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The next episode of Broken Silicon will see us be joined by Leo from Kitguru yet again! He just finished testing the 250K & 270K Plus - so obviously we'll heavily discuss those new CPUs! But, then we also plan to discuss the upcoming R9 9950X3D2, Zen 6, DLSS 5, and other Next-Gen products!

As often happens - this is a guest who can discuss ANYTHING we usually discuss on Broken Silicon! As such, the discussion will be heavily steered by your submissions below! You have ~18 hours to submit.

Last Time Leo was on: https://youtu.be/-kl9IxvyHt8

Check out Leo's YT Channel: https://www.youtube.com/kitgurutech

Comments

Lucas

250k & 270k Plus seem like compelling offerings but clearly the 7 has moved quite a bit downmarket if it is being *started* at $299. Is this the new normal or just a concession they had to make to move any of them at all? Have either of you talked to any devs about their willingness to work with Intel for specialized support on APO and binary optimization?

Cleansweep

Hi Tom and Leo, Considering how many gamers are playing multiple years old games, do you think AMD and Arm CPU manufacturers would be smart to come up with their own Binary Optimization Tools to tune older titles to work better with new architectures?

BespokeEP

Not sure if this question suits this particular show, so feel free to use it when you feel it's appropriate to the discussion, if at all. Dan's love for frame gen got me thinking, If Sony/AMD develop their own version of Nvidia reflex that could potentially work well when using Frame Gen from 30 or 40 fps up to +60fps, could you see this as a potential resource saver on more demanding games running on the PS6P? Or am I out to lunch

Mark Coleman

Does the forced integration of A.I, and other cruft in Windows 11 mean there has or will be a significant swing to alternative OS's like LInux or Mac? Likewise will the hate for DLSS 5 mean people will be more inclined to switch to AMD or even Intel as these technology systems actually harm hardware innovation. In other words, do you think bad features no-one asked for will reduce the power of vendor lock in?

Valentyn

Intel's desktop CPUs still rely on a P-core / E-core split, while AMD has mostly avoided that kind of mixed-core design on desktop. Since Intel keeps doubling down on this approach, are developers and software schedulers actually adapting well to it? In current benchmarks and real-world testing, do we already see that modern programs properly recognize and use the different core types, or is that still inconsistent?

Valentyn

Desktop CPU core counts keep rising. On the AMD side, we are expecting a bump with both Zen6 and Zen7. But since both will still be on AM5, will they end up constrained by dual-channel memory? Compare this to Threadripper and Epyc that starts at four channels and goes as far as 12 channels. Are generous amounts of cache supposed to ameliorate that?

Jihad ROUANI

Hi everyone, looking at the 270K Plus from Intel I have to admit I have never been more tempted by team blue, having ~90% of the productivity performance and ~70% of the gaming performance for 50% of the price is genuinely good value, if it wasn't for their nonexistent platform support I really don't see why the vast majority of people should buy AMD, 30% advantage in gaming sounds good on paper until you realize you won't be playing at 1080p low settings where you get 160fps vs 200fps, at 4K you'll be GPU bound at like 60-100fps without DLSS..... Aside from long platform support the other thing on my wishlist is bigger iGPUs (8-12 Xe cores on Intel, 16-24 CUs on AMD) to offload to them system apps, this vastly helps mid range dGPUs with 8-12GB, on my laptop I find myself having 3-12GB of background apps offloaded to the 780M iGPU while keeping my 8GB 4060 completely free for games, the same philosophy I hope should show up on desktop especially as high VRAM GPUs are getting more expensive and rarer. Thanks as always for the tech insights.

FloridaMan

Given the pricing pressure Intel has placed on AMD, what do you expect the Zen 6 stack pricing to look like now?

A Ikes

Does Google's new AI compression system TurboQuant have any chance at reducing memory demand across the industry and lowering prices?

AnotherChris

Hi Tom and Leo, Do you think that AMD is in the best position to take more gaming market share next gen with RDNA 5? If Nvidia is going to double down on AI performance next gen does this leave a gap for AMD to take market share by offering a more true gaming experience?

TheParadoxy

Who is the 9950x3d2 for? Isn't Zen 6 expected in less than a year? Do you expect Zen 6 non 3d to beat the 9950x3d2 given the bridge dies and new io die should improve memory bottlenecks?

Prior is the theme 999

TXAA, gsync, 3D Vison, physx, hairworks. All proprietary nvidia technologies lost to time or overrun by open sourced competition, I have a good feeling DLSS5 in its current form won’t be long for this world but who knows. As someone who’s been in the space for a while (kitguru) have you seen a technology be rebuked this hard in the decades you’ve been doing tech?

Dark Side of the Force

Hi Tom & Leo, I recall back when DLSS4 was announced with 4xFG, someone calculated that ~93% of the pixel you see on the screen is just DLSS product, with 4K DLSS Performance + 4x Frame gen. With that retrospective, I think the idea of DLSS5 is inevitable in the eyes of AI enthusiast. It is clear that gamer reject DLSS5, but they seem fine with DLSS4, so the line is somewhere between then and there, so what do you think where is the line in the sand for AI upscale technology?

Prior is the theme 999

I get that ram is expensive now, but a 150msrp increase seems suspicious for the ps5 pro, makes me thankful I got mine for 650 shipping and tax a year ago way less than msrp. Will Nintendo be next with the switch 2 and its new removable battery refresh? Or will Microsoft do the unimaginable again with a $1200 2tb White console? granted if they do do that, they can say helix at $999 is cheaper than the previous gen and way more powerful.

Prior is the theme 999

I can’t get my head around the excitement around steam machine. It’s so lackluster in performance “PCMR” would have laughed at Sony or Microsoft for less if they tried this. But because it’s valve who’s making it it’s somehow special like they have a great track record with hardware? How do you see it fairing into the 2030’s? I know I don’t with RT being the next focus.

Dylan M

Hi Tom and Leo As Qualcomm is trying to get into the PC market I started to think maybe it would be better if they put a phone CPU in a laptop like the MacBook Neo to fit the lower power niche in the window space. What do you think? Also, would you say that Soundwave is trying to be a competitor to the MacBook Neo? Or whatever its refresh is going to be?