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poppy !!

is david possibly in his redemption arc? 🤨

Mareike

Omg what a David-rollercoaster these last few pages 😅 I'm loving it and am on my toes!

zoey

love that nick didn’t take the bait

Thira

Omg are we going to somewhat like David now?????

Merel

Oh?? Possible growth for David?

Faye

David asking how Charlie is?? That’s crazy

ACxo

Is David actually nice now? 🤨

emily

oh? 🤨

lexi

OH?

Shin__

OH WOW

abbie

david being nice? never thought id see the day.

Harri Watson

How little eyebrow furrow 😭 Nick open up to someone

ally

perhaps david is trying ??

Daya

Okay then.

Chloe ♡

david finally turning a corner 👀

EC

Not me crying at David showing care for the first time ever.

artxsta

now why does david’s face look so genuine, alice you’re really taking us for a loop

laura

that’s suspicious… that’s weird 🤨

Elliot

That was so unexpected from David

RadiatingRedstone .

David on his "try not to be a complete waste of oxygen" arc?

Aubrey

Ooooooooo

Chris
>>152707009

My thoughts exactly! Such a rollercoaster, it's making me suspicious 🤨

tess ^_^

HELLO????? U WERE JUST DISSING THEM

Justin S.

Hmmmm, okay David 🤔

Jay

oh!

Madeline Hutchinson

Love that Nick had to clarify that he and Charlie do NOT watch love island

Colette L

David! Empathy looks so good on you king!

Curious

Awwwwwwwww hes trying!!!

Ems

wait what

Hanne Kirkebø

Is David trying to be civil? Hmm. I really hope it’s not just an act.

ambie

wow! david actually showing emotion towards charlie

Gemma

🤨🤨🤨 < my face at David showing a shred of empathy

Sonia

Maybe he is trying 🥹

Chris

David redemption arc at the 11th hour???

Kristen

Wow…I hope that’s legitimate concern and not an opening to be a jerk. Fingers crossed! Nick really needs a break! 🥺🍂🥰

Maya Miranda

Omg is David trying to be nice for once

ÁineBCM

This was not on my Heartstopper bingo card lol

Susan Bridges

This is evolving my sense of David!

KrappyKoko

David redemption arc⁉️⁉️

Lauren

GROWTH, DAVID??????

Nina

Daviddd? sir?

Charlie

It’s a fair question. But I just don’t trust David.

Desi23

Oppss David being nice? Wonderful surprise!!!

Dippity_Dip

I love characters with real human characteristics YES David can grow while still having done terrible things to nick and be NUANCED YAYYY

Kayleigh Clarke

Oh…🤔🤨 Not convinced he really gives a shit yet. We can hope though!

Jessica Thomas

Oh man I need a redemption arch from David!!

Melissa Hernandez

Wouldn’t you like to know weather boy💀 i dont know if he being fake but it feels weird

Mrspoems

Is there a heart hidden in there somewhere, David?

Katha

Oh, I’m really curious how this will go on…

Merel

Character growth? In MY David? It's more likely than you think.

Summer Neil

Alice my trust issues can’t do this

alae

OH- *in a sabrina brier impression*

Synz

hm

Jomaries Amezaga

What? I don’t know if I should feel suspicious or amused.

Mykie Star

Gee maybe the problem is YOU David !!!

Lolli98

See, the change has already begun.😎 I hope he doesn't destroy it with the next page🙄

Shirtael Cohen

Nick look so lost without Charlie around him ..

reece

Do I sense a nick/david heart to heart….??? 🙂‍↕️

Bonnie Josephine

"not as big of a jerk as you could have been" award

Carina

Hmmm

Chris Mackenzie

Wow, David is showing emotion. Good for him. It’s a bit like Harry in the show on the Eiffel Tower, just a small spark of humanity.

CinD

Now it’s Nick that’s not doing good, David. Maybe step it up and be a decent brother for once 😒

Fey 🍂

Oh my god, I love that David asked Nick that. I hope this leads to a genuine conversation between brothers, where David is genuinely interested in what's going on in his brother's life and Charlie's 🥺

Beam Bugge

to trust or not to trust...

Mar

i do feel bad for Nick and his relationship with his brother, because I have a feeling that they used to get along and then *something* brewed over the years and they grew apart as they got older. I feel like they might genuinely miss each other to degree…

Katy

I honestly loved how season 3 showed David's struggle with the relationship with their dad. It doesn't make his behavioir okay, but it shows that everyone's mental health struggles can look different. And hurt people often hurt people. I hope we get to see some growth from him❤️

Nic Gebbie

(Unpopular opinion) I’d love a lil redemption arc for David :( their dad sucksss and David just seems lost and lonely and unsure of how to connect with people because he was never taught how to

Melissa Delzell

Nope nope nope! I’m not gonna be a sucker and fall for the rouse. Gonna need more from David before I consider any possible growth…🤨😑

Laura Humber

Wow people can surprise us every day. Is David finally realising his behaviour only isolates him from everyone else? Maybe some redemption here?

Olivia Brookes

oh god is he getting a redemption arc

Katy

And I oop-

Samaria!

claiming this page bc it’s my birthday— big ups, Alice!!!! on another note, David being… caring? 🤨

Jo S

I don’t know if I can trust him?? Alice! give me a clue please ☺️❤️

Jess🍂

HOLD UP-🤨…. Stop idk if we trust or not?

Krystyn

🤨 perfect emoji Alice!

Harriet Echo

Redemption pleaseeeee that would be magic 🥹💜

Hunter

Do hope this is legitimate concern from David and not a way to bully the boys

Kennedi Robinson

We’ll see how this plays out but him asking how Charlie is was the first step. So hopefully he improves a bit especially with that attitude of his

Claire

I am staying naive and believing it is a genuine question. If there is snark from him on the next page then David has used up his final chance with me. I would like to see David try and become a better person though.

Samantha Adler

I’m suspicious and will continue to be until further notice. It holding my breath. Nope.

Kay

Instant sus

margaux

🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨 that’s suspicious… that’s weird🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨

toneelspeler

nick's expressive face showing all of his thousand thoughts by just a simple question asking about someone he loves a lot by someone he never expected to care.. i think, in some way, being able to talk a little more on an even level (maybe even about their experiences of the divorce), would be quite helpful for both of these two to feel a bit more calm about themselves!

Evergreen

Oooh what is that facial expression in the fourth panel? I can't tell if I'm blinded by what my heart wants it to be!

Charlie

I really hope david is becoming a better person. If he is gonna come up with another one of his stupid comments i am gonna stop believing he can be good

Clau G.

i’m honestly here for david growth!!! he’s a bit of a prick and it’ll definitely take more time and effort on his part, but he CAN learn and choose to accept his brother and heal his relationship with him!!

Lindsey Knoff

Just the chance of David caring nearly made me start tearing up

Katrina

Hmmm I am suspicious until further notice 🤨

ZooKeeperHere

Ooooooo a possible real conversation with David!? I would love to see a David Nelson redemption arc. Nick could really use the support of an older brother.

boombroadcast

Wow, that seems like a sincere question from David. Following some unnecessary snark of course, but tiny bit of growth, maybe? I would like that for Nick and Sarah’s sake! (Also now I wanna know what *is* on Nick and Charlie’s watch list.)

Cody

I love the way Alice drew Nick's reaction to David's question! It's perfect. Really encompasses the "I don't know how to take this" look. We might have a hint towards a redemption (or at least less of an ass?)???

Ann ✨

🤨 is exactly the face I made too, lol. Dare we hope that David can start behaving like a decent human? Like can he/will he actually sustain the effort it takes to rebuild trust?

Marie Antoinette

Oh this is what I needed to see. I hope it lasts a while

richardhutter

OMG. Shocker! Alice, you always deliver a surprise in the most delicious way.

Ciara Trexler
>>152707729

I agree! I really got this vibe from season 3 of the show, in particular. And I wonder if that’s a stepping point for fans of Heartstopper as a whole. For us to see that David is incredibly complex and dealing with his parents divorce and his father’s neglect in his own way, different from Nick.

Oliver

Nick is looking so mature recently omfg 😭🫂❤️❤️❤️

Nicky Van den Bosch

Omg david! What a suprise, please let keep it going like this! Hope he doesn't fall back into old jackass behaviours

Ariel

Hmmmmm I'm holding out hope but willing to walk with it👀

MJ

Aww, Nick is so taken aback. (We all are!) You've done an amazing job showing the family resemblance when there's softness and openness in both their faces. Both of their body postures say so much. I can feel the apprehension and nerves. Your pages are so beautifully laid out - I can picture it in motion so clearly. ❤️

aniatka

Ok, but why is Nick eyes looking so sad when saying that Charlie is going well? I'm worrying a bit... Sending Nick a huge hug 🤗🤗🤗 knowing that no one could compete with his ones ❤️❤️❤️

Anne Marie

Huh. A possible David growth story line? Did not see that coming. (Maybe we have Jess to thank for that?) either way, I am sat.

Melissa B

I’m here for a David growth storyline

Maisie

ARE WE SEEING SOME GROWTH HERE? Oooh I’m intrigued

Hearting_Hobi

Oh my god is David a little bit… human??

al ✨

is this......progress????

Diana N

My jaw is on the floor. I cannot believe David asked that. I guess I’ll have to eat my words if David changes but I will happily do so.

Mara

What is this… David acting like a human? Showing empathy? This is wild I gotta sit down for this

Frances

Wait, am I reading the right graphic novel?!

ucfnurse

I’d be careful if I were Nick!!!☺️🫢🫶🏻🥰✨🌖🙊🫂🤞💕✌️🕊️☮️

Tori-Gaye Atterbury

I’m torn on whether to take his interest in Charlie as something genuine or if he’s trying to work an angle 🤔

dpfw
>>152710793

I'm betting this one was different from the others. This one meant something to him and he's actually hurting because he thought it was going somewhere serious

Samantha Bundy

I feel like Davjs likes Charlie, he just does like the "gay"

louise

Hm…WHAT!? Is…is this progress I see 🤨 I actually wouldn’t mind seeing a new David. Especially when their dad is never around so them having each other for support would be great. Let’s just hope.

Megan
>>152709613

I think he's more caught off guard by David seeming to take a genuine interest in Charlie's wellbeing, which he never has before. He's not used to his brother being a decent human being lol. Nick's eyes conveyed (at least to me anyway) wariness rather than worry.

arlo🧞

perchance…. progress..??

Elity

Is...is this...is David...TRYING??

Leah Della Croce

part of me just wants to believe David has enough Sarah DNA in him somewhere

flynn tasker

GUYS I TOLD YOU ALL MAYBE HE HAS GOTTEN BETTER! (okay there is a 50% chance there will be a snarky comment in the next page alice releases)

Brent Henderson

Who said that???? Is there a heart in that stony exterior?

Cliff

They don’t watch “Love Island” but they do cuddle! 😊 Nick could use and would accept the support if David was willing to give it. Do I remember correctly that Alice said somewhere that Nick was “going to go through a lot” in this volume? Doesn’t bode well if she did. We’ll find out on the next page!

Polythene Pam

My flabbers, they are gasted 😯

Sage De La Cruz

Don't tell me he's about to say "ya know, I don't hate who you are"

Loveislove

I think at this point, David would not know that Nick is submerged with worry. So the instinct to ask about Charlie, who he does know has had past struggles, is really a very caring pathway to his brother. David has the potential to be an ally to Nick in many ways. Family bonds, roles and identities can be strengthened. David can support Nick on uni life and decisions. He may even be able to tell him what not to do in a long term or long distance relationship lol. Both David and Sarah can remind Nick of the beautiful independent young man he is alongside Charlie. I hope this relationship reawakens and helps Nick rediscover his own self worth and confidence.

David C Witkin

David opens the door. Will he offer a smile and an open hand? Or will he kick the door in and use it to hurt Nick and Charlie? You can see that Nick is suspicious, but he wants to give David the benefit of the doubt, and he needs any support he can get. I think both brothers would like it if their relationship was better, and I think David has finally accepted how important Charlie is to Nick. Maybe this is the start of something good, but like all good things, it will have its ups and downs.

Jeffrey Ricker

So there, David. (I’m still not willing to trust him farther than I could throw him. And with my back, that’s not very far….)

Tyler
>>152715573

I really hope that is what is happening... but there is a lot of hurts to be mended from that p.o.s. as well 😕

Kat

😯 ok there is hope.....

hollie

david has a compassionate bone in his body??? 🤨🤨🤨

Brian Chittum

Is it possible that David isn't a complete jerk?

Adriane Tanjutco

it doesn’t matter what David says. Personally think Nick would never trust David ever. They can be cordial if they tried really hard and that’s about it

James

With all the talk of a 'redemption arc', I'm not sure we even need to see a 180° turnaround for David. Growth can be more subtle and piecemeal. A fantastic example of that in this comic is Jane Spring. She doesn't suddenly change but we get more context of why she is like she is, and we see her make a bit more effort. Then there's Harry Greene. He stops his homophobic bullying but he's still a bit of an egotistical prick. He's tolerated but not really trusted or liked. But there's some change in a vaguely good direction. Drawing from the TV David, maybe we see him more defeated and more obviously struggling, someone we might have some pity for, his hateful comments blunted and interspersed with something interesting to say — even if it's more for illustrate to Nick not to make his mistakes. (As if he would!) Perhaps the first pangs of self-reflection? Really interested to see where Alice will go with this!

Tori-Gaye Atterbury
>>152710793

I think you may be onto something! I feel like she may have left him because he refused to address his issues and they started affecting the relationship

Siero

does david actually care?

James

But also, How old is David? He must be about 21-22? That's still really young, definitely too young to write him off as incapable of positive change.

Elsie 3

This just made my day. Proud of you David. Baby steps.

Jennifer Paddock

Oh how I want to believe the next page isn't the textual equivalent of someone driving forward as you try to get in the car... but I worry. 🫣

Josh

There we go, there’s still hope for David, there’s hope for humanity.

Maia

Confused but hoping Nick doesn’t get hurt

Josh
>>152721840

I think this is also one of the first times I’ve noticed the brotherly resemblance between Nick and David.

Darling

Omg?!! These words just left David’s mouth?!!!!

Larisa

Wait! Is David.... HUMAN!!!!!!??????? 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

Larisa

Everyone: You can't have an entire fandom shook with a single page Alice: Hold my beer 💅

Brynn Rabinowitz

Just when you think David is heartless, he says that. 🤯 Glad he is getting a little bit of redemption.

Kat

Why do I feel like David is about to say something that is going to make Nick insecure about their relationship (even if his intention may very well be to be well-meaning). Like something about how Charlie doesn’t “need” Nick anymore… oof, we’ll see 👀

Brittney

David.. what are you doing?

Michael Boehnlein (Bane-line)

literally if you pull off a david redemption arc it will be impressive. he’s shown no signs of remorse so far, so this little glint of interest and care is huge! if they can’t have a present/interested father, i’m excited for them to have each other. 💛💛💛

Brittney Tarr
>>152721840

Me too! I was just thinking of how similar they look and how I’ve never noticed that before

Eileen

People are also jerks for a reason.. let's see. We dont know anything about David's inner life. I believe he has been struggling also.

Eileen

And arent we our worst with our own families?

Catriona

If another Nelson brother has a queer or ally discovery arc in vol 6, I will not be disappointed 🫶🏻

Tyne Swedish

Wait are we experiencing growth??? I’m so hesitant.

Beam Bugge
>>152728277

iirc Alice once mentioned that they didn't like the idea of people headcanoning Harry as queer because of the stereotype that the most homophobic people are secretly queer themselves, and I assume that is also the case for David but yes, it's not too late for him to become an ally!

Sara_JT

Now please ask how Nick is!!!! Perfect opportunity for you David to actually be a brother and check in with him, show you care and actually recognise that he is not doing okay!!

RCM

God. Both Nick and David share the "ability" to push down their own feelings...and deflect onto others... "don't talk about me but let's talk about you." Those two panels with Nick and David next to each other are SO humbling...they BOTH are struggling with themselves. The way Alice drew their resemblance really hits home here...between the shared sad downturn of their mouths (like they both have so much to talk about it but neither can actually SAY it...) to their big, wide-eyed SILENT stares (goodness boys...you both are hurting. You both went through the same hard stuff when you were young...🥺). I do want to celebrate what a win it is that David LOOKS up from his phone to make eye contact with Nick, and that Nick responds to his genuine (?) question with an actual answer instead of a "don't talk about Charlie." THIS IS BIG...it's a baby step, but a big one. BUT, that last panel, where we have just Nick, with an empty background, and we can't really tell if he is looking at David or looking into the void, catches my attention...Nick, to me, seems to be having another disconnect here between the words he says (ofc Charlie is doing well! He is kicking ass and taking names with Head Boy and work and all...and ofc I am so proud of him!) and the uncertain feelings written all over his face (we're good, are we good because I miss seeing him as much, uni is coming, this personal statement BS sucks...how did you write yours, David, how did you figure out what you wanted to study and where you wanted to go and what you wanted to do because all I know is that I love Charlie and I don't want my life to change and (shhhhhhh), I don't actually know who I am yet but, yea, Charlie is good). Pages like this are why I am soooo grateful to be on this patreon...where I have time to sit and think and hope and fear and still have no real clue what Alice will have on the next page. SO grateful❤️‍🩹

Murgy

So, a chance David has grown? But will he go back to form in the next couple of panels? Or did he actually listen to Sarah and is trying to be respectful (fingers crossed)

Margot Masclans

David reformation arc??? Is the day I’ve been dreaming of

Loveislove
>>152717647

It's true that change can be a matter of degrees. We are still in the page a day bubble where we overanalyze like a cat playing with a piece of yarn while Alice has the whole ball of wool and probably can't believe how worked up we get 😊. But such is the power of her artistry and world building. I find myself very intrigued that some incidents of the Nick and Charlie novella may no longer be canon. How freeing for Alice, more true to character for Nick and Charlie and exciting for us!

reece

Honestly sooo excited to see how the rest of this conversation goes 🫶🏼🫡🥹

Michelle Glegg

I liked that the TV David was a bit more three dimensional (you could see it when it came to the problems with the Dad) so I’m happy that this has possibly transferred over to the latest comic

James
>>152717647

Haha that's a nice metaphor! And yes, I'm also super excited that now we have LESS idea how vol 6 is going to unravel and that it's going to be even more of a surprise!

Brenda L

*Putting David’s potential emotional growth aside for a moment* What reality tv shows would Nick and Charlie actually watch ?

Niamh Gibbons

Awh okay he asked about Charlie maybe this is progress

Scott Whittall

wait ...what?? David do you really care?

Neenie

Nick’s turn!! And he’s doing well, not we’re doing well…