreamknight942

“Is it Ichigo’s mom?!” Jack I can’t 😅

Daniella

I was waiting for this one! Absolute cinema 🙂‍↕️🔥

Izaya

I think its time for some binge or some increase in the uploads so we can move on faster

stako

Rest In Peace, Brodie

Gui Brawl

Szaiyelaporro doesnt suck necessarily Its just that his powers arent very direct or physical, he doesnt weild a weapon and fights head on. In fights like this you need a good direction and character acting to replace the usual hand do hand, weapon to weapon fight. Because of the nature of hes power you need to use other methods to keep the fight engaging. Thanks to kubos art and paneling the fight is much more enjoyable, if this fight came out today by the team that does tybw or any other semy competent studio it would look good and be engaging. In tybw theres a lot of fights that arent so straightforward like ichigo vs grimmjow, for example. Because their powers are more complex and require more" brainpower", a good example would be in cour 3 the episodes Baby hold your hand, iykyk. That fight is one of my favourites im the whole show. This fight is pretty meh to decent in the anime as a whole. In the manga its decent to good and pretty good towards the end of it.

Kurofi

So I wanna understand (and I wasn't part of the crowd that “hindsighted” Nel when she was first introduced but....) If a character is introduced and people get excited, you guys automatically think/feel that they're goated or special or something and that we are leading you to believe that or spoiling? Like even if people just like her kid form and the humor and that's it, that's hindsight merchanting? Because there is NO WAY you would have guessed this outcome. Not without someone intentionally spoiling. So I do not understand why you get so upset to the point that it takes away (or looks like it does) from the moment. I'm not saying the comment sections have been great. There are a lot of assholes just wanting to troll and spoil or people who don't think before they comment - I get how that's upsetting. And I want you to have the watching experience you deserve! I could be wrong about this specific situation and maybe there were comments that alluded to how big her part was. But I've noticed that y'all get upset for people simply getting excited about a character showing up good or bad....and it's sorta exhausting. You didn't do this with Dio when you started Jojos and you knew how much people loved him going into it. So I just do not get it and it's been brought up so much lately lol Maybe it's time get a Mod for the comments to help prevent this? Just a suggestion.

The Dawg of Ulthar

The manga is much better. The anime drags almost every single fight on to pad time and adds a lot of those over the top “comedy” moments. They do a good job on the important fight scenes but they pad time where they feel they can and it becomes grating. Glad you guys are still enjoying it over all though! I look forward to these reactions

jrnoodles

Thanks Geks! W package, awesome shirts and goodies! I love to see how thoughtful some of the viewers are. What was the hindsight merchant about Nel? I don't read comments so I'm wondering, were people just saying she was strong?

Jenny D

I wondered if Nel was more than she appeared. Was surprised that she was number 3. Curious to see who the other number 3 is that replaced her. I do agree that Renji and Uryu's fight is dragging on. I just want them to take down this guy or maybe someone from the Soul Society who can take him out.

bigdog

Itsugooooooooo

Boppy

She jokes about having to sleep outside with a sleeping bag but she was actually staying at a hotel

Darren J

Literally the kid version is liked already lol

DarynkaD Bleach

Hi, Geks) Fun fact: while Ichigo and the gang were in the Soul Society, and now are in Hueco Mundo, in the World of the Living, Don Kanonji created a team to fight hollows. The Soul Society arc team included him, Kon, Ichigo's sisters, Ururu, and Jinta. The Arrancar arc team included him, Kon, Ururu, Tatsuki, Keigo, and Chizuru.

alizé

i’ve been WAITING for these episodes, i luv nel

McKay Carter

I don’t think “everyone” is in the wrong nor do I think “everyone” is excluded from the criticism, I think there’s validity from our end on how we feel about how a character is defended, but I also think there’s a fine line and wanting to be excited for a character on your end should be totally fine. I believe we are one of the rare groups that does read comments compared to other channels and maybe the solution is just reading less or filtering them better, it’s just tricky

McKay Carter

The Nel stuff was directed basically at me, I could’ve taken it the wrong way but it did seem like a lot of hype/defense for a character we had known for a couple episodes but I will take everything with a grain of salt from now on

Ayanokoji kiyotaka

My favorite part of your reactions are when dondochakka and pesche are on the screen lol.

Daniella

Lmao the first words Cannon's child will say is HINDSIGHT MERCHANT at this point bro 😭 Jokes aside, i do think there's a clear difference between people who are commenting with hindsight and people who like a character and comment because of who they are at that present moment. For example, most people liked Byakuya not because he turned out to be a good guy but because he looked and sounded cool (plus he's hot lol) when he first showed up. Imo this is not the same thing as people who were overexplaining stuff about Ikkaku, obviously sometimes these things can overlap, but Nel was cute as a child and now she's cool as an adult. I don't recall any comments calling her goated but rather they liked her as a cute little girl. As soon as i saw the comments about her i knew we were gonna get hindsight merchant allegations though 🥲

stako

W Michael for hopefully being the catalyst for them starting Korra 🔥 And shoutout to the author in the beginning 🔥

izykyzi

I knew exactly what the spoiler was gonna be when he said he was spoiled by a thumbnail. So lame! Sad that was ruined for him

Jeff

Just came from Slime fridays. When it cooks holy it cooks. Coming off a high.😂🔥 Now ready for thissssssss.

T.Yaseen

Carter don't you ever dare disrespect my Goat Steph Curry like that how dare you!! tell KD to win a ring without Steph challenge impossible lmao

Daniella

Part of me wishes that Mckay's watched Bleach already i miss his all-knowing smirks and looks to the camera 🤣

Alex Ramirez

I said I like Nel because she's cute and funny. That didnt hindsight merchant that she's a hot and powerful babe. Make it make sense 🤔

Kurofi

That's fair and I appreciate the response, McKay! I do know people can get defensive when y'all criticize or aren't impressed with a character, and those people definitely need to chill sometimes (I've been guilty of it too lol). I can see how that influences how you guys read certain comments, and I definitely don't want it to stop you from engaging with the comment section. I just think most of the time the excitement is probably innocent. Using you as an example, McKay, you tend to not like certain goofy characters/anime tropes, which is perfectly fine! But us liking or defending those characters (or even a villain) doesn't necessarily mean we're hinting at something. Sometimes we just liked their first impression even if you didn't. I think that's where my frustration is. When normal excitement starts getting treated as potential hindsight/spoiling, the reactions become a little less enjoyable. And *some* of y'all get a little TOO worked up about it 😂 Calling the comment section "disgusting" over "hindsight merchants" was maybeeee a bit much lol. Actual spoilers or people intentionally being slick should absolutely be called out. I just don't think every bit of fan excitement should be viewed through that lens. Anyways, appreciate you hearing me out and responding! Thanks as always for the great content!

Ron

Am I the only one that skips thru the Renji and Ishida scenes?

Kadence

Every single reaction theres gotta be something about hindsight merchants its so annoying. God FORBID a viewer likes a character before yall

Kadence

Glad someone else is asking about it, its every single reaction at this point

G’Rale Gambino

Be ready to eat y’all words next week..and beyond 😂 now the mud is over ,,, on

Kurofi

Dawg. Every. Freaking. Reaction. It’s not that deep for people to get THAT pissed about it lmao I’ve started hearing “hindsight merchants” in my nightmares!

kai

the laugh i let out when he said that

alex anderson

This whole thing is really just an outlier of things that have happened with characters opinions. I don’t remember the original comments and there’s definitely ways to word a comment that spoil/not spoil, but for whatever reason Nel is just the one character they think everyone spoiled them on, when there are plenty other scenarios with other characters and other series where this wasn’t an issue. And as someone who is watching this for the first time with them, and obviously that isn’t everyone here, i find it weird to assume that a comment about a character can be interpreted in a way where everything else is out the window and, “they are only writing this because she is important to the story and will have significance in the future” is the only interpretation. I saw the Nel comments and was suprised and excited both this episode and the first time she absorbed a cero, didn’t feel spoiled at all. A bunch of people hyped up byakuya and he hasn’t done anything in 100+ episodes. All he’s done is look cool. It feels like jacks whole “throw shizz at the wall and see what sticks”

AttackRunRepeat

Agreed. I love kid Nel and thought she was fun. I try my best not to spoil but I don't think saying you love a character is a spoiler. Bleach has a lot of good characters for many different reasons and some of them only show up for an episode or two.

kai

it cracks me up at this point cause no one is even hindsight merchanting they just like the character and is just hyped to see them 😭

alex anderson

Maybe some comments got deleted from the reaction but for the sake of the argument, I just went back and looked at the episode where all the “hindsight” was being commented and every comment was either “slander will not be tolerated” or “Nel is cute and funny” or a combination of both. Like I said, maybe some comments got removed that were worse, but it honestly just feels like confirmation bias.

Bob Loblaw

There's 2 types of people that have watched Bleach and look back at it - The type that focuses on the side characters and their trash battles and misplaced "comic relief," and the type that focuses on the parts that hit. Both sides tend to forget how good/bad the other actually was. Re-living this arc on this channel has reminded me just how bad some of the scenes and episodes are because when I think of the Hueco Mundo arc, I only think about the events from this point moving forward. Tbh I didn't even remember there being so many episodes before it gets to this point.

malealoo

Yooo it's my birthday this week too, Aug 15th. Happy Birthday my guy!

Kurofi

Either way, I’m tired of them bringing it up almost every reaction and yelling at us about it when nothing happened. I’m not saying they all yelled/got upset or brought it up (some of them get too upset….every time) and like I said, when it’s obvious and bad, I get it. But I’m over hearing about it 🤣

Maj

I'm the same, it is truly awful at parts during this arc. I remember it being a drag but not like this, without a doubt the worst canon arc of the show

Bob Loblaw

Every single person that loves Nel is basing it on the full picture with THIS Nel; not a single one of you would say Nel is one of your fav characters based JUST on the snot nosed kid Nel. Every single person that has seen something in its entirety and then comments about how great it is when its only been partially revealed is thinking based on hindsight on some level. And you're lying to yourself if you think you're actually isolating your view on just the partial information that's been shown. Even me saying I think this arc is one of the best when up to this point it clearly isn't is based on hindsight because I know what the peaks are.

T.Yaseen

I know that the fight with Espada n8 is dragging but I do like his ability, especially at the end. The pacing is definitely an issue here.

Daniel Walker

The frustration with the Szayelaporro fight is valid, because the anime was catching up to the manga again so the studio decided to extend something... while picking already the slowest fight out of these. The fight with Szayelaporro is, of course, 5 times better and shorter in the manga still. The Pesche and Dondochakka comedy for like 80% is anime only. Also, the censorship is getting worse from here; Ishida was spitting blood... Bro's stomach is completely destroyed and they censored it with water juice. This arc is heavily mistreated by the studio and director and just like all of the big 3, suffers from horrible pacing due to shonen anime's mandatory weekly episode during that era of television. May we all live to see a remake of the big 3 with the animation and fillerless pacing they deserve (One Piece is already on it, no?).

Kurofi

I liked Nel as soon as I saw her lmao her reverted form was a bonus but I remember how I felt about her when I first saw her so please, don’t generalize. That’s the problem here, people simply cannot believe that we like the “annoying character” unless they have some sort of cool twist or plot point later in the show. And it’s not just with Nel. This happens with all types of characters here.

Maj

I think Michael takes the cake for best PO box submission 👏🏾👏🏾

alex anderson

I agree that this is true for some, but to assume that EVERYONE is doing that, when you don’t know the person behind the username and whether they have seen the show or not or what about the character appeals to them, I think is bit egregious. At that point, just ask for less engagement with the post. I don’t think they are wrong to think that some people are, but there have been times similar to this where this whole thing hasn’t been an issue. This isn’t even mentioning the argument where it’s COMPLETELY FINE for some reason for them to have knowledge about when the peak and down moments are in the show when they haven’t seen them yet, because those comments are definitely hindsighting based on the full picture of the arc. Obviously you mention that so I’m not talking specifically about you, but it’s a weird double standard for me.

James L

If you guys don't like thumbnails, there is a Crunchyroll google chrome extension to hide the thumbnails. Only for for shows on Crunchyroll of course, but it has helped my sanity tremendously in avoiding spoilers. Crunchyroll Thumbnail Remover if you're interested

Hotdog

I think it should be 100% up to the people reacting to decide what they feel is spoilery or not. If they feel like "hindsight merchants" or anything else is affecting their reaction to the show then that should be the only thing that matters IMO. I watch reaction channels for raw unspoiled reactions. If the person reacting feels like they've been spoiled in some way, it affects their reaction, which in turn kind of ruins my enjoyment of the reaction as a viewer. I don't think I'm alone in thinking that if the reactor is saying repeatedly that something is affecting their enjoyment then I think commenters should respect that even if they disagree. It's not hard to hold back your comments about a character for a little bit longer when you already know there's a big reveal or event involving that character soon.

Kai-lo

I watched the Normies watch Bleach and they needed someone to filter their comments for Bleach to not get spoiled so maybe that would be the move going forward

Jeff

I say it every now and then but people shouldn't comment about any characters being favs or not favs or else its gonna be hindsight.

Ante

Yall can say they're being harsh with the hindsight accusations, but the fact is 99% of the time they make a hindsight merchant call, the character DOES goes on to be plot relevant in a way that would have changed their opinion naturally. From their perspective of course it would be annoying. With a 99% hit rate, I'd say the comments have to be to blame more than the Geks are. If Nel disappeared 3 episodes after she was introduced like any other side-character, would we still have gotten all the 'goat'-type comments? Idk. Where are the Dondochakka and Pesche fan clubs? How come no one claimed them as goats? Other than Nel maybe being more 'cute' than them, these characters were just as 'annoying'/'funny' as Nel was back then. You guys think you have such great control of your hindsight, what if you're just wrong. I've been guilty of this with Law/Aokiji in OP, but that's on me at the end of the day, not them.

Hotdog

I also think it's because there's already a history of the Bleach comment section being "hindsight merchants" earlier in the show. I think it's fair for them to be bothered by the "slander will not be tolerated" comments when a character first shows up and hasn't done anything yet. Specifically because we've already been through this exact same thing with Ikkaku and people saying the exact same "slander will not be tolerated" type comments before he had done anything. Someone just saying Nel is funny and cute is totally fine. That doesn't spoil anything or lead anyone on.

OnBeBe

I swear on everything I love the fornicator is tuff it's just the terrible anime pacing and poor animation

KazumaSpitfire

Anything positive said about characters the geks find annoying = hindsight merchant

wileykat

Ichigo's mom 😂

wileykat

This is why you got so many comments warning you about this arc 😂 it's up and down. I'm glad you guys are a bit disappointed, shows you have consistent standards.

LuvStarburst

The whole intro to this episode was really great to watch, just to see them open the package and talk was fun to watch. To be fair, I loved Nel when she first appeared cause she added some funny commentary to the show, and it was great. Little did I know down the road how important she would become.

ThirtyStik

damn, i didn't know that saying hindsight merchants was such a no no lmaoo ... i definitely took it as actually having an interest in the series and truly wanting to experience it in its best form (as far as an actual blind reaction lol) the hindsights comments are NOT that deep lol

ThirtyStik

Also, we get that extra drop by default right? :)

Alexander

I appreciate a fellow Westbrook fan

McKay Carter

That’s not the point at all but oh well

alex anderson

I agree that it’s up to them since it’s their viewing experience, I also think is fair that we should respect that and it isn’t hard to hold those comments back. I agree that the ikkaku stuff might have influenced the jumping to conclusions here by the “slander will not be tolerated”. My only gripe is that one, the constant mention when no one is commenting that anymore is ruining some other people’s viewing experience, which should be treated with the same level of respect as your own. And two, there is a double standard here when it comes to other characters where it is completely fine for them but not for this one, and also a double standard for characters in general but not for knowing how an arc is supposed to go, if it’s peak, mid, we’re in the mud, whatever. I’m sure for Nel specifically, it’s just because they already didn’t like her, so the comments made them seem like that if people liked her, this wasn’t all there was to her, which again, the logic is there. But why is it all of a sudden a problem NOW. Are commenters only allowed to comment that they like a character for Xyz reason when the Geks also like them? That doesn’t make sense to me at least, which part of the reason I like going into comments is to see opinions that differ from mine and give me new perspectives. I don’t think hive minding around an opinion is engaging and makes the comments feel less genuine, and overall less interaction is the only outcome I see. Idk maybe I’m reading to deep but that’s my thought process.

Alexander

In the dub they made her have a different voice after the transformation idk why the sub used the same kid voice for her lol

shinigamiO.O

I don’t think anyone disagrees that the Renji/Uryu vs Szayelapporo fight is too long and boring. Bleach is my favorite show yet there’s a lot of fights in this arc that I get bored of. I just saw a video recently that this arc was during the high-point of popularity for the Bleach manga due to the success of the Soul Society arc. Because of that, *supposedly* the editors at Shounen Jump pushed Kubo to stretch the content out more than he originally intended (I’ve been hearing versions of this rumor for years, I’d heard alternatively that he didn’t intend to have so many Espada which inflated the cast), so we got a ton of fights that didn’t do much for the story. You hear about those kind of editorial decisions that hurt their series in the long run.

Enma

Alright thats enough hindsighters! I swear none of you knows what hindsighting even means. Didn't you guys know that talking about any new character ever is automatically referencing or implying to something that will most certainly happen in the future? Defending a character from the geks comments of being annoying by saying "no slander" because you just so happen to think that "Nel is funny and cute" has implications to her having crazy abilities. Read the rules guys: Simply stating that you like someone SHOULD be and WILL be taken that deeply and as PROOF that that character will eventually be important, have their arc, or have a crazy epic moment in the future.

Enma

Im about to start commenting no slander for every new character so they think they're all universal level threats.

Lucas.

McKay im jealous of your shirt!

Kurofi

🤣🤣🤣🤣

The King of Raw

I agree. Having read the response to this I understand, but I think the constant 'hindsight' whatever bashing detracts from the reactions.

Kurofi

It will never make sense lol

Uncle Tsukishima

The szayel aporro fight has been pure mud since it began. It will shape up immensely next upload. 🙏

ThirtyStik

This renji and uryu fight is bonk asf 😭😭 it’s sooooo drawn out. The end conversation is needed so you guys have time to talk about it and be honest with y’all’s selves. Nothing worse than holding it in and having it blow up and getting sick of the show entirely.

LuvStarburst

Everyone will have their opinions on this anime and many others. The great thing about watching you boys is that you all have your opinions, whether we agree with them or not. The banter going back and forth and bringing up thoughts about comments you have read is a great thing.

Kurofi

I mean 99% is doing a LOT of heavy lifting here lol. Even if you’re being hyperbolic. But your last sentence is basically my point. If someone says “Nel is the GOAT” and you infer that she must become important later, that’s an inference you made. That’s very different from “just wait 👀” or actually hinting at something. Fans shouldn’t have to pretend they don’t love a character just to avoid being accused of hindsight. And sometimes people just latch onto certain characters more than others 🤷🏾‍♂️

Alexander

People tell them whether an arc is gonna be good or bad but they never care

Jeff

I mean they prob shouldn’t hype it or not hype it either or else it all goes into a pre-bias

Alexander

I'm just saying that's something they openly allow and even ask about but liking a character and them turning out to be good is a problem

지원

boring ahh fight

Jeff

I think the problem is that is typically the case tho. More than less of the time a character people like is basically screaming that they are likely to be in the show in some way shape or form in the long run which could hint at some sort of importance.

Jeff

This. Right. Here.

Jeff

This is it exactly. Even if it’s not meant to be. Sadly 99% of the time a liked or disliked character hangs around enough to be liked or disliked.

Elio

Omg the box and the letter were so heartwarming❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

Kurofi

You crack me up in every comment section lmao

Kurofi

Hindsighter!!!

Tore Eidsli

i think complaining about hindisght merchanting is to some degree admitting that you thought(or hoped) that the character would be completely unimpressive and forgetable. like maybe give shows a bit more credit than that? or at the very least acknowledge that EVERY character in any anime ever is someone's favorite.

Tore Eidsli

imagine commenting about nel after her first episode "man she is HOT"

Alex Ramirez

I was contemplating doing that tbh lol

kpthpthhh

IS IT HIS MOM OR SOMETHING JACK im gonna cry

Tore Eidsli

in any somewhat good show you should EXPECT that a majority of named characters have some plot relevance or character development though, if you think the show is good/decent you should assume that they are going to be relevant. also i wonder how the Geks would flip out if they watched star wars and saw all the boba fett hype.

Jenna Antonelli

I just keep checking the video batches and each one coming up is one im looking forward to. Yes there are slow or unecessary parts but the peak parts are why I have no problem returning for rewatches.

Jenna Antonelli

Ok genuinely for your own curiosity, you guys should see what Nel and Neliel sound like in English cause I promise you its so much better. Her adult voice was handled much better imo and her baby voice is much less annoying.

Michael Iparraguirre

Oh yay!!! I'm glad you liked all the stuff! I was hoping everything fit lol. You guys are so tall compared to me I was nervous about the sizes I got.

MADHOUSE

I wanted to ask you guys this for the past couple of years, and while I don't like publicly promoting piracy, you guys already manually screen capture the episodes for the reactions anyway: Why not just get them via torrents (e.g. Nyaa). It will... 1. save you time and effort from having to manually capture the episodes 2. keep you from getting spoiled by thumbnails like McKay did here I understand if you guys do it the current way for episodes (for any show/movie) where subtitles are different, but for the most part, they're all the same. I always thought y'all had an editor doing that for you lol. Just curious why you guys do it the long and tedious way. Also lmk if this is like a taboo topic 😅

Dut

McKay thinks he’s slick

Taesan Jo

hard disagree, its really not hard to keep it to yourself. By getting defensive of a character when it hasn't been revealed why they're liked is a spoiler in itself. Its like if you're watching Harry Potter for the first time and you say "I dont like Snape" then your friend goes off to say "He's my favorite character,". Clearly now you now there is something more to Snape while watching the entire series.

Alex Ramirez

You guys are reaching the part of Bleach with unnecessary long recap at the beginning of the episodes. Maybe we can get 3 episodes per batch while skipping the recaps? 👀

Jonas Teigen

1:03 Kaku vs Zoro was NOT better imo, but I would say Sanji vs wolf dude was better. Arguably the best side fight in EL, which is not a really high bar unfortunately.

Nicolas Rolland

Lmao Westbrooks MVP is not worth three curry rings holy rage bait

Jonas Teigen

I really hope Bleach gets a remake one day. The main problem with this arc is just the production. It's great in the manga. If u look past the obvious sprinkled in filler and pacing, then it is really good. If it got the JJK treatment, this arc would be glazed to the moon.

Nrock23

Rip Russ

Nanami's Wife

Yeah I agree, that's how I felt when Big Mom was introduced. They thought the excitement/hyped was hindsight merchanting but it's just half of people excited for a new character that has already been mentioned before and the other half is happy to see one of their favorite characters. And they knew of her name already even before the show, but they never say anything about hindsight merchanting with Dio. Same with Byakyua, he's literally one of my faves bc he's hot, cool, and nonchalant😭 but they swore he was going to be a good guy bc of the comments. Even with "annoying characters". Like no it's not hindsight merchanting, sometimes I just like the annoying character because they're funny to me😭 You can like a character at the present moment even before you fully know them. I really liked Nel when she was introduced, and the plot twist was a plus. And I do understand that there are annoying people who do comment hindsight merchanting stuff, but they shouldn’t always assume someone’s favorite character has redeeming qualities or they the goat. Sometimes it’s not the case, they just favorite them for their own reason. Just a normal anime experience really, every character is someone’s favorite. But yeah, if it’s really affecting their experience they should probably start putting mods up

Dontsop Keran

It’s 10/10 if you read the manga though

evelyngaara

Nel is not stronger than Ulquiorra

Rising Dynasty

Biggest mystery is why Orime is not healing ichigon during the whole episode . Including during dialogue

Niko

alex anderson

Nah McKay the goat, all the geks are goated, it’s just a little debate thats going on.

Goldyz

What makes you feel the need to tell them that

croqueto

Part of loving bleach is recognizing its shortcomings, specially with the anime. Please keep sharing your opinion. If someone can't accept that this part of the anime is a slog they are delusional

croqueto

I understand it might not be the case, but a sizeable portion of the viewers seem to agree with the commenter. This is -at the very least- valuable feedback to you on how your audience perceives this topic. We engage because we care. It would be nice if engagement was reciprocated with something other than "no, but oh well"

JPickup6

Where do you rank westbrook among PGs all time McKay (im ready for top 3) im going 7 or 8

T-rav 3

I was watching some NSYNC just now…”what a sick reveal”. lol I started laughing the second you guys said it together

T-rav 3

Once you watch enough anime you start to pick up on certain character tropes. So I imagine as reactors, these guys pick up on certain fan reactions and it’s probably normal to have a couple complainers or detractors, but when they get an abnormal amount of comments complaining about them disliking a character, it makes it painfully obvious that the character in question has redeeming qualities that are being hidden and are yet to be revealed. They went through this already earlier on with Rukia’s brother and having a bunch of pushback in the comment section. In a nutshell, they can see it coming because of the comments being made, and it halfway spoils surprising moments. I can understand why they get upset

llB0JANGLESll

imagine thinking todays nba holds a candle to MJ's. YIKESSSSSS

Mack

Facts

Ante

@Tore Well its not really about plot relevance is it. Its more about their natural opinions being swayed. They dislike Byakuya because hes an antagonist - the comments say they're being too harsh on him. They think Ikakku is weak because he's Ichigos first opponent - the comments say they have misjudged his strength even though baby Ichigo packs him up. They roll their eyes at Nel because she appears on screen and then cries for 10mins straight - comments are lining up to say they love her. @Kurofi I said 99% because I couldn't remember a single time they got it wrong to the point where they had to retract. Maybe Perona in One Piece. Of course you pretend. That's what not spoiling is, just pretending you don't know things. When Nico Robin is introduced by 'killing' Igaram, why would I be in the comments talking about "Oh that's my favorite, I love her so much" LOL. Theres always a balance.

Zess

ok I NEED to know the brand those shirts came from because wtf theyre so good lol usually anime clothes are so cheap, but that art is actually clean.

Zess

She's rank 3 and he's rank 4, you're just wrong and pushing your powerscaling head canon lol also just let them experience the story yeah? Who cares you're further ahead in the story, let them experience it blind and have fun without "corrections" that are just agenda posting. This isn't reddit, it's a blind reaction from new fans. And please dont counterpoint with any argument, it's not needed, just move on.

McKay Carter

Wow thank you Taesan, what a refreshing comment

McKay Carter

Wow thank you T-rav for taking the time to understand what we meant

McKay Carter

I’ve explained my thoughts in another thread

Zess

"IS IT GOING TO BE HIS MOM?!" And somehow people think Jack watches ahead still lol

McKay Carter

Yeah this is a stretch, it’s more about one person on the couch complaining about someone and the masses instantly defending said character, then said character is revealed to be extremely important later on, is what it is

McKay Carter

I thought no one was spoiling tho?

Nash

Lmao same

McKay Carter

Thank you Ante for understanding the frustration

evelyngaara

I can come and leave a comment with my opinion. You can move along

McKay Carter

Nobody spoiled anything, we felt like there were spoilerish comments, but we are completely wrong and ridiculous and should be banished for thinking anything of the sort and should love every character equally no matter what anyone says

Bonny2132

The only good thing about the Szyayel Apporo fight is literally the last quarter of it, just bare with Renji and Ishida being total jobbers for a little longer and you'll reach the good stuff. We are also nearing the point where Pesche and Dondochakka will stop taking up screentime.

Zess

I thought the fight with Kaku and Zoro was fine, he just looks dumb as a giraffe lol but the fight itself is still good and doesnt last way too long like this one. The fight with Renji and Ushida is more similar bad fight wise in Enies Lobby to like, soap girl vs straw hats honestly. This current fight theyre having wouldnt even be too bad if it just wasnt lasting so damn long lol

Zess

Bro, you gotta tell me what brand those shirts are from lol please

Faradyn

The whole hindsight merchant situation is just unfortunate. As someone who enjoys having a blind viewing experience, I 100% understand being upset at the viewing experience being effected by comments. On the other hand, you are a reaction channel and you are reading the comments, so without great comment moderation I just don't think this kind of thing is 100% avoidable, which is unfortunate. It's tough because I am sure a majority of the time interacting with the comments is a lot of fun for you guys. I am curious how many people know that you all read the comments and are just excited about what's happening and discuss with other people? I feel like that happens on YouTube comments anyway. I think this case got particularly bad because of it happening early enough that we've had back and forth discourse about it over the last couple weeks which just further cemented the fact that Nel is an important character rather than just some people like her. Idk, I don't blame you for being upset and I don't blame the people who were just commenting vague things about liking her character. If there were more spoiler heavy comments, that sucks :\.

Zess

Cant wait for the Dondochakka powerup showing hes the #1 espada and my goat that should never be slandered!

Zess

Also major props to you on giving them a Korra box set, because I know a lot of people want them to react to that show. You're a real one!

Faradyn

I am going to admit that I skip the Urya & Renji sections boys. But I take a moment of silence for your suffering as I see the dog water on the screen that you are enduring hahaha.

kuza

that mans name is westbrook

HaruhiDream

Szeallaporro's powers are a nice concept. Like, creating voodoo dolls to destroy your enemies organs is just cool idea, and his design looks almost like a poison plant or something. But even with all that said, I can understand not liking this section of the story. Even despite the cool concept, I think this part suffers the most from pacing issues. I have re-watched Bleach several times and during each one this part felt like a drag. I always dreaded having to watch it, even though I like the character.

kuza

sentenced to being called a hindsighter by cannon

kuza

how did i not remember that theme that played for a little when nel transformed that was sick

kuza

hellooooooo nel

kuza

yea this szayelaporro fight might be the worst in the whole show

QUARTZ QUANTUM

Not to be glazing the manga again but comparing the Uryu, Renji and Szayalaporro fight from the anime to the manga, it's day and night. In my opinion they turned a solid 7/10 fight into probably the worst and most boring fight in the anime just because of how insanely it's dragged out.

New Beginnings

i get theres a bit of back and forth but this is still my favorite react show and you all have done bleach the best credit, still so happy you started this show even though its a long journey, and it does mean a lot at least to me that yall read these comments and actually care and engage with your fans, it makes us more a part of it with you guys

TheDirkiestDigg

Yeah, people need to understand that if you guys bring it up so much, it's for a reason lmao. When Nel is introduced, seeing someone say something like "Oh, I actually do like the humor with Nel, but I can understand it's not for everyone." is a lot different than tons of people saying something like "Nel slander will not be tolerated." One is based off of what you have seen already, and the other, while not directly spoiling, feels way too defensive and implies more to the character than meets the eye.

TheDirkiestDigg

I need to catch up on the bleach reactions still, but this is about what I expected unfortunately. Give praise in context everyone. Take a little more time to add a few more words such as "when I was at this point, I thought _____." Or have patience and wait to sing your praises until the time is right. This is where you can sing your Nel praises. If you want to sing her praises sooner, then talk about specifically what they have seen so far. It really isn't too difficult to wait for the right moment. You do your favorite characters a disservice for when they do have their big moments. Let them enjoy first, and then gush.

mathiasmedswag

Why did i kind of like Mckay knowing a lil😂 the smirk when jack said “is she the former number 5”👀

Jonas Teigen

Both Bleach and One Piece suffer from dragged‑out fights, which sucks. The issue with this fight is that we keep cutting away from the hype moments and straight into a low‑priority side fight just to burn time. But if you ignore the filler and pacing, the actual content of the fight is really good. In a remake, this fight would be great. I see your point, but in my opinion, I still think the Zoro vs Kaku fight is worse, and not just because it’s dragged out, but because the actual content isn’t that good. It's a silly fight and Zoro pulls out the most random new move and wins. Meanwhile, this fight, which a lot of people ignore, actually has real thematic weight with the whole Quincy vs scientist angle. Moments like this are one of the reasons a Bleach remake is needed

mathiasmedswag

The hindsight thing sucks cause alot of it makes sense. Bleach has many misdirects like ikkaku seeming weak, byakuya and soul reapers in general seemingly being bad guys and ofc nel and yoruichi😋 I wish yall had an admin going through comments like we wanted in the beginning since its blind for everyone but alas that is not the case🫡

mathiasmedswag

The sad reality might just be not to read comments😔

mathiasmedswag

Oh also you mentioned you knew one needs creator account so is the challenges cancelled or is it only this week?😅

mathiasmedswag

Its kinda sad i just relised its been a long effing time since we’ve gotten the “join the patreon where we actually read all comments and its lit over there. Unlike other patreon there is actually comments on every upload we have the most active patreon”😭 Guess they dont like us anymore🥹💀

Alex

@Ante is entirely on point. @Kurofi You can be excited about a character and what's to come, but there is no reason to voice that excitement preemptively the moment the character is introduced - as it may affect the Geks viewing experience negatively. Just wait until your favorite moments arrive and comment on the moments as they come. If you've already watched the show your general feeling about a character will be affected by their character arc in the show (however big or small that is). Strong blanket statements like "She is my goat!" or "Finally, my husbando is here!" indicate significant moments or character arcs down the line. If people simply stuck to commenting on actual moments from the episodes I don't think it would be such an issue. Saying something like: "I don't mind Nel's antics and find her quite adorable actually" in the beginning is reasonable and just giving a differing response to a character introduction. That is very different from responding with "How dare you slander my GOAT?!" as several people were doing - and I think that is what the hindsight merchant issue is mostly about. Exactly like some people did when the Geks called Ikkaku a scrub at his introduction, and comments were "correcting" them about what a GOAT Ikkaku is and how "slander wouldn't be tolerated".

N _

It's dragged out even more when you kno who shows up.

Huxley Bennett

T-rav, I get it, I really do understand that it can be annoying, but I honestly think they do it to themselves more than the comments do it to them. If there was actually a way of testing this and getting an answer, I would put good money on the VAST majority of people defending Nel legit just meaning her kid form. People really like that character for whatever reason. And with Byakuya, EVERYONE liked Byakuya before the 'reveal', he's just a cool ass character. Even they were saying they liked him before that point. Not everything is hindsight merchanting, and assuming that it is just means you're constantly on the lookout for it and anything that *could* be interpreted just gets diminished. Sure, you can say to avoid commenting stuff (and personally I do), but it's like every damn comment that doesn't 100% conform to their perspective on anything that happens in the show is seen as hindsight merchanting. Sorry, but some people just disagree with you, and are they just never allowed to voice the disagreements?

alex anderson

Yeah as much as I have issues with the Geks on this topic, it is in general mostly on us to frame comments better. Specifically for bleach, idek what was said about Ikkaku but I have a feeling it was in the same vein as what was said about Nel which was “slander will not be tolerated” so I think after ikkaku did his bankai and seeing that same reaction for Nel, it’s relatively easy to put together that Nel would be something insane based on similar comment sentiment. I don’t comment all the time so I probably missed those Ikkaku comments so when I see stuff like “Nel slander will not be tolerated” and “Nel is cute and funny, she’s my favorite character” I didn’t think anything of it (first time watch for me). But for Geks who read a lot of the comments in their posts, it probably seemed so obvious.

kuza

most werent even hindsight they just call it that

mathiasmedswag

Oh yeah 100% they seem to have it especially bad for bleach where in one piece for example they had hyped up characters like doflmamingo and kaido way before saaing them do anything but for bleach a pfp is enough to make them mad. So if that is the case they get more mad with bleach maybe cause they want as blind as possible its hard to not jusy recommend them to stop reading comments🫡

T-rav 3

Yeah I just think it’s a bit of a misunderstanding, they have never been upset about people geeking out or loving characters that they didn’t like, but I’ve been watching their videos since AOT days, they collectively pick up on things fairly quickly now and every time we get “thou dost protest too much” moment where a random newbie character, who can be annoying to a majority of people, gets the whole squad coming to her defense. It’s like asking a guilty 8 year who just stole some cookies and has crumbs on his mouth about stealing the cookies he clearly stole, and he gets EXTRA defensive in a way that doesn’t make sense. That’s more what’s happening here. They don’t care if you disagree with them on a character…that’s not the same thing as an unrealistic amount of pushback over a newly introduced comic relief character. In short, they just don’t want to be spoiled, and as fans of watching their reactions and enjoying when they get really blindsided by something, I also don’t want them to be spoiled even in the slightest, it does dampen the impact.

.Koen

I think some of y’all in the comments are being silly pretending there was no buffoonery going on in the comments regarding Nel (or even ikkaku). If the guys don’t like or hype a character based solely on what they’ve seen on screen so far and people go out of their way to defend said character (for reasons that clearly go beyond their actual screen time and presence up until that point) then you are actually giving something away and it’s annoying because it robs the show of surprise developments and the chance for a relationship with a character to develop on their own. Like I’m also watching this for the first time and I saw some sort of reveal with Nel coming from a mile away due to this.

KazumaSpitfire

Totally understand calling out the commenters who stake their life on defending a character that hasn't done anything yet in the show but for me it's the lense spike that Cannon does whenever something does happen. It's become a meme at this point, just like Jack's throw shit at the wall predictions. Even after saying all that I'm still enjoying the reactions and look forward to the next drop on Tuesday

Max Grodman

I get they complain about hindsight merchants a lot, but to be fair every time they think something that’s totally normal to think with the info they have there’s a bunch of people in the comments like “nooo you have to think (thing that is informed by future info)”. You guys HAVE to learn to just wait and then when they learn the new stuff it’ll be even better.

hunter zweig

Not my fav fight at all probaly the worst renji and Ishida vs this espada but it will get better i promise

Izaya

I genuinely believe that what you call "hindsight merchanting" is simply people trying to push back to some toxicity towards some character or another. When there is an action there is a reaction. Its not good to watch a reaction video where there is constant complaining about a character. That generates some push back.

Kurofi

I think McKay put it best when he said there's a fine line. I and clearly a lot of people in this thread genuinely don't want to spoil them or take away from those big moments. That's part of why we enjoy watching! But I also don't think normal excitement or disagreement should automatically be treated as evidence that we know something they don't. Like Huxley said, sometimes people just REALLY like a character lol. If you start analyzing why the audience likes someone too much, you can almost end up spoiling yourself. So yes, we should be mindful of what we comment, but there's gotta be some grace on the other side of that fine line too. We don't want to spoil y'all, but we also don't want Cannon yelling at us about how "disgusting" we are every time we get excited about somebody.

kuza

oh my god newest tybw episode was peak can yall like hurry up and binge all the way to tybw 💀😭😭😭

Yhwach

No need for them to hurry. They can all enjoy and cherish each moment while it lasts

E

the fight with number 8 has to be the worst fight in bleach

jrnoodles

Ok, thank you for this reply

Zess

You should think about why I said that without getting offended lol

Safaricat

in response to McKay i think some of it is also not reading into the hype too much. it's nice that you guys read comments but there are times when we express a character is our favorite and you guys never understand why because there's no reasono for it they are just beloved. In one piece a favored character is Woop Slap and he literally does nothing but world wide people love him. I think sometimes there's too much expectation put on people's favs. to the point i don't even want to say a character is my favorite because if they don't do anything cool or important you guys will almost bash them that's specifically why i hate power scaling within anime cause you can't' just have a character you like for no reason. I still can't say one of my favorite characters because i don't want you to look too deep into them and put expectations on them, i like them just cause they're funny. Like Ikkaku i never noticed how much he wins or loses cause i just like him and his sword is sick. Rangiku i love her character depth. If i hype them up though you might think they are over powered though or have some story changing arc though. a cigar is sometimes just a cigar and nothing more.

Safaricat

i haven't been watching your bleach reactions because i don't want to feel bad for liking a character or commenting that i like a character and then these expectations are put on them and then i'm "spoiling" i'm being gatekept from my own fav and it hurts. even this comment is goiong to get taken the wrong way. this anime holds so much importance for a lot of people due to representation. there are so many female main characters and not all of them are weak. there are many diverse characters and multiple cultures represented. everyone has different body shapes and sizes. i feel so represented when i watch this show but i can't hype those characters up because the expectation put on them afterwards makes me feel guilty when i just like them because of who they are or their design. i don't care about power scaling i just like the show and the character development and the conversations. i love that the female characters in this show aren't catty or over sexualized and that they support each other instead of getting jealous. i just want to hype characters i've loved for years with out being told i'm spoiling when my reason is just as basic as they're a woman.

Jnasty

Taesan, Snape is a clearly defined antagonist who subverts expectations, whereas Nel is set up as a side character and is neutral but also subverts expectations (like Yoruichi being a male cat). If they were one-to-one comparisons, I would give you leeway, but this is just strawman bs. There is too much complaining about hindsight merchanting, as if just to fill the air with noise. Before I watched Bleach, I liked Nel as a kid, and Ichigo defending her. Her comical relief was preferable to Dondachaka or Peche. I would still defend her against the unjustified hate directed at her character. McKay doesn't like goofy characters, and that's okay. I'll still defend little Nel.

JayCnY

are they in the walls again cannon? carter speaking for everyone when he said "we get it". i would never spoil anything for anyone, but im glad youre going to stop reading the comments since all it does is frustrate you.

evelyngaara

Says the one who wrote a whole paragraph 😂

Michael Iparraguirre

Ill be honest, I spent an unhealthy amount of time on the TikTok shop looking for them. You just gotta look up terms like Bleach or One Piece Shirts and scroll. Those that I got the guys were all in there.

kuza

its a joke man

mechuri131

lol this made me giggle

TheDirkiestDigg

Agreed. The Ikkaku stuff was that they called him fodder when he first appeared at the beginning of the Soul Society arc and people defended Ikkaku the batch prior to where they would see Ikkaku in action lmao. It's mostly just patience. People can gush about characters all they want, but maybe wait until they see why you would gush inn the first place

JPickup6

magic/curry, ?, russ grew up on stockton or respect the og triple double is my guess

Maximum Homerdrive

The TYBW episode that came out today has me in tears. Top 5 of all time bleach episodes. Why do I bring this up? I’m subscribed to a bunch of big reactors on Patreon and you guys are way out spacing their engagement on bleach reactions (comments and likes) despite your position in the “mud” of the series. Warning: Your worry about hindsight merchants spoiling in the comments spoiling may be valid, but tikTok edits are going to be way worse. You weren’t watching Bleach when the last cours were airing….it’s going to be tough.

Zess

ahh gotcha, so it was different brands and stuff. Interesting, I'm never on tik tok so I dont get those particular ads. I'll just have to deep dive lol

New Beginnings

also dang another W box drop, same name lol so now I have to one up the other Michael

Nivek

Exactly, there’s little to no spoilers in the comments but people having favorites is somehow being a merchant.

Nivek

Ah we’re all just wrong about the whole merchant thing now makes sense. Your brain has to be in a perpetual state of “oh this brand new character there spending all this time introducing and explaining there their powers and backstory is a one-off and we’ll never see them again” to even believe what you’re saying. These aren’t bystanders, most everyone you’ve met plays an active role in the story and someone somewhere has them as their favorite. This is not a difficult concept to understand.

Nivek

Also what have all the merchants done for Renji? Pure dogshit stat line but a beloved character.

Nivek

Don’t slander ichigos mom guys just you wait!

Nifty

I personally feel its a bit much to say all the excitement for a character is hindsight merchanting with anime like this because there are so many unique characters that get introduced and its really hard for me to have 1 favorite. I pretty much really like a couple of characters from each faction and almost everyone has atleast one cool moment. Saying you were spoiled or a scene was less impactful because something cool happened doesnt make sense here when honestly you can probably expect it to happen eventually for every character in this anime.

Neko 🐈

Has there been any talk of Geks watching the zanpakuto arc? (206-230) I usually skip filler, but I went back for that one and enjoyed it.

Alexander

Ehh To be fair mckay dislikes characters pretty easily especially "voices" I've seen some reactors who straight up love Nel and her friends from the beginning as crazy as that may be for pesche and dondachaka

Alexander

I think the Ikkaku situation was more egregious then the Nel one. Simply because we had literally just met him and they didn't even explain the squad rankings and stuff yet but people were in the comments mad because McKay called him a bum. With Nel it was McKay again lol saying she was annoying and hating her voice this comes off him hating orihime voice so I guess people were just being super protective atp

Zess

As far as non fodder fights, I completely agree.

Zess

......lol

Maximum Homerdrive

If you’re exclaiming “f the hindsight merchants” multiple times a reaction then clearly you feel like you are being spoiled. I get that a lotta comments in this section seem like they’re “against you” so you might just being sarcastic in this reply. Still, getting someone to filter might be the move. There’s no way you’re not getting pissed at everyone sniping at you for the hindsight merchant stuff. Clearly we all have different opinions as to what is an innocuous comment and what is an implied spoiler. Either let it go, or do something about it.

DonDuh103

20min + intro is hilarious😂😂😂 do it more

DonDuh103

See and if it wasn’t for the Nel hype I literal would have thought up to this point that Nel was a filler character mix in with the canon for the anime😭😭 would have been one of the best reveals ever to find out she was a important character that was a Espada 3 right here😭😭still a really good episode!

DonDuh103

I feel like all the fights before Hecdo Mundo not including Ichigos fights, had a more serious and life threatening stakes. Not that the fights in Hecdo Mundo don’t but they really up the One Piece unnecessary silliness. I just want to see Ichigo or Rukia at this point cause it has had the best emotional beat.

DonDuh103

Cannon I’m with you and One Piece is my 1#, Zoro vs Kaku🤮🤮🤮🤮 I only put it below this Renji/Ishida fight cause I do put One Piece to a higher standard to Bleach cause this is my first watch. But there equally not fun🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Tore Eidsli

the Geks not liking a newly revealed character is not the same as that character not having displayed any likable traits that commenters are big fans of. and yes you can see SOMETHING happening with Nel coming from a mile away because youy SHOULD expect a somewhat decent show to not just introduce 3 silly characters and do absolutely nothing with them, especially with one of them looking so much different.

Tore Eidsli

i think you could try to be more precise, what was spoiler-ish? were people actually praising traits of her that wasnt already displayed?

Tore Eidsli

you guys have literally complained about people even having pfp's of characters, you guys dont even need words to feel like someone is hindsighting.

.Koen

Some people did it correctly which is exactly what I said but a lot did a lot more than that be honest, I have eyes I can read. I clearly wrote 'defending' said character when there is literally no reason to do so when you KNOW what is coming later in the show that's the whole point! You can just choose not to comment every thought in your head and wait for the reveal.

Benny

Sorry if this has been mentioned, but it’s meant to be in 16:9 widescreen by now. Disney+ does the transition in ep 190 (in AU at least…)

Earthshatter

Straight aura from the boys with these fits

Byakuya’s Spouse

Maybe you guys should do 3 episodes each time because the 2 are so light..plus you’re entering more peak territory with Hueco Mundo chaos. I love bleach!!!!

E L

I stand with the geks! 😏

Michael H

@McKay Carter Dude…why do you take out your annoyance at other commenters on innocent parties 😂. This guy was literally trying to empathize and offer a solution and you blast him with the sarcasm like you were in an argument with him lol

Michael H

@Ante Comments were saying they were being too harsh on Byakuya…? Must’ve missed those comments. I saw a lot of comments loving Byakuya, for sure, because he’s a badass, but they also thought he was a badass so that shouldn’t have affected their experience. With Nell, I honestly don’t get it. The vast majority liked her as a child side character. If they had defended her but she just stayed as a likable, cute side character, would that have still been hindsight-merchanting? Probably a one-to-one example would be Karoo from One Piece. Someone on the couch hated Karoo. That person took some grief because people like Karoo. Did that foreshadow Karoo going super saiyan? No, he stayed a duck that people just happen to like. There were no accusations of hindsight merchanting there because that would be insane. This can apply to most characters, but if a character happens to have an epic or massive change later on, then it is for some reason taken as the only reason people liked the character and therefore hindsight merchanting. It’s straight up bizarre at this point.

Nivek

They can’t be wrong of course that’s why

Soulrebel0902

Mid piece fights don’t compare to bleach fights.

Teraofmarcus

These shirt are legendary I need the law shirt RIGHT NOW!!

Kasumii_

I usually never skip forward when watching these reactions but I genuinely can't with this Granz fight. the thing that makes stuff like this so annoying in the big 3 is that on one side you'll have like the coolest thing ever happening and then it switches to straight slop, I'd rather 4 episodes straight of getting through the slop so we can have 4 episodes straight of peak instead of mixing them together and taking the wind out of your sails after every cool moment

Mintymischa

Hey, I just saw the Byakuya shirt- are these for sale? It’s amazing!